My Verizon wireless plan does not allow unlimited data since I recently upgraded my phone. The unlimited data plan was discontinued after they came up with their new family share all plan. I am an internet junky and love to read about different topics and at times watch videos, and I recently switched from the AOKP ROM and they had a 3G toggle, and, as most of you know, 3G does not kill your data as much 4G. Paranoid Android does not have this toggle and I was wondering if I was the only one who thought that was kind of upsetting. The ROM is pretty amazing though. It has yo be the best one I've had on my phone yet. But am I the only one who was wondering this?
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My Verizon wireless plan does not allow unlimited data since I recently upgraded my phone. The unlimited data plan was discontinued after they came up with their new family share all plan. I am an internet junky and love to read about different topics and at times watch videos, and I recently switched from the AOKP ROM and they had a 3G toggle, and, as most of you know, 3G does not kill your data as much 4G. Paranoid Android does not have this toggle and I was wondering if I was the only one who thought that was kind of upsetting. The ROM is pretty amazing though. It has yo be the best one I've had on my phone yet. But am I the only one who was wondering this?
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Not to be rude, but why dont you just change the setting to cdma only?
I haven't used PA for a while... you could always download phone info from the market and manually change it there
Here's the market link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=myc.phone.PhoneInfo
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Settings-->mobile network-->system select-->CDMA (aka 3g)
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Settings-->mobile network-->system select-->CDMA (aka 3g)
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Thanks for the info!:good:
System select isn't available. Phone info app amazing. Small app big usefulness.
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As far as I've read 4G doesn't use more data than 3G, it just uses it faster because pages and whatnot load faster.
I mean... loading yahoo.com uses the same amount of data whether you're on 3G, 4G or wifi.
Right...?
My data usage per month is the exact same with my Galaxy as it was with my 3G phones. And I haven't changed the way I use my phone.
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josh995 said:
As far as I've read 4G doesn't use more data than 3G, it just uses it faster because pages and whatnot load faster.
I mean... loading yahoo.com uses the same amount of data whether you're on 3G, 4G or wifi.
Right...?
My data usage per month is the exact same with my Galaxy as it was with my 3G phones. And I haven't changed the way I use my phone.
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Thats correct
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I love PA but with .52 my data is dropping like crazy :sad:
All 4G does is allow data to transfer faster. Website "A" does not use more data simply because it is being transferred over 4G as opposed to 3G. A 250kb file will be the same across both, you'll just get it much faster on 4G.
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Those without unlimited minutes will take comfort in the fact that T-Mobile will not count wi-fi calling against your minutes starting 5/11:
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/t-mobile-bring-unlimited-wifi-calling-back/
This just plain kicks butt!
I bee happy!
Awesome. Man my gf would really benefit that. She constantly goes over her minutes and we have a great wifi connection here.
+1 reason why Tmo rocks
what about international calling?
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what about international calling?
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ooh good question that I want to know the answer to. If you find out, can you pm me (and I'll do the same). mm kay? thanks
Anyone got wifi calling? this sounds like a reason to get it back. I should have froze it andnot deleted it..
This is huge in my opinion. Great selling point for those of us in the cellular industry.
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Wow! I would not have gotten unlimited mins if I knew this before.
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Wow! I would not have gotten unlimited mins if I knew this before.
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I have Acess to WIFI everywhere I go even at work.
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You have to add this on for 9.99 a month. Its not just "free"
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Isn't wifi using my bandwidth
I don't understand how t-mobile could count this against your minutes in the 1st place. Are you using their system in any way when you are on a wifi call? It's like skype right? Your using your broadband providers bandwidth. Why should you pay tmobile at all? If anything your're saving their bandwidth when making calls on wifi.
Or do I have this all wrong? It's moot for me cause I'll be on the unlimited plan when these activate tomorrow.
But when I first saw mention of the wifi calling, it never occured to me that Tmobile was charging for it.
Same thing with surfing the web on wifi...you are taking the strain off their system.
They use your bandwidth to an endpoint they own and then switch the call normally over their networks.
With WiFi connectivity you don't traverse their servers so it doesn't cost them.
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They use your bandwidth to an endpoint they own and then switch the call normally over their networks......meaning their wifi calling app?With WiFi connectivity you don't traverse their servers so it doesn't cost them.
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....meaning Skype?
That would not be correct. Calls still have to be routed through their network--through their PBXs and switches.
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You have to add this on for 9.99 a month. Its not just "free"
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that is the old feature. The new one will be completely free if your phone is compatible with wifi calling.
just got the galaxy s and used up my 2 gigs in one day, now the internet is so slow I cant even load the market. Is there anyway to bypass this I need unlimited.
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I believe you can upgrade to a 5 or 10 gig at an extra cost. Curious as to how you burned 2 gigs in one day though.
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just got the galaxy s and used up my 2 gigs in one day, now the internet is so slow I cant even load the market. Is there anyway to bypass this I need unlimited.
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Chances are you have unlimited. But it doesn't matter as soon as you hit your cap you will be throttled. I'm allotted 5gb a month and if I use it all before my next billing cycle I have the same problem as you. My suggestion to you would to use wifi if available or change your data plan.
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Two gigs in one day is insane usage.. he's right use wifi
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I eould use wifi.but I dont have.home internet and I use.my phone as my main internet and I used it in one day by downloading a movie and some music. But isnt there a way to change the apn settings or flashing a differnt radio to bypass the throttling?
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I eould use wifi.but I dont have.home internet and I use.my phone as my main internet and I used it in one day by downloading a movie and some music. But isnt there a way to change the apn settings or flashing a differnt radio to bypass the throttling?
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Sorry but if that was possible we would all tell T-Mobile to suck it and get free data.
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I remember people cheating this on AT&T and they were busted cuz' AT&T found out. My humble suggestion is stay with the 2gb plan and try to get internet for your house. I also use my phone as main internet but I keep it cool. I have only managed to get to 4.3gb in a month using the tv shows apk. Never been able to use more than 5gb.
I know, it s**ks to be throttled. I have 2 friends that always get throttled and they want to die. LOL
hello, this not the case with me. I'm in bay area if that's matter, and im not being throttled now for 4 months in a raw.But i am with one of those grandfathered plans 20 unlimited.I have it with the blackberry 8120 witch bought 2007 it was edge.So right now im doing about 20 gb per month on average , but still not tethering .Im starting to tether tough due to very high prices on Comcast and the speed is comparable with t mobile.But i will try not not being throthled again becouse of a tethering - there is way to hide you from the pc.
Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
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Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
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How much data were you using?
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You do the crime, you pay the time.
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How much data were you using, what APN, and in what location?
Switch to sprint?
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Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
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Hard to do! The data usage patterns of a mobile device n that of a computer vary a lot. The bandwidth used within a period of time is a sure shot indicator of the same. Best would be to get a home internet.
It seems like they are wising up --- or determined some new way of detecting it. Give us more information.
I also tether a lot and now im concerned! I was just discussing this on the Captivate forum. Another user recently got caught: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1269283
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How much data were you using, what APN, and in what location?
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Im using the s7 rom with the new ki modem. So whatever the default apn is for that.
I've used 8gb this week
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I am not sure if they do it off data usage or mac address. I know when I stream Siruis radio that is uses the same data that my laptop does. I have hit 5mb of usage in a month with I play about 6-7 hours of Siruis each day at work.
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Im using the s7 rom with the new ki modem. So whatever the default apn is for that.
I've used 8gb this week
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8GB this WEEK???? Give up and pay for tethering. There's no way you're going to be able to play that off as phone usage.
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AT&T has the ability to do deep packet inspection to determine what OS is sending the packets - there are some fingerprints they can use to tell that it isn't an Android device.
This is a resource-intensive process so they normally don't do it.
But if you use 8GB in a WEEK, you can be sure they're going to investigate if that usage actually came from just the phone.
So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
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So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
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How did you reach that conclusion from this thread?
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So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
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Maybe. I haven't gotten a nastygram yet and I tether my tablet all the time, but that's it.
I'm responsible about data usage though - even with moderate tethering I've never gone more than 500-700 MB per month.
I haven't gotten anything yet either (knock on wood) but I did get one of those "you are in the top 5%" emails this month. So I will be watching my usage a lot more considering multiple, members on various forms here are recently reporting this from AT&T.
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OMG. 8 gigs in a week. Lulz. How? No torrents on teathering. My 2 cents
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I know this seems like a joke, but really, switch to Sprint. Unlimited means UNLIMITED, on 3G or 4G (although you're much safer tethering on 4G since they don't give a damn how you use it). That, and we have the GSII.
All carriers have a teathering plan in the works, even sprint. Soon teathering will only work with the proper plan. People have taken this for granted and abused the unlimited data which was not designed for 8gb a week usage. I know that is extreme. Think about it. The unlimited was made when the average person had no idea a phone could do it. Hell I ran my whole shop off a teathered connection to my tilt when our internet went down. But that was rare. Now every kid in the world has a phone that can do it, do they use it responsibily? Nope they are streaming movies in class, music.....you get the point lol. I can't blame the carriers. As more and more people live their lives with their faces buried in a phone or tablet, the data network that runs these device will need to be changed from what we are used to. With the new system you will not be able to hide what device is using the connection. So now its time to man/woman up and either get home internet or pay for the teathering.
I got the email ....i dont tether.
I tethered 1 time last week to test functionality on gtgs new thrill rom....
Is there maybe an apn issue where they think i am tethering when i am not????
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Tethering a infuse thru a infuse would make it look as though I'm not tethering at all, no? No Pc or different operating system involved.
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Has anyone else gotten a message that this will be blocked if the service isnt added???
And if anyone can explain how this is something different that can be charged for if it is a feature of the phone... Using the same unlimited data...
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Not sure about that, but if you want wifi tethering, look up barnacle wifi tether in the market.
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Can tmobile detect you using that app? i was using the one in gingerbread under settings when i got the message...
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http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
You want this.
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If it keeps up, go to your apn settings and create a new one with the apn internet2.voicestream.com and you should be able to bypass the tethering message. If you keep it by default, mms will fail with that apn. You should be able to set the epc apn for mms only and the other for internet. something like that.
You can also try internet3.voicestream.com also. Speeds vary for the two apn's based on my experience.
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Has anyone else gotten a message that this will be blocked if the service isnt added???
And if anyone can explain how this is something different that can be charged for if it is a feature of the phone... Using the same unlimited data...
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Yes, Tmobile has an additional package you must purchase to use tethering and hotspot. 15 and 10 per month, respectively.
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I've used Open Garden and never gotten a message, but you can also use USB tethering and avoid any greediness from Tmobile.
Thabks for all thw suggestions everyone. I am currently trying the open garden one.
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I would only see this when using Internet explorer. Use google chrome and you shouldn't have a problem.
I used if on stock Rom and never got charged wierd...
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Two tmobile phones using 5gb data/ month each for over 7 months, 4gb a month from computer using mobile AP....haven't had a warning yet. I read on another thread a long time ago that people where or where not getting notices depending on their type of data use....file sharing etc...not sure if that holds true all of the time though.
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My sisters phone slows down after awile, and she uses netflix for about an hour, she gets a warning but we are no where even close to 5gb download.
I just got the T-mobile $30 5GB "unlimited"/ 100 minute prepaid voice plan.
In a short test the built in wifi hotspot feature in the stock Gingerbread Settings tab seems to work. T-mobile does not offer any add-ons for tethering on this plan.
Is it safe to use this built in feature, or should I be looking for some other app (open garden?) to do this?
nope this is what my dad uses and works great. if you have problems with it then get an alternative wifi tether.
clockworkmod tether is still in beta but I have it on my phone and it works great. google it. the software package you install on your pc installs the apk on your phone.
Me and my wife have been using the mobile AP for over a year and we just upgraded to ginger bread and now when we use it we get a message telling us we have to upgrade our plan and then next time we try to use it the Web will not work it just sends you to Tmobile. We tried downloading pda net from the market but you still can't go to sights that require passwords. It would be nice to find a way around this.
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I actually got that message twice (on stock, never since running custom ROMs), but they never followed through. Of course I don't use my phones data for my laptop often, only on rare occasion and usually not for more than a few minutes.
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Tmobile can kiss my rear end on this one, they certainly did NOT have a tethering plan when I purchased the phone and its rediculouse to try to charge me now for a feature that was on the phone and free for the longest time now
cwm tether hides the fact that you are using a tether from tmobile
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cwm tether hides the fact that you are using a tether from tmobile
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As does PDANet, I've been using that since my Treo 650 and the paid version is worth every penny.
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I have not been able to connect with 4g since I modded Blaze.
I have used many ROMs and settings, searched for weeks to find answer to activate 4g, no joy.
4g works perfectly with stock Rom. My wife has identical phone that easily and automatically picks up 4g sitting next to me while my modded phone only gets 3G or occasionally H+. We have swapped SIMs to confirm SIM and hardware are functional as well as signal reception.
I have uploaded and reloaded many different mods: stable, nightly, paranoid, Pac man, etc.- Same result, everything works pretty well except never 4G
All installs were clean and fresh.
I have seen this question in this forum and other, but no replies/ solution.
Anyone have an answer why the 4G does not work on my modded Blaze?
H+ is 4g it's just displayed differently. Nothing is wrong with your phone.
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tommyboy8125 said:
H+ is 4g it's just displayed differently. Nothing is wrong with your phone.
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I suspected, but could not confirm that H+ and 4g were the same, Thank you
P.S. Speeds on H+ with 4 bars are ping 1048ms, 9.19 Mbps Down and 1.87 Mbps down. Isn't 4G faster?
Our phones do not have true 4g. The stock ROM shows 4g more as a marketing gimmick. I'm my experience with the blaze 3g has better ping times while 4g or whatever you want to call it has better speeds. Of course it all depends on location
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Our phones do not have true 4g. The stock ROM shows 4g more as a marketing gimmick. I'm my experience with the blaze 3g has better ping times while 4g or whatever you want to call it has better speeds. Of course it all depends on location
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Thanks again, I guess reassurance is what I needed!
If you want 4G, get an LTE phon
EDIT: Oh I'm sorry, I just realized that H+ is like 3.5G or something. I have the exhibit "4g" and it was H or 3.5G
Either that or H was 2.5G
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Well that was helpful.
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Kotetsukun said:
If you want 4G, get an LTE phone
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Not really helpful replying to a really old thread. You are pretty much talking to yourself by saying that comment.