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Stuck on hsdpa (not H+) Noob help.

Ok I've rooted my phone via one click method. I have the rcmix hd 3.4 rotate Rom with leeroids 2.2.4 kernel. So far I love it except ever since I changed from factory default Rom I have no H+ or what I'm under the impression of it being 4G. Instead I'm stuck just a regular H with data arrows underneath. Any ideas for a noob?
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aper3caper said:
Don't quote me here, but I'm pretty sure the afr001 and afr002 ROMs don't have an H+ icon since they are the European Desire HD ROMs. So you may be getting 4G HSPA+, but it doesn't have an icon for it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11505323&postcount=2
I'd bet that is what is happening.

That ROM may only show an H. I know with the one AR ROM i was using it would actually switch between "E", "3G" and "H+" depending on what i was using.

Thanx I think this is very possibly as it seems I have moderately fast connection when off WiFi. Is there possibly an app or a reference to see if the signal strength or speed of connection equates to that of 4G?
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live2drill said:
Thanx I think this is very possibly as it seems I have moderately fast connection when off WiFi. Is there possibly an app or a reference to see if the signal strength or speed of connection equates to that of 4G?
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Speed Test app

Just run a speed test with the app and you'll know right away what's going on.

Where do you live?
The stock AT&T setup shows an H+ icon even when in hsdpa... to let customers think they are getting 4g. Your rom is probably correct in showing you an H for hsdpa, because AT&T only has 4g service in like 6 cities nation wide. So unless you live in one of those cities you're not getting 4g anyway.

wyllie666 said:
The stock AT&T setup shows an H+ icon even when in hsdpa... to let customers think they are getting 4g.
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Wrong! The phone is using the H+ frequency, now if the backhauling has been done yet is the question.
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jbizz said:
Wrong! The phone is using the H+ frequency, now if the backhauling has been done yet is the question.
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There is no "H+" Frequency, 2G, 3G, HSPA+, they all use either 850 or 1900. He's right, they have enabled the "+" to show up all the time, even if you aren't getting an HSPA+ connection. It's very deceiving and AT&T is in some hot water right now over their false advertising, google it to see.

Understanding AT&T 4G...

Time to teach an old dog some new tricks. Being an AT&T customer for over 10 years it should come as no surprise that I'm an absolulte stranger to 4G . I have few questions though and hope someone can steer a little 4G knowledge my way.
1) When 4G hits will we need to be on a stock rom and radio?
2) For those of you already in HSPA areas (lucky bastards) what kind of speeds are you experiencing.
Thanks in advance

I think when 4g hits all we will need is a new sim card but I could be wrong

ATT runs hspa+ as "4g", which will go to 21Mbps, then 42Mbps. Then ATT will roll out LTE as real 4g soon too, which will be a whole new network, new frequencies, and need new phone hardware antennas and radio. LTE speeds can go very high, talking about 100Mbps eventually.

pavaccar said:
I think when 4g hits all we will need is a new sim card but I could be wrong
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I think the sim card stuff is hokey. I'm more worried about custom Roms and radios. Like will we be able to run CM7 when 4G drops.
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lrs421 said:
I think the sim card stuff is hokey. I'm more worried about custom Roms and radios. Like will we be able to run CM7 when 4G drops.
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Yep we will need a lte phone and 4g sim. HSPA + will work fine on different roms. Dallas has it and ive gotten speeds over 6 dl. Stock radio and custom rom.
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klquicksall said:
Yep we will need a lte phone and 4g sim. HSPA + will work fine on different roms. Dallas has it and ive gotten speeds over 6 dl. Stock radio and custom rom.
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That's the feedback I was after. 6mb, nice!
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Well ATT's current hspa will be able to go up to 42Mbps when they turn it on. Look at current t-mobile speeds, its the same technology and they run 21Mbps with users seeing 9Mbps in select areas, and higher. So same applies to ATT.

I am in southern california, supposed "4G" coverage area; only get between
500k to 1.5mb/s. Stock rom and rooted, same result. Att blows.

divinewisdom said:
I am in southern california, supposed "4G" coverage area; only get between
500k to 1.5mb/s. Stock rom and rooted, same result. Att blows.
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That sucks. I feel your pain.
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divinewisdom said:
I am in southern california, supposed "4G" coverage area; only get between
500k to 1.5mb/s. Stock rom and rooted, same result. Att blows.
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Did you edit your build.prop to enable higher data speeds?

kirk123 said:
Did you edit your build.prop to enable higher data speeds?
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thats my next step. I am using TPC optimized stock rom, which should have some build prop edit to it already, but will try to tweak it some more and see the reaults. I doubt I will see anything over 3mbs....

What's your build prop settings
klquicksall said:
Yep we will need a lte phone and 4g sim. HSPA + will work fine on different roms. Dallas has it and ive gotten speeds over 6 dl. Stock radio and custom rom.
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Chicago here, I get 6 down and 1.5 up on non-peak data times. I don't think the sim card is a non-issue considering that hspa+ is just an evolved 3g technology. I can't wait for a more consistent speed, even though I use wifi most of the time. I am using cognition hd right now and still getting these speeds.
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divinewisdom said:
thats my next step. I am using TPC optimized stock rom, which should have some build prop edit to it already, but will try to tweak it some more and see the reaults. I doubt I will see anything over 3mbs....
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Here in socal I see 3 Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up.

Always on edge at my house.

Why am I always on edge when my captivate had 3G?
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Are you rooted?

No totally stock.
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Welcome to the death star. We haven't had good reception since the rebels blew it up.

Always on edge at my house.
Have a few beers...

Call at&t and complain to them. They might send you a free microcell.
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Root and change the radio to a newer version for an extra 10 db or so. If not able then use wifi.

-Kevlar- said:
Why am I always on edge when my captivate had 3G?
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Have you tried changing the setting to wcdma only? I was working in downtown Boston and my phone would lose signal all the time and after I changed it to wcdma it seemed to hold the signal better
Setting>wireless> mobile network?

hkwong said:
Have you tried changing the setting to wcdma only? I was working in downtown Boston and my phone would lose signal all the time and after I changed it to wcdma it seemed to hold the signal better
Setting>wireless> mobile network?
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I've tried that but it won't stay.
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How fast is your speed test? Post pics!

Just wanting to show off yesterday's speed tests after reflashing a million times finally happy! Also wanting to see what kind of speeds everyone else is getting!
Huntington, WV at night - less network traffic
Cognition - with 2nd APN and 112 setting in prop rest is defaults
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maxjivi05 said:
Just wanting to show off yesterday's speed tests after reflashing a million times finally happy! Also wanting to see what kind of speeds everyone else is getting!
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Hey, if you're happy with your speeds, then that's all that matters. lol
I used to get better speeds. Not sure what happened.

So you're happy with 2G speeds?

shawn1224 said:
So you're happy with 2G speeds?
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Me? nope... I used to get 6mbps down and 2mbps up
I think they are working on the towers here in my area.

I did notice the speeds are not 100% all the time, they jump from 2 - 6 Mbps depending on time of day / weather / and everything else but knowing the phone "can hit 6" makes me feel better about "when AT&T" gets everything going it *should* be pretty fast

kirk123 said:
Me? nope... I used to get 6mbps down and 2mbps up
I think they are working on the towers here in my area.
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LOL I read your post wrong. I guess you're happy with the rom you settled on.

My speeds have always been all over the place
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shawn1224 said:
LOL I read your post wrong. I guess you're happy with the rom you settled on.
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Yeah starting to like Inspired Saga. Very smooth and fast.

here is mine from LA
RCMix591 + 26.08.03.07m radio

Stock radio, stock RIL. build.prop set at 14-7-3.
Customized RCMix596.
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id10terrordfw said:
Stock radio, stock RIL. build.prop set at 14-7-3.
Customized RCMix596.
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Lucky you. Awesome ping times too!

Be nice if I could get these results all the time...

I'm havin the same issues as Kirk, my speeds went to feces.

AT&T HTC Inspired on Inspired Saga v1.1 (4/25) rom
Download: 5204kbps
Upload: 1295kbps
Ping: 95ms
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Tx Redneck said:
I'm havin the same issues as Kirk, my speeds went to feces.
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Are you in S.I. N.Y.?
Edit: I'm guessing by your user name, you're from Texas?
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We don't have backhaul up and running yet in Cincinnati, but these were the fastest speeds that I've pulled on a speed test. I'm usually in the 2500kbps down/1500kbps up range.
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Well it appears that at&t is finally doing something right in my area. Ping is around 120ms.

Here's one in an unmolested CM7 N82 or 83 install, can't remember which.
No apn changes, no build.prop changes. Just the radio from the ota update w/out the ril since it tends to hose wifi and GPS for me.

An oldie but a goodie.
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id10terrordfw said:
An oldie but a goodie.
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Yeah keep rubbing it in LOL. Are you still able to get those speeds?

[Q] Network upgraded to 4G but I only get H

hey there I/'m living in St. Kitts in the Caribbean.
LIME the network provider upgraded from EDGE to 4g on Friday, but I realise since then my phone is only showing H (3G) and not H+(4G).
i am wondering if this has anything to do with the rom i'm currently running (trickdroid) or not?
I was in the city centre friday night where they had the launch and pretty close to the cell tower so I know distance isn't the issue
Thanks for the help in advance

Most roms don't display the +. Its purely cosmetic. Only roms I know that display it are based on the inspire 3.20 version.
Again its purely cosmetic and does not effect speed. Heck the phone is only capable of 14mbs Max. I would say 3.5 g Max

Thanks for the response I was just wondering. Makes sense with what you are saying. And I just realise something I tried another Rom, it wasn't even loading so had to restor this on and realised that while booting up it went from E to 3G to H. But I don't think I'm getting even 2 mb from this will take a screen shot and post to you.thx again for the response.
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Attached is speed test I just ran. The last two take a look please . My upload more than double my download. Real ridiculous
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positiveg said:
Attached is speed test I just ran. The last two take a look please . My upload more than double my download. Real ridiculous
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Depending on what ROM you're using, I've found Speedtest to be somewhat unreliable for whatever reason. For example, I'm running Sabsa Prime 7.0. When I do a test on wifi, I get 15+mbps down and around 4mbps up with 30 ping. When I run it on 4g, I get 7kbps down and 2mbps up with 150 ping. Obviously my actual 4g speeds are not 7kbps. On ARHD with the same radio the test showed 6-8mbps down and 3.5mbps up with 70 ping.
In summary, unless you feel that your real use speed is really that slow, forget what Speedtest says.

Ok cool got you.
But I can tell it's really slow as well. I will try one of those other rims cause this one iy takes a while to switch to programs etc. And I don't have a lot running in the background. The only thing I've realise though is that I've not yet learned how to bring over my settings ( WiFi and apn etc even my contacts ) when going from one Rom.to the the next.
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Moved to Q & A.
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Actually...
If you edit your build.prop, faster speeds can be obtained.
Also H+ is 4G, but its not like LTE speeds or anywhere close. It is more like a couple mbs above 3G.
Speedtest is fine. Your data icon will sometimes lie to you. No joke. It'll say H+, but in reality it is 3G. All depends on your signal strength.
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Thanks, how do I edit my build?
I am not sure what's going on it is.very slow and I am wondering if the Rom is the problem wondering if I should go back to the original 4g Rom that came with the phone
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positiveg said:
Thanks, how do I edit my build?
I am not sure what's going on it is.very slow and I am wondering if the Rom is the problem wondering if I should go back to the original 4g Rom that came with the phone
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You'll need an app like "Root Explorer". Through the app you navigate to "/system" and long press the "build.prop" and edit. You may encounter an error message with something like "file is in read-only" which then you will have to change the settings to "write only" or something like that to edit which can be done in the explorer app. Once you get that far you can edit the build.prop to your liking. For settings that people have found useful search the forums.

positiveg said:
The only thing I've realise though is that I've not yet learned how to bring over my settings ( WiFi and apn etc even my contacts ) when going from one Rom.to the the next.
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If you're syncing to Google, your wifi passwords, contacts, even wallpaper will automatically restore when logging back into Google after switching ROMs.

Thanks I realise the apps came back bit not sure the WiFi passwords did. I'm really trying to find a Rom for Inspire 4g that
Has the correct weather location showing at least thanks
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Well personally I just use sence analog clock widget on mine one of them found my little nowhere town so maybe one of the virsions will work for you too
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