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No hspa+??

I live in a hspa+ area and my network constantly says hspa.....is it supposed to say that or would is display hspa? Thanks
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*hspa+
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106 views and not one comment? Yo guys are lame
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laker666 said:
106 views and not one comment? Yo guys are lame
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We aren't the ones with simple questions with even simpler answers, now who's the lame?
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stefan.buddle said:
We aren't the ones with simple questions with even simpler answers, now who's the lame?
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get the speedtest.net app.... post results
it may just be showing you onething and doing another

Mine says hspa in settings. Not +. Here are my results. Whats the average on hspa and on plus ? Not sure if im
Getting + speeds or not.
ok...i cant post pic from my phone here. But my average was between 5 and 6.5 mbps. Slow uploads though. Nothing higher than 1.5.

laker666 said:
106 views and not one comment? Yo guys are lame
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lame? we are lame because you cant figure out if your phone is working right?
wow.
ok.
well like one said run speed test. compare.
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crazythunder said:
Mine says hspa in settings. Not +. Here are my results. Whats the average on hspa and on plus ? Not sure if im
Getting + speeds or not.
ok...i cant post pic from my phone here. But my average was between 5 and 6.5 mbps. Slow uploads though. Nothing higher than 1.5.
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Those are excellent speeds for this phone. You are on HSPA+ for sure, otherwise you'd be getting less than 1-3 Mbps down/0.5-1.0 Mbps up if you were on 3G only.
Also your phone should say "4G" right in the status bar, which is what T-Mobile calls HSPA+.

I didn't mean the lame comment but I knew it would get me results. I do average between 4 and as high as 11 mbps so the speeds reflect hspa+ I just assumed it would say hspa+ not hspa in my settings.
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I get the 4G icon instead of the H or H+...
Odd...

moshe22 said:
I get the 4G icon instead of the H or H+...
Odd...
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This is the expected behaviour. He was talking about the label for "4G" or HSPA+ in settings. HSPA+ is simply T-Mobile's version of 4G. Which, for what it's worth, isn't technically 4G.

The status bar indicator isn't accurate. Side-by-side, my G2 with Mobile Signal PRO shows 3G while the G2X never moves from 4G. Mobile Signal PRO never registers anything above 3G on the G2X which is weird. I have friends that use it on Samsung and HTC phones and it's always spot-on and it's always been accurate on my G2. I think there's something funky going on with the LG radio software.

its propably not fully optimized for the g2x yet

BarryH_GEG said:
The status bar indicator isn't accurate. Side-by-side, my G2 with Mobile Signal PRO shows 3G while the G2X never moves from 4G. Mobile Signal PRO never registers anything above 3G on the G2X which is weird. I have friends that use it on Samsung and HTC phones and it's always spot-on and it's always been accurate on my G2. I think there's something funky going on with the LG radio software.
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That or mobile signal pro is not optimize for lg radio hardware.
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moshe22 said:
That or mobile signal pro is not optimize for lg radio hardware.
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It works on a friends P990 in the Netherlands so it must be specific to the T-Mobile version of the radio. I e-mailed the dev to find out what's up.

There will not be an H or H+ icon... its 4g... hspa is too many letters for the general public to deal with...
Also, Phoenix does not have 4g yet however I am getting the 4g signal when i am on UMTS.. YOU DONT FOOL ME TMOBILE! I am pretty sure there is not even a 3g icon on our phones, anyone wanna get into the files and look? I am on campus and cannot check this but I think it would be funny if they did not even install a 3g icon lol

JHaste said:
There will not be an H or H+ icon... its 4g... hspa is too many letters for the general public to deal with...
Also, Phoenix does not have 4g yet however I am getting the 4g signal when i am on UMTS.. YOU DONT FOOL ME TMOBILE! I am pretty sure there is not even a 3g icon on our phones, anyone wanna get into the files and look? I am on campus and cannot check this but I think it would be funny if they did not even install a 3g icon lol
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What are you smoking Phoenix and Tucson are HSPA+ areas.
I know because I go to Phoenix pretty often and my G2 got hspa+
Edit: Here's proof http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/#marquee-see-4g-coverage

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JHaste said:
There will not be an H or H+ icon... its 4g... hspa is too many letters for the general public to deal with...
Also, Phoenix does not have 4g yet however I am getting the 4g signal when i am on UMTS.. YOU DONT FOOL ME TMOBILE! I am pretty sure there is not even a 3g icon on our phones, anyone wanna get into the files and look? I am on campus and cannot check this but I think it would be funny if they did not even install a 3g icon lol
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I'm getting "4G" on my phone here in Tempe (though I understand that isn't technically Phoenix but...) Just curious. Since you are in the same vicinity as I am... What are your average connection speeds? I'm about to a run test for mine as I type this...

Evofusion said:
What are you smoking Phoenix and Tucson are HSPA+ areas.
I know because I go to Phoenix pretty often and my G2 got hspa+
Edit: Here's proof http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/#marquee-see-4g-coverage
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explain to me why i am only getting UMTS then? I am freaking sitting on campus right now...

cuz asu is gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

No 3g?

Hey guys I was noticing my G2x only ever says 4g or 2g, never 3g. Why is that? It would definitely be nice to switch from 3g to 4g instead of to 2g.
Am I missing something about how t-mobile's 4g is an expanded 3g?
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So they can call it 4g
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I've been wondering this since day one, someone let us know!
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Im guessing the 4g icon is just that, an icon. I dont have 4g in Lakeland yet, but everywhere I had 3g, the 4g icon is on there. and places I had edge, it says 2g. Just my $0.02

smitty24 said:
Im guessing the 4g icon is just that, an icon. I dont have 4g in Lakeland yet, but everywhere I had 3g, the 4g icon is on there. and places I had edge, it says 2g. Just my $0.02
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Oh ok. Well whatever, it's fast enough
EDIT: Ok not really we have only 3g here too, since last year-ish. I remember having my G1 and being like YES! FINALLY
DrowsyMalice said:
I've been wondering this since day one, someone let us know!
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YES Please
mr.orange303 said:
So they can call it 4g
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hahah

prince.siraj said:
Oh ok. Well whatever, it's fast enough
YES Please
hahah
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it is as he stated above... tmobile just "dropped" the 3G icon (or LG did it)
so if your area is only 3G at the moment like mine is it will display 4G but that is not accurate.... im calling tmobile about this and will ask more... plus i wanna know when my area will be getting 4G (prolly never)

I just came from Verizon. U have to laugh when I see 4g on my phone. Much slower than my Verizon's 3g. Phone is awesome though. Worth the move.
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Has anyone tried going to Setting > Wireless and Networks > Mobile Networks and changing the network mode to try and get a 3G symbol to show up? I'd try it myself but I get no signal in the house I'm in at the moment (Wi-Fi calling FTW!).

I forced my network to used WCDMA and my icon says 4g. But I checked in About Phone Status and it says I'm on hspa not hspa+. So it appears 4g means maybe 3 or 4g.
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For the life of me I can't get this phone to connect to hspa. My vibrant right next to me can but all I get is umts on the g2x. Hate having a phone that is "4g" but slower than my "3g" phone. I've reset it and tried everything I can think of.
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Does anyone else lose 4g a lot?

I've tried WCDMA Preferred and GSM Auto (PRL) but I am constantly losing 4G switching back and forth in areas I have never had a problem.

Download the app called 'Network' in the Android market and set it to WCDMA only.

That isn't a solution but why wouldn't I just set it in the testing mode? Why download another app?

I lose 4g often too....and I go down to 2g....what happened to 3g? My old prepaid Cricket phone had a consistent 3g signal all over Tucson, while the 4g is really fast, it isn't reliable, and almost (almost) makes me wanna go back on cricket.

this radio is garbage.
my g2 was piss poor with 4g and this one is even worse.
I can watch it sit on the table and go from full bars of 4g to 2 bars of 2g/edge and STAY there.

sorry for the uninformed question, but is this something that can be fixed in a new rom, or mod?

I added data tweaks to my roms. I don't have any issues.
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Undeadk9 said:
I added data tweaks to my roms. I don't have any issues.
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Mind sharing?

It's not the radio. It's more likely the 4G signal in your area. I am in Atlanta and I have full bar 4G almost everywhere I go. At home it will drop down to 2G but I have wifi there.
As for 3G, this is a 4G radio. We're you joking about the 3G expectations?
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_atlien_ said:
It's not the radio. It's more likely the 4G signal in your area. I am in Atlanta and I have full bar 4G almost everywhere I go. At home it will drop down to 2G but I have wifi there.
As for 3G, this is a 4G radio. We're you joking about the 3G expectations?
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Point #1 - You are incorrect. I am saturated with T-Mos "fake" 4G coverage and have never had a phone drop it like this one does.
Point #2 - What are you asking the other posted about 3G expectations. This phone doesn't have a 4G radio. T-Mo doesn't have 4G. They have 3G that they market as 4G.

hah2110 said:
Point #1 - You are incorrect. I am saturated with T-Mos "fake" 4G coverage and have never had a phone drop it like this one does.
Point #2 - What are you asking the other posted about 3G expectations. This phone doesn't have a 4G radio. T-Mo doesn't have 4G. They have 3G that they market as 4G.
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Everyone has "fake" 4G coverage. LTE isn't technically classified as "4G" either, the specification calls for rates of at least 100/mbps. T-Mobile currently has faster and more widespread pre-4G coverage than any other carrier, and the phone does have a pre-4G radio. The phone does support HSDPA at rates up to 21Mbps, and does is in fact have a pre-4G radio. And as far as my other comment not being a solution, have you tried it before bashing it? I've had plenty of luck with that solution personally and I figured it would be kind of me to share, but I suppose I stand corrected.

Undeadk9 said:
I added data tweaks to my roms. I don't have any issues.
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Yes. Thanks to your roms, I have signal in places I never had before (like the bathroom at work. I can now surf while doing my "business" and important "paper work" in my "office", ya know.?
while i poop.

What are data tweaks?

I have noticed like the iPhone 4 that if you touch that metal peice on the back around the camera the signal drops. I got a case that covers that up and that fixed all my 4g signal problems. My phone stays on 4g most of the time where I am. The T-Mobile network where I live works very well though.
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hah2110 said:
Mind sharing?
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Sure I will share, go to the MT4GS Android Development and try my Doubleshot v1.2.0, or try my Senseless v2.1.0. Both are stable.
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I added a flashable zip in the dev section to CURE this issue. Hit my thanks button.
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If you are on the tmobile network, you can't get 3g anymore if your phone is a 4g phone. It's either 4g or 2g.
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have all HSDPA towers been upgraded to HSDPA+?
Or does the phone just recognize all HSDPA as '4G'?

Climbguy said:
have all HSDPA towers been upgraded to HSDPA+?
Or does the phone just recognize all HSDPA as '4G'?
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It recognizes all HSDPA as '4G', I have full signal in certain areas with a '4G' icon but get speeds around 1Mbps and when I check the actual signal with third-party apps it is registered as HSDPA.

i think u guys got bad apples cause i always get 4g an my friend wit the same phone has 4g all the time

Are our captivated getting 4g speeds (not Lte)

So I am on cm7 and it says h in the too corned and sometimes 3g. On stock it only says 3g. Does that mean on certain roms you get 4g speeds and on others you don't?
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gregnetz18 said:
So I am on cm7 and it says h in the too corned and sometimes 3g. On stock it only says 3g. Does that mean on certain roms you get 4g speeds and on others you don't?
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No. The captivate won't ever be able to use 4g. The hspa network is pretty much the same as 3G.

Technicaly the 4g speeds are that hspa thing I thought. Isn't Lte something different?
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gregnetz18 said:
Technicaly the 4g speeds are that hspa thing I thought. Isn't Lte something different?
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No. They are different. Imagine that hspa+ is faster than 3G but not 4g so it's more like 3.5g. It is faster than regular 3G but your phone still doesn't have the hardware for the 4g network.
Read about the networks here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Access

gregnetz18 said:
So I am on cm7 and it says h in the too corned and sometimes 3g. On stock it only says 3g. Does that mean on certain roms you get 4g speeds and on others you don't?
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capocaccia said:
No. The captivate won't ever be able to use 4g. The hspa network is pretty much the same as 3G.
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gregnetz18 said:
Technicaly the 4g speeds are that hspa thing I thought. Isn't Lte something different?
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AT&T is calling their 4G, 4G, but technically there is NOTHING running 4G. For AT&T, 3G is capable of HSDPA(Download). 4G is the addition of HSUPA(Upload).
For our Captivates, specifically custom ROM's. Captivate based ROM's do NOT have HSUPA. i9000 based ROM's DO have HSUPA.
To answer your question, CM7 is a i9000 ROM and is running "4G"
And yes, LTE is something completely different

thanks kang for not making me say all that.

Thanks to both of you for clearing things up haha. I really appreciate it.
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The AT&T roms don't make any distinction between HSDPA (which shows as "H" on CM7) and UMTS (which shows as "3G"). So on an AT&T ROM you will only see "3G". Both are 3G as far as AT&T is concerned.

The new "official" Gingerbread leaks for the Captivate all say H+ in the corner instead of 3G as well... But the speed is the same.

I think only KI1 shows that. The ones released after it show regular3G.

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I think only KI1 shows that. The ones released after it show regular3G.
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That's not true. The new leaks still say H+

I don't care for at&t's false advertising there fake 4g. On my HTC Inspire, the stock Rom will only say H+, E, and i think I've seen G. No 3g . Its say H+ regardless. Even If your on a 3g signal.
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studacris said:
That's not true. The new leaks still say H+
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Rule 51-Sometimes I am wrong (I said "I think").
Been wanting that H+ symbol just to mess with the iPhanatics.

Lol I just made an icon that says 10G just a simple image in systemUI.apk

It doesn't take much to freak out the IP crowd n

[Q] I installed CM10 on my T-mobile Blaze and lost 4G capability! Please help!

I rooted my T-mobile galaxy blaze 4g and installed ICS 2.3.6. A short time later I upgraded to CM10.0.0. It was there that I noticed that I lost my 4G capability. I only have 2G/3G service now. Where did it go and how can I get it back? Please help!

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I rooted my T-mobile galaxy blaze 4g and installed ICS 2.3.6. A short time later I upgraded to CM10.0.0. It was there that I noticed that I lost my 4G capability. I only have 2G/3G service now. Where did it go and how can I get it back? Please help!
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Go into settings/wireless/more/mobile networks/network mode and check mark the one with lte. This should solve your problem

Did that but still showing 2G/3G and an H+ for my network connectivity. Could it be because T Mobile does not recognize this particular ROM yet and therefore has not authorized it to carry 4g? Kind of at a loss as what to do anybody with other suggestions please.
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H+ is 4g
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OK cool. I hate to belabor this topic but it why is the 4g intermittent and 3g and 2g seem to be default? It only goes into H+ intermittently it's in very few circumstances. Primarily remains in 3g and menu allows me to go down to 2g. I'm pretty new, I've done a lot of reading, I'm just trying to understand. Thank you for all your help.
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LthrSword said:
OK cool. I hate to belabor this topic but it why is the 4g intermittent and 3g and 2g seem to be default? It only goes into H+ intermittently it's in very few circumstances. Primarily remains in 3g and menu allows me to go down to 2g. I'm pretty new, I've done a lot of reading, I'm just trying to understand. Thank you for all your help.
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Its just as frequent as your last ics , the difference is 4g from T-Mobile never leaves the screen but you were still alternating 3g/4g just the same. Another thing is T-Mobile has less 4g towers than say sprint or atnt sooo really nothings changed. Enjoy !!!

TMO ROMs show 4G full time to avoid panic.
TMO calls HSPA14 and up "4G".
H+ is HSPA+21 and higher.
Phone automatically ramps down to H or "3G" when data connection is more or less idle. Under use, it'll ramp up to H+. Potential battery saving...
Nothing has changed compared with before, except the dummy icon.