[OFFTOPIC] Did Google just give away a upcoming Nexus 3? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...tegory=classic&postPage=3&icid=eng_latest_art
This quote made me think " Google tells us that Facebook's sync privileges will only be revoked in the Nexus S (not the Nexus One) and other "lead devices" yet to come "

What's so surprising about that? You didn't think the nexus s is the last of the nexus line is it? lol

A lead device comes out tomorrow. See what happens with that one.

First of all, it wouldn't be "Nexus 3" because the numbers dont go: 1,3,4,5,6...
And yeah another Nexus device would come out not sure when.

lol, omg, rofl, lmao blah blah blah. Holy **** I can't get away from this crap. I just don't understand how grown men/women feel this crap is an acceptable way to converse with others.
OK, I'm in a really bad mood and you are the lucky winner of my wrath. My apologies.
EDIT: That was for you Mokurex, but again I do apologize for the rant.

What? You mean the Nexus S won't be the last one?! Who would have known?!

Actually, Google already said there would be one. Like just said it. I don't really feel like going and finding the link but ya...this is far from interesting or new. Good job.

I just hope they come to their senses and move away from Samsung on their next flagship device.

irishrally said:
lol, omg, rofl, lmao blah blah blah. Holy **** I can't get away from this crap. I just don't understand how grown men/women feel this crap is an acceptable way to converse with others.
OK, I'm in a really bad mood and you are the lucky winner of my wrath. My apologies.
EDIT: That was for you Mokurex, but again I do apologize for the rant.
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1. I'm not exactly a grown men, please don't increase my age.
2. I don't take this stuff personally so no worries, we're cool

Mokurex said:
1. I'm not exactly a grown men, please don't increase my age.
2. I don't take this stuff personally so no worries, we're cool
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A mature response to an immature rant. There is hope after all.
EDIT: I think there will be a third Nexus phone that I plan on owning.

Not going digging but a source from HTC was rumored/qouted for saying that Google was highly displeased with the nexus s at build. However the phone was set to release and had to ship. He had also said that talks were already under way for the next one to come back home. Something else to note was that Samsung damn near built the phone for free feeling that having the coo of the nexus under them would take them to another level.
IMO they failed in that aspect. I dig my nexus...but its a glorified captivate to me. They could have done much much more. I won't ever buy another Samsung mobile product.
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vapor311 said:
Not going digging but a source from HTC was rumored/qouted for saying that Google was highly displeased with the nexus s at build. However the phone was set to release and had to ship. He had also said that talks were already under way for the next one to come back home. Something else to note was that Samsung damn near built the phone for free feeling that having the coo of the nexus under them would take them to another level.
IMO they failed in that aspect. I dig my nexus...but its a glorified captivate to me. They could have done much much more. I won't ever buy another Samsung mobile product.
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You are exactly right. Google was pissed because unlike the Nexus One which was built from the ground up to be the best, most powerful, most beautiful Android device to date, the Nexus S was really just a rebranded Galaxy S with a curved screen and a NFC chip.

vapor311 said:
Not going digging but a source from HTC was rumored/qouted for saying that Google was highly displeased with the nexus s at build. However the phone was set to release and had to ship. He had also said that talks were already under way for the next one to come back home. Something else to note was that Samsung damn near built the phone for free feeling that having the coo of the nexus under them would take them to another level.
IMO they failed in that aspect. I dig my nexus...but its a glorified captivate to me. They could have done much much more. I won't ever buy another Samsung mobile product.
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Well someone is lying, either HTC or Google. Cause in the making of the Nexus S video, google said they worked closely with samsung on the design. So if they were displeased it was their own fault not samsung....

Nice one....
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Yea they worked closely in the shape design. The hardware is the failure.
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Newsflash, newer hardware will launch every year...

Thanks captain obvious
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I think it is almost a given that there will be another Nexus phone somewhere down the line, as for the timing who knows? I'd like to see it raising the bar like the original Nexus One when Honeycomb and Gingerbread get merged somehow for whatever version it is. Now that would a true Nexus One successor (not that there is anything wrong with the NS but it wasn't revolutionary more evolutionary) .
Just as a side note when I read the title I thought you meant a Galaxy 3 equivalent :/ like the small underpowered one... my bad good laugh though!
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Google have said that there will be a new "Google Experience" device with every major Android release. Eclair (2.1)/Froyo had the Nexus One, Gingerbread had the Nexus S and Honeycomb has the Xoom.
So expect a new Google device, most likely with Nexus branding, when the "I" version of Android is released.

Ice cream
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Does Nexus S durability last over 2 years?

I'm considering to buy a long lasting phone and Nexus S seem to be good, do you think it will survive over 2 years without casing? I'm good at caring phone, my current Sony Ericsson G900 is already over 2 years old and still functioning perfectly (it looks worn out clearly) and most people who have my phone broke within a year.
Nexus S is going to be my first Android phone, only thing that I don't like that you can't enable or disable flash in camera mode, it will decide if it should flash or not by it own. The design seem awkward but I could handle it.
I'm also considering Incredible S but it doesn't have enough developers and it's still locked, so I guess I should go for Nexus S.
What do you think, will it survive more than 2 years?
White girl said:
I'm considering to buy a long lasting phone and Nexus S seem to be good, do you think it will survive over 2 years without casing? I'm good at caring phone, my current Sony Ericsson G900 is already over 2 years old and still functioning perfectly (it looks worn out clearly) and most people who have my phone broke within a year.
Nexus S is going to be my first Android phone, only thing that I don't like that you can't enable or disable flash in camera mode, it will decide if it should flash or not by it own. The design seem awkward but I could handle it.
I'm also considering Incredible S but it doesn't have enough developers and it's still locked, so I guess I should go for Nexus S.
What do you think, will it survive more than 2 years?
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It probably would if your G900 did.
But the galaxy s II is more durable than both.
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dario3040 said:
It probably would if your G900 did.
But the galaxy s II is more durable than both.
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It depends of what you talking about ? If hardware wise maybe and Evo 3D , htc sensation or SGSII but about updates most likely this one , any phone that is in the market and is a high end device most likely get ice cream(next big update for android) , nexus s most likely get it before anyone else(besides maybe nexus 3) google is trying to get manucfactures to make sure their phones they get updates within 18 months since launch but first they havent sign a form or paper that says they will second they haven't said for how long after google releases the update they need to release it as well so for all I know they could take 6 months( Evo is getting official gingerbread after 6 months, rolling out June 6, and the Evo was one of the best android phones in 2010 and a best carrier phone ) So I would stick with google if you want timely updates , that's one of the reason I got Me a nexus s
He is talking about the phone durability and yes, I would say it should last 2 years. It's made of plastic but it's not poor quality, it's much better then the galaxy S.
Since its a Google phone, you can't go wrong on picking it, it will always have the up-to-date software and will always have developers, even after 3 years (well, unless its about hardware limitation).
Its currently one of the best (if not the best) single core devices on the market, its definitely future proof.
And the camera does have the ability to turn the flash on or off, depending on your preferences.
The design is gorgeous btw, at least I think it is. The curve form is unique and when the display is turned off it looks completely black and clean, I think it looks very elegant.
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He is talking about the phone durability and yes, I would say it should last 2 years. It's made of plastic but it's not poor quality, it's much better then the galaxy S.
Since its a Google phone, you can't go wrong on picking it, it will always have the up-to-date software and will always have developers, even after 3 years (well, unless its about hardware limitation).
Its currently one of the best (if not the best) single core devices on the market, its definitely future proof.
And the camera does have the ability to turn the flash on or off, depending on your preferences.
The design is gorgeous btw, at least I think it is. The curve form is unique and when the display is turned off it looks completely black and clean, I think it looks very elegant.
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Oh ha ha yeah man then you should be good and since it would be hour first android device it would be great for you to see what's android about
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White girl said:
Nexus S is going to be my first Android phone, only thing that I don't like that you can't enable or disable flash in camera mode
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yes you can. i do it almost every day. and btw, the NS is very well built.
Thanks for your responses. Though there's one problem, I live in Moscow, Russia and there is no Google support store or something like that, if I need phone repair, it won't be possible?
Though I never need any repairs in past, so hopefully it will be same for Nexus S.
White girl said:
Thanks for your responses. Though there's one problem, I live in Moscow, Russia and there is no Google support store or something like that, if I need phone repair, it won't be possible?
Though I never need any repairs in past, so hopefully it will be same for Nexus S.
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Don't use your rubles on a nexus s when its going to be outdated in a few months
Or, if you can't wait, then just get the GSII. Its what the nexus s shoulda been lol [just the only major letdown is...Touchwiz :'(] plus its available in the motherland, no?
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A_Flying_Fox said:
Don't use your rubles on a nexus s when its going to be outdated in a few months
Or, if you can't wait, then just get the GSII. Its what the nexus s shoulda been lol [just the only major letdown is...Touchwiz :'(] plus its available in the motherland, no?
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Why the [bleep] do people keep telling me to buy GSII, it's NOWHERE near my price range. Also I don't even want 4.3" in my teenager girl hand.
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White girl said:
Why the **** do people keep telling me to buy GSII, it's NOWHERE near my price range. Also I don't even want 4.3" in my teenager girl hand.
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ха-ха ты смешно .. но NexusS хороший телефон, будете очень счастливы
(sorry, even though im russian, my russian sucks )
If somebody can answer the op's question, I've got a question too. What are the winning numbers for this week's powerball jackpot?
White girl said:
Thanks for your responses. Though there's one problem, I live in Moscow, Russia and there is no Google support store or something like that, if I need phone repair, it won't be possible?
Though I never need any repairs in past, so hopefully it will be same for Nexus S.
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Hi, Samsung handles all the warranty/hardware support for the nexus s, not Google. Only question is if you have access to Samsung support in Russia...?
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PeXda00 said:
Hi, Samsung handles all the warranty/hardware support for the nexus s, not Google. Only question is if you have access to Samsung support in Russia...?
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Alright, and yeah we have Samsung support.
simms22 said:
yes you can. i do it almost every day. and btw, the NS is very well built.
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I wouldn't say its very well built with all the creaking it has lol.
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Vandam500 said:
I wouldn't say its very well built with all the creaking it has lol.
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My NS4G doesn't creak at all. Its very well built.
White girl said:
Why the **** do people keep telling me to buy GSII, it's NOWHERE near my price range. Also I don't even want 4.3" in my teenager girl hand.
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The Nexus S is perfect then.
Its the best single core phone ever made.
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I've owned an HTC hero samsung instinct, HTC ppc6700, etc and the nexus s seems as durable as any of those devices. I still use my ppc6700 on my wlan!
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Vandam500 said:
I wouldn't say its very well built with all the creaking it has lol.
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No way! Galaxy S I9000 creaks like hell, but not the nexus s. It may be made of plastic but it sure has a solid feel.
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I wouldn't say its very well built with all the creaking it has lol.
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really? yours creaks? i havent heard that one before. no creaking here. my only complaint is that id put the volume buttons where the power buttons is, and vice versa. but thats no biggie.
my ns4g feels solid, but to answer your question, YMMV.

No more updates for Galaxy series

I keep hearing that Sammy's perspective is that there is no "financial incentive" to provide updates to old phones. Well here is one. I will never buy another samsung android phone so long as they have this policy. I will also tell everyone who will listen to do the same.
I know that if they do not support devices as recent as the SGS4G, it is only a matter of time before their new devices are unsupported.
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Heh, Raver and I were talking about why they would wind up not giving ICS to the Vibrant and it was for this reason. They're a capitalist company, and updating older phones would not be good for business. People wouldn't have an incentive to upgrade if they got the latest software all the time.
I am a little mad that they're not going to update the T959V to ICS since it falls within the 18 month time window that they're supposed to provide upgrades for. Go figure.
Yeah Sammy really wiped it's ass with the pledge it made to Google about the 18 month window.
Isnt hardware a good incentive to upgrade?
Bumblephuk said:
Isnt hardware a good incentive to upgrade?
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I agree with you. Hardware is a good enough incentive, but samsung is too greedy and cheap to provide the software updates for their older device. The SGS 4G is still relative new too. This is why there are people still buying, using, and praising Apple. Their support and service put samsung to shame.
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Isnt hardware a good incentive to upgrade?
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Upgrades come once every 2 years unless you drop 600 in a phone. The bs is that a new phone with better hardware comes out every 4 months and all other phones no longer get supported due to " hardware" or some crap. The galaxy s3 is coming out in a few months. Wanna bet my galaxy s2 won't be able to run android 5.0 due to hardware limitations. There are phones with weaker specs than my sgs4g that are getting ics. It's corporate greed on Sammy's part really. This is the one area, in my opinion, that apple does right. They support their devices for a good couple years. Samsung could, they just don't.
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hey, remember the 18 month window. Well we should all make a petition about this phone only. And also give a copy to Google.
Well that isn't final news. So lets keep fingers crossed.
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airfluip1 said:
hey, remember the 18 month window. Well we should all make a petition about this phone only. And also give a copy to Google.
Well that isn't final news. So lets keep fingers crossed.
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I read something about an official statement saying Samsung is not going to update
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The sad thing is, by the time to you drop 600 on the latest phone, it's already outdated.
finch8423 said:
The sad thing is, by the time to you drop 600 on the latest phone, it's already outdated.
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Just about.
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http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2012/0...-deliver-value-pack-for-galaxy-s-smartphones/
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Samsung failure to provide future support - opinion
I for one, have always liked Samsung phones, since my Captivate, then Vibrant, when I switched to tmobile, to the SGS4G. It was a blessing to see Gingerbread release and source for the SGS4G. Especially since it is so different from the other Galaxy S cousins. The Vibrant is still waiting for Gingerbread, and they have a petition to hopefully convince Samsung into at least giving a Gingerbread update.
I would be satisfied if they would release their Driver source or at least the driver API and associated libs so we as a community ( or on your own ) can build ICS or any other version for our phones after they drop support.
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I would be satisfied if they would release their Driver source or at least the driver API and associated libs so we as a community ( or on your own ) can build ICS or any other version for our phones after they drop support.
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But we are indeed getting the "value pack" mentioned in the article after all; it should be a nice start, allowing for new features without necessarily offering a full ICS release.
Still, it's frustrating that the Nexus gets the full 4.0 but the Galaxy doesn't.
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But we are indeed getting the "value pack" mentioned in the article after all; it should be a nice start, allowing for new features without necessarily offering a full ICS release.
Still, it's frustrating that the Nexus gets the full 4.0 but the Galaxy doesn't.
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Where'd you read this?
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Where'd you read this?
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I would also like to know this. I have read several articles where Sammy says nothing will be released afterall.
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Saddlebags said:
But we are indeed getting the "value pack" mentioned in the article after all; it should be a nice start, allowing for new features without necessarily offering a full ICS release.
Still, it's frustrating that the Nexus gets the full 4.0 but the Galaxy doesn't.
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They made mention of a value pack, but scrapped the idea 2 days later.
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The nexus line will always get the update first after all base updates comes from google then google will give the source codes to the other company.
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Sammie's loss, 'cause all I can say is, I'm stuck with 14 months left on this contract, and looks like I'm going back to HTC after that.
This also helps me to decide on my new tablet... and the brand won't be Samsung now.
I love my phone ... but I hate Samsung.
They are a bunch of capitalist bastards. I understand that everyone is out to make money, but as it was mentioned, many people have 2 year contracts with their phone company. I for one refuse to pay $600 for a phone. That is utterly ridiculous in my opinion. And personally I know many others who feel the same way ... we wait until our upgrade is available and then upgrade to the best possible option.
For those of us that feel the way that we do, not supporting their older devices just drives a knife between Samsung and us. Whether they support our phone or not... I will have this phone until my contract is up. If Samsung does not support my device I can assure you this will be my last Samsung device that I will ever purchase.
I always found that odd, like simple math escapes the masses or some lol - kats refuse to pay 600 for a phone outright, but those same kats are cool with taking it in the ass for 2 years and paying 2136 in that time frame (basic Tmo 89 a month unlimited/limited plan)
...which means you're paying a **** ton more than 600 for that phone lol
OT;
I completely understand everyone's frustrations with capitalism, but Samsung is no different than any other large or small corporation blatantly raping our asses for cash (car insurance is a great example) - that's what we're all born and bred to do, become consumers, nothing more, nothing less - everyone on this god forsaken planet epitomizes insanity with their 9-5 lives of compliance, mediocrity and consumer slavery, don't do a damn thing about it, but then expect the slave owners to listen when they have a problem with the dirty spoon they're forced to eat with - lol wake the [email protected] up ..meh, better yet, simply continue to live your life in a dream world thinking you're unique and special ..just like everyone else - yeah, it's much easier that way lol - c'est la vie

iOS or Android? I have a definite answer now...

I've never been an Apple 'fan boy', and the only Apple hardware I ever owned was iPhone 4. I bought it in October 2010 because at that time it had the best display on the market (retina). I've always been a big Google fan and always preferred their products (Chrome, Maps, Drive, etc.). A month ago I ported my phone number to a new carrier (Wind Mobile, Canada) with inexpensive unlimited plans. Wind's frequencies (AWS) are not supported by iPhone yet, so I had to buy a new Android phone (Galaxy Nexus). I was really excited to get Android as my experience with Google was excellent so far. I was very happy with iPhone 4 and iOS, and expected Android to be as good if not better than iOS. I rooted my Android right away and installed 4.1.1. Now I'm gonna share my observations:
Hardware: Galaxy Nexus looks and feels really cheap (like kid's toy): plastic is probably the cheapest Samsung was able to find. Touch screen sensitivity is as bad as it gets - often you have to tap 2-3 times to make it work. Hardly any competition to iPhone 4.
Software: buggy and underdeveloped. I can't believe Google actually seriously markets Android which looks and feels like beta version which requires lots of testing before final release. Some bugs are so outrageous, that I doubt if Google bothered to hire QA team at all: for example when I try so send SMS and use my phone book to enter a recipient's phone number, SMS fails cause a phone number entered is missing area code somehow. What the hell? I think it's a bit over the top. Same apps on Android are not as functional, 'nice' and 'smooth' as on iOS. It looks like Android has lots of potential, but now is still in early stages of development. iOS is by far superior in any aspect at the moment: practically bug free and very user friendly.
Verdict: there are rumours that iPhone 5 will support AWS frequencies - if that's the case, I'm gonna dump Android without any regrets. What a shame, Google!
0/10 really bad failtroll. Try harder, make your story more believable and add in some buzzwords for good measure. This hurts to watch. Back in my day, trolling used to mean something.
I got b& at /a/ for sh!tposting ;_;
Funny though you rooted it immediately and flashed a Rom onto your device which you said was 4.1.1 then you proceeded to ***** about the software which apparently wasn't stock Android we have no clue how you screwed up your own device in rooting your phone. Nice try though "Apple fan boy".
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IMO,
Sony makes the best phones as build quality but they're not updating their phones at all, or really late, and they don't put the latest hardware in their phones. (yes other brands usually suck at build quality)
and there is nothing wrong with the Android software,
If Sony makes a Nexus device, that will be the best and the sexiest device out there.
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Funny though you rooted it immediately and flashed a Rom onto your device which you said was 4.1.1 then you proceeded to ***** about the software which apparently wasn't stock Android we have no clue how you screwed up your own device in rooting your phone. Nice try though "Apple fan boy".
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Don't feed the troll. Pic related, what's going to happen.
I got b& at /a/ for sh!tposting ;_;
Well you are running a custom Rom, of course it will be buggy... And unlike iOS that has been the exact same for how many years,android is a developing platform. It has been completely revamped in the last few years.
The custom rom is causing all of your troubles. I have had 3 android phones and I've never had a problem on stock firmware. My rooted Desire died when I clocked it to 2.5Ghz in freezer (motherboard failure), which was MY FAULT. My One V never failed on me and my G1 was live last time I looked at it.
As with build quality - you are blaming the OS? Samsung is plastic galore, why did you pick a galaxy nexus if you want a metal and glass machine? My phone is excellent build quality, cost me 280$ CAD with no contract, it is a middle of the range device - yet it is still an aluminum unibody, and I'm overclocking at 1.5Ghz.
Get a stock android device not made by Samsung and you've got your next iPhone.
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If you look at Android then and now, you will see how much it has changed.
If you look at iOS then and now, you see that nothing has changed. They don't want to add more features which is why it seems so bug free.
Kinda like Olympic gymnastics, you have a higher potential score if you plan on doing more complex moves, but also a bigger chance of making a mistake. But if you choose simple, your potential score is low but you probably won't get many deductions. And guess what? Android is the more complex gymnast that will continue to learn more moves. When it makes a mistake, it trains via an update to fix it.
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jdeoxys said:
Don't feed the troll. Pic related, what's going to happen.
I got b& at /a/ for sh!tposting ;_;
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He isnt even trolling. Just because he doesnt like android.
gagdude said:
If you look at Android then and now, you will see how much it has changed.
If you look at iOS then and now, you see that nothing has changed. They don't want to add more features which is why it seems so bug free.
Kinda like Olympic gymnastics, you have a higher potential score if you plan on doing more complex moves, but also a bigger chance of making a mistake. But if you choose simple, your potential score is low but you probably won't get many deductions. And guess what? Android is the more complex gymnast that will continue to learn more moves. When it makes a mistake, it trains via an update to fix it.
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I think that's one of the best breakdowns I've seen comparing the benefits and cons of both.
That was enjoyable and refreshing to read +1
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I think that's one of the best breakdowns I've seen comparing the benefits and cons of both.
That was enjoyable and refreshing to read +1
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The only unbiased post on here, IMO.
Your gonna get so bored on an iPhone. Within 2 months for sure. Trust me, i had one and here i am back on Android.
>mfw troll thread
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>mfw I doubt myself, maybe just stupid person
>mfw XDA
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>mfw troll thread
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>mfw I doubt myself, maybe just stupid person
>mfw XDA
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Makes no sense...
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Makes no sense...
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mfw = my face when
Basically means my reaction.
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mfw = my face when
Basically means my reaction.
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I knew the first part. But now its clear when you described it the other way. Got it now
The only thing that IOS has over android is an apple on the back. But we prefer the big LTE on our android phones.
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Same here... but in choosing a topic - I was the ultimate apple fan boy... every gadget i had, every udpate i hung for - then a friend introduced me to his Galaxy S3 - wow. I was using a prehistoric phone and OS.
Android the only way to go!
Go stick your nose directly into jobs' crack. Maybe he'll come to life and let you suck his iDildo
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Mozmoz.aly said:
Same here... but in choosing a topic - I was the ultimate apple fan boy... every gadget i had, every udpate i hung for - then a friend introduced me to his Galaxy S3 - wow. I was using a prehistoric phone and OS.
Android the only way to go!
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We'll see once winphone 8 comes out. That actually MIGHT give some competition to android. ios will be left in the dust as usual. Also, are you me? I had the same exact thing happen except with an iphone 4 and a milestone xt720.
I never understood why apple fan boys and android fan boys, couldn't just man up, realize and accept that not everyone in the world has the same preferences as they do. They act as if they own the companies or something. Grow up. They're PHONES. It's not that serious and it shouldn't be to begin with.
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Android 4.2 and 5.0 touch wiz

And the rant begins...
Felt like venting to my fellow XDA members at how utterly ridiculous these lags in updates are.
How on earth does Google release android 4.2 Jelly Bean back in October 2012, and only TWO phones are currently running it?
Is Google being held hostage by each carrier so much to the point of a simple .1 update? What will it take for this nonsense to finally come to an end!?
Not to mention Verizon leaks 4.1.2 out this week and they removed premium suite....what exactly did this update offer?
I cant see a successful future for any of these companies or Google if this cancerous relationship between the OS and Carrier continues much longer.
And supposedly 5.0 key lime pie is coming in May?
What phones will be running 5.0 out of the gates if any? My guess is Galaxy S4 will drop with 4.2 or possibly even 4.1.2
Any thoughts?
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Dude, the tbolt just got ics. We get it when we get it. And I assume it's mostly Verizon's fault.
Hope that didn't come off jerky.
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They do this so you buy the new phones..
like HTC, just released the DNA.. was the flagship for like what a month, now the HTC M7 is the new hot thing and it's what the same exact phone but 4.7' rather than 5'. but it comes with sense 5.0..
thank god for root, other wise we'd be screwed,
yes officially the tbolt just got ICS but theyve been running that stable for some time now.
it's unfortunate, but at least we do have root, and phones like the HTC DNA that get screwed like that will be able to port the M7 sense 5.0 ROM to the DNA.
it is what it is and sucks lol, and I agree with above, it's mostly Verizon
andybones said:
They do this so you buy the new phones..
like HTC, just released the DNA.. was the flagship for like what a month, now the HTC M7 is the new hot thing and it's what the same exact phone but 4.7' rather than 5'. but it comes with sense 5.0..
thank god for root, other wise we'd be screwed,
yes officially the tbolt just got ICS but theyve been running that stable for some time now.
it's unfortunate, but at least we do have root, and phones like the HTC DNA that get screwed like that will be able to port the M7 sense 5.0 ROM to the DNA.
it is what it is and sucks lol, and I agree with above, it's mostly Verizon
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God bless root!
I can't imagine Google is happy that less than 1% of all smart phones world wide are currently running their latest OS.
And I can't agree more.. Verizon is the problem.
I think all signs point to Google getting into the development of hardware... wouldn't it be nice to have a Google android store like Apple has the Apple stores?
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My Xperia play only had a 2.3.4 update for gingerbread while every other Verizon has ics or jb , glad I unlocked and rooted my phone Verizon sux in terms of updates for phones but their coverage is decent
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I Dont get why Google doesn't stand its ground. All phones should be running AOSP. I have actually grown to like touchwiz but if all phones ran AOSP, I bet updates would come quicker. May not be right away for companies like Verizon to add boat, but that's it. There's no standard. While that does add variety and choice, it also adds confusion. People ask me allllll the time about my sgs3, " is that a droid"? So annoying lol
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I Dont get why Google doesn't stand its ground. All phones should be running AOSP. I have actually grown to like touchwiz but if all phones ran AOSP, I bet updates would come quicker. May not be right away for companies like Verizon to add boat, but that's it. There's no standard. While that does add variety and choice, it also adds confusion. People ask me allllll the time about my sgs3, " is that a droid"? So annoying lol
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But then it would just be like a iPhone same thing on different types of phones I personally don't mind all the different types of software which makes phones unique with running android
Btw I hate that too people think Droid and android are two different things. I had an argument with this girl about her wanting a Droid but talking about how android sucks. Lol
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I LOVE touch wiz motion controls and general UI on top of the android OS.
It just kills me that Verizon doesn't at least keep each companies “flagship devices" (ie SGS3) up to date.
It's a big FU to all of us
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Whatever the aosp release is at is basically a beta in everything but name. Its deployed to a small group of rather technical users where issues can be ironed out. Then months later everyone else gets the carrier's and manufacturer's refinements/adulteration of android. And repeat.
If you want to be in he new release club you need a Nexus or phone that's popular but long in the tooth so the hardware is pretty much mastered. If you buy a non nexus phone you sign up knowing full well that you are at the mercy of a 3rd party. This isn't 2010 anymore . the pattern is well established.
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But then it would just be like a iPhone same thing on different types of phones I personally don't mind all the different types of software which makes phones unique with running android
Btw I hate that too people think Droid and android are two different things. I had an argument with this girl about her wanting a Droid but talking about how android sucks. Lol
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haha yeah. I had a girl who wanted a sgs3 but hated droids. I was like um...they're both android phones. I was like "droid" is just a advertising name for a lot verizon phones. Droid is just simply advertisement and basically that's it. Somehow that advertising got everyone thinking its apple, microsoft, blackberry, and "droids" lol
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haha yeah. I had a girl who wanted a sgs3 but hated droids. I was like um...they're both android phones. I was like "droid" is just a advertising name for a lot verizon phones. Droid is just simply advertisement and basically that's it. Somehow that advertising got everyone thinking its apple, microsoft, blackberry, and "droids" lol
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Exactly! Lol
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The x phone will be the first with klp. And if moto is allowed to do anything to that phone and put some gay layout on it because its not a nexus device I will not buy it. I'm sick of Verizon and im leaving them on may 15th. The galaxy nexus was the biggest disappointment in my eyes. (Nexus phone that Verizon withheld every update and various awesome accessories)
At least the s3 wasn't promising continuous updates, wireless docks and so on
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Verizon is a member of the Open Handset Alliance. One of the founding members, I believe...
Hard to believe, based on their behavior.
When the Hell will they get it through their heads that they really don't need to be involved with much? I pay Verizon to provide a network (and ONLY a network), not hold my hand. I mean, really? Could a phone really harm their network if it hadn't passed through their approval and bloatware installation processes?
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There are currently two phones running 4.2, The Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4. Just thought id clarify that.
Honestly I kind of doubt we will see any 4.2 action till way after the release of the S4... if at all.
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There are currently two phones running 4.2, The Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4. Just thought id clarify that.
Honestly I kind of doubt we will see any 4.2 action till way after the release of the S4... if at all.
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Touche.. however I don't believe the Verizon Gnex has been updated yet.. which is RIDICULOUS.
I am almost willing to bet galaxy S4 launches with 4.1.2 premium suite
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There are currently two phones running 4.2, The Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4. Just thought id clarify that..
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My phone is running 4.2
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Touche.. however I don't believe the Verizon Gnex has been updated yet.. which is RIDICULOUS.
I am almost willing to bet galaxy S4 launches with 4.1.2 premium suite
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I'm almost willing to bet it drops with 4.2. I'll give you a breakdown.
Does Google handle the customer service if a Android device has issues? No. Who does? Either the carrier or the manufacturer. That being said, there needs to be documentation of every single little thing done in an update in order for proper support on both ends of distribution. Customer service has to be trained along with tech support and any type of sales person, which takes time and money. On the software side it seems Samsung is pretty solid. We've gone from 4.0.4 to (soon) 4.1.2 with a total of (correct me if I'm wrong) 4 updates and this phone hasn't even been out for a year. When it comes to the "premium suite" did you ever consider the possibility that the test build that we have is simply "bare?". Makes things easier to troubleshoot if you don't pack in every single little feature to begin with.
You have to remember that you don't pay for the updates themselves. Yes, you paid for the phone but when you buy a Windows 8 laptop are you going to get mad because you won't get the next version for free? I don't speak for other manufacturers but have to say Samsung is doing a pretty damn good job with keeping us updated. Sorry, had to rant. Just irritates me.
Oh, and yes, they do it in order to sell more phones. But, can you blame them? Samsung is doing everything they can to stamp Apple out. That means releasing a flagship phone that will be the first of that manufacturer to launch with the newest software version.
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I'm almost willing to bet it drops with 4.2. I'll give you a breakdown.
Does Google handle the customer service if a Android device has issues? No. Who does? Either the carrier or the manufacturer. That being said, there needs to be documentation of every single little thing done in an update in order for proper support on both ends of distribution. Customer service has to be trained along with tech support and any type of sales person, which takes time and money. On the software side it seems Samsung is pretty solid. We've gone from 4.0.4 to (soon) 4.1.2 with a total of (correct me if I'm wrong) 4 updates and this phone hasn't even been out for a year. When it comes to the "premium suite" did you ever consider the possibility that the test build that we have is simply "bare?". Makes things easier to troubleshoot if you don't pack in every single little feature to begin with.
You have to remember that you don't pay for the updates themselves. Yes, you paid for the phone but when you buy a Windows 8 laptop are you going to get mad because you won't get the next version for free? I don't speak for other manufacturers but have to say Samsung is doing a pretty damn good job with keeping us updated. Sorry, had to rant. Just irritates me.
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Don't be sorry. There is some truth in what you have said. Our device has made the jump from ICS to JB which I am very thankful for. Kudos to Samsung there.
My issue is that the S3 and Note 2 are in my opinion the best phones to date... and the carriers are so stupid that they can't communicate with Google and prepare customer service for the release of the new OS on or near its release date... Then Google will announce android 5.0 just as the carriers are getting 4.1.2 or 4.2 .
I understand they want to keep the customers wanting more.... but at some point I feel that Google start developing hardware and move on.
Apparently Samsung has already begun the opposite..
http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-is-working-on-its-own-operating-system
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Don't be sorry. There is some truth in what you have said. Our device has made the jump from ICS to JB which I am very thankful for. Kudos to Samsung there.
My issue is that the S3 and Note 2 are in my opinion the best phones to date... and the carriers are so stupid that they can't communicate with Google and prepare customer service for the release of the new OS on or near its release date... Then Google will announce android 5.0 just as the carriers are getting 4.1.2 or 4.2 .
I understand they want to keep the customers wanting more.... but at some point I feel that Google start developing hardware and move on.
Apparently Samsung has already begun the opposite..
http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-is-working-on-its-own-operating-system
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Haha, yeah. I just didn't want to come across negative. thanks for being understanding. I do understand your frustrations. I don't see 5.0 dropping for awhile. Google said its going to slow down a bit in their releases because Jellybean is beautiful. It brought fluidity to a "fragmented" market and while only two phones officially have 4.2, jellybean is gaining a share of the updates. I think it and ICS almost comprise 50% of the market share for Android versions which is amazing in my opinion.
You know what I'd love? I'd love for the Galaxy S IV to use the new graphine dipped batteries. Can you imagine that with 2gb of RAM and just a revisioned Exynos Quad Core? It could run at a constant 1.0ghz minimum on each core with the screen on so that multitasking would be beautifully smooth and would be easier on battery life since tasks could start and end quickly. But, anyway, If Google is going to go directly into hardware they'd have a good start. I'd love a Nexus phone to rock a MAXX battery and a 1080p AMOLED. If I recall the new AMOLED that will be in the GS4 uses 25% less battery. The combination would be ermahgerd.
Also, didn't Samsung already try another OS? pretty sure Bada didn't do too well lol.
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One can only dream!
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What about the Nexus 6 ?

The Google Nexus 5 came and went, but during the upcoming months, news and actual real information will start to roll in about the new Nexus 6, and I would like to start a thread about this information.... Rumors, thoughts, even your own personal ideas, or even inside information would be welcome....
cjegan2008 said:
The Google Nexus 5 came and went, but during the upcoming months, news and actual real information will start to roll in about the new Nexus 6, and I would like to start a thread about this information.... Rumors, thoughts, even your own personal ideas, or even inside information would be welcome....
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This is very very early to post a thread like this, the new one will take at least 8-9 months to be released. Any news now or within 6-7 months is just rumor and speculation
What about the nexus 7?
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got it
Ben36 said:
What about the nexus 7?
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I already got one :silly:
roygaard said:
I already got one :silly:
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Amazing, now all we need is a Nexus 10 and my mind is blown
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too soon junior
If Google releases a phone, it's usually at the end of the year.
Who cares? Id still be using my Nexus 4 if it had LTE Phones have reached a point where they don't need to be better. It's just a P. ssing contest. The 5 is ideal with a good kernel. Some are never happy. Reading technology sites is to blame. They hype something up for 6months then forget and want the next as their sad jobs need news. Oh and it helps make pple insecure for the oems
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Who cares? Id still be using my Nexus 4 if it had LTE Phones have reached a point where they don't need to be better. It's just a P. ssing contest. The 5 is ideal with a good kernel. Some are never happy. Reading technology sites is to blame. They hype something up for 6months then forget and want the next as their sad jobs need news. Oh and it helps make pple insecure for the oems
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So true! All research and development needs to halt at this very moment! Technology does not need to improve, what we have now is good enough!
Said no one ever.
howard bamber said:
Who cares? Id still be using my Nexus 4 if it had LTE Phones have reached a point where they don't need to be better. It's just a P. ssing contest. The 5 is ideal with a good kernel. Some are never happy. Reading technology sites is to blame. They hype something up for 6months then forget and want the next as their sad jobs need news. Oh and it helps make pple insecure for the oems
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True. Although for me I just want something new and shiny because I get bored. Arguably I didn't need to upgrade from my S3 but I wanted to. That said, it's not like I am looking for my next handset yet. Loads of life in my 5 left over.
I always get a little jealous when a couple of newer phones than mine have come out/are coming out. I have no desire whatsoever for a Galaxy S4 or HTC One M8, but the Sony Z2 is shaping up to make me a bit envious. Ultimately though I know my N5 is going to give me a far easier ride when it comes to modding it, stuff just works properly on it.
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I always get a little jealous when a couple of newer phones than mine have come out/are coming out. I have no desire whatsoever for a Galaxy S4 or HTC One M8, but the Sony Z2 is shaping up to make me a bit envious. Ultimately though I know my N5 is going to give me a far easier ride when it comes to modding it, stuff just works properly on it.
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That there. That is why I buy nexus devices. You don't have to jump though hoops to modify it. I had an HTC one before this and you had to go through HTC dev and then gain s off and everything else. Heaven forbid if you need to go back to stock for repair purposes. Pain in the ass.
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This is very very early to post a thread like this, the new one will take at least 8-9 months to be released. Any news now or within 6-7 months is just rumor and speculation
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True, however it would be nice to see what the devs would like to see on their upcoming phone....and from the latest news, it looks like the Nexus 6 is going to be announced at the end of july. Not to mention, more than likely, with iPhone 6 and the Samsung Galaxy s5 about to hit in mid-end of April, Google will want to release something to compete with the hype. Every article I read stated it would at least have a 2k video display and would follow the lines of the nexus 5 with the upcoming LG G3...so another clone from what I understand, and if that's the case, it looks pretty promising.
If you want to continue this discussion, please use the existing thread HERE.
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