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Stuck on hsdpa (not H+) Noob help.

Ok I've rooted my phone via one click method. I have the rcmix hd 3.4 rotate Rom with leeroids 2.2.4 kernel. So far I love it except ever since I changed from factory default Rom I have no H+ or what I'm under the impression of it being 4G. Instead I'm stuck just a regular H with data arrows underneath. Any ideas for a noob?
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aper3caper said:
Don't quote me here, but I'm pretty sure the afr001 and afr002 ROMs don't have an H+ icon since they are the European Desire HD ROMs. So you may be getting 4G HSPA+, but it doesn't have an icon for it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11505323&postcount=2
I'd bet that is what is happening.

That ROM may only show an H. I know with the one AR ROM i was using it would actually switch between "E", "3G" and "H+" depending on what i was using.

Thanx I think this is very possibly as it seems I have moderately fast connection when off WiFi. Is there possibly an app or a reference to see if the signal strength or speed of connection equates to that of 4G?
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live2drill said:
Thanx I think this is very possibly as it seems I have moderately fast connection when off WiFi. Is there possibly an app or a reference to see if the signal strength or speed of connection equates to that of 4G?
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Speed Test app

Just run a speed test with the app and you'll know right away what's going on.

Where do you live?
The stock AT&T setup shows an H+ icon even when in hsdpa... to let customers think they are getting 4g. Your rom is probably correct in showing you an H for hsdpa, because AT&T only has 4g service in like 6 cities nation wide. So unless you live in one of those cities you're not getting 4g anyway.

wyllie666 said:
The stock AT&T setup shows an H+ icon even when in hsdpa... to let customers think they are getting 4g.
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Wrong! The phone is using the H+ frequency, now if the backhauling has been done yet is the question.
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jbizz said:
Wrong! The phone is using the H+ frequency, now if the backhauling has been done yet is the question.
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There is no "H+" Frequency, 2G, 3G, HSPA+, they all use either 850 or 1900. He's right, they have enabled the "+" to show up all the time, even if you aren't getting an HSPA+ connection. It's very deceiving and AT&T is in some hot water right now over their false advertising, google it to see.

How fast is your speed test? Post pics!

Just wanting to show off yesterday's speed tests after reflashing a million times finally happy! Also wanting to see what kind of speeds everyone else is getting!
Huntington, WV at night - less network traffic
Cognition - with 2nd APN and 112 setting in prop rest is defaults
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maxjivi05 said:
Just wanting to show off yesterday's speed tests after reflashing a million times finally happy! Also wanting to see what kind of speeds everyone else is getting!
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Hey, if you're happy with your speeds, then that's all that matters. lol
I used to get better speeds. Not sure what happened.

So you're happy with 2G speeds?

shawn1224 said:
So you're happy with 2G speeds?
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Me? nope... I used to get 6mbps down and 2mbps up
I think they are working on the towers here in my area.

I did notice the speeds are not 100% all the time, they jump from 2 - 6 Mbps depending on time of day / weather / and everything else but knowing the phone "can hit 6" makes me feel better about "when AT&T" gets everything going it *should* be pretty fast

kirk123 said:
Me? nope... I used to get 6mbps down and 2mbps up
I think they are working on the towers here in my area.
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LOL I read your post wrong. I guess you're happy with the rom you settled on.

My speeds have always been all over the place
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shawn1224 said:
LOL I read your post wrong. I guess you're happy with the rom you settled on.
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Yeah starting to like Inspired Saga. Very smooth and fast.

here is mine from LA
RCMix591 + 26.08.03.07m radio

Stock radio, stock RIL. build.prop set at 14-7-3.
Customized RCMix596.
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id10terrordfw said:
Stock radio, stock RIL. build.prop set at 14-7-3.
Customized RCMix596.
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Lucky you. Awesome ping times too!

Be nice if I could get these results all the time...

I'm havin the same issues as Kirk, my speeds went to feces.

AT&T HTC Inspired on Inspired Saga v1.1 (4/25) rom
Download: 5204kbps
Upload: 1295kbps
Ping: 95ms
Wont let me link to photo :-(

Tx Redneck said:
I'm havin the same issues as Kirk, my speeds went to feces.
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Are you in S.I. N.Y.?
Edit: I'm guessing by your user name, you're from Texas?
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We don't have backhaul up and running yet in Cincinnati, but these were the fastest speeds that I've pulled on a speed test. I'm usually in the 2500kbps down/1500kbps up range.
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Well it appears that at&t is finally doing something right in my area. Ping is around 120ms.

Here's one in an unmolested CM7 N82 or 83 install, can't remember which.
No apn changes, no build.prop changes. Just the radio from the ota update w/out the ril since it tends to hose wifi and GPS for me.

An oldie but a goodie.
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id10terrordfw said:
An oldie but a goodie.
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Yeah keep rubbing it in LOL. Are you still able to get those speeds?

RADIO/SPEED TEST COMPARISONS! AT&T/SIMPLE/TMOBILE! I Get 4.3MB HA HA!

I have a HTC Inspire, HSPA unlocked with CM7.2, Set to WCDMA Only..
MY HTC INSPIRE:
Speed test: AT&T (4.3 or mb, highest i have got to date.) Simple Mobile (Speed
Test = 2-3mb depends on reception!)
CM 7.2 rom
Radio- 26.06.04.06_M, Always full bars and H
*Note*
Dial *#*#4636#*#* on the dailer.
Select Phone Information.
Scroll down to "Set Preferred Network Type".
Select WCDMA Only. and hit home and reboot,
helps lock to all new wcdma/4g towers and away from the old ones.
Orlando, FL
*if ur phones not rooted go here, should help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061258

Nice Nice! I was using the Stock ROM with the new updates and sideloading and I was getting close to 6mbps dl. Here in Sacramento California.

just put in a simple card, hiting upwards of 3mb, not eheh

Dude I'm running cm7 and I'm hitting 4-6down and constant 1.3 upload.
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d4redevil said:
*Note*
Dial *#*#4636#*#* on the dailer.
Select Phone Information.
Scroll down to "Set Preferred Network Type".
Select WCDMA Only. and hit home and reboot,
helps lock to all new wcdma/4g towers and away from the old ones.
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There is no need to be telling people this. The "WCDMA Preferred" setting will automatically lock onto WCDMA towers if they are in your area, and still allow your phone to connect to other network types. If you configure your phone to "WCDMA Only" and you travel outside of a WCDMA area, guess what happens to your connection? These are called MOBILE phones for a reason, and people do travel with them.

Yep, no need for this. Check out my sig pic.

I win.

id10terrordfw said:
I win.
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Have you seen the speeds for the new Droid charge? We all lose, lol If it werent for my disgust with Samsung I would be all over it.
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lrs421 said:
Have you seen the speeds for the new Droid charge? We all lose, lol If it werent for my disgust with Samsung I would be all over it.
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Not yet, but I have for the Thunderbolt when I set my friend's up. Good lord. I can't wait for LTE on AT&T. Imagine not having to fall back on CDMA's 1-2mbit, and being able to go from 15mbit on LTE to 8-10 on HSPA+. That will be, as the Russians say, Epic Win.

How do y'all get such a low ping?
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Should I root before i get this update? Or after?

my area with android revolution I got 6mbps without ure radio
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id10terrordfw said:
I win.
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Bastard! Are you in a "4g" area?

Damn all I get is 3500 the most....but I have been getting that from when I got this phone so does that mean I dont have 4g?
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Androidude said:
Bastard! Are you in a "4g" area?
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Considering the speeds, yup. Sure am.
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New RUU Rom with HSUPA update in Houston
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So do I need yo do the update from Att cuz I live right next to NYC and I'm sure they would have it there
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tried this, it only made my upload speed go down.

I'm 100% stock. Got the update and I **** you not I hit 8590 Dayton,OH
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Does anyone else lose 4g a lot?

I've tried WCDMA Preferred and GSM Auto (PRL) but I am constantly losing 4G switching back and forth in areas I have never had a problem.

Download the app called 'Network' in the Android market and set it to WCDMA only.

That isn't a solution but why wouldn't I just set it in the testing mode? Why download another app?

I lose 4g often too....and I go down to 2g....what happened to 3g? My old prepaid Cricket phone had a consistent 3g signal all over Tucson, while the 4g is really fast, it isn't reliable, and almost (almost) makes me wanna go back on cricket.

this radio is garbage.
my g2 was piss poor with 4g and this one is even worse.
I can watch it sit on the table and go from full bars of 4g to 2 bars of 2g/edge and STAY there.

sorry for the uninformed question, but is this something that can be fixed in a new rom, or mod?

I added data tweaks to my roms. I don't have any issues.
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Undeadk9 said:
I added data tweaks to my roms. I don't have any issues.
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Mind sharing?

It's not the radio. It's more likely the 4G signal in your area. I am in Atlanta and I have full bar 4G almost everywhere I go. At home it will drop down to 2G but I have wifi there.
As for 3G, this is a 4G radio. We're you joking about the 3G expectations?
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_atlien_ said:
It's not the radio. It's more likely the 4G signal in your area. I am in Atlanta and I have full bar 4G almost everywhere I go. At home it will drop down to 2G but I have wifi there.
As for 3G, this is a 4G radio. We're you joking about the 3G expectations?
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Point #1 - You are incorrect. I am saturated with T-Mos "fake" 4G coverage and have never had a phone drop it like this one does.
Point #2 - What are you asking the other posted about 3G expectations. This phone doesn't have a 4G radio. T-Mo doesn't have 4G. They have 3G that they market as 4G.

hah2110 said:
Point #1 - You are incorrect. I am saturated with T-Mos "fake" 4G coverage and have never had a phone drop it like this one does.
Point #2 - What are you asking the other posted about 3G expectations. This phone doesn't have a 4G radio. T-Mo doesn't have 4G. They have 3G that they market as 4G.
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Everyone has "fake" 4G coverage. LTE isn't technically classified as "4G" either, the specification calls for rates of at least 100/mbps. T-Mobile currently has faster and more widespread pre-4G coverage than any other carrier, and the phone does have a pre-4G radio. The phone does support HSDPA at rates up to 21Mbps, and does is in fact have a pre-4G radio. And as far as my other comment not being a solution, have you tried it before bashing it? I've had plenty of luck with that solution personally and I figured it would be kind of me to share, but I suppose I stand corrected.

Undeadk9 said:
I added data tweaks to my roms. I don't have any issues.
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Yes. Thanks to your roms, I have signal in places I never had before (like the bathroom at work. I can now surf while doing my "business" and important "paper work" in my "office", ya know.?
while i poop.

What are data tweaks?

I have noticed like the iPhone 4 that if you touch that metal peice on the back around the camera the signal drops. I got a case that covers that up and that fixed all my 4g signal problems. My phone stays on 4g most of the time where I am. The T-Mobile network where I live works very well though.
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hah2110 said:
Mind sharing?
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Sure I will share, go to the MT4GS Android Development and try my Doubleshot v1.2.0, or try my Senseless v2.1.0. Both are stable.
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I added a flashable zip in the dev section to CURE this issue. Hit my thanks button.
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If you are on the tmobile network, you can't get 3g anymore if your phone is a 4g phone. It's either 4g or 2g.
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have all HSDPA towers been upgraded to HSDPA+?
Or does the phone just recognize all HSDPA as '4G'?

Climbguy said:
have all HSDPA towers been upgraded to HSDPA+?
Or does the phone just recognize all HSDPA as '4G'?
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It recognizes all HSDPA as '4G', I have full signal in certain areas with a '4G' icon but get speeds around 1Mbps and when I check the actual signal with third-party apps it is registered as HSDPA.

i think u guys got bad apples cause i always get 4g an my friend wit the same phone has 4g all the time

Are our captivated getting 4g speeds (not Lte)

So I am on cm7 and it says h in the too corned and sometimes 3g. On stock it only says 3g. Does that mean on certain roms you get 4g speeds and on others you don't?
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gregnetz18 said:
So I am on cm7 and it says h in the too corned and sometimes 3g. On stock it only says 3g. Does that mean on certain roms you get 4g speeds and on others you don't?
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No. The captivate won't ever be able to use 4g. The hspa network is pretty much the same as 3G.

Technicaly the 4g speeds are that hspa thing I thought. Isn't Lte something different?
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gregnetz18 said:
Technicaly the 4g speeds are that hspa thing I thought. Isn't Lte something different?
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No. They are different. Imagine that hspa+ is faster than 3G but not 4g so it's more like 3.5g. It is faster than regular 3G but your phone still doesn't have the hardware for the 4g network.
Read about the networks here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Access

gregnetz18 said:
So I am on cm7 and it says h in the too corned and sometimes 3g. On stock it only says 3g. Does that mean on certain roms you get 4g speeds and on others you don't?
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capocaccia said:
No. The captivate won't ever be able to use 4g. The hspa network is pretty much the same as 3G.
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gregnetz18 said:
Technicaly the 4g speeds are that hspa thing I thought. Isn't Lte something different?
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AT&T is calling their 4G, 4G, but technically there is NOTHING running 4G. For AT&T, 3G is capable of HSDPA(Download). 4G is the addition of HSUPA(Upload).
For our Captivates, specifically custom ROM's. Captivate based ROM's do NOT have HSUPA. i9000 based ROM's DO have HSUPA.
To answer your question, CM7 is a i9000 ROM and is running "4G"
And yes, LTE is something completely different

thanks kang for not making me say all that.

Thanks to both of you for clearing things up haha. I really appreciate it.
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The AT&T roms don't make any distinction between HSDPA (which shows as "H" on CM7) and UMTS (which shows as "3G"). So on an AT&T ROM you will only see "3G". Both are 3G as far as AT&T is concerned.

The new "official" Gingerbread leaks for the Captivate all say H+ in the corner instead of 3G as well... But the speed is the same.

I think only KI1 shows that. The ones released after it show regular3G.

mrhaley30705 said:
I think only KI1 shows that. The ones released after it show regular3G.
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That's not true. The new leaks still say H+

I don't care for at&t's false advertising there fake 4g. On my HTC Inspire, the stock Rom will only say H+, E, and i think I've seen G. No 3g . Its say H+ regardless. Even If your on a 3g signal.
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studacris said:
That's not true. The new leaks still say H+
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Rule 51-Sometimes I am wrong (I said "I think").
Been wanting that H+ symbol just to mess with the iPhanatics.

Lol I just made an icon that says 10G just a simple image in systemUI.apk

It doesn't take much to freak out the IP crowd n