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The title says it all, any word on root on the stock 3.1? I didn't have root on 3.0.1 either, and I don't really want to go through the downgrade/upgrade process, I am waiting on a 3.1 root.
californiarailroader said:
The title says it all, any word on root on the stock 3.1? I didn't have root on 3.0.1 either, and I don't really want to go through the downgrade/upgrade process, I am waiting on a 3.1 root.
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If you go through the down then up then you end up with root now. If you are waiting a few days/weeks for someone to come up with a direct 3.1 method you save maybe half an hour on the process. Do the math.
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Since 3.1 isn't out yet, I'm going to say not yet. And before any buffoons say otherwise, the leak isn't an official release, so I don't count it as such.
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If you go through the down then up then you end up with root now. If you are waiting a few days/weeks for some one to come up with a direct 3.1 method you save money half naked hour on the process. Do the math.
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Save money half naked hour?
californiarailroader said:
Save money half naked hour?
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Corrected... damn you SwiftKey
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dictionary said:
Since 3.1 isn't out yet, I'm going to say not yet. And before any buffoons say otherwise, the leak isn't an official release, so I don't count it as such.
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I bet the leak is the official version, with them releasing the update tomorrow they are too close together not to be, but I guess anything's possible.
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Corrected... damn you SwiftKey
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Lol No worries, I thought maybe it was some phrase I hadn't heard of
benmyers2941 said:
If you go through the down then up then you end up with root now. If you are waiting a few days/weeks for someone to come up with a direct 3.1 method you save maybe half an hour on the process. Do the math.
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Yeah, that's a good point! So far it seems to be flying along, but I may just go ahead and do the downgrade/upgrade thing, I'll see things go.
I personally think its rude to ask this if you're not working on it yourself, but either way this thread does not belong in the dev section. Its nothing personal and there are a few others on the first page that shouldn't have posted here either.
Jocelyn said:
I personally think its rude to ask this if you're not working on it yourself, but either way this thread does not belong in the dev section. Its nothing personal and there are a few others on the first page that shouldn't have posted here either.
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You know, XDA has a reputation for being snotty and condescending on the web, thanks for further pushing that out to the masses I didn't get a Thanks meter TWICE yours for being "rude", nothing personal, but you can take your attitude and, well, you know... Oh, and remember the old phrase, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", it's applicable here
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You know, XDA has a reputation for being snotty on the web, thanks for further pushing that out to the masses I didn't get a Thanks meter TWICE yours for being "rude", so you can take your attitude and, well, you know...
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ROFL I said personally. I don't hold that opinion to others whatsoever and I don't think there's anything wrong for someone else to ask. As far as wanting things to be posted in the appropriate section, well this section is for developers/development. Questions can go in general or ask a Mod to make a Q&A section.
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ROFL I said personally. I don't hold that opinion to others whatsoever and I don't think there's anything wrong for someone else to ask. As far as wanting things to be posted in the appropriate section, well this section is for developers/development. Questions can go in general or ask a Mod to make a Q&A section.
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You said I was rude and you didn't expect me to take it personally? NOT. Next time, phrase it differently, oh, this IS the place to ask this. You know, you come in looking for help, and it seems you always have one person that acts like some sort of God, you have fulfilled that role well.
Now, if you have anything pertinent to the question, feel free to submit it, if not I will ask the mods to lock it because it isn't worth going on with people like you ruling the roost.
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ROFL I said personally. I don't hold that opinion to others whatsoever and I don't think there's anything wrong for someone else to ask. As far as wanting things to be posted in the appropriate section, well this section is for developers/development. Questions can go in general or ask a Mod to make a Q&A section.
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Why wouldn't a question about rooting go in the dev section, when all the root threads/guides are in that section?
cliffr39 said:
Why wouldn't a question about rooting go in the dev section, when all the root threads/guides are in that section?
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Because the Dev section is for ACTUAL developments, not questions about developments. Questions about developments go in the General section (here) and when the development comes into place, a thread about the development is made in the dev section. The mods aren't really on the ball with closing/moving threads, that's why it looks confusing, but head to the n1 section, or the g1 section. You'll see what I mean.
Honeycomb 3.1 and Root, when? << This would be in the Q&A or General Section
(DEV) Honeycomb 3.1 New Root << This would be in the dev section
californiarailroader said:
You know, XDA has a reputation for being snotty and condescending on the web, thanks for further pushing that out to the masses I didn't get a Thanks meter TWICE yours for being "rude", nothing personal, but you can take your attitude and, well, you know... Oh, and remember the old phrase, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", it's applicable here
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It's the internet man, don't take nothing to personal.
Since I've been in this TF sections, Jocelyn has helped me the most.
Also this TF forum does need a Q&A section as I see most other devices thread have a Q&A section.
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You said I was rude and you didn't expect me to take it personally? NOT.
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Wow...Did this guy just say NOT?
Way to make my morning CRR
californiarailroader, you're a wimp...
As the thread title asks....
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LordGeek said:
As the thread title asks....
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No sir
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Not until the kernel source in released or leaked.
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Not until the kernel source in released or leaked.
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That's what I thought .. bummer
Has anyone reached out to DesignGears to see if its possible to get .. since he is the main GOD here for our upcoming ICS release leaks.
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That's what I thought .. bummer
Has anyone reached out to DesignGears to see if its possible to get .. since he is the main GOD here for our upcoming ICS release leaks.
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I'm pretty sure he posts them as he gets them. I'm just thankful him and his leak source are working hard to get the leaks to us.
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I'm pretty sure he posts them as he gets them. I'm just thankful him and his leak source are working hard to get the leaks to us.
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Yeah, I'm sure if he had kernel source he would have posted it
I gotta be honest though, if a noob had posted this question he would have for roasted... I believe u got away with it because you've been around longer than all of us. Did u search before hand my friend?
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I gotta be honest though, if a noob had posted this question he would have for roasted... I believe u got away with it because you've been around longer than all of us. Did u search before hand my friend?
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And you wanted me to search for what ? "ICS" "kernel" "OC" .. yeah .. good luck with that.
And.. yes, no one has asked here in our threads being General or Q&A about OC'ing an ICS kernel .. what I did not know though, was the fact that you need a full kernel source in order to accomplish this. So, my question was answered .. thank you.
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I dont blame u. This forum is so polluted with almost identical threads in every section
Lol search may be overwhelming
I disagree. We can't have senior members telling all the new users to search, and then because one can't be bothered to search Google for "skyrocket overclock kernel ics" we provide direct answers. Can't be using a double standard, its not fair.
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I disagree. We can't have senior members telling all the new users to search, and then because one can't be bothered to search Google for "skyrocket overclock kernel ics" we provide direct answers. Can't be using a double standard, its not fair.
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IceNight89 .. took your advise .. searched Google for "skyrocket overclock kernel ics" .. as you stated .. YEAH // like I said before, good luck with that !!!
that would indicate to me that there is no such thing at present
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that would indicate to me that there is no such thing at present
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1.3m results = nothing?
Also, when asking something like this, Google is great for finding a positive, but a negative (I.e. there is no OC kernal) is exceptionally hard to figure out without checking every search result.
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I answered the OPs question (the best I could) because:
A. The question actually appears in the Q&A section where such generalized questions belong. And...
B. The "header" of the thread clearly stated what the OP wanted to know. This will help in the future when others need to search for the information. This thread will most definately appear in a thread search for ICS Kernel OC, when other threads that this has been discussed in may not readily appear to.
So, Yes, it has been discussed, but by answering the question in this thread it (hopefully) will help keep it from being asked again and again and again... At least now there isn't an excuse about the info not coming up in a search.
First of all relax and clear your minds.
There has been a lot of flaming lately, which is definetively a bigger issue than nonsense threads opened up in our forums. So please, I beg you, if you have nothing productive to say, just dont say it and stay out of trouble.
It is a fair question, ok, but this thread (like many I have seen before) could easily become a sticky about "ICS Kernels for the Skyrocket" or something like that. Sadly, it will never reach that status, because, instead of the user having his question asked, and other members contribute with positive and constructive comments (<-----forum), it turned out a thread where it serves to critize each other.
Please think about the above before opening a new thread (your question has been probably asked and besides the search button there is reading, and reading, and even more reading) and replying to that new thread (replies insulting other users are even more useless than a thread with an already answered question).
Have a nice day.
Can someone list any comprehensive changes between the two?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Ice_Cream_Sandwich_4.0.x
Obviously its easy for anyone to cite Wiki, but I was asking if there was anything they may have left out. Wiki is not always the most.reliable source for accuracy and comprehensive coverage pertaining to detail sometimes.
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Obviously its easy for anyone to cite Wiki, but I was asking if there was anything they may have left out. Wiki is not always the most.reliable source for accuracy and comprehensive coverage pertaining to detail sometimes.
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Then search for yourself, or flash them both and see.
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lazy noob
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Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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awarbrick89 said:
Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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You can't get on xda ask how something is or what's better from us. Because those of us that do flash and venture out find out on our own. This entire post is pointless. Strong with you the newness is.
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awarbrick89 said:
Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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Its a little tough here on xda but its true that you need to try it out yourself and see what the difference is...personally between the 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 leaks we have, I noticed that 4.0.4 seems to be a lot smoother for me and battery drain seems a little better but I'm going to have to wait for a complete power cycle before I can confirm this
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personally between the 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 leaks we have, I noticed that 4.0.4 seems to be a lot smoother for me and battery drain seems a little better
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Which ROM are you using?
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awarbrick89 said:
Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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At least someone answered his noob post...I put one up and no one chimes in...hehehehe
I'm not really offended, but entertained that others get offended so easily.
bbackowski said:
At least someone answered his noob post...I put one up and no one chimes in...hehehehe
I'm not really offended, but entertained that others get offended so easily.
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Not just in reply to this but the whole thing. I found this post looking for, well an answer the question that was initially asked. And very quickly pressed the back button on the browser and regoogled. I think the point is XDA is for a higher calibre level of experience and technical understanding and not for your day to day stuff you could read in a geek magazine, or Android Forums for example. Am I right? Just so I know not to make the mistake myself coz u guys get nasty
This threads been reported
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This threads been reported
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I know this thread is old, just wanted to point out what huge an Impact that had apparently
And I don't know how I never noticed this at the time, But you guys didn't either.
He never asked which was better, he asked what the major changes were,
Why would you guys suggest someone go through the steps required to install a new android version, instead of just answering their question............ Noobs aren't the problem, the arrogant behavior of the experienced members however..
Thanks for bringing back a year old + thread to let us know.
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I know this thread is old, just wanted to point out what huge an Impact that had apparently
And I don't know how I never noticed this at the time, But you guys didn't either.
He never asked which was better, he asked what the major changes were,
Why would you guys suggest someone go through the steps required to install a new android version, instead of just answering their question............ Noobs aren't the problem, the arrogant behavior of the experienced members however..
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I disagree, the community itself was built on the backs of do it yourselfers who spent a lot of time and effort to learn and share development, sources, and ideas. The mentality of xda has changed from that of the do it yourselfer spitballing ideas on better code implementation or how to get things working to that of a help desk where it's no longer a community striving to improve and learn they just want things now. Most are content never knowing the effort involved in compiling a ROM or how to modify an apk, hell most can't even use adb to capture logs. The issue here is most certainly complacency amongst newer members. The mentality needs to change in order to see improvement, that's why you see these old timers so grumpy because honestly it's ridiculous the amount of easily searchable questions run through xda.
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I've been thinking maybe a sister site is needed. XDAusers sounds about right. Send all the "I want it now and I won't search" types over that way. Unfortunately, it's not that simple. Some will help with devving, some will cry like a two year old when they get a bootloop. It takes all kinds. One thing I have noticed though. Those that can search and read are almost never heard from. Why? Because they search and read. A catch-22 at its finest.
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Thanks for bringing back a year old + thread to let us know.
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Any Time
Does anyone know what we are waiting for to have JB and Sense or have I missed that Rom
Really? Hmmm....yep there was tons of sense 4+ roms here and they just disappeared....no if you simply searched Google or read a little bit for like two mins maybe less you'd realize only the intl one x has jb with sense and we don't have any leaks yet.......
Someone is porting sense 4.5 from the droid DNA tho. But it's very unstable at the moment
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Did the Search button stop working this week? What did I miss?
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Really? Hmmm....yep there was tons of sense 4+ roms here and they just disappeared....no if you simply searched Google or read a little bit for like two mins maybe less you'd realize only the intl one x has jb with sense and we don't have any leaks yet.......
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I have read and realize that only the One X and not the One XL has a JB with sense. What i am asking is what are waiting for (ex a leak, a port). I see you have answered that, but could have just answered with out the the silliness.
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I see you have answered that, but could have just answered with out the the silliness.
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Yes, we could have, prior to the 500 other threads people have posted this month asking the same questions. But it's been a rough couple of weeks.
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Did the Search button stop working this week? What did I miss?
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That's what I'm thinking... Did the mods take the search button off line?
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CheesyNutz said:
That's what I'm thinking... Did the mods take the search button off line?
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It's like the garbage man. No matter how much you pick up, there's always a new pile of crap when you come back the next time.
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I have read and realize that only the One X and not the One XL has a JB with sense. What i am asking is what are waiting for (ex a leak, a port). I see you have answered that, but could have just answered with out the the silliness.
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I'm sorry if I came off a little rude but like Elvis said only so many threads on the sane topic can a sane man take until he gets to become a curmudgeon on that basis...and also.as stated its just kind of a preview Rom but newtoroot did port. Senses 4.5 jb Rom but.only a couple things working but porting a diff Rom is not.easy especially without the kernel modules
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I'm sorry if I came off a little rude but like Elvis said only so many threads on the sane topic can a sane man take until he gets to become a curmudgeon on that basis...and also.as stated its just kind of a preview Rom but newtoroot did port. Senses 4.5 jb Rom but.only a couple things working but porting a diff Rom is not.easy especially without the kernel modules
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To thoes who that this was another redundant thread, I didn't mean for that to happen. I really didn't know how to word a search for what I was questioning. But thanks to who answered.
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To thoes who that this was another redundant thread, I didn't mean for that to happen. I really didn't know how to word a search for what I was questioning. But thanks to who answered.
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No worries dude it happens to most everyone here on xda at one point
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Really? Hmmm....yep there was tons of sense 4+ roms here and they just disappeared....no if you simply searched Google or read a little bit for like two mins maybe less you'd realize only the intl one x has jb with sense and we don't have any leaks yet.......
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You know you have a choice right? Why do you feel the need to ?
You actually did sound quite rude, when you could've just let others answer in a more better manner.
Search button? Yeah like that works so smoothly. .Lmao
And sometimes it's hard for others who's not so familiar with the subject and there's A lot to look in /read.
Sometimes it doesn't hurt to just ask and if anyone knows and is willing to answer, then let them.leave all your negative comment and complaining to yourself which isn't helping anyone and leaving others to look through more stuff before finding an actual answer.
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hyun18 said:
You know you have a choice right? Why do you feel the need to ?
You actually did sound quite rude, when you could've just let others answer in a more better manner.
Search button? Yeah like that works so smoothly. .Lmao
And sometimes it's hard for others who's not so familiar with the subject and there's A lot to look in /read.
Sometimes it doesn't hurt to just ask and if anyone knows and is willing to answer, then let them.leave all your negative comment and complaining to yourself which isn't helping anyone and leaving others to look through more stuff before finding an actual answer.
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Idk how long you've been lurking the one xl forums but the answer to that q is everywhere...and I did answer the question.... Also I'd like to know why you felt high and mighty today to single me out when other people posted worse things in this thread? I get it its ok..you just aren't the brightest kid....and I doubt you bothered to read but I said my apologies so go **** yourself and stop trying to act like a little policeman....people can use google **** it'll give you more info than here it's not that dam hard or he could look in the one xl forum and after like 1min find the answer.....still don't know why you signaled me out but ok but you're truly pathetic I answer questions very often to the best of my ability to help people there's only after so many threads on the same thing that you know people didn't search even five seconds.....it's time for you to put some big boy pants on buddy
Lol, so much hate in this thread. I like it.
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Search button? Yeah like that works so smoothly. .Lmao
And sometimes it's hard for others who's not so familiar with the subject and there's A lot to look in /read.
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I find the Search function at xda works quite well. I use it all the time and usually find what I'm looking for.
Yeah, there is a lot to read, but that's what we do here: We read and research before asking questions that have been answered 100 times already.
There's a good reason why the forum rules ask people to search first: Starting a new thread when there are already others on the same subject just makes it harder for the next guy to find what he needs to know. So by not doing that, they're exacerbating the very problem you're complaining about here.
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I find the Search function at xda works quite well. I use it all the time and usually find what I'm looking for.
Yeah, there is a lot to read, but that's what we do here: We read and research before asking questions that have been answered 100 times already.
There's a good reason why the forum rules ask people to search first: Starting a new thread when there are already others on the same subject just makes it harder for the next guy to find what he needs to know. So by not doing that, they're exacerbating the very problem you're complaining about here.
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People who don't search should be banned....as it is breaking XDA rules.
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People who don't search should be banned....as it is breaking XDA rules.
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I like this.
There should be some type of monitoring to tell if some one searched first, before posting then ban them for not searching.
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Calebt said:
There should be some type of monitoring to tell if some one searched first, before posting then ban them for not searching.
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See xda has this feature when you try to make a post it takes you title and compares it to similar posts to try and prevent double posting. People just need to pay attention to that
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Ok so first off, sorry if this is in the wrong section, please correct me as im kinda new. Also, I have searched the thread and couldnt find anything on this but if this is a double post, im sorry.
Now as of right now, the galaxy s4 google edition is still just a rumor. If it turns out to be real, and the hardware is the same as the att version, is there any way we could get the odin image, decompile it, put the att modem and bootloader in, then flash it? Would it work?
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Ok so first off, sorry if this is in the wrong section, please correct me as im kinda new. Also, I have searched the thread and couldnt find anything on this but if this is a double post, im sorry.
Now as of right now, the galaxy s4 google edition is still just a rumor. If it turns out to be real, and the hardware is the same as the att version, is there any way we could get the odin image, decompile it, put the att modem and bootloader in, then flash it? Would it work?
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Why not post this in here, or at least read the thread because it is already being discussed? At the time I am posting this, this thread is literally 2 posts above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279127
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Why not post this in here, or at least read the thread because it is already being discussed? At the time I am posting this, this thread is literally 2 posts above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279127
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Yeah I saw this but it didnt exactly duscuss what im trying to here. What I would loke to know is if we could get the odin image and port it to the att version without having to unlock the bootloader or anything. Just flash it through odin as if it were a stock image.
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Yeah in that other thread, they are linking to the definition on "****!" needless to say it's way off topic. I too am wondering the same. Being that there are no hardware differences, I don't see it being a problem to share Roms. It's already gonna support AT&T and T Mobile frequencies, so I think it will be a share great between the different models!
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Well we are in the att galaxy s4 forum so why wouldnt we all be on the same topic? Its already annouced it will support att bands so no need for modifying
j510 said:
Well we are in the att galaxy s4 forum so why wouldnt we all be on the same topic? Its already annouced it will support att bands so no need for modifying
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He's talking about using the information to unlock the bootloader for the SGS4 ATT version.
I think we'll just have to sit tight and see what the developers dig up and figure out.
xZip- said:
Ok so first off, sorry if this is in the wrong section, please correct me as im kinda new. Also, I have searched the thread and couldnt find anything on this but if this is a double post, im sorry.
Now as of right now, the galaxy s4 google edition is still just a rumor. If it turns out to be real, and the hardware is the same as the att version, is there any way we could get the odin image, decompile it, put the att modem and bootloader in, then flash it? Would it work?
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To be honest, it all depends on which bootloader the Google version comes with. AT&T bootloader is locked but T-Mobile is unlocked. Now I don't know a lot about bootloaders so please correct me, but if the Google version comes unlocked, it would most likely be the same as the T-Mobile one. I know for a fact using a T-Mobile stock ROM through ODIN on an AT&T S4 does not work. So until the bootloader is unlocked you won't be able to flash the Google stock ROM.
Supporting both AT&T and T-Mobile networks simply means it will work on both frequencies of LTE service. This has nothing to do with the bootloader because unlocking the phone from AT&T doesn't unlock the bootloader but the phone will work on the T-Mobile network.
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He's talking about using the information to unlock the bootloader for the SGS4 ATT version.
I think we'll just have to sit tight and see what the developers dig up and figure out.
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He specifically said using the AT&T bootloader. I don't think he's trying to unlock the bootloader this way, I just think he's trying to run stock Android using the same technique for getting out of a recovery loop (flashing stock ROM through ODIN). Without an unlocked bootloader this won't be possible because the ROM won't flash.
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Unbelievable. why are we doing this? there are many threads on this...PLEASE PEOPLE! If you are new, I understand, but it is not hard to scroll down a few pages and see same topics that you can input your opinions. The G4 forums are not HUGE yet, real easy, just look.
I'll say it again before someone else has too, NO IT WILL NOT UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER! Bootloader encryption is deep and the kernel must be signed by AT&T in order to load. The Google GS4 is OBVIOUSLY NOT going to have the same bootloader since they are not AT&T, simple as that. Flash your GS4 with a Google ROM and Kernel and you will be bricked and or it just won't even flash.
NOW PLEASE STOP ASKING!
Jesus people, he's asking about the possibility of converting our phones into the Google Edition with an Odin flash. Where the hell did this get misconstrued as asking if it will unlock his bootloader? Take a couple benadryl and get off the computer for an hour. The guy just wants stock aosp on his phone, like many of us wouldn't mind having.
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TheAxman said:
Unbelievable. why are we doing this? there are many threads on this...PLEASE PEOPLE! If you are new, I understand, but it is not hard to scroll down a few pages and see same topics that you can input your opinions. The G4 forums are not HUGE yet, real easy, just look.
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You need to calm down. Plain and simple. The other threads are talking about unlocking the bootloader, this one is not. He simply asked about flashing AOSP on an AT&T phone with the original bootloader.
Thermalwolf said:
I'll say it again before someone else has too, NO IT WILL NOT UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER! Bootloader encryption is deep and the kernel must be signed by AT&T in order to load. The Google GS4 is OBVIOUSLY NOT going to have the same bootloader since they are not AT&T, simple as that. Flash your GS4 with a Google ROM and Kernel and you will be bricked and or it just won't even flash.
NOW PLEASE STOP ASKING!
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Same as above. Calm down. How about you actually read the damn post instead of seeing the word bootloader and crying about it. NOTHING in the original post was about unlocking the bootloader. He wanted to flash AOSP and IF you would have read my reply you would have known this.
I'm so sick of pompous people on this forum already and I've only been a member for 2 days. READ the question. Answer it. Stop being pricks about it especially when you're flipping out about something not even asked.
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I think everyone is just having rom flashing withdrawls..
Wooosaa everyone.. Wooosaa
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Nitroglycerin said:
You need to calm down. Plain and simple. The other threads are talking about unlocking the bootloader, this one is not. He simply asked about flashing AOSP on an AT&T phone with the original bootloader.
Same as above. Calm down. How about you actually read the damn post instead of seeing the word bootloader and crying about it. NOTHING in the original post was about unlocking the bootloader. He wanted to flash AOSP and IF you would have read my reply you would have known this.
I'm so sick of pompous people on this forum already and I've only been a member for 2 days. READ the question. Answer it. Stop being pricks about it especially when you're flipping out about something not even asked.
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I'm sorry I thought the OP was more intelligent then that and thought it was implied given you can't flash the ROM without an unlocked bootloader. Maybe YOU need to chill and stop being pompous. You've been a member for two days, I've been a member for two years.
I hate to be a **** but the forum has been flooded with the same questions over and over without any thought or care of trying to search for answers other then for themselves. It needs to stop, enabling it is not helping the situation.
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I'm so sick of pompous people on this forum already and I've only been a member for 2 days. READ the question. Answer it. Stop being pricks about it especially when you're flipping out about something not even asked.
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I have better idea how about just search for your own answers instead of posting and then you won't have to deal with the pompous pricks.
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I'm sorry I thought the OP was more intelligent then that and thought it was implied given you can't flash the ROM without a locked bootloader. Maybe YOU need to chill and stop being pompous. You've been a member for two days, I've been a member for two years.
I hate to be a **** but the forum has been flooded with the same questions over and over without any thought or care of trying to search for answers other then for themselves. It needs to stop, enabling it is not helping the situation.
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You "thought the OP was more intelligent," however you must have decidedly skip on reading the FIRST sentence in the post where he is apologizing if its in the wrong section and that he is "new here." Your assumptions led you down the path to what Nitro posted and fairly gave me the same impression (without the name calling). Either way, its cleared up now. Lets just move on.
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You "thought the OP was more intelligent," however you must have decidedly skip on reading the FIRST sentence in the post where he is apologizing if its in the wrong section and that he is "new here." Your assumptions led you down the path to what Nitro posted and fairly gave me the same impression (without the name calling). Either way, its cleared up now. Lets just move on.
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Well I was still trying to answer OP but I didn't realize I didn't reply properly. I was also freaking on Nitro for even bringing up the bootloader as well. Either way I'm done then, I'll move on if everyone else will
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I'm sorry I thought the OP was more intelligent then that and thought it was implied given you can't flash the ROM without an unlocked bootloader. Maybe YOU need to chill and stop being pompous. You've been a member for two days, I've been a member for two years.
I hate to be a **** but the forum has been flooded with the same questions over and over without any thought or care of trying to search for answers other then for themselves. It needs to stop, enabling it is not helping the situation.
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Hes not talking about flashing roms you tool.
Hes talking about using odin and using the google s4 files instead of the att s4 file. Not that hard of a concept to get nor is it necessary to rage over.
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You've been a member for two days, I've been a member for two years.
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Friendly reminder: being here for 2 years doesn't give you the right to be a **** to a new user when he wasn't even asking about what you posted. That being said, I'm not posting this to continue the argument. You said you'd be done and so will I. However, just to clarify, I only brought up the bootloader to explain that flashing AOSP won't work and explained why.
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I have better idea how about just search for your own answers instead of posting and then you won't have to deal with the pompous pricks.
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Normally I do, but since I provided an answer, I couldn't search for it lol
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Nitroglycerin said:
I'm so sick of pompous people on this forum already and I've only been a member for 2 days.
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When I was brand new here, I sorta thought the same way. The things is though, I read every single thread and post about my phone. I didn't ask a question that was already answered ten times over. That's where noobs go wrong. They don't read. They're (often times) too lazy to do any of their own foot-work to try and solve their problem or answer their question. It's not so much people being pompous as it's devs and members are just tired of the same old thing over and over again. This has been going on long before I was a member.
There was a dev that made ROMs for my old phone. They were my favorite! You know what happened? That dev got tired of people posting the same questions and flooding his inbox with the same crap. So, because of lazy people, myself and everyone else that used his ROMs suffered. That's when I stopped caring about how some people respond to others. Spend a few years here and I think you'll have a better understanding of that.
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When I was brand new here, I sorta thought the same way. The things is though, I read every single thread and post about my phone. I didn't ask a question that was already answered ten times over. That's where noobs go wrong. They don't read. They're (often times) too lazy to do any of their own foot-work to try and solve their problem or answer their question. It's not so much people being pompous as it's devs and members are just tired of the same old thing over and over again. This has been going on long before I was a member.
There was a dev that made ROMs for my old phone. They were my favorite! You know what happened? That dev got tired of people posting the same questions and flooding his inbox with the same crap. So, because of lazy people, myself and everyone else that used his ROMs suffered. That's when I stopped caring about how some people respond to others. Spend a few years here and I think you'll have a better understanding of that.
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There's a difference between someone starting a new thread and people flooding one particular dev. Besides, the issue here was unique (and apparently some "experienced" people still aren't grokking why).
People do need to chill out about this sort of thing. Besides, the search function is kind of ****ty and is not working half the time, so cut people some slack if there's some overlap. It's not going to hurt you.