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So now that we have a test build to work with, does it take advantage of the dual core processer or do we have to wait for ice cream sandwich, I feel like we are a little ahead of our time now that all these high end android phones are coming out, now if we could only improve battery life without buying an extended battery, or disabling all the features that make this a smartphone, nevertheless I'm running xboarders rooted version of the gingerbread test build released yesterday, I finally have GPS, haven't had any problems at all , this might just keep me from going to the iPhone.
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My understanding was true dual core support was only implemented in HC, so we'll need to wait for Ice Cream.
muti core has been supported from day 1 in Android
I had heard from a fellow xda user that the reason for.crappy battery life was due to not being able to shut off one of our cores when the phone is idle.
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Why would they make the phone dual core if it A) couldn't use both cores and B) the second core sucked battery while it sat there doing nothing? It's like some dystopian scenario where people just over-engineer because they can and think it's good but can't utilize the technology they've created and it ends up destroying them. "Let's make an eight-core phone with six cameras and can time travel! It will only work for seven minutes, but it'll be the first of it's kind and we'll sell millions! What could possibly go wrong?"
Interesting topic..
Well what I'm getting at is I thought having a dual core phone was supposed to be better on battery life, bc both cores split the workload, that's really what I want battery life as good as the iPhones.
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Hey guys just trying to decide on a phone I was wondering if the infuse is the phone for me any advice? Do you guys like it? If you could get a different one what would you get? Thanks
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Honestly, at this point wait for the SGSII. The phone come out at the end of the month.
I couldn't be much happier with my Infuse. It's a great phone. However, the SGSII will be coming out soon, so you have a tricky decision to make.
The advantages the Infuse has are a 4.5" screen as opposed to the 4.3" screen on the SGSII. Also, you can walk into a store tomorrow and get it.
The advantages of the SGSII are it's dual core processor, and the fact that it will likely have an insanely huge development community.
Both phones have a 1.2 GHz processor, but the dual core in the SGSII will definitely give it an edge. However, I don't have any lag on my infuse whatsoever, so that is kind of negligible to me.
Also, even though the development community for the Infuse will be smaller in the long run, it isn't bad by any means.
It's really a win-win with either choice in my eyes, as right now I would choose my Infuse over anything on the market right now.
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I couldn't be much happier with my Infuse. It's a great phone. However, the SGSII will be coming out soon, so you have a tricky decision to make.
The advantages the Infuse has are a 4.5" screen as opposed to the 4.3" screen on the SGSII. Also, you can walk into a store tomorrow and get it.
The advantages of the SGSII are it's dual core processor, and the fact that it will likely have an insanely huge development community.
Both phones have a 1.2 GHz processor, but the dual core in the SGSII will definitely give it an edge. However, I don't have any lag on my infuse whatsoever, so that is kind of negligible to me.
Also, even though the development community for the Infuse will be smaller in the long run, it isn't bad by any means.
It's really a win-win with either choice in my eyes, as right now I would choose my Infuse over anything on the market right now.
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I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
Is more hype then fact?
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I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
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A easier way to make money with a wow factor.
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Best phone I have ever owned. I love it. Fast, great battery life, and the screen is just simply amazing.
The dev section here sucks, g2g and the rest of the dev's for this phone work hard and create some great stuff but there are far too many arrogant and whiney users constantly putting down their work and crying like little girls because they don't understand how to follow directions or realize that roms are a work in progress. Soon the SII will come out and most of them will leave and this section will get a lot more sane and the SII section is going to go to hell.
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I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
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dual core always makes a difference, it just doesnt make a 100% difference. there are times it might eliminate all lag making it seem like a world of difference, other times it can make zero difference. the big advantage is when background services are running or on a pc when you have multiple windows open and running different applications. but now pc applications are multi-threaded taking more advantage even when multi tasking is at a minimum.
also remember the dual core phones have faster ram and are arm cortex a9 processors not a8. there may be some new hardware level advancements that can be taken advantage of in the next android releases.
as far as graphics processing goes we have a good gpu and are comparable to a tegra in raw capabilities. though the benchmarks often give the tegra an advantage in speed i find the renderings to look better on the samsung. im not saying anything one way or another. the infuse can accomplish anything a dual core can as far as far as video playback and graphics but the dual core phones have there merit. look at youtube vids side by side of a sgs2 web browsing against other devices. it powers through flash a lot faster than anything else i have seen.
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dual core always makes a difference, it just doesnt make a 100% difference. there are times it might eliminate all lag making it seem like a world of difference, other times it can make zero difference. the big advantage is when background services are running or on a pc when you have multiple windows open and running different applications. but now pc applications are multi-threaded taking more advantage even when multi tasking is at a minimum.
also remember the dual core phones have faster ram and are arm cortex a9 processors not a8. there may be some new hardware level advancements that can be taken advantage of in the next android releases.
as far as graphics processing goes we have a good gpu and are comparable to a tegra in raw capabilities. though the benchmarks often give the tegra an advantage in speed i find the renderings to look better on the samsung. im not saying anything one way or another. the infuse can accomplish anything a dual core can as far as far as video playback and graphics but the dual core phones have there merit. look at youtube vids side by side of a sgs2 web browsing against other devices. it powers through flash a lot faster than anything else i have seen.
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I, like MrEdf (I'm Mr. Ed 2 lol) don't see much of a difference when using todays line up of applications when it comes to single vs dual...
the ram is supposed to be better but we have no devices utilizing that to test with right now...so it is just speculation.
take the dual core phones out now and run them through real world scenarios side by side with an overclocked android device be it hummingbird or snapdragon and look for a difference....granted the benchmark will be better on the dual core and it truly is more powerful, there isn't much developed to at this point that will utilize it.
what I hope to see is better multitasking. i get completely scattered going back and forth between apps and my phone gets all pissed off about it.
I've mentioned in a few other threads my plans...I'll test several devices (atrix is already out of the picture) like the lg thrill, the gs2 and my infuse, prolly throw our inspire into the tests just for fun... in the end I will use the one I like the most
I love this phone....right now. ask me again in a month lol
you tube
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assuming infuse on froyo whereas s2 on gingerbread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqo5Rmx3WtA
if difference is fraction of a second then i think one can live with it.
at the end of the day both are just phones and for more complicated work we have laptops and netbooks or tablets.
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assuming infuse on froyo whereas s2 on gingerbread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqo5Rmx3WtA
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He has some excellent comparison videos...
keep in mind that is the euro s2 as well..who knows what variation we end up with in the US
I love this phone, the devs are awesome and their product is top notch. I have yet to find a rom our kernel that I wouldn't run. Everything is good and its just a matter of preference and a few specific features. The community its great, aside from a few bad apples, but generally they are very helpful and informative.
I too was looking at the sgII but needed a new phone and picked up the infuse, I have no regrets, plus the scuttlebutt if that the attain (att version of sgII) will have a physical keyboard.
All in all, infuse is they best phone I've ever owned and can easily see it keeping me happy for a long time.
Infused with gingerbread **** thanks GTG465X
Agree with many people here. Wait for the SGSII. Don't get me wrong, the Infuse is a great phone, but unless the SGSII is over $200 on contract, I would just wait for it
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The SGSII is certainly the phone to beat, however be aware that it has a smaller battery than the Infuse and with the dual core processor it's battery life is not great. Also rumor has it that AT&T's version will have a slide-out keyboard (confirmed by a friend of mine who works at an AT&T store). If that's the case I would have no interest in the phone because the keyboard will make it thicker. In any case you can get an Infuse and have 30 days to try it out before needing to return it. Samsung is having their release event later this month so you'd still be inside the return window if they announce something your interested in. I find the 1.2Ghz processor in the Infuse to be outstanding and don't find any speed complaints, in fact I'd trade better battery life for single core versus dual core. And our Infuse has the largest Super AMOLED Plus screen.
I coming from htc g2 and all i got to say is that i am disappointed I though I was making a big jump changing to this phone but I was wrong.i was able to over clock my g2 to 1.8 ghz and have a very snappy phone with good battery life now with the g2x its the other way around I tried all the roms and theres always something or some kind of bug with them. Is there some thing special about tegra that I am missing out on!
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It sucks, you might as well leave now.
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Please do leave. Considering you have no concept of how a processor works. Our phone is DUAL CORE which means if we overclock to 1.55 (the highest we can go) it's basically 3 ghz and the g2 is 1.8 overclocked. This phone is actually 10x better than the g2 and is a worthy upgrade, but I don't think you're worthy...
You have Tegra 2 games advantage. Browser performance is probably little bit faster on G2X even though they both can probably only do 480p Adobe Flash at max.
It sucks, you might as well leave now.
I never said it sucked! All I am saying is if its one of the tegra phones why is is so buggy.
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Don't get me wrong and don't get mad I like the phone but there's something missing. You can't really tell the difference between this two I used to stream live TV on my g2 no problem and with the g2x it lags like crazy.
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You have Tegra 2 games advantage. Browser performance is probably little bit faster on G2X even though they both can probably only do 480p Adobe Flash at max.
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There is notqa huge selection of games that I can recall
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There is notqa huge selection of games that I can recall
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http://www.tegrazone.com/games
Now I'm planning on getting this phone and have heard some good things about its speed. I sold my MT4G not to long ago and I think any dual core phone if quicker than what I had, I doubt the G2X is so terrible on Ginger.
It would help if you told us the problems with ur phone so we can help to get it fixed.
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probably one of the best up to date phones that has vanilla android. cant stand sense that much
Well the G2 is a good solid phone. It's been out for much longer and is seasoned and tweaked to run well. I had a Nexus One and it worked pretty well.
One thing you have to realize is that Android doesn't even take advantage of dual cores yet, not until Ice Cream Sandwich. ICS also will bring (supposedly) whole UI graphic acceleration (like Win7 and iOS) for smooth transitions and fancy effects.
So while what you say is true, (My G2 was just as fast as the G2x), you are speaking in terms of NOW. But the G2x has some power under its hood. If Android can unlock the GPU for its UI, we'll definitely have the fastest phone out there.
As far as Streaming TV and video, that sounds like an app issue. You came from a second generation Snapdragon which was widely supported to a Tegra 2 which is new and fresh. Different apps run differently on different chipsets. If you use a Video player that properly utilizes the Tegra's, you'll have smooth playback. Bandwidth also comes into play. I stream Netflix all the time and have no issues, just depends on where you are. Hotels usually throttle network utilization so everyone can grab a piece of the pie, especially voice, video and P2P traffic. I typically have no issue at hotels either and I travel a LOT.
Perhaps it would be beneficial to tell us your setup. Rom, kernel, apps, etc.
I run MIUI 1.9.23 and no special kernel (ATM) or use Faux's 4.2 SV Kernel at normal speeds. I don't OC or UV or anything fancy. MIUI still has its issues but overall works great and is a joy to use.
MIUI, CM7, or Weapon is the best choices IMO. Weapon works VERY well but I think its butt ugly coming from MIUI or CM7 themes (no offense!). CM7 and MIUI work great but will probably never be perfect (because they are always changing and adding stuff) where Weapon is going after a stock-like perfection.
Also lots of the issues of the custom roms regarding WiFi Calling and APN issues are thought to be caused by the SIM card or related. I ordered a SUPER OLD never used SIM card off ebay, the old style, and will do some testing to see if I get any better results. Cost me $5.50 total and if it works, it will be money well spent. Good luck Jim.
i love the phone i used to have a Garminfone and this is 100 times better
Can't wait for this phone to show it's true power with ICS.
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Can't wait for this phone to show it's true power with ICS.
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If the devs port ICS we will see it, LG won't be giving us anymore updates. G2X is dead to them.
Oh no doubt, my statement was based on the deb's porting it to all our devices. I know LG isn't gonna release any more updates or OTA cuz they suck. Without our devs our phones would never see ICS and therefore be obsolete long time ago.
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I know LG is probably not gonna have an icecream sandwich update for this phone but don't they have to update like legally? I could be wrong
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I know LG is probably not gonna have an icecream sandwich update for this phone but don't they have to update like legally? I could be wrong
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There is no legal binding about the update. Even the GB update was to fix the issues they had and save their brand-name.
I remember how Samsung made us waiting for more than 6 months for 2.2 update for Vibrant.
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Please do leave. Considering you have no concept of how a processor works. Our phone is DUAL CORE which means if we overclock to 1.55 (the highest we can go) it's basically 3 ghz and the g2 is 1.8 overclocked. This phone is actually 10x better than the g2 and is a worthy upgrade, but I don't think you're worthy...
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Please do leave, You sir have no concept of how a processor works. If you over clock to 1.55 Its clocked at 1.55, Its not 3ghz because you can add both together. It just does not work like that, Tasks that are made to run on one core don't become suddenly faster because of the extra core helping out, The extra core hardly helps out at all. The only reason why the tegra 2 is Snappy is because of the CPU architecture and the gpu that's bolted in. Benchmarks don't mean a thing if a Snapdragon MSM8255 can run toe to toe with the Tegra 2 in applications.
The G2x is an awesome phone. I think that you just have not found a ROM that suites your needs. My wife has a G2 and she is all the time saying that she wants to switch phones because hers is so slow. Hers is rooted and overclocked to 1.5Ghz. Like someone said before tell us your problems and let us help you get your phone working right for you. Trust me people on this forum site can get your phone working properly for you.
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i love the phone i used to have a Garminfone and this is 100 times better
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I am so happy for you.....seriouslyI work for Garmin (@Headquarters) and I wouldn't dare buy a Garminfone
Before the blaze I was using a infused. What device did you come from? Do you feel like it was a upgrade?
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Before the Blaze (which is my first Android phone) I had owned a BlackBerry Bold 9700. So far I'm really liking this device, the only thing I really miss is having a high level of notification customization, a notification LED, sms and email integrated in a single messaging app, and whole device/sd card encryption.
I don't miss the lack of memory or good 3rd party apps, and the plastic screen. Battery life on the Blaze is not as good as my BlackBerry, but it's more than enough to get me through at least a days worth of work.
Before this I was using an LG G2x, which was a joke. Prior to that it was a Samsung Galaxy S 4g.
I feel like this was a significant upgrade from both, it's a solid device imo.
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I am coming from the G2x as well. I think this phone is better, but I do miss CM7 and ICS lol. The screen on this phone is still a little wider, so I'm getting used to that.
I think this was a good upgrade, and that will be more evident after a few more months of development.
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T-Mobile G2. It was an okay phone, but it was really starting to show its age.
I'd say it was a definite worthy upgrade (aren't they all?), most applications do open instantly, if not just 1/4 of a second, and I love Samsung's touchwiz UI, its simple and neat. I always hear that people don't like it, but I can never figure out why.
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T-Mobile G2. It was an okay phone, but it was really starting to show its age.
I'd say it was a definite worthy upgrade (aren't they all?), most applications do open instantly, if not just 1/4 of a second, and I love Samsung's touchwiz UI, its simple and neat. I always hear that people don't like it, but I can never figure out why.
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Agreed, I hate stock GB. I do love stock ICS though. Hopefully we'll have it soon.
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I had Sensation 4G briefly, horrid battery life and 768MB of ram isn't enough for ICS. Before that I had an iPhone 4.
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T-Mobile G2. It was an okay phone, but it was really starting to show its age.
I'd say it was a definite worthy upgrade (aren't they all?), most applications do open instantly, if not just 1/4 of a second, and I love Samsung's touchwiz UI, its simple and neat. I always hear that people don't like it, but I can never figure out why.
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Its closed source and its deeply integrated into the OS not to mention with carrier IQ. It actually slows down the phone you'll see once you get an aosp rom on this phone
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Came from a Motorola Defy....this was most definitely an upgrade...though I prefer aosp touchwiz is a lot better than blur.
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I used Nexus S GT-I9020T.
Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G has faster processor, better gpu, and expandable micro SD card slot.
Adreno 220 GPU
Available in the Snapdragon S3 chipset, the Adreno 220 GPU features an enhanced level of 3D graphics performance, allowing for high-end, immersive gaming experiences previously limited to PCs and game consoles.
More than five times the graphics performance of the Adreno 200 GPU
Concurrent CPU, DSP, graphics, and MDP
Streaming textures that can combine video, camera, SVG and other image surfaces with 3D graphics
Supported APIs:
OpenGL ES 2.0
OpenGL ES 1.1
OpenVG 1.1
EGL 1.3
Direct3D Mobile
SVGT 1.2
Direct Draw
GDI
Concurrent CPU, DSP, graphics and MDP
Available on the Snapdragon S3 chipset, including:
MSM8060 with dual CPU up to 1.5 GHz
MSM8660 with dual CPU up to 1.5 GH (Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G uses this)
Source: https://developer.qualcomm.com/discover/chipsets-and-modems/adreno-gpu
LG Optimus T
Had CM7 2.3.7, and enough tweaks to get the quadrant to 1200 or so, it was 400 out of the box. 600 to 748mHz OC without a fuss was a HUGE plus, and it was good for a cheap phone, only my incessant messing around hard bricked it
For reference, i've soft bricked my blaze like 3 or 4 times (twice was trying to change lcd density)
Before that it was all flip/feature phone junk, one WM5 phone but it was terrible at everything.
I came from the first Mytouch 3g. Started w/ Cupcake, but went to Cyanogenmod right away. Cm and Ginger Yoshi kept that poor little phone usable for a really long time. I used it for over 2 1/2 years.
Now the low side of my SetCPU is set at about what was the max for that phone.
Got this phone 5 days ago. Came from At&t for better rates, but couldn't afford the Galaxy S 2 so got this phone instead.
Was running Task650 AOKP on my Galaxy S 2 and I loved it. Hopefully more development will come for this phone.
ATT Nexus One, I'd still be using it (even though ATT's network speeds literally went to hell about a year ago) even though my bill was more expensive even though I had a corporate partner discount but the touch screen stopped working.
I guess you could say the main two things I miss about my last phone would be the LED that was in the trackball, and the superior audio quality for music.
Wow, I've had so many...
LG-P999 (G2X which when tricked out was the bomb...its in the shop)
NexusOne
G1 (rest in peace you started it all love!!!)
HTC MAGIC
MyTouch 3G Slide
MyTouch 4G & Slide
Samsung GalaxyS 4G
Infuse
...few more lol - Android junkie....and addicted to phones...all rooted and unlocked...most custom Roms...getting wet for ICS on this little baby.
Theres a thread someone started on benchmarks - I ran a couple with 2 different programs and posted my screenshot reviews - I urge more in the community to do the same
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Ok guys,
I'm due an upgrade in August, but I don't know whether to pass out on it.
I currently have a Desire S. It's got quite old hardware, a single core chip. I'm a heavy user of my phone, so it has to do many things for me - web browsing, email, etc.
I can't afford a quad core highend phone. So I'm thinking of getting a One S. It's only dual core... But if I get it, it will have to last me at least 2 years. That's a big decision to make. I've only had my Desire S 11 months, and I already stayed feeling the need to upgrade.
I need a faster CPU to keep up with android demands, and a larger screen.
The thing is, if I get the One S, how outdated will it be?
From what I see, dual core has a huge advantage over single core.
But quad core not so much over dual core... (Or maybe android isn't making good use of it)
What's next for the move in smartphones? 8 cores seems unlikely... So what will be next? If nothing big comes along, will the One S and its dual core chip still be good enough to last me 2 years?
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I'd wait until HTC announces a new, better phone than the One series. Bit the Ones are great phones, you can't go wrong with them.
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I'd wait until HTC announces a new, better phone than the One series. Bit the Ones are great phones, you can't go wrong with them.
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Thanks, but what significant hardware improvements will HTC bring?
How will it differ greatly from the current range?
That leaves my other concern, is 10GB in the One S enough to last me 2 years? I've gotten by on a 8GB SD card on my Desire S...
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I would probably wait for a phone with 2GB or RAM such as the US version of the S3. Dual or quad core with 2gb or RAM should be good for at least 2 years.
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I would probably wait for a phone with 2GB or RAM such as the US version of the S3. Dual or quad core with 2gb or RAM should be good for at least 2 years.
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It's got quite old hardware, a single core chip. I'm a heavy user of my phone, so it has to do many things for me - web browsing, email, etc.
I can't afford a quad core highend phone. So I'm thinking of getting a One S. It's only dual core...
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I use Windows Phone 7.5 so I don't have to OBSESS about cores. I don't need 4 cores to check email whether I check email once a day or once a minute. Sorry I can't help.
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I use Windows Phone 7.5 so I don't have to OBSESS about cores. I don't need 4 cores to check email whether I check email once a day or once a minute. Sorry I can't help.
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Yeah, I see where u are coming from, but this isn't the case with android... It NEEDs the cores to have a smooth experience...
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So you are saying RAM is gonna make a huge difference?
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I think it will eventually. We are becoming more and more dependent on our phones. We want them to sync facebook, use GPS, listen to music and text at the same time. Once the software catches up to the hardware, there will only be more things to add to our multi tasking...more RAM is definitely the way to go.
Honestly, I'd say pick the one that has the best battery life, useability and moddability. Most of these smartphones nowadays are neck and neck imo. So you may as well get the one that you can customize the hell out of and will net you what you consider acceptable battery life.
If you want two cores you can probably score a deal on a Galaxy S II I saw "Fire-Sales" in London where they were going for £180 - £220. I recently picked up my Galaxy S I for £100 new in box. Also don't forget devices like the Optimus 2x or the Atrix 4G.
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Yeah, I see where u are coming from, but this isn't the case with android... It NEEDs the cores to have a smooth experience...
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I would very strongly disagree with that. I'm using my HD2 which has hardware about a year and a half older than the Desire S (basically an older generation CPU and GPU, approximately 200Mb less RAM, Windows Mobile as stock) and it runs ICS (CM9) very smoothly. It's been three years since it's release and it's still going strong. There is a potential One V Alpha build and I think Jelly Bean (or whatever the next iteration of Android will be called) is quite possible for the HD2. I think that the One S is a poor choice, because you might as well just get a Sensation which has essentially the same hardware as the One S and has the added benefits of being cheaper, having a bigger developer base (I think) and having a menu button (which is a lot more useful than you'd think, the onscreen one is very ugly ). Whether or not this will last you 2 years on official software I don't know, but I reckon it'll last a good couple of years. The only problem is if the devs move off of the Sensation and on to a new phone.
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I think it will eventually. We are becoming more and more dependent on our phones. We want them to sync facebook, use GPS, listen to music and text at the same time. Once the software catches up to the hardware, there will only be more things to add to our multi tasking...more RAM is definitely the way to go.
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Thanks mate. I read that the SGS3 struggles with RAM (1GB version) as the new skin is so heavy, that the launcher constantly withdraws etc.
Imaginovskiy said:
Honestly, I'd say pick the one that has the best battery life, useability and moddability. Most of these smartphones nowadays are neck and neck imo. So you may as well get the one that you can customize the hell out of and will net you what you consider acceptable battery life.
If you want two cores you can probably score a deal on a Galaxy S II I saw "Fire-Sales" in London where they were going for £180 - £220. I recently picked up my Galaxy S I for £100 new in box. Also don't forget devices like the Optimus 2x or the Atrix 4G.
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Thanks man! Fire-sales - can you be more direct please? Are these brand new from retail shops? I had my eye on the SGS2 aswell...
Where can I look around?
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olyloh6696 said:
Thanks mate. I read that the SGS3 struggles with RAM (1GB version) as the new skin is so heavy, that the launcher constantly withdraws etc.
Thanks man! Fire-sales - can you be more direct please? Are these brand new from retail shops? I had my eye on the SGS2 aswell...
Where can I look around?
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Oh when I wrote my post (you probably missed it on the previous page) I was making the assume that you wanted to go HTC only. If you are willing to go for an SGS2, that would definitely beat a Sensation IMO.
Nigeldg said:
I would very strongly disagree with that. I'm using my HD2 which has hardware about a year and a half older than the Desire S (basically an older generation CPU and GPU, approximately 200Mb less RAM, Windows Mobile as stock) and it runs ICS (CM9) very smoothly. It's been three years since it's release and it's still going strong. There is a potential One V Alpha build and I think Jelly Bean (or whatever the next iteration of Android will be called) is quite possible for the HD2. I think that the One S is a poor choice, because you might as well just get a Sensation which has essentially the same hardware as the One S and has the added benefits of being cheaper, having a bigger developer base (I think) and having a menu button (which is a lot more useful than you'd think, the onscreen one is very ugly ). Whether or not this will last you 2 years on official software I don't know, but I reckon it'll last a good couple of years. The only problem is if the devs move off of the Sensation and on to a new phone.
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Well, I don't use AOSP ROMs. I use full Sense ROMs, so the phone is slower, I use it heavily for web browsing, and gaming etc. I've noticed the browser is never as smooth as a dual core phone. I use my phone extensively, therefore, I like fluid performance, and for me android on a single core doesn't satisfy MY needs.
Also you are slightly off... The One S is far ahead of the Sensation. It uses a S4 chip compared to the S3 in the Sensation with a much newer CPU and GPU, it's much much more efficient, and currently the best dual core chip... That's why I wanted to choose that...
Dev support Is decent for the One S.
I'm open to all android manufacturers. (Actually. Only Samsung or HTC)
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The specs for all flagship phones are all very good now, maybe a little saturated. The important thing is the advancement in software. There is still no LibreOffice or full Adobe Photoshop or AutoCAD for Android. Fanboys will get mad reading this, but Android needs vast improvement in interface speed, look at Windows Phone running on single core devices and their boot time.
Phones will keep getting better because it will be the main 'PC' for everyone in the future (if not already now). People will carry it with them then dock it to do more productive tasks. Which is what Ubuntu is trying to do with Android.
For me personally, the Nexus still gives me the most freedom and most up to date Android version, so no reason to buy anything else yet.
The best example of hardware ahead of software is the next iPhone, no matter how high res or fast it is, its still an iPhone running on closed source iOS, so I won't buy it.
Is cutting edge hardware really that necessary? If you noticed, Google is the responsible for pushing the envelope and forcing more powerful hardware with less battery life and so. Remeber what happened to Honeycomb? Running slow and sluggish even on the platform it was specifically made for. Or wondering why the old Tegra cpu has some lag on ICS when the most recent S4 and Exynos quad core doesn't? Is there a reason for a dual core smartphone (HTC One S) to score higher than a quad core(HTC One X)? Our modern cutting edge phones are bigger, with objectionable battery life and can barely fit in our pockets.
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olyloh6696 said:
Well, I don't use AOSP ROMs. I use full Sense ROMs, so the phone is slower, I use it heavily for web browsing, and gaming etc. I've noticed the browser is never as smooth as a dual core phone. I use my phone extensively, therefore, I like fluid performance, and for me android on a single core doesn't satisfy MY needs.
Also you are slightly off... The One S is far ahead of the Sensation. It uses a S4 chip compared to the S3 in the Sensation with a much newer CPU and GPU, it's much much more efficient, and currently the best dual core chip... That's why I wanted to choose that...
Dev support Is decent for the One S.
I'm open to all android manufacturers. (Actually. Only Samsung or HTC)
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Yeah, I don't use Sense for the reason that I find it sluggish. I've used my Mum's desire S now and again purely to see how good Sense is and whether or not to flash it, and it's always just seemed too slow for me, and since your hardware is of a newer generation I doubt my phone would cope well. However, with CM9 it genuinely is fast and smooth. The best performance improvement I've noticed over CM7/GB is in the browser, where I find the smoothness and the zooming comparable with an SGS3.
The One S is far ahead of the Sensation, you're right (actually it scores higher quadrant scores than a Sensation as well I think) but the only problem I'd have with a One S is simply that I don't know whether or not it's necessary to pay extra when you can pick up a Sensation relatively cheaply. In day-to-day performance I don't know whether or not you'll notice it tbh.
Perhaps an SGS2 would be better then, or maybe as suggested above a GNex.
eksasol said:
The specs for all flagship phones are all very good now, maybe a little saturated. The important thing is the advancement in software. There is still no LibreOffice or full Adobe Photoshop or AutoCAD for Android. Fanboys will get mad reading this, but Android needs vast improvement in interface speed, look at Windows Phone running on single core devices and their boot time.
Phones will keep getting better because it will be the main 'PC' for everyone in the future (if not already now). People will carry it with them then dock it to do more productive tasks. Which is what Ubuntu is trying to do with Android.
For me personally, the Nexus still gives me the most freedom and most up to date Android version, so no reason to buy anything else yet.
The best example of hardware ahead of software is the next iPhone, no matter how high res or fast it is, its still an iPhone running on closed source iOS, so I won't buy it.
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Yeah I agree with you. It's a shame OEMs don't provide software updates to the phones though, even though they are far capable. The One S is likely to receive Jellybean... But what about Key Lime Pie in the future?
That's where my problem lies. In 2 years, support will be dead. Also, I know you can use custom ROMs etc, but they are never perfect, as you need the official kernel source from HTC so the ROM cam be stable.
MR4Y said:
Is cutting edge hardware really that necessary? If you noticed, Google is the responsible for pushing the envelope and forcing more powerful hardware with less battery life and so. Remeber what happened to Honeycomb? Running slow and sluggish even on the platform it was specifically made for. Or wondering why the old Tegra cpu has some lag on ICS when the most recent S4 and Exynos quad core doesn't? Is there a reason for a dual core smartphone (HTC One S) to score higher than a quad core(HTC One X)? Our modern cutting edge phones are bigger, with objectionable battery life and can barely fit in our pockets.
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Well, I don't like to be behind in technology. When I compare my Desire S to say, a SGS2, it makes me weep seeing how much faster the SGS is. That's why my question, will hardware improve much from quad core? For me, dual core to quad core is a much smaller jump, than single to dual.
Nigeldg said:
Yeah, I don't use Sense for the reason that I find it sluggish. I've used my Mum's desire S now and again purely to see how good Sense is and whether or not to flash it, and it's always just seemed too slow for me, and since your hardware is of a newer generation I doubt my phone would cope well. However, with CM9 it genuinely is fast and smooth. The best performance improvement I've noticed over CM7/GB is in the browser, where I find the smoothness and the zooming comparable with an SGS3.
The One S is far ahead of the Sensation, you're right (actually it scores higher quadrant scores than a Sensation as well I think) but the only problem I'd have with a One S is simply that I don't know whether or not it's necessary to pay extra when you can pick up a Sensation relatively cheaply. In day-to-day performance I don't know whether or not you'll notice it tbh.
Perhaps an SGS2 would be better then, or maybe as suggested above a GNex.
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Yeah, thanks for the suggestion, I was thinking of the SGS2, for me the browser is far from what the SGS2 offers. There's a good video on YouTube,
Desire S vs SGS2 web browsing... Just watch the difference and you will kno what I mean!
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I'm looking forward to see what Intel will do for mobile platforms now that they have joined in, they are new to mobile development but it seems like they are working on there hyper threading tech on there socs, sending 2 commands per core like there desktop PC chips (1 core processing the same amount of information that two cores would do). The next 24 months will be an exciting time for the mobile market!
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