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Time to teach an old dog some new tricks. Being an AT&T customer for over 10 years it should come as no surprise that I'm an absolulte stranger to 4G . I have few questions though and hope someone can steer a little 4G knowledge my way.
1) When 4G hits will we need to be on a stock rom and radio?
2) For those of you already in HSPA areas (lucky bastards) what kind of speeds are you experiencing.
Thanks in advance
I think when 4g hits all we will need is a new sim card but I could be wrong
ATT runs hspa+ as "4g", which will go to 21Mbps, then 42Mbps. Then ATT will roll out LTE as real 4g soon too, which will be a whole new network, new frequencies, and need new phone hardware antennas and radio. LTE speeds can go very high, talking about 100Mbps eventually.
pavaccar said:
I think when 4g hits all we will need is a new sim card but I could be wrong
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I think the sim card stuff is hokey. I'm more worried about custom Roms and radios. Like will we be able to run CM7 when 4G drops.
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lrs421 said:
I think the sim card stuff is hokey. I'm more worried about custom Roms and radios. Like will we be able to run CM7 when 4G drops.
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Yep we will need a lte phone and 4g sim. HSPA + will work fine on different roms. Dallas has it and ive gotten speeds over 6 dl. Stock radio and custom rom.
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Yep we will need a lte phone and 4g sim. HSPA + will work fine on different roms. Dallas has it and ive gotten speeds over 6 dl. Stock radio and custom rom.
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That's the feedback I was after. 6mb, nice!
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Well ATT's current hspa will be able to go up to 42Mbps when they turn it on. Look at current t-mobile speeds, its the same technology and they run 21Mbps with users seeing 9Mbps in select areas, and higher. So same applies to ATT.
I am in southern california, supposed "4G" coverage area; only get between
500k to 1.5mb/s. Stock rom and rooted, same result. Att blows.
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I am in southern california, supposed "4G" coverage area; only get between
500k to 1.5mb/s. Stock rom and rooted, same result. Att blows.
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That sucks. I feel your pain.
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divinewisdom said:
I am in southern california, supposed "4G" coverage area; only get between
500k to 1.5mb/s. Stock rom and rooted, same result. Att blows.
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Did you edit your build.prop to enable higher data speeds?
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Did you edit your build.prop to enable higher data speeds?
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thats my next step. I am using TPC optimized stock rom, which should have some build prop edit to it already, but will try to tweak it some more and see the reaults. I doubt I will see anything over 3mbs....
What's your build prop settings
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Yep we will need a lte phone and 4g sim. HSPA + will work fine on different roms. Dallas has it and ive gotten speeds over 6 dl. Stock radio and custom rom.
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Chicago here, I get 6 down and 1.5 up on non-peak data times. I don't think the sim card is a non-issue considering that hspa+ is just an evolved 3g technology. I can't wait for a more consistent speed, even though I use wifi most of the time. I am using cognition hd right now and still getting these speeds.
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divinewisdom said:
thats my next step. I am using TPC optimized stock rom, which should have some build prop edit to it already, but will try to tweak it some more and see the reaults. I doubt I will see anything over 3mbs....
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Here in socal I see 3 Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up.
I am sorry if this has been described elsewhere. I have tried looking and have not been able to find anything.
I have a question regarding my dl speed really I suppose. My phone is unlocked and through Cincinnati bell. I have heard that I should be able to use tmobiles towers and get the 4g speeds. However I have not ever had 4g with this phone and I know its around the area. A friend has the same rom on the same phone and we will be sitting side by side with him having 4g and mine not as much as toggling over to 4g for a second.
On top of that when I run my speedtest.net speed it shows me as just over a 1100kbps. I was wondering if the issue is because of my apn settings that I manually put in. I use apn manager and input Cbw Internet and MMS in using the information on Cincinnati Bells Website.
Should I use Tmobiles apn settings? That just does not sound like it would work to me.
I use simple mobile which uses Tmobile's towers. They offer a few different plans and only the top plan allows 4G speeds. I am using simple mobiles apn settings. I get 20mb down.
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Try to flash the different modems on
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Somairotevoli said:
I use simple mobile which uses Tmobile's towers. They offer a few different plans and only the top plan allows 4G speeds. I am using simple mobiles apn settings. I get 20mb down.
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Same here
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hey there I/'m living in St. Kitts in the Caribbean.
LIME the network provider upgraded from EDGE to 4g on Friday, but I realise since then my phone is only showing H (3G) and not H+(4G).
i am wondering if this has anything to do with the rom i'm currently running (trickdroid) or not?
I was in the city centre friday night where they had the launch and pretty close to the cell tower so I know distance isn't the issue
Thanks for the help in advance
Most roms don't display the +. Its purely cosmetic. Only roms I know that display it are based on the inspire 3.20 version.
Again its purely cosmetic and does not effect speed. Heck the phone is only capable of 14mbs Max. I would say 3.5 g Max
Thanks for the response I was just wondering. Makes sense with what you are saying. And I just realise something I tried another Rom, it wasn't even loading so had to restor this on and realised that while booting up it went from E to 3G to H. But I don't think I'm getting even 2 mb from this will take a screen shot and post to you.thx again for the response.
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Attached is speed test I just ran. The last two take a look please . My upload more than double my download. Real ridiculous
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Attached is speed test I just ran. The last two take a look please . My upload more than double my download. Real ridiculous
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Depending on what ROM you're using, I've found Speedtest to be somewhat unreliable for whatever reason. For example, I'm running Sabsa Prime 7.0. When I do a test on wifi, I get 15+mbps down and around 4mbps up with 30 ping. When I run it on 4g, I get 7kbps down and 2mbps up with 150 ping. Obviously my actual 4g speeds are not 7kbps. On ARHD with the same radio the test showed 6-8mbps down and 3.5mbps up with 70 ping.
In summary, unless you feel that your real use speed is really that slow, forget what Speedtest says.
Ok cool got you.
But I can tell it's really slow as well. I will try one of those other rims cause this one iy takes a while to switch to programs etc. And I don't have a lot running in the background. The only thing I've realise though is that I've not yet learned how to bring over my settings ( WiFi and apn etc even my contacts ) when going from one Rom.to the the next.
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Actually...
If you edit your build.prop, faster speeds can be obtained.
Also H+ is 4G, but its not like LTE speeds or anywhere close. It is more like a couple mbs above 3G.
Speedtest is fine. Your data icon will sometimes lie to you. No joke. It'll say H+, but in reality it is 3G. All depends on your signal strength.
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Thanks, how do I edit my build?
I am not sure what's going on it is.very slow and I am wondering if the Rom is the problem wondering if I should go back to the original 4g Rom that came with the phone
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positiveg said:
Thanks, how do I edit my build?
I am not sure what's going on it is.very slow and I am wondering if the Rom is the problem wondering if I should go back to the original 4g Rom that came with the phone
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You'll need an app like "Root Explorer". Through the app you navigate to "/system" and long press the "build.prop" and edit. You may encounter an error message with something like "file is in read-only" which then you will have to change the settings to "write only" or something like that to edit which can be done in the explorer app. Once you get that far you can edit the build.prop to your liking. For settings that people have found useful search the forums.
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The only thing I've realise though is that I've not yet learned how to bring over my settings ( WiFi and apn etc even my contacts ) when going from one Rom.to the the next.
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If you're syncing to Google, your wifi passwords, contacts, even wallpaper will automatically restore when logging back into Google after switching ROMs.
Thanks I realise the apps came back bit not sure the WiFi passwords did. I'm really trying to find a Rom for Inspire 4g that
Has the correct weather location showing at least thanks
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Well personally I just use sence analog clock widget on mine one of them found my little nowhere town so maybe one of the virsions will work for you too
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My Verizon wireless plan does not allow unlimited data since I recently upgraded my phone. The unlimited data plan was discontinued after they came up with their new family share all plan. I am an internet junky and love to read about different topics and at times watch videos, and I recently switched from the AOKP ROM and they had a 3G toggle, and, as most of you know, 3G does not kill your data as much 4G. Paranoid Android does not have this toggle and I was wondering if I was the only one who thought that was kind of upsetting. The ROM is pretty amazing though. It has yo be the best one I've had on my phone yet. But am I the only one who was wondering this?
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Whowahn said:
My Verizon wireless plan does not allow unlimited data since I recently upgraded my phone. The unlimited data plan was discontinued after they came up with their new family share all plan. I am an internet junky and love to read about different topics and at times watch videos, and I recently switched from the AOKP ROM and they had a 3G toggle, and, as most of you know, 3G does not kill your data as much 4G. Paranoid Android does not have this toggle and I was wondering if I was the only one who thought that was kind of upsetting. The ROM is pretty amazing though. It has yo be the best one I've had on my phone yet. But am I the only one who was wondering this?
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Not to be rude, but why dont you just change the setting to cdma only?
I haven't used PA for a while... you could always download phone info from the market and manually change it there
Here's the market link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=myc.phone.PhoneInfo
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Settings-->mobile network-->system select-->CDMA (aka 3g)
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Settings-->mobile network-->system select-->CDMA (aka 3g)
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Thanks for the info!:good:
System select isn't available. Phone info app amazing. Small app big usefulness.
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As far as I've read 4G doesn't use more data than 3G, it just uses it faster because pages and whatnot load faster.
I mean... loading yahoo.com uses the same amount of data whether you're on 3G, 4G or wifi.
Right...?
My data usage per month is the exact same with my Galaxy as it was with my 3G phones. And I haven't changed the way I use my phone.
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josh995 said:
As far as I've read 4G doesn't use more data than 3G, it just uses it faster because pages and whatnot load faster.
I mean... loading yahoo.com uses the same amount of data whether you're on 3G, 4G or wifi.
Right...?
My data usage per month is the exact same with my Galaxy as it was with my 3G phones. And I haven't changed the way I use my phone.
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Thats correct
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I love PA but with .52 my data is dropping like crazy :sad:
All 4G does is allow data to transfer faster. Website "A" does not use more data simply because it is being transferred over 4G as opposed to 3G. A 250kb file will be the same across both, you'll just get it much faster on 4G.
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I have not been able to connect with 4g since I modded Blaze.
I have used many ROMs and settings, searched for weeks to find answer to activate 4g, no joy.
4g works perfectly with stock Rom. My wife has identical phone that easily and automatically picks up 4g sitting next to me while my modded phone only gets 3G or occasionally H+. We have swapped SIMs to confirm SIM and hardware are functional as well as signal reception.
I have uploaded and reloaded many different mods: stable, nightly, paranoid, Pac man, etc.- Same result, everything works pretty well except never 4G
All installs were clean and fresh.
I have seen this question in this forum and other, but no replies/ solution.
Anyone have an answer why the 4G does not work on my modded Blaze?
H+ is 4g it's just displayed differently. Nothing is wrong with your phone.
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tommyboy8125 said:
H+ is 4g it's just displayed differently. Nothing is wrong with your phone.
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I suspected, but could not confirm that H+ and 4g were the same, Thank you
P.S. Speeds on H+ with 4 bars are ping 1048ms, 9.19 Mbps Down and 1.87 Mbps down. Isn't 4G faster?
Our phones do not have true 4g. The stock ROM shows 4g more as a marketing gimmick. I'm my experience with the blaze 3g has better ping times while 4g or whatever you want to call it has better speeds. Of course it all depends on location
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tommyboy8125 said:
Our phones do not have true 4g. The stock ROM shows 4g more as a marketing gimmick. I'm my experience with the blaze 3g has better ping times while 4g or whatever you want to call it has better speeds. Of course it all depends on location
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Thanks again, I guess reassurance is what I needed!
If you want 4G, get an LTE phon
EDIT: Oh I'm sorry, I just realized that H+ is like 3.5G or something. I have the exhibit "4g" and it was H or 3.5G
Either that or H was 2.5G
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Well that was helpful.
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Kotetsukun said:
If you want 4G, get an LTE phone
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Not really helpful replying to a really old thread. You are pretty much talking to yourself by saying that comment.