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HTC Sensation is better than SGS2

HTC chip-set of 1.2 dual core and andreno 220 is far more better that SGS2's 1.2 dual core and 2008's Mali-400 chip-set. I used both the handsets and now using HTC Sensation after SGS2.
The main problem with HTC is it's locked boot-loader and it's stock rom which is really not ready to use the full power.. The power is not equally distributed. Benchmark is not everything as sensation has issues with sense 3.0 and better pixels than the SGS2. Below is some link where you can understand the whole technical issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-adreno-220-gpu/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169376

The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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I prefer the sensation to sgs2 regardless of benchmarks or performence, mostly because of sense and nicer aesthetics
But I do have one concern, if you got to system/lib/egl, all the libs say adreno 200, could that be affecting performance?
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Actually the OP is right about the adreno 220 being better than the mali 400. The difference is the way samsung optimized the performance of their GPU with drivers and such. But for what the GPU can do spec wise, adreno 220 is superior. Too bad htc did not do a good job of showcasing that.

jrwingate6 said:
The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.

I trialed one on ATT...and: No its not...(unfortunately)

I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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jony013 said:
Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.
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Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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psn1819 said:
I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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It will not be August/September for the Sensation. Yes it will be unlocked but that is when the custom rom process begins. It will be weeks to months later before you get any stable releases of everything.

The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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pinhead said:
The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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Exactly, I buy whatever phone I like and right now I use a Sensation and a G2X. I think the Sensation is better than the G2X but I think the GSII is better than the Sensation and I'm not affraid to admit that just because I own the Sensation. If people think the Sensation is better than the GSII then they think the Sensation is the best Android phone available right now since almost every review I've read labels the GSII the best Android device to date. In fact, 9 out of 10 reviews state the GSII took Android to the next level but I haven't read any review stating the Sensation took it to the next level. Maybe if HTC would have released it with optimized drivers we would see reviews stating such.
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I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei

anarchyuk said:
I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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My Sensation gets extremely hot when playing Homerun Battle 3D and my G2X gets no where near as hot when playing the same game. In fact, after playing for 30 minutes it gets so hot that sometimes my screen becomes unresponsive to touch but the accelerometer still works. I think its definitely a driver issue but something shouldn't be getting so hot that it renders the phone useless.
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anarchyuk said:
I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer

That site is funny.
"These benchmark tests shows that Tegra 2 takes the lead over Exynos in almost every category. Specially, this is especially true for mobile gaming."
Looks like everything is better than Exynos.
But you are wrong, sensation is weak.

jrwingate6 said:
Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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Sounds to me your phone is syncing in the background

Hey people!! This reminds to me, old times with the HTC HD2 ( quetly brillant )
jajajaja yea yea... just quietly brillant... with the optimized drivers!

I have to laugh at all these banchmarks between the two...they aren't exactly valid.
The Sensation has a higher res screen that is has to push...which obviously means it has more work to do....it's not a fair comparison.
And in any case...benchmarks mean nothing to me...I chose to buy the Sensation because it looks so much better than the GS2, it has a better interface in Sense 3, and it's HTC

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Sounds to me your phone is syncing in the background
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My device syncs nothing but gmail. I have everything off including the HTC weather. I wouldn't even call my Gmail syncing since I'm using the Gmail app which uses push.
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Hoggles said:
I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer
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My Sensation doesn't get hot near the battery. It gets hot at the very bottom where all of the internals are.
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What am I missing - Galaxy SII

I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.

Dual core
1 gig of ram
It's only slightly smaller - actually feels better in your hand.
Gingerbread 2.3.4 from the carrier
Better GPS lock
I'm still wondering if it has the chip needed for voodoo sound though...

It's not a huge difference but you get gingerbread out the box, touchwiz 4.0, dual core, 1080p recording, hdmi(infuse as well), thx soluscado totally slipped my mind, etc. The infuse is ok but i'm probably getting rid of mine. The checkered loading is driving me crazy.

I agree with the OP. The dual core proc seems like a "meh" addition, especially considering the battery trade-off. I just don't use TouchWiz anyway, so that's irrelevant. The bigger screen is a BIG deal to me, and any video I take with my phone is displayed on my phone, so 1080p recording is irrelevant. I'm pretty sure you get HDMI out on the Infuse as well, but I have no use for that either. And the Gingerbread enhancements are so minor (to me) that I really couldn't care less whether it's available OOB or not.

crawlgsx said:
I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.
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What you said.

Yea no point. I'll stick with my infuse until samsung releases an lte phone on att like ours or the s2. Or wait for googles next phone and hope that is lte as well.
Dual core is not enough reason to upgrade, I want real 4g speeds.
Infuse running Serendipity VII

If the GPS chip is better than that of the infuse then I'm switching. I use the GPS more than anything else on the phone and that is a deal breaker for me. If the infuse had a perfect working GPS, I'd take it over the s2 anyday.
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The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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VtHondaGuy08 said:
The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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Lol but auto text on it is a total fail.... Hopefully you guys understand.
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I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?

teiglin said:
I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?
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looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though

I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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dajeoo said:
I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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Mine is def a netter lock then on my infuse.
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There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.

CheesyNutz said:
looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though
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It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.

MikeyMike01 said:
It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.
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If its anything like the Euro version it has 839mb ram for the user.
And I agree Mikey it is probably the best Android phone out there!

Do we know if its ddr2 ram? What about the i/o tech? That LG is dual something or other.
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MikeyMike01 said:
There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.
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I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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tazbo28 said:
I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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Report back after you have held and used one!
you will see the difference for sure
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Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010?
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I said 2010 on purpose. That's where single core Froyo phones belong.

What makes the g2x so special

I coming from htc g2 and all i got to say is that i am disappointed I though I was making a big jump changing to this phone but I was wrong.i was able to over clock my g2 to 1.8 ghz and have a very snappy phone with good battery life now with the g2x its the other way around I tried all the roms and theres always something or some kind of bug with them. Is there some thing special about tegra that I am missing out on!
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It sucks, you might as well leave now.
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Please do leave. Considering you have no concept of how a processor works. Our phone is DUAL CORE which means if we overclock to 1.55 (the highest we can go) it's basically 3 ghz and the g2 is 1.8 overclocked. This phone is actually 10x better than the g2 and is a worthy upgrade, but I don't think you're worthy...

You have Tegra 2 games advantage. Browser performance is probably little bit faster on G2X even though they both can probably only do 480p Adobe Flash at max.

It sucks, you might as well leave now.
I never said it sucked! All I am saying is if its one of the tegra phones why is is so buggy.
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Don't get me wrong and don't get mad I like the phone but there's something missing. You can't really tell the difference between this two I used to stream live TV on my g2 no problem and with the g2x it lags like crazy.
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You have Tegra 2 games advantage. Browser performance is probably little bit faster on G2X even though they both can probably only do 480p Adobe Flash at max.
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There is notqa huge selection of games that I can recall
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There is notqa huge selection of games that I can recall
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http://www.tegrazone.com/games
Now I'm planning on getting this phone and have heard some good things about its speed. I sold my MT4G not to long ago and I think any dual core phone if quicker than what I had, I doubt the G2X is so terrible on Ginger.

It would help if you told us the problems with ur phone so we can help to get it fixed.
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probably one of the best up to date phones that has vanilla android. cant stand sense that much

Well the G2 is a good solid phone. It's been out for much longer and is seasoned and tweaked to run well. I had a Nexus One and it worked pretty well.
One thing you have to realize is that Android doesn't even take advantage of dual cores yet, not until Ice Cream Sandwich. ICS also will bring (supposedly) whole UI graphic acceleration (like Win7 and iOS) for smooth transitions and fancy effects.
So while what you say is true, (My G2 was just as fast as the G2x), you are speaking in terms of NOW. But the G2x has some power under its hood. If Android can unlock the GPU for its UI, we'll definitely have the fastest phone out there.
As far as Streaming TV and video, that sounds like an app issue. You came from a second generation Snapdragon which was widely supported to a Tegra 2 which is new and fresh. Different apps run differently on different chipsets. If you use a Video player that properly utilizes the Tegra's, you'll have smooth playback. Bandwidth also comes into play. I stream Netflix all the time and have no issues, just depends on where you are. Hotels usually throttle network utilization so everyone can grab a piece of the pie, especially voice, video and P2P traffic. I typically have no issue at hotels either and I travel a LOT.
Perhaps it would be beneficial to tell us your setup. Rom, kernel, apps, etc.
I run MIUI 1.9.23 and no special kernel (ATM) or use Faux's 4.2 SV Kernel at normal speeds. I don't OC or UV or anything fancy. MIUI still has its issues but overall works great and is a joy to use.
MIUI, CM7, or Weapon is the best choices IMO. Weapon works VERY well but I think its butt ugly coming from MIUI or CM7 themes (no offense!). CM7 and MIUI work great but will probably never be perfect (because they are always changing and adding stuff) where Weapon is going after a stock-like perfection.
Also lots of the issues of the custom roms regarding WiFi Calling and APN issues are thought to be caused by the SIM card or related. I ordered a SUPER OLD never used SIM card off ebay, the old style, and will do some testing to see if I get any better results. Cost me $5.50 total and if it works, it will be money well spent. Good luck Jim.

i love the phone i used to have a Garminfone and this is 100 times better

Can't wait for this phone to show it's true power with ICS.

d12unk13astard said:
Can't wait for this phone to show it's true power with ICS.
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If the devs port ICS we will see it, LG won't be giving us anymore updates. G2X is dead to them.

Oh no doubt, my statement was based on the deb's porting it to all our devices. I know LG isn't gonna release any more updates or OTA cuz they suck. Without our devs our phones would never see ICS and therefore be obsolete long time ago.
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I know LG is probably not gonna have an icecream sandwich update for this phone but don't they have to update like legally? I could be wrong
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moeahmad1995 said:
I know LG is probably not gonna have an icecream sandwich update for this phone but don't they have to update like legally? I could be wrong
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There is no legal binding about the update. Even the GB update was to fix the issues they had and save their brand-name.
I remember how Samsung made us waiting for more than 6 months for 2.2 update for Vibrant.

Mister Hat said:
Please do leave. Considering you have no concept of how a processor works. Our phone is DUAL CORE which means if we overclock to 1.55 (the highest we can go) it's basically 3 ghz and the g2 is 1.8 overclocked. This phone is actually 10x better than the g2 and is a worthy upgrade, but I don't think you're worthy...
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Please do leave, You sir have no concept of how a processor works. If you over clock to 1.55 Its clocked at 1.55, Its not 3ghz because you can add both together. It just does not work like that, Tasks that are made to run on one core don't become suddenly faster because of the extra core helping out, The extra core hardly helps out at all. The only reason why the tegra 2 is Snappy is because of the CPU architecture and the gpu that's bolted in. Benchmarks don't mean a thing if a Snapdragon MSM8255 can run toe to toe with the Tegra 2 in applications.

The G2x is an awesome phone. I think that you just have not found a ROM that suites your needs. My wife has a G2 and she is all the time saying that she wants to switch phones because hers is so slow. Hers is rooted and overclocked to 1.5Ghz. Like someone said before tell us your problems and let us help you get your phone working right for you. Trust me people on this forum site can get your phone working properly for you.

x0xhellx0x said:
i love the phone i used to have a Garminfone and this is 100 times better
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I am so happy for you.....seriouslyI work for Garmin (@Headquarters) and I wouldn't dare buy a Garminfone

And who says Sidekicks are for teens ;)

So I'm at work (I now work at UPS, btw) and this late 20s, early 30's woman comes in looking to ship a package. I go ring her total up, then I noticed out the corner of my eye the slide from the sidekick 4g.
So we had a short conversation about how we both like a good qwerty and how nice it feels. It made me feel good because my best friend, who has an EVO, keeps telling me not to get one because nobody has one.
I'm not one to buy a phone based off of popularity, but based off of what I like. In about 2 weeks I'll be (officially) part of the SK4G family!

It really is the best Keyboard in TM's Android line up. It just seemed to be buggy from the start, not to mention considering it's Samsung updates come once in a Blue Moon.

I've always liked the Sidekick family, even though the first Sidekick I had was the ID. It served me well until I lost my data plan. I heard the LX and SL or whatever else there was, were great improvements and now I'm the proud owner of a 4G. I love it! It's got the feel of a Sidekick with all the perks Android has to offer. My only qualms are battery life and (occasionally) speed and lagging. I rooted my phone, and it seems to be performing much better, but this is all fairly new to me, so I'll have to have a friend who is more experinced with rooting and ROMs take a look at it.

Note... the sidekick may be fully functional, and a great messaging phone, but it is also a low end smartphone. You will notice graphics lag everywhere, it won't hinder you from doing anything, its just not pretty.
What im saying is... don't compare it to the evo. Its a real shame that Tmo doesn't have high end keyboard phones. On the other hand, I can actually type faster on the vibrant then on the Sidekick. The bigger the screen, the easier virtual keyboards become.

My low end sidekick 4g is way faster than my cousins evo, sense bogs you phone worse than touch wiz.... those " loading" screens when going back to the homescreen are annoying as heck, and not to mention the repopulation of apps when opening the app drawer too... it almost reminds me of my old g1...................................

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My low end sidekick 4g is way faster than my cousins evo, sense bogs you phone worse than touch wiz.... those " loading" screens when going back to the homescreen are annoying as heck, and not to mention the repopulation of apps when opening the app drawer too... it almost reminds me of my old g1...................................
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Now that I think about it, my sk4g was on par to Droid x / Droid 2 / Droid global on quadrant easily low 2000 scores every time.... I have a very technological family, we always compete who's is faster.....
Its embarrassing a $150 phone is faster than "high end" phones.... now nexus' are a different story ;-)

Dripz167 said:
So I'm at work (I now work at UPS, btw) and this late 20s, early 30's woman comes in looking to ship a package. I go ring her total up, then I noticed out the corner of my eye the slide from the sidekick 4g.
So we had a short conversation about how we both like a good qwerty and how nice it feels. It made me feel good because my best friend, who has an EVO, keeps telling me not to get one because nobody has one.
I'm not one to buy a phone based off of popularity, but based off of what I like. In about 2 weeks I'll be (officially) part of the SK4G family!
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Who cares who its marketed to. I'm 21 and own one. Its just a phone. Beer is marketed to adults only, and its seems pretty popular to teens. I love this phone, and on top of its speed, it has flash. Not many high end phones have it either.

I wish the camera had a flash...my only gripe. I would talk this phone up to the end of the earth if it did.

I honestly hate the low end specs....i loved the keyboard and 4G speeds maybe even form factor. Needs bettet larger screen flash bettet cam etc...i had to leave the.phone behind
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insanedrunk said:
Who cares who its marketed to. I'm 21 and own one. Its just a phone. Beer is marketed to adults only, and its seems pretty popular to teens. I love this phone, and on top of its speed, it has flash. Not many high end phones have it either.
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I'm glad to see you're not blinded by what people expect you to conform to.
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I wish the camera had a flash...my only gripe. I would talk this phone up to the end of the earth if it did.
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That's my only gripe also, but I still love this phone.
bipoler said:
I honestly hate the low end specs....i loved the keyboard and 4G speeds maybe even form factor. Needs bettet larger screen flash bettet cam etc...i had to leave the.phone behind
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Even though the perfect screen size for me is 4'', this phone has everything I wanted. And remember, 1ghz and 512mb ram were at one time high end specs.
It was either this phone or the epic, which is the only other phone I like, ever.

I've always loved the Sidekicks, I've owned 3, but I decided to get the 4G Slide for my daughter.
It has the best keyboard ever, hands down.

I am in my late 40s and my wife & I have had Sidekicks since Sidekick II. Still best keyboard on the market!!

oldarney said:
Its a real shame that Tmo doesn't have high end keyboard phones.
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You obviously haven't looked at the Tmo lineup of phones in more than a few months.......
MyTouch 4G Slide...
Last I checked 1.2ghz dual core Snapdragon processor with Adreno 220 gpu(yes, the same gpu as the Sensation, Amaze and Evo 3d), 8mp camera, 1080p video AND A KEYBOARD would be considered high end.....
The Sidekick 4g doesn't hold a candle to the MT4GS...not one iota. Sorry to those I might offend but I'm speaking from experience.....as the SK4G and the MT4GS are a couple of the phones I currently own and use every day....in fact I'll go as far as saying I'd ditch my SK4G for another G2 given the opportunity. Giving up the G2 for a SK4G was a big mistake to start with as the G2 had a lot more going for it. The ONLY thing the SK4G has that the G2 doesn't? A FFC....who uses it anyways?

jsyi84 said:
You obviously haven't looked at the Tmo lineup of phones in more than a few months.......
MyTouch 4G Slide...
Last I checked 1.2ghz dual core Snapdragon processor with Adreno 220 gpu(yes, the same gpu as the Sensation, Amaze and Evo 3d), 8mp camera, 1080p video AND A KEYBOARD would be considered high end.....
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Exactly.
It's UNDERCLOCKED from the factory to 1.2ghz. It should actually be running 1.5ghz. If a single core G2 can be OC'd to 1.9ghz, imagine overclocking both cores..?!??!

IMO from what I have read the hummingbird kicks the crap out of almost everything on the market still in terms of graphics performance, I just wish we could OC higher like the G2 but we aren't going to get that kind of support needed for a kernel that crazy
I'd love a dual core but I can't deal with a touchscreen only phone or a crappy keyboard (tried G2 and MT4GS) I couldn't ever get speed like I can on a sidekick. I went from an LX to a G1 and that was a nice keyboard but every phone I had after that was painful to type on. I will be holding out until another phone comes out with a comparable keyboard before I upgrade from this one. A dual or quad core would be nice but I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything major right now besides being able to tinker with it ;P

RazoE said:
Exactly.
It's UNDERCLOCKED from the factory to 1.2ghz. It should actually be running 1.5ghz. If a single core G2 can be OC'd to 1.9ghz, imagine overclocking both cores..?!??!
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Well not really. The Sensation is clocked at 1.2 ghz. And so is the Evo 3d. But the Amaze has a 1.5 snapdragon s3 processor. Different from the Sensation and evo 3d. Even if the it was 1.5ghz it still won't get the same performance as the Amaze and Evo 3d because they are newer processors. I believe that when you overclock a phone with dualcores it overclocks both core. Not just one..
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ishred11 said:
I believe that when you overclock a phone with dualcores it overclocks both core. Not just one..
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Wrong and right. We can currently oc to 1.7 using the virtuous unity kernels but if you try to oc using apps like setcpu it will show as being overclocked but it only oc's one core since setcpu doesn't support it yet. So it depends on how you try to oc. However setcpu works just fine for underclocking both cores.
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xmeatizmurderx said:
IMO from what I have read the hummingbird kicks the crap out of almost everything on the market still in terms of graphics performance, I just wish we could OC higher like the G2 but we aren't going to get that kind of support needed for a kernel that crazy
I'd love a dual core but I can't deal with a touchscreen only phone or a crappy keyboard (tried G2 and MT4GS) I couldn't ever get speed like I can on a sidekick. I went from an LX to a G1 and that was a nice keyboard but every phone I had after that was painful to type on. I will be holding out until another phone comes out with a comparable keyboard before I upgrade from this one. A dual or quad core would be nice but I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything major right now besides being able to tinker with it ;P
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having had a galaxy as well I can personally say FROM EXPERIENCE samsung products need more polish. Hummingbird or not you'd never know cuz they run like turd.
have you not realized how pitiful samsung products are. After the 3 samsung smartphones I've had now I can firmly say FROM EXPERIENCE You can put any processor or nice screen in it but as the saying goes you can cover a pile of crap in gold but its still a pile of crap...
TRUE WORDS FROM SOMEONE WITH FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE AND HAVE OWNED THEM. (vibrant, galaxy s 4g, sidekick 4g, g2, mytouch 4g, mytouch 4g slide
Not just writing about what I read elsewhere LOL.
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I have owned every SK since the B&W, with the exception of the slide, and having given the 3 immediately away as an "Oh Crap, it's your birthday today?!" gift to an ex.
Extremely solid phones, from my experience. Having been a Jr./Sr. High schooler through most of the models, I put them to the test. In fact, on multiple occasions I had pulled out my SKII and played hackysack with it. I also sprayed it to the point of immersion with a hose one day when doing yardwork and the lil guy just kept on goin. The 3 was a bit finicky, but I enjoyed making custom skins for it. From what I hear the slide was a piece so I'm glad I avoided that one.
My phone prior to the SK4G was the G2, and I have given a fair comparison in another thread so no need to do that here. I see the strengths in the G2 and if I were not a SK guy I would have been extremely happy.
Now, the only reason I've ever had to hate on the SK is the false market that they attempt to sell it to. When the 1st gen hiptop released I was 13. For as cool as it was, it was underpowered for me. They have continued to give me outdated or slow hardware ever since. I would easily have spent more money every single time for a phone that would actually hold it's own amongst the big boys for a while. Looking at this years model - Hummingbird... 512mb ram... 3mp camera with no flash .. really?
However, I love the design. I've been spoilt for fast typing keyboards (On previous models I would out-type the screen and have to wait a good 10 sec to watch it get typed out. Heck, I've written 3-4 page reports on the LX during the class it was assigned). I've been spoilt for multitasking via jump shortcuts. Bringing android into the mix was a great move.

Tsloble said:
I have owned every SK since the B&W, with the exception of the slide, and having given the 3 immediately away as an "Oh Crap, it's your birthday today?!" gift to an ex.
Extremely solid phones, from my experience. Having been a Jr./Sr. High schooler through most of the models, I put them to the test. In fact, on multiple occasions I had pulled out my SKII and played hackysack with it. I also sprayed it to the point of immersion with a hose one day when doing yardwork and the lil guy just kept on goin. The 3 was a bit finicky, but I enjoyed making custom skins for it. From what I hear the slide was a piece so I'm glad I avoided that one.
My phone prior to the SK4G was the G2, and I have given a fair comparison in another thread so no need to do that here. I see the strengths in the G2 and if I were not a SK guy I would have been extremely happy.
Now, the only reason I've ever had to hate on the SK is the false market that they attempt to sell it to. When the 1st gen hiptop released I was 13. For as cool as it was, it was underpowered for me. They have continued to give me outdated or slow hardware ever since. I would easily have spent more money every single time for a phone that would actually hold it's own amongst the big boys for a while. Looking at this years model - Hummingbird... 512mb ram... 3mp camera with no flash .. really?
However, I love the design. I've been spoilt for fast typing keyboards (On previous models I would out-type the screen and have to wait a good 10 sec to watch it get typed out. Heck, I've written 3-4 page reports on the LX during the class it was assigned). I've been spoilt for multitasking via jump shortcuts. Bringing android into the mix was a great move.
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You interested in buying my sidekick id or 08(needs new battery) real cheap? Lol jk.
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Is the processor comparable with nVidia tegra 2

I am currently using T-Mobile G2X.
I am planning to jump ship to different phone.
My choice are HTC SENSATION and Samsung Galaxy R.
Can anybody point me to some benchmark that compares g2x with GB and sensation?
most of the comparisons done so far only with froyo g2x and GB sensation and sensation wins.
Moreover do you people find the battery capacity reasonable?
For dual core, 4.3" qhd screen having phone, isn't 1520 mah battery too tiny?
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I had o2x.. I am more happy with sensa ton.. Maybe because of more ram.
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I finally found it by my self.
nvidia tegra 2 is way faster than HTC sensation's processor in terms of benchmark result.
Moreover HTC sensation is the slowest dual core android mobile phone in terns of benchmark results .
But I have jumpshipped to it anyway.
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raddy said:
I finally found it by my self.
nvidia tegra 2 is way faster than HTC sensation's processor in terms of benchmark result.
Moreover HTC sensation is the slowest dual core android mobile phone in terns of benchmark results .
But I have jumpshipped to it anyway.
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That is without Hardware acceleration and stock tests.

I am referring the phonedog comparison of G2X and sensation.
In which they ran 3d benchmark against g2x running 2.2 and sensation runnning 2.3
Sensation got a score of 1900 and g2x got a score of 2300, if hardware acceleration may not be taken into account then it wont be for g2x also no?
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The benchmarks don't take into consideration dual cores and the fact that the Sensation is running Asynchronous cores.
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I think that Sensation shows bad benchmark results because of that crap heavy Sense ui. Qualcomm's s3 processor is quite powerful.
T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5KEtA-soIk&feature=related
T-Mobile (qualcomm) vs original Galaxy s2 (exynos): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5q6UrN_4Jw&feature=related
Samsung Galaxy S 2 HD LTE (this phone has 720p screen): http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=N6ATGeXkUFI
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And benchmarks don't mean you-know-what.

Slowest dual core? lolno.
Ive only been here a couple of months. Ive gathered quite a bit reading all these forums. Ive read up on stuff like these elsewhere. Ive also played around with a LOT of phones. And by playing around I dont mean the 15 mins in a shop opening apps and checking camera of different phones before you buy them. My friends have pretty good phones (O2X, GS2, GS, Desire HD, O3D, Xperia arc, neo etc)
Ive done almost everything there is to do on those phones and always I end up glad I have my sensation. Looks - hands down winner. Sexiest phone ever, tied with the arc imo. Its no slouch. Benchmarks? I get **** high scores on custom ROMS. After I proved it, I uninstalled the apps from my phone cos they meant nothing. People are always gonna claim their phone is better and cos an app gave them a coloured bar with a nice big number, its way faster. Trust me, you're gonna be glad you got a senny. (Unless its defective of course) S2 feels like crap, runs at the same speed mine does if not seemingly slower and the screen is tough to work with. (SAMOLED? lol not as cool as it claims to be) and its less responsive than mine. Im happier with my sensation than I would have been with any other phone in almost EVERY aspect. The xperia Live's speaker volume has me a bit jealous but thats about it. I use earphones anyway. G2X feels awful. I cant work with it. Ever. And the camera on the senny blows the others outta the water. With the crap HTC drivers and the asynchronous system, the senny is bloody amazing and can easily easily keep up with any phone and beat the crap out of most. Wait till ICS. Proper ICS.
Ok end of rant. If anyone says your phone is the slowest dual core - laugh. Then walk away
Oh and all the websites that review phones.. I relied on them quite a bit myself. Trusted the pics of benchmarks they put up and read how they reviewed phones and took tiny little things like the 2MP FFC on the S2 and worshipped it, etc etc. 90% of those sites have no idea what theyre talking about. Any phone with the bigger MHz clock speed on the box is faster. .7MP more FFC is holyshishkebab. phone is .3mm slimmer! OH MY GOD! Thats the basic idea. Dont trust that. Do your own research.
Now - actual end of rant.

Thanks for your rant, as even I am now owning a sensation too.
I am an avid fan of Htc sense ui,
I didn't know any other strength of HTC sensation before reading your post.
Eventhough g2x is more slimmer than sensation, in look wise sensation is class apart from any android Mobile phone and can be comparable only with Sony Ericsson xperia arc and iPhone
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