Hey There!
So a few weeks ago my friend (HaiKaiDo here on the XDA forums) got a replacement Samsung captivate from att after having some bad luck with an Official "OTA" update. Upon running odin the first time on his phone to prepare it for flashing some of the roms here on XDA he noticed that after doing so, he lost his capability to use the three button combination to kick him into download mode. While there is another version of odin, this still made both of uneasy with thoughts of a "yeah...that would only happen to me -_-" moment. So he asked me if we could make a USB jig for just incase. This would be something that isnt just a bunch of resistors twisted together and taped to a hacked off micro usb cable ending, or just twisting resistors together and trying to POKE at the inside of the captivates micro usb port (Sounds primitive yes?). After a few minutes of brain storming we came up with a failry simple solution and list of materials needed
1.) Premade PCB Board
2.) A Now defunct wireless receiver for a Kensington wireless mouse. (this was for the housing
3.) 3 100k Ohm Resistors (Fire resistant 2% tolerance worked best for us)
4.) A Micro USB ending carefully revoed from its cable and plastic housing
5.) Spray liquid tape and some good old fashioned HotGlue
There were two main attempts made at making this USB jig. The first attempt ended in complete failure and frustration through what turned out to be no fault of our own. It just so turned out that we were using resistors that were using had a higher tolerance (this ends up in discrepancy in what the actual resistance is compared to the rated resistance) so a few things were happening here. We would get out a meter to test the resistance and everything would pan out fine, then directly after we would plug in the jig and no dice. This led to us repeatedly adding and removing 1k ohm resistors for hours trying to find the "sweet spot" so to speak. This never happened....at all. So here we are a few weeks later with those nice 2% tolerance resistors (that were picked up from Fry's electronic for .95 cents SUCKIT RADIO SHACK heh 6 dollars for a pack of resistors bah) and some spare time. This time around, things went much smoother and faster with trimming down the pcb board, soldering on the resistors to the board and connecting them from the board to the micro usb end. And finally cramming them neatly (with **** loads of hot glue ) into the case that we had fashioned to use for this project. Here are some pictures and Youtube video of the final product below!
Enjoy
Spankmaster & HaiKaiDo(Hand cameo in the video woot woot )
PS: Stop spending TEN DOLLARS ON EBAY for one of these! Its rather easy and pretty damn fun to do! And how cool will you look when you can show your friends what you made ;D
PSS: Sorry for the lack of any form of start and middle pictures or content, we always decide to make something and think that were not going to post it, and then when it ends up being cool all we have is the end result to tell about hah.
Cool. And that's the first I've ever heard of Liquid Tape.
Liquid tape is the bomb I like the spray stuff better, but they sell it in a jar like rubber cement too.
I know this a SUPER old bump. But this was something that a friend and i made a good few months back but i think it has relevance as it seems there is a wave of people asking about jigs again in random places strewn throughout the forums. So for the same of saving some phones and money. BUMP
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Stop spending TEN DOLLARS ON EBAY for one of these!
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When you factor in the cost of the resistors, that little board, the usb connector, and a can of liquid tape if you don't have it already, it would cost alot more to make one than the $8 I paid for my jig that I purchased. You did a great job with your jig and the video but if you don't already have the supplies it is way cheaper and easier to just buy one.
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When you factor in the cost of the resistors, that little board, the usb connector, and a can of liquid tape if you don't have it already, it would cost alot more to make one than the $8 I paid for my jig that I purchased. You did a great job with your jig and the video but if you don't already have the supplies it is way cheaper and easier to just buy one.
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I would have to completely disagree. I made this ALL out of stuff i had laying around the house. also The bread board is optional. That was just my own personal touch. I spent 0 dollars. you spent 8 ;D. I had my jig in 30 minutes, you had to wait days. ;D
does the jig have to be 300k and just 300k it cant be a little off?
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does the jig have to be 300k and just 300k it cant be a little off?
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Its actually supposed to be 301k, but with the large tolerance found in resistors 300k will do.
^^^ Yep. Ohmed out, one of my jigs is 294.
just showin off my jIG
nice jig, but i think mine is secksy cant post links till i spam the forum with 8 post's :O
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http://revision3.com/tbhs/charge
Just the first part of the video, I think the second part is just overkill.
In a pinch? Why not! That dude's whacked!
That was pretty cool. Too bad I'd probably break it when attempting something like that.
I mean really, you can probably find a 4 pack of cheap-o flashlights like this from home depot for under $20, so if your first attempt doesn't work, you got 3 back-ups. I think it's a pretty good idea for either being in a pinch or going camping. I'm not gonna be "that guy" on a camping trip and bring a portable generator and some gas, just so I can charge my phone to stay up to date with facebook lol. I'd rather just have this in my pocket.
Very true. That may be a project to tackle once I move into my house and have some space to work on projects. Soldering over carpet just asks for problems.
I'd rather buy an extra battery
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lyrad12 said:
I'd rather buy an extra battery
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But then you have to turn your phone off and lose the precious seconds of data connection to the rest of the world.
There has to be a way to get those little wind up flash lights to wind up on their own..
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There has to be a way to get those little wind up flash lights to wind up on their own..
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If you had the money/right technology.... Take a page from Rolex and figure out how to use body heat or skin contact to keep it wound up.
Or.... forget about the flashlight all-together and pick up a small solar panel. Get a female usb plug and wire it to the panel, so all you have to do run your usb cord to the panel and have it sitting in the light. It would be a lot less bulky and still accomplish the same task.
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If you had the money/right technology.... Take a page from Rolex and figure out how to use body heat or skin contact to keep it wound up.
Or.... forget about the flashlight all-together and pick up a small solar panel. Get a female usb plug and wire it to the panel, so all you have to do run your usb cord to the panel and have it sitting in the light. It would be a lot less bulky and still accomplish the same task.
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That's too simple, they make those:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3899264&filterName=Category
Milkshakes00 said:
That's too simple, they make those:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3899264&filterName=Category
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Yea, $50 though!!!
The wind-up flash light concoction is less than $10. Or you can get a 6 volt solar panel from harbor freight for less than $15 and get resistors for some change from radio shack, so you can make your own solar charger for less than $20.
Thanks for the rec!
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Thanks for the rec!
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No problem! I posted this just so people know that they can be made at home for 1/5th the price of a store bought portable charger!
Haha this is awesome! I'm not having any problems with my battery life (gets me through the day, good enough for me), but I think I might just make this for the fun of it xD
I love the Ben Heck show
vunuts said:
Yea, $50 though!!!
The wind-up flash light concoction is less than $10. Or you can get a 6 volt solar panel from harbor freight for less than $15 and get resistors for some change from radio shack, so you can make your own solar charger for less than $20.
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Might cost less, but it's significantly less appealing to the eye, and has a higher chance of having issues compared to something that's been molded to protect the circuitry and resistors.
More importantly, you can get a warranty on the product through radioshack.. $5.. replacement for 3 years? Sure better to spend $55 then spend $20 every year. =P
Well the phone is supposed to be the eye candy lol, not the charger. But if you take your time and wire everything correctly, just put some heat shrink on the wires and make it more appealing, and if you take your time and have confidence in your work, you won't need to invest in a warranty
Hi
I recently dropped my desire onto concrete and, while it landed on the side and thankfully wasn't too damaged the side housing was slightly split and was sharp, so I ebay'd a replacement casing (only £2.99) and went about fitting it.
All went well except when I popped the micro-coax cable for the gps antenna (by sticking my fingernail under the jack, as I have done many times on other similar connectors) it simply flew off, leaving the cable flapping. For what it's worth, I can't believe (given the amount of force I used) that it can have been connected fully in the first place, but of course I can't prove that now...
I'm pretty sure I can't solder that back together, firstly I don't think I have the skill or the kit (I can solder but this looks pretty intricate) and secondly I'm unsure there's enough spare cable left to solder it.
So now I'm looking for another cable and I simply can't find anyone selling them; further I can't even find any detail on the type of connector so I can search for a generic cable that might fit.
Any info would be much appreciated!
Geoff
Hi
Last year i made the same mistake and I found the following:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/antenna-cable-replacement-for-htc-desire-bravo-a8181-a8182-a8183-g7-p-3759.html?language=en
My device had other errors,so I didn't try it after all,bought a used Desire.
Anyway,I think this connector is called U.FL or IPX,commonly used in miniPCI(e) laptop wifi cards,routers,etc.It can't be soldered as it's not soldered originally.
Info.
I hope this info could help.
kj00 said:
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Last year i made the same mistake and I found the following:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/antenna-cable-replacement-for-htc-desire-bravo-a8181-a8182-a8183-g7-p-3759.html?language=en
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Thanks for the info. Unfortunately the item they ship is completely wrong - the cable's too long and the coax connectors are too large.
Think I'm going to have to resort to looking for a faulty phone on ebay.
Thanks anyway.
Geoff
Edit: for what it's worth it looks like the cable is W.FL, not U.FL - basically the same but smaller.
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for what it's worth it looks like the cable is W.FL, not U.FL - basically the same but smaller.
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I ended up with a Hirose 10cm W.FL cable from RS - they don't stock the Hirose 70mm version which would have been better, the only people who seem prepared to sell that is mouser and they wanted about 20UKP including delivery.
The RS cable works but I had to bend it around stuff to use up the extra cable and the signal quality doesn't seem 100% at first impression (I'll do some side-by-side testing later with my wife's Desire - I did the repair this morning first thing before I left for work!) - I'm hoping it will be Good Enough though (I'm getting 6 or 7 sats, so it should be usable).
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/connector-rf/6196387/
There's a guy on ebay selling a 38mm W.FL cable and when I asked he said he could supply a 65mm version (should be about perfect) for $4.50 delivered, so for anyone still looking for one that's probably the best option (I'd already ordered the RS one by then though)
Contact him through
http://myworld.ebay.com/connekt/
He replied to me within the day, for what it's worth.
Disclaimer: no connection to connekt, mouser or indeed RS
Geoff
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The RS cable works but I had to bend it around stuff to use up the extra cable and the signal quality doesn't seem 100% at first impression (I'll do some side-by-side testing later with my wife's Desire - I did the repair this morning first thing before I left for work!) - I'm hoping it will be Good Enough though (I'm getting 6 or 7 sats, so it should be usable).
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For anyone considering it, the 10cm cable was perfectly adequate - I drove into work with the Desire navigating and it all went perfectly. Sat next to another Desire GPS Status shows very similar output, certainly nothing noticeably worse.
So despite posts on here suggesting that our phone wouldn't work with the Standard Dock for the Bionic, I decided to take the plunge and snag one anyways ($10.99 w/free shipping on Amazon here if you're Prime). I figured I could eat the cost if it wouldn't work, and I also ordered a small micro usb 'extension cord' at the same time, to see if that would help.
The dock arrived today and I popped the phone on the dock - it doesn't sit flush in the cradle (as to be expected, the port is shifted to the left), but it does connect, the phone recognizes it's connected (and offers various dock modes), and it charges the device (when plugged in, of course).
I still may try and disassemble the device and shift the plug over to make it fit flush, but it does work as is.
Just figured I'd share in case anyone else just wanted a simple dock/charging station wasn't up to spending the $80+ that the A2 specific HD dock goes for.
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So despite posts on here suggesting that our phone wouldn't work with the Standard Dock for the Bionic, I decided to take the plunge and snag one anyways ($10.99 w/free shipping on Amazon here if you're Prime). I figured I could eat the cost if it wouldn't work, and I also ordered a small micro usb 'extension cord' at the same time, to see if that would help.
The dock arrived today and I popped the phone on the dock - it doesn't sit flush in the cradle (as to be expected, the port is shifted to the left), but it does connect, the phone recognizes it's connected (and offers various dock modes), and it charges the device (when plugged in, of course).
I still may try and disassemble the device and shift the plug over to make it fit flush, but it does work as is.
Just figured I'd share in case anyone else just wanted a simple dock/charging station wasn't up to spending the $80+ that the A2 specific HD dock goes for.
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If you have time, would you mind posting a picture of it sitting in the cradle for me? I would love to get one, but I'm picky about dumb things. Just wanted to see what I would be looking at.
Thanks.
skearton said:
If you have time, would you mind posting a picture of it sitting in the cradle for me? I would love to get one, but I'm picky about dumb things. Just wanted to see what I would be looking at.
Thanks.
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Will do once I find batteries for my 'real' camera. So used to using the phone as a camera these days.
But I can tell you it sticks up and out, and looks awkward as hell. So it's probably not going to be aesthetically pleasing to you.
That's what I was thinking.
Maybe I can take a dremel to it?
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I have to apologize - I'm having a comedy of errors here when it comes to trying to get pictures (that aren't from the phone itself, at least). I can't find the main camera. I found an older camera but it's apparently dead (got a pretty purple grainy picture at my attempt). If I do happen to find that regular camera anytime soon, I'll snap some pictures.
In the meanwhile, I've linked to 2 pictures of the dock w/o the phone in it (taken by the phone, ofc) ... instead of sitting flush, the phone is over to the left about the length of my pinky. Please ignore my fat hands holding said dock.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8mauz9yfq72htoa/2013-04-12 13.02.10.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6xwo6w8t4fpbzsx/2013-04-12 13.01.47.jpg
So I took it apart (and probably destroyed it, but oh well) ... there's 2 rubber pads on the bottom, one on each side. Beneath each pad are two small phillips head screws. Pop those four out and the device should separate. I tried making my own hole next to where it comes by default (stretching the cabling, flipping the shield, etc), even marking the usb so that it was extended out far enough. No dice. Worked briefly as a dock again but I wasn't happy with how unsteady it was and fiddled with it more, and now it doesn't recognize it as dock.
If anyone else wants to hack at it and is willing to cover your own shipping costs, toss me a PM and I'll be happy to send in onward.
Ok heres the deal
This is not a HOW to but More of its, Possible and How i did it, My Mod is very raw, and ugly, but it is sturdy and Functional so I felt it was worth Posting
Materials Used
I had several things Lying around that aided this Mod Greatly First was a Dead droid razer Maxx someone gave me that did some time swimming when he fell off his boat
So I used the Eb40 3200 Miiliamp battery as the base for this Mod
I pillaged the Following from the razor Max board
the Power Connection
i used baking soda and super Glue to secure it into place into a hole I cut into the Photons Back cover after securing the new power connection I wired the new battery to the photon Q board, on this part I soldered the Data wires very gently using the Hard won skills I earned while doing the sim card mod on the same phone, this connections are done very lightly with very thin wiring, leaving it reverseable if i so chose todo so..
the EB41 battery and the eb40 battery have mirror image connections to each other so when wiring up the eb40, remember to arrange them in the correct order, which is Opposite the eb41
now i built a harness for the eb40 battery using a cheep 3 dollar rubber coated case off amazon using the same baking soda and super glue trick to build the pocket to hold the battery, then doing a wee bit of finishing using JB weld
Im not sure how to attach photos here but will give this a shot, enjoy and I wish you Luck if u wish to attempt this yourselves using what I have Pioneered
...it looks crazy
unfortunately this is not save for charging ic inside phone
CornholioGSM said:
...it looks crazy
unfortunately this is not save for charging ic inside phone
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how so? hopefully not something i missed the orginal eb 41 is gone are u speaking of a resistance issue with the new wiring? i guess im a bit confused how does any other phone accept an extended battery if not in this fashion?
the mod basically just provides an external jack on the back of the phone to accept the eb40 the unit has been charging fine
but if there is potential for damage please elaborate
The mod is nice but your phone looks like crap now
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The mod is nice but your phone looks like crap now
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ill post updated pics i have done some painting and sanding on the battery hoslter its alot cleaner now
Skrilax_CZ said:
The mod is nice but your phone looks like crap now
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ill post updated pics i have done some painting and sanding on the battery hoslter its alot cleaner now
also a reminder that bbig ugly thing is a modified protective case backing to hold the its not part of the phone
havent much to post about on the cosmetic end of things, but id like to report that still going strong with an average battery life of 2 days between charges or 4- 5 hours of straight ingress play if the mood requires, so id say the mod is an overall success inspite of its socks in sandles cosmetic apperance so i will choose the much extended functionality over the poor cosmetic appearance, but each day this phone sees very hard use as it bascially functions as my first line of use for all my work invoicing and parts researching I do 8 -12 hour days of appliance repair work, and a charge usually lasts an entire day now vs the dead in 3 hours the previous battery offered me, so after all this elapsed time, i can say to anyone else wishing to try this, mine has been a total success, and when i get around to making it pretty ill post pics
I applaud any mod. But in this case I am wonderig why you didn't order one of those USB powerbanks on Ebay for $ 10,- and replaced the 18650 internal battery with let's say a decent Panasonic 3600mAh? That's what I did. It can fully charge a Photon Q and is about the size of an oldskool bubble gum pack
Edit: This fan from Digi-Key isn't the same fan as the stock one. I wouldn't advise buying it until bignazpwns confirms if his method works.
The fan in this phone is made of the softest type of plastic available. If you've messed with it at all you've probably broken it accidentally. Or, in my case you dropped the phone and the fan began clicking.
There are no results if you google "red magic 3 fan replacement", but luckily I've found the fan itself (not the fan housing) on Digi-Key for roughly $18.72 (remove the space): www .digikey.com/product-detail/en/delta-electronics/BSB01703HA3-00CAJ/603-2066-ND/7403223
A guide on how to take it out/put it in can be derived from this video (remove the space): www .youtube.com/watch?v=JiS24PRIq-A&t=268s
Helo, thanks for the info. Do you know where this fan ships from which country ?
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Helo, thanks for the info. Do you know where this fan ships from which country ?
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The sender address is extremely Chinese.
Thank you so much for the info
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bignazpwns said:
That fan won't work. It's a 4 wire pwm can in the RM3 that fan is a 3 wire.
I ordered one I broke my fan so I'm going to see if it has the -FP+ like the stock fan and just needs a wire or if I gotta transplant the board. Delta said it's a custom fan so I'll post what I get to get it back up and running.
Update. They offer no replacement fans what so ever and no help at all other then send it in for an extremely costly repair that will take over a month to complete.
I'll be making a guide this week about adapting the bsb01703ha3-00 as a replacement. There is no reason for them not to sell this fan or provide any info. 3 wire fan should work but will have no pwm control but I think there might be a solder point on it for the pwm lead. I'll post my findings as well as If I swap out the fans pcb with the OEM one. That should be the best way to do it and use the new fan as a donor housing and fan.
You will need to mod the housing tho since the blade is just held in by it's magnets and could move when dropped. This is why the OEM has that little bar over it. But I'll make a guide for everyone and save them a ton of money and time.
If you have a sla or dlp printer and you need a new housing here ya go.
www .thingiverse.com/search?q=Red+Magic+3&dwh=455dc3648534fa9
I'm working on a replacement fan as well.
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Sorry I've been meaning to make an update. I had the same idea you had for the -FP+ thing, and was just going to try connecting everything judging from the labels on (remove space) www .delta-fan.com/Download/Spec/BSB01703HA3-00CAJ.pdf , and connect + to + and - to -, and try both remaining ones with the middle wire. Unfortunately my fan's cables were too short to do that.
What I wound up doing was taking the circuit board (with all 4 cables) and very carefully placing it in the housing of the new fan, replacing its board. I soldered everything back up and nothing. It wouldn't spin at all, even on boot. So as far as I know this isn't a viable method, pending bignazpwns' response. I've already updated the OP to reflect. Big ups to bignazpwns for going the extra mile with the replacements
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Note.
Replacement fan is much louder due to the fact 100% is a bit more RPM. Just replaced the fan with one with a replacement blade assembly, coils off the aftermarket fan all on the stock pcb. This gets the auto speed control back and makes preform like stock. 100% is a little bit less in terms of RPM but much more quiet.
Just note swapping coils is not easy.
You will need to remove 1/2 a coil so you can get to the other solder pad. Red Magic fan used SMT coils and the replacement is soldered by hand. You will also need to apply light heat to remove them. They are stuck down with adhesive. I used a hot air reflow station but you really need to watch the heat because you can cause it to uncoil. Scale from 1-10 for soldering skill this is a 10.
The replacement fan drops right in and offeresore rpm to move more air at 100% just connect the 3 wires and be done with it. I'm always here to give advice and help of you need to do this. Also for adhesive I use this. AJ Sign World Best 1" Ultra-Thin... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBJVU04?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share it's thin and super strong. If you work on phones I highly recommend you get a roll.
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Thanks for the advice just in case my fans breaks when i get my phone
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Thanks for the advice just in case my fans breaks when i get my phone
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NP. I destroyed mine with 100psi of air lol. No big deal easy fix and it's only hard if you make it. I'll probably swap the replacement fan back in for the higher rpm and more air flow. On and off control is good enough for me.
What happened with all of these info removed ? My fan started to make weird noises and i start investigating on its replacement... The most disappointing fact is i barely used the fan and the phone has around 6 month :|
So what happened with the info ?
Alex4455 said:
What happened with all of these info removed ? My fan started to make weird noises and i start investigating on its replacement... The most disappointing fact is i barely used the fan and the phone has around 6 month :|
So what happened with the info ?
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OP trolled us.
No I removed the info. People need to realize no on won here owes people anything. But for some reason they think they do. So all info was removed. People can figure out what needs to be done on there own.
Alex I'll help you out. Just send me a private message.