Epic to Thunderbolt anticipation... - Thunderbolt General

I'm getting ready to switch from Epic to Thunderbolt. But concerned about smaller 1400mah battery and graphical rendering over AMOLED....
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I'm getting ready to switch from Epic to Thunderbolt. But concerned about smaller 1400mah battery and graphical rendering over AMOLED....
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Well, then lucky for you that it doesn't have an AMOLED!

Guys going from the Epic to the thunderbolt isnt really a step up.....if you take away the 4G it might be a step down in hardware specs.
Epic is faster, better screen, better GPU (all better but not much better)

I beg to differ with that crappy touchwiz!

well touchwiz is a preference like is sense ui........ but i had the fascinate myself and hated it.....but im a sense ui guy......got the atrix and the blur sux to. lol

Actually ive seen a test of the GALAXY S vs HTC DESIRE HD...... test went back and forth but remember the DESIRE HD was running 2.2 Froyo.....Galaxy S was running 2.1. Also Android runs better on SNAPDRAGON....JIT Compiler has probs on hummingbird processor.

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Guys going from the Epic to the thunderbolt isnt really a step up.....if you take away the 4G it might be a step down in hardware specs.
Epic is faster, better screen, better GPU (all better but not much better)
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I've seen epic versus Thunderbolt benchmarks, epic has the edge on gpu, but mathematics crunching is faster on Thunderbolt. Then you have the bolts small capacity battery...
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The only thing the epic is going to win in is graphics rendering, I had the displeasure of owning one. The bolt will blow it away on overall speed and the samoled screens have the pentile matrix screens so the thunderbolt will have a clearer screen, the LCD is a better screen anyway, look at the retina IPS screen, guess what, it's a LCD. Overall the thunderbolt will be far more user friendly and launch could be delayed due to them putting GB on. The galaxy s line was the biggest waist of potential out there. By far, it's GPU is capable of rendering almost as good graphics as ps3 and better than xbox 1 or ps2. You all shall see, everyone who gets the bolt will love it, especially if u are in a LTE are, where speeds will be as fast or faster than wifi

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MT4G vs. Nexus S Benchmarks

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4059/nexus-s-and-android-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays/8
I've always tought that the hummingbird would humiliate the snapdragon with some optimisations. But it even performs worse than a sgs (running AOSP/CM)
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You have to put into account that 4G uses MySense and loads of bloated ware where the Nexus S use AOSP pure Google experience. Hell load MT4G with AOSP or CM on it, it'll blow the nexus s away.
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You have to put into account that 4G uses MySense and loads of bloated ware where the Nexus S use ASOP pure Google experience. Hell load MT4G with ASOP or CM on it, it'll blow the nexus s away.
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That and it's cheaper to boot. $449 vs $529
I think if mytouch 4G would run CM or some vanilla Froyo w/ OC, It blow away Nexus
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You have to put into account that 4G uses MySense and loads of bloated ware where the Nexus S use ASOP pure Google experience. Hell load MT4G with ASOP or CM on it, it'll blow the nexus s away.
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The MT4G already blows the Nexus S away. The benchmarks are a fairly good indicator of that.
Yeah, make sure you are reading those benchmarks right, the MT4G kills it.
I think the mt4g is faster no need for benchmarks I notice it on everyday use considering I've had the vibrant and the ns is just a rebadged galaxy s.
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Heck, I just think it's cool to own a device that performs so well compared to other high end devices. After owning a G1 for over a year, having the MT4G is a treat!
These benchmarks make my mouth water... Now ****ing xmas needs to be here so I can have my mt4g (that or the wife needs to develop a heart, I should pack up her G2 & tell her she can use our old MDA until Xmas)
The bench marks only show how incomprable the two processors are. And how unreliable benchmarks are. Dont trust neocore. The phones are so fast they cap out the built in fps limits of the phones. Interesting how the losing phone in neocore get 10 fps more running quake. Thats almost 25% more. Also interesting that quadrant cpu is right on par but linpack is still low. I have no idea why qualcom chips do so well in linpack. They obviously have a distinct advantage there. Yet hummingbirds some how do as well on froyo roms in quadrant.
I/0 scores vary wildly with galaxy s phones. Rfs always give a very low score. But there have been "lag fixes" that blow the score out of proportion well beyond anything else in quadrant. CM although buggy gets huge scores all over cept for linpack. A CM dev said the low I/O was something samsung did. It may be that the nexus s has the same problem.
Im not putting the mt4g down. Not at all. Just the benchmarks. I think the galaxy phones still have the best gpu. But if I could get a mt4g unlocked or a nexus s it would be a hard decision. ( im on ATT)
Im partial to samsung after doing repairs to my captivate and an evo. I felt that the htc was built like a toy. But as far as user experience hatch wins every time.
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The bench marks only show how incomprable the two processors are. And how unreliable benchmarks are. Dont trust neocore. The phones are so fast they cap out the built in fps limits of the phones. Interesting how the losing phone in neocore get 10 fps more running quake. Thats almost 25% more. Also interesting that quadrant cpu is right on par but linpack is still low. I have no idea why qualcom chips do so well in linpack. They obviously have a distinct advantage there. Yet hummingbirds some how do as well on froyo roms in quadrant.
I/0 scores vary wildly with galaxy s phones. Rfs always give a very low score. But there have been "lag fixes" that blow the score out of proportion well beyond anything else in quadrant. CM although buggy gets huge scores all over cept for linpack. A CM dev said the low I/O was something samsung did. It may be that the nexus s has the same problem.
Im not putting the mt4g down. Not at all. Just the benchmarks. I think the galaxy phones still have the best gpu. But if I could get a mt4g unlocked or a nexus s it would be a hard decision. ( im on ATT)
Im partial to samsung after doing repairs to my captivate and an evo. I felt that the htc was built like a toy. But as far as user experience hatch wins every time.
So you're saying those guys over at AnandTech one of the most trusted reliable source don't know what they're doing,LOL. Even while they're doing a reviews about Nexus S they were amaze at MT4G. Talk about HTC Phone bieng Like a toy,look at the Vibrant for 500.00 buck it's a joke with that kind of money i expect not to be lagging and GPS works out of the box,and don't tell me there's a fix online it's easy to fix.Like one of my MT4G user said it real well, Nexus S is just a rebadged of the
plastic Vibrant Galaxy S with gingerbread 2.3 LMAO!!!!!!!!!
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blah blah blah double post...
I want to see those mt4g benchmarks with gingerbread. I do agree that benchmarks should be taken with a grain of salt, but it's always nice to come out on top
Yes and they should just be glad they did not have a OC kernel with a trimmed ROM or that nexus S would have been smacked and knocked back to kindergarten.
I have been confused at why the MT4G has not challenged or even been compared to the Nexus S??? All this waiting and hype about the Nexus S and finally it comes out and (IMHO) is a disappointment. Now reading what everyone is *****ing about, No HSPA+, expandable memory, ram and not made by HTC.... Well MT4G has all those!!! Minus the SAMOLED, I think the MT4G is THE better phone. Now with some numbers to look at...Its looking sweeet! Best part is, "The 45nm Snapdragons with Adreno 205 GPUs have proven completely competent performers (and I'm not even finished testing the myTouch 4G yet)"!!!!!! Can someone please put these two in the octagon!!
This sums it all up
I got the MT4G but also want the Nexus S just because I know it will have more developer support than the MT4G , I dont care about benchmarks just user experience, lets see the people reactions when they get it
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After exchanging my original MT4G for one with a "superior" display, this phone is most certainly a force to be reckoned with. Yes, the SAMOLED display is great, but highly overrated. I remember doing a side-by-side comparison of my old Vibrant with a G2, only to find that the G2's display more than held its own next to the Vibrant. Even with its washed out display, my original MT4G outclassed the Vibrant in every aspect - the new one, with it's better display, is not even in the same league.
Since it's been established that the Nexus S is basically an aesthetically revised Galaxy S, it's safe to say that the MT4G vs. Nexus S comparisons will yield the same results as MT4G vs. Vibrant. Say what you want about benchmarks, but numbers don't usually lie (unless, of course, you're Bernie Madoff).
That's my reason for getting the nexus s too. Its the rom support and user experience. I've had this phone since almost the day it came out. Its got every feature you could want, but though it looks and feels expensive, htc has major qc issues. I've yet to see one without a blown out white screen either. If they had blessed the phone with a better display, changed the plastic below the screen a little, and made it with asop, the mt4g would be the best phone ever made.
Battery life is excellent, it's fast, and has all the latest hard ware. Just upsets me that with all the specs this thing has, they give it such a poor display. I mean you look at that every time you pick up the phone, and espresso sense themes expose that even more with all the greys and off blacks.
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Switch to Atrix???

Ok. I have had the inspire since it came out and I think its a huge upgrade from the captivate. My question is, for another $50 should I go to the Atrix?
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For another 50? It will cost me 100 more plus the 35.00 restoring fee. And I'm buying one today to compare to my inspire. I love the inspire but the atrix also looks nice so going to see which one I keep. The inspire screen looks much bigger than the 4.0 on the atrix, I have to see if it will make a difference web browsing n watching movies.
I'm keeping both for a while. Absolutely love the inspire, but those specs on the atrix are just too irresistible.
Yeah with an available upgrade you can get an atrix for $149 from radioshack. I went from a cappy to a surround to a focus (wp7 needs alot of work) to an inspire. I love it but the screen has some touch issues and it has locked up on me a few times. So I am a little concerned about that. Plus dual core is hard for a nerd like me to ignore.
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Plus dual core is hard for a nerd like me to ignore.
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Ditto lol......
I know dual core, but will the Atrix be LTE compatible?
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I loved the atrix at first. Then I tried my inspire. For me at least Android without htc sense just feels like something is missing. I came from a nexus one to nexus s to iPhone 4 and now to my inspire. The atrix seems like As close as you'll get to a pure Google experience on at&t at least. I'm tempted to check one out only because of the awesome screen and hdmi out. But thats bot enough to make me switch from my sense to motoblur. That's the deal breaker for me... if only the inspire had a fingerprint reader
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That is a very good point about LTE. It may be a monster of a phone but there is definitely no LTE support that I have read about. From my understanding AT&T will be putting out LTE phones this year but not for a while.
Also good to know about motoblur. I am a huge, HUGE, fan of Sense. I came from samsung's horrible touchwiz so sense has completely restored my faith in android. I have read several reviews that were not to keen on motoblur and I don't want to get caught up in constant rom flashing like I was with the captivate. Seems like everyday i was flashing a new rom and that just got old.
Either way, I will never go back to the iPhone. Not unless they make major improvements to their OS. But thats for another thread.
unless I am mistaking the Inspire doesn't have LTE support either, right?
Inspire might not be LTE compatible either, but It's half the price and had a bigger screen.
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That is a very good point about LTE. It may be a monster of a phone but there is definitely no LTE support that I have read about. From my understanding AT&T will be putting out LTE phones this year but not for a while.
Also good to know about motoblur. I am a huge, HUGE, fan of Sense. I came from samsung's horrible touchwiz so sense has completely restored my faith in android. I have read several reviews that were not to keen on motoblur and I don't want to get caught up in constant rom flashing like I was with the captivate. Seems like everyday i was flashing a new rom and that just got old.
Either way, I will never go back to the iPhone. Not unless they make major improvements to their OS. But thats for another thread.
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Yeah, I loathe motoblur. I just got the atrix and I hate it as much as everyone else that I've read. The first thing I'm doing is loading on ADW Ex....
And sense is amazing. It should be the standard on android.
Just came from an AT&T store to handle the Atrix and the 1st impression was WOW, small screen, maybe because there's hardly any bezel it makes the screen seem dwarfish. When I placed it alongside the Inspire it was noticeably smaller. I honestly don't know if I can downgrade in screen size.
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Just came from an AT&T store to handle the Atrix and the 1st impression was WOW, small screen, maybe because there's hardly any bezel it makes the screen seem dwarfish. When I placed it alongside the Inspire it was noticeably smaller. I honestly don't know if I can downgrade in screen size.
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I noticed this too.....what a difference from the inspire.....hard to believe the difference is only .3 inches
I just checked the Atrix at my friendly ATT shop, and I'm not sold to exchange my inspire for the Atrix. Colors seem better on the inspire, but the whites look whiter on the Atrix. Quadrant and nenamark1 were amazingly faster on the Atrix. I also checked the laptop dock and I was not impress by it. I check YouTube @ 1080p and it couldn't handle it. Even 720p was jittery. What do you guys think?
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I too was less then impressed with Atrix so I'll stick with Inspire at least for now. Hopefully Infuse will drop soon.
nevermind ....
CM7 will never make it to the atrix and development will be restricted to the same kernel released by moto. So hell no.
I went to the ATT store with the intent of trading my inspire for an Atrix. I played with it for a few minutes and decided it wouldn't be an upgrade for me. I mainly use my phone for texting, email and twitter. Dual core can't improve that experience very much. Maybe I'd see it a different way if I played lots of games on my phone but I don't.
They even let me play with the laptop dock, which further cemented my decision. It really can't compete with even the cheapest of netbooks out today. Too slow, especially on pages with flash.
I also just like the massive solid metal feel over the plastic of the Atrix.
If you guys are looking for speed, our CPU overclocked to 1.6 feels much faster than the atrix. I'm well satisfied with my purchase.
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If you guys are looking for speed, our CPU overclocked to 1.6 feels much faster than the atrix. I'm well satisfied with my purchase.
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how is the battery on the overclocked ROM?

[Q] HTC sensation or Galaxy s 2??

I don't know which to get I am tore in between both o the phones. Spec wise the galaxy s 2 wins but HTC sense is far better than touchwiz the only thing would suit me will be sense on the galclaxy s 2 but I have heard that it mite hard to port :-\
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I dont think TW 4.0 is bad. Its far far more better than crappy 3.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4d-wWCf4CQ&feature=feedu
Spec wise the Galaxy S2 lose.
The new snapdragon looks like more powerfull than tegra 2 / exynos, they give you a screen with more resolution and not using pentile, real rgb not 50% more of amoled plus that is less than real stripe.
a little less ram, but who uses 1gb of ram in a phone?
The only things for what I am going to buy the Galaxy S2, is because in 10 years, HTC has not make a decent camera on a phone and a decent audio quality in par with the iphone or the first galaxy, and this are for me totally killer features. Oh, and the internal phone storage.
In the battle HTC sense vs touchwiz, who cares, at the end most of the people turn off that programs and ends using adw or launcher pro.
It's a tough one. Up until HTC Sensation was announced, I was settled on SGS II. But now I'm in a dilemma.
However, SGS II has a better screen - lower resolution, but using SAMOLED+ instead of SLCD (and the difference is notable). SGS II also has a better front camera, more internal memory (a LOT more, 16 GB vs 1 GB), larger battery capacity, and it's thinner.
HTC on the other hand has a better camera, higher screen resolution, dual-led flash, and it's also on T-Mobile. It also comes with a 8 GB microSD card.
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Spec wise the Galaxy S2 lose.
The new snapdragon looks like more powerfull than tegra 2 / exynos, they give you a screen with more resolution and not using pentile, real rgb not 50% more of amoled plus that is less than real stripe.
a little less ram, but who uses 1gb of ram in a phone?
The only things for what I am going to buy the Galaxy S2, is because in 10 years, HTC has not make a decent camera on a phone and a decent audio quality in par with the iphone or the first galaxy, and this are for me totally killer features. Oh, and the internal phone storage.
In the battle HTC sense vs touchwiz, who cares, at the end most of the people turn off that programs and ends using adw or launcher pro.
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You nailed it for me. While I'm not really familiar with processors, the EVO 4G has a terrible camera and sound quality. Now I'm considering waiting for a sprint galaxy s2 instead of upgrading to the EVO 3D. I know that both phones will be good, but having the better quality photos and video will make me happy.
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Spec wise the Galaxy S2 lose.
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Apart from the higher resolution offered on Sensation, i can't see how SGSII loses in terms of spec. Initial benchmarks show Exynos perform much better than the new Snapdragon (which is based on the older A8 cortex) but i guess we juz have to wait till May when comparison can be done on retail units instead of those prototypes.
Can't agree more about the camera on HTC phones though. and thats why i'm getting rid of my Desire soon=)
I would have liked to get the Sensation, but I am in an AT&T contract.
Even if I decided to kill the contract and move to T-Mobile, I would be kinda screwed when AT&T acquires TMobile and then the Sensation will not be able to use 3G on AT&T since it does not support the bands.
So between the two I am pretty much forced to get the GS2, or wait and hope the a Sensation build will eventually support AT&T bands, which I will not do...
GS2 looks good enough, but TouchWiz looks awful
edit: ok maybe TW isn't so bad
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HTC on the other hand has a better camera
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I'm not so sure about that part. HTC has never been known to release phones with great cameras. Average at best, but not great. E.g desire hd, Mozart, HD2, desire, HD7. They're all average in their leagues.
Samsung on the other hand does release phones with great camera quality. E.g. Wave, Omnia HD, Pixon 12.
However since they haven't released the phone or shown any sample pictures, guess it's too early to judge.
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I'm not so sure about that part. HTC has never been known to release phones with great cameras. Average at best, but not great. E.g desire hd, Mozart, HD2, desire, HD7. They're all average in their leagues.
Samsung on the other hand does release phones with great camera quality. E.g. Wave, Omnia HD, Pixon 12.
However since they haven't released the phone or shown any sample pictures, guess it's too early to judge.
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Thought it was a joke when he said HTC has a better camera..
You are probably right about being early to judge Sensation but we're almost certain SGSII is coming with an awesome camera which is confirmed in most previews.
HTC the better camera? Perhaps a #sarcasm tag was needed before that.
In terms of whether the CPU/GPU is better, remains to be seen, there are benchmarks which show each one outperforming the other. Furthermore remains to be seen whether there is any difference in use, even if one is better than the other by a reasonable margin.
For me, I don't like the crappy cameras of HTC and their habbit of crippling great phones with underppwered batteries...I love my HD2 but I cannot forgive HTC for putting a 1230 mAh battery which barely manages to last through a working day!
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I rather go for a gs2 and root it
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Especially now that there is some evidence of the Bootloader being untouched just like the SGS I
Where's that evidence? Link?
If you just view the thread "Boot Load Lock and alternate ROMs", there is a discussion going on about this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12934988&postcount=76
Yesss I was right
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well if we had a port of sense on s2 that would be amazing
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well if we had a port of sense on s2 that would be amazing
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As good as Sense looks it will be very difficult to port Sense over I guess! Certian aspects of sense are great such as the dialler, peoples app and the keyboard is nice as well.
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well if we had a port of sense on s2 that would be amazing
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I already asked it in the sense thread, but why do people think sense 3.0 is so much better than TouschWiz 4.0?
/me thinks sense 3.0 looks like it is designed by Disney.......
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For me, I don't like the crappy cameras of HTC and their habbit of crippling great phones with underppwered batteries...I love my HD2 but I cannot forgive HTC for putting a 1230 mAh battery which barely manages to last through a working day!
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Also the poor speakers! My DHD is terrible difficult to hear in noisy conditions for voice calls! Hopefully they can improve on that aspect...

HTC Sensation is better than SGS2

HTC chip-set of 1.2 dual core and andreno 220 is far more better that SGS2's 1.2 dual core and 2008's Mali-400 chip-set. I used both the handsets and now using HTC Sensation after SGS2.
The main problem with HTC is it's locked boot-loader and it's stock rom which is really not ready to use the full power.. The power is not equally distributed. Benchmark is not everything as sensation has issues with sense 3.0 and better pixels than the SGS2. Below is some link where you can understand the whole technical issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-adreno-220-gpu/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169376
The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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I prefer the sensation to sgs2 regardless of benchmarks or performence, mostly because of sense and nicer aesthetics
But I do have one concern, if you got to system/lib/egl, all the libs say adreno 200, could that be affecting performance?
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Actually the OP is right about the adreno 220 being better than the mali 400. The difference is the way samsung optimized the performance of their GPU with drivers and such. But for what the GPU can do spec wise, adreno 220 is superior. Too bad htc did not do a good job of showcasing that.
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The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.
I trialed one on ATT...and: No its not...(unfortunately)
I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.
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Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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It will not be August/September for the Sensation. Yes it will be unlocked but that is when the custom rom process begins. It will be weeks to months later before you get any stable releases of everything.
The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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Exactly, I buy whatever phone I like and right now I use a Sensation and a G2X. I think the Sensation is better than the G2X but I think the GSII is better than the Sensation and I'm not affraid to admit that just because I own the Sensation. If people think the Sensation is better than the GSII then they think the Sensation is the best Android phone available right now since almost every review I've read labels the GSII the best Android device to date. In fact, 9 out of 10 reviews state the GSII took Android to the next level but I haven't read any review stating the Sensation took it to the next level. Maybe if HTC would have released it with optimized drivers we would see reviews stating such.
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I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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My Sensation gets extremely hot when playing Homerun Battle 3D and my G2X gets no where near as hot when playing the same game. In fact, after playing for 30 minutes it gets so hot that sometimes my screen becomes unresponsive to touch but the accelerometer still works. I think its definitely a driver issue but something shouldn't be getting so hot that it renders the phone useless.
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anarchyuk said:
I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer
That site is funny.
"These benchmark tests shows that Tegra 2 takes the lead over Exynos in almost every category. Specially, this is especially true for mobile gaming."
Looks like everything is better than Exynos.
But you are wrong, sensation is weak.
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Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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Sounds to me your phone is syncing in the background
Hey people!! This reminds to me, old times with the HTC HD2 ( quetly brillant )
jajajaja yea yea... just quietly brillant... with the optimized drivers!
I have to laugh at all these banchmarks between the two...they aren't exactly valid.
The Sensation has a higher res screen that is has to push...which obviously means it has more work to do....it's not a fair comparison.
And in any case...benchmarks mean nothing to me...I chose to buy the Sensation because it looks so much better than the GS2, it has a better interface in Sense 3, and it's HTC
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Sounds to me your phone is syncing in the background
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My device syncs nothing but gmail. I have everything off including the HTC weather. I wouldn't even call my Gmail syncing since I'm using the Gmail app which uses push.
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Hoggles said:
I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer
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My Sensation doesn't get hot near the battery. It gets hot at the very bottom where all of the internals are.
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Need some opinions.

My Upgrade is coming up soon. I don't care much for data transfer, but I want a phone that's responsive. I play games, watch movies, listen to music, use the gps and enjoy smoothness when scrolling through the menu's. Which phone is good for me the Galaxy S II or the skyrocket? Please let me know your thoughts.
If lte data transfer is not a concern. The definatrly the sgs2 much better cpu and gpu. Better responsiveness. No question what so ever its not an oppinion its a fact. I have owned both im keeping the skyrocket because i like the bigger screen and lte but my sgs2 was significantly faster
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If lte data transfer is not a concern. The definatrly the sgs2 much better cpu and gpu. Better responsiveness. No question what so ever its not an oppinion its a fact. I have owned both im keeping the skyrocket because i like the bigger screen and lte but my sgs2 was significantly faster
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Well, benchmarks in a variety of sites show that these two phones are very close in performance, so close indeed that the users are unlikely to notice much of a difference. There are two reasons to move to a Skyrocket: the larger screen and the NFC support (although not much is using it at this time).
Benchmarks Mean nothing .....its a number
I have the vivid,SGS II, and the skyrocket. GsII is best ,then the vivid then skyrocket.
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Oh and the og gsII has NFC too
And if you watch movies on the sky rocket there are lines in the screen
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If lte data transfer is not a concern. The definatrly the sgs2 much better cpu and gpu. Better responsiveness. No question what so ever its not an oppinion its a fact. I have owned both im keeping the skyrocket because i like the bigger screen and lte but my sgs2 was significantly faster
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Watching netflix and slingbox there are none of these lines people speak of. Couldn't be happier with skyrocket screen. It's just like people getting caught up in benchmark scores. They are convinced the screen just isn't good.
It's sad. And misleading to people who come here for advice.
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Not talking about bench marks. Did not even run them on my skyrocket. the sgs2 is significantly faster hands on with apps and opening multiple t.abs when web browsing. Its all around faster ive owned and used both devices extensively. And if you dont care about lte the sgs2 is hands down a better device. I like my skyrocket i like the lte and biger screen and i will be keeping it even though it is not as snappy and has some lag
I have all three, if you wanna throw out I'm misleading go buy all three test all three for a day or two each then tell me the skyrocket is better.....
I stated my observation and its based off of fact not fan boy baloney
Boooooong
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Gs2 for you no question.
Skyrocket: slower/laggy, screen issues/lines...all the things you here in this thread and others on this topic.
I hag the gs2 before switct to the skyrocket. Although I like the bigger screen and lte I miss the gs2

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