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New iPad in the house

My wife has never embraced anything in the technological realm but when all her girlfriends started getting iPads, she felt like she was missing something and decided to climb on board. I actually encouraged this because I knew that she would become addicted to the usefulness of a tablet in very short time. That would bring an end to the evil looks I get every time I pick up a new toy such as my GTab.
We picked up the New iPad today. I compared it side by side to the iPad 2 and while the screen was better, I did not see a huge improvement in everyday usage. Sure, movies and photos looked a little better but all the other apps displayed about the same to me.
This is our family's first iPad so a lot of this stuff is new to me. On the negetive side, it is clear that the closed environment that defines Apple makes things a lot less fun and can be limiting, On the other hand, I have to admit that this thing is smooth as silk. Even better, it integrates with other Apple devices easily and seamlessly. We both have iPhones so sending free texts and making Facetime video phone call between the phones and the iPad is really easy and fun. I did not realize that you could make free video calls between Apple devices without using any 3G data as long as both devices are hooked up to WIFI. Very cool.
It will be a while before I can provide a real comparison between the New iPad and my GT 10.1 but I do have some first impressions. One thing that Apple has always been able to provide is a useful device that simply works... period. The new iPad is no exception.
On the other hand, some of the apps that I rely on all the time, such as a GPS app that does not require a 3G connection, are not currently available for the iPad. If you have a WIFI only device and cannot use it as a GPS, that is a big negetive.
Also on the negetive side is how the New iPad heats up while in use. This device will absolutely require a case on the back side to dissipate the heat. It is unclear to me at this point if the different form factor will produce a less enjoyable viewing experience for movies and for reading ebooks but the shape is certainly something that sets the iPad apart from the GTab.
More later.
Bob

no SIRI on ipad3 either.
How stupid
Apple does SUCH a good job at building the hardware & providing software updates. But sucks in terms of OPEN-ness.
Samsung cant even get ANYONE ICS. phone or pad. its turning into a giant joke

I've had a few mobile Apple devices before, and they are indeed smooth as silk. I personally wish Android was just as smooth, not because I care, but because that's how average users judge a device. (not really sure why)
In my opinion much more people would choose Android over Apple if the animations were stripped out, and they made their decision purely based on the features given. The only thing I ever liked about Apple was how you could keep your devices in sync, but now that Google Play is out Google gains a win in that category as well. (keep in mind I hate iTunes, it's a POS on Windows)
iPads are pretty entertaining though, I've seen some people pick them up just so they can swipe between homescreens. lol

Umm, maybe post this in an Apple forum?
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Umm, maybe post this in an Apple forum?
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I think you missed the point. I love my GTab and now have the new iPad to compare it to. There is lots to like about the new iPad but I am keeping my GTab. This is just an educational post.
Bob

We don't have an Apple forum
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dsafety said:
I think you missed the point. I love my GTab and now have the new iPad to compare it to. There is lots to like about the new iPad but I am keeping my GTab. This is just an educational post.
Bob
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I had been wondering how it'd compare... Thanks for the thread.
Just curious, how does the 10.1 display fare against the "revolutionary" ipad3 display?
ICS will soon be rolling out for the 10.1 and it will be as smooth as butter~
Currently running ICS on my GS2, it is amazing - as smooth as IOS but alot faster!
Currently on the 10.1v which is running on normal TFT LCD, im thinking of comparing it with the the 10.1 PLS/IPS LCDs... it's a great tab but i just feel deprived of pretty colours...

Thanks for the comparison. Apple makes good products, and they certainly have the marketing down.
I thought this was kind of funny.
http://gizmodo.com/5894094/we-people-an-ipad-2-told-them-it-was-the-new-ipad-and-they-loved-it

SnowWaltz said:
I had been wondering how it'd compare... Thanks for the thread.
Just curious, how does the 10.1 display fare against the "revolutionary" ipad3 display?
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I know that the iPad screen is better but the GTab is still pretty darn good. Based on my observations, the GTab screen is probably somewhere between the older and new iPad. Please keep in mind that there is no noticeable difference until you get into viewing photos or high-def movies.
If it were me, I would not have spent the extra money for the New Ipad, choosing instead to pick up a discounted older model if I had to have an iPad. I cannot see much difference between the new one and the iPad 2.With my wife, there is the "Coolness" factor to be considered so that is the direction we went.
Those of us who have gotten used to the freedom that rooted Android tablets offer can sit back and smile knowingly when the iPad fanboys and girls go all giggly about this new version. While I was forking over $540 for my wife's new toy, I asked the very helpful girl at the Apple store if there was an app for the iPad that would turn it into a GPS device that would work when not connected to WIFI or 3G. She said no and then gave me an incredulous look when I showed her the CoPilot app running on my GTab.
Apple products are great but it would be a mistake to make the assumption that they are always better than the competition. If my wife asked me to trade my GTab for her new iPad, I would have to turn her down.
Just one guy's opinion.
Bob

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I know that the iPad screen is better but the GTab is still pretty darn good. Based on my observations, the GTab screen is probably somewhere between the older and new iPad. Please keep in mind that there is no noticeable difference until you get into viewing photos or high-def movies.
If it were me, I would not have spent the extra money for the New Ipad, choosing instead to pick up a discounted older model if I had to have an iPad. I cannot see much difference between the new one and the iPad 2.With my wife, there is the "Coolness" factor to be considered so that is the direction we went.
Those of us who have gotten used to the freedom that rooted Android tablets offer can sit back and smile knowingly when the iPad fanboys and girls go all giggly about this new version. While I was forking over $540 for my wife's new toy, I asked the very helpful girl at the Apple store if there was an app for the iPad that would turn it into a GPS device that would work when not connected to WIFI or 3G. She said no and then gave me an incredulous look when I showed her the CoPilot app running on my GTab.
Apple products are great but it would be a mistake to make the assumption that they are always better than the competition. If my wife asked me to trade my GTab for her new iPad, I would have to turn her down.
Just one guy's opinion.
Bob
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Funny u say that
Cos im considering selling my gtab for the ipad 3 :L and yes i have tried ics on the tab, and yes its pretty awesome. But i prefer the ipads web browsing and screen. :L
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I've got a Gtab and got the new iPad on order I'll get it on Tuesday will post my thoughts on it as well later next week.
As much as I adore my Gtab its the lack of quality tablet apps presently on android that let's it down, the openness of Android is far superior than the closed eco system of iOS but jailbreaking it allows some extra useful tweaks, had an iPod touch before and jailbreaking it opened it up a little with customisation of icons and such.
Running aokp on the Gtab and it flies!
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nikzDHD said:
I've got a Gtab and got the new iPad on order I'll get it on Tuesday will post my thoughts on it as well later next week.
As much as I adore my Gtab its the lack of quality tablet apps presently on android that let's it down, the openness of Android is far superior than the closed eco system of iOS but jailbreaking it allows some extra useful tweaks, had an iPod touch before and jailbreaking it opened it up a little with customisation of icons and such.
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Agreed
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nikzDHD said:
I've got a Gtab and got the new iPad on order I'll get it on Tuesday will post my thoughts on it as well later next week.
As much as I adore my Gtab its the lack of quality tablet apps presently on android that let's it down, the openness of Android is far superior than the closed eco system of iOS but jailbreaking it allows some extra useful tweaks, had an iPod touch before and jailbreaking it opened it up a little with customisation of icons and such.
Running aokp on the Gtab and it flies!
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Agreed
This is tempting me to an ipad aswell. Also the screen ofc
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adamski123 said:
Agreed
This is tempting me to an ipad aswell. Also the screen ofc
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If you've got Tesco credit card you can get it for 6 months interest free, done mine that way so I can always flog it in a few months and get most my money back if I get bored of it.
Will have a good play one of them will be sold either the iPad or the Gtab. I've always been a fan of Apple products as well as Android love my SGS2 and will never get an iPhone.
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nikzDHD said:
If you've got Tesco credit card you can get it for 6 months interest free, done mine that way so I can always flog it in a few months and get most my money back if I get bored of it.
Will have a good play one of them will be sold either the iPad or the Gtab. I've always been a fan of Apple products as well as Android love my SGS2 and will never get an iPhone.
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Ooh that sounds tempting. Its just getting a gd enough price for my gtab off ebay :L
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nikzDHD said:
If you've got Tesco credit card you can get it for 6 months interest free, done mine that way so I can always flog it in a few months and get most my money back if I get bored of it.
Will have a good play one of them will be sold either the iPad or the Gtab. I've always been a fan of Apple products as well as Android love my SGS2 and will never get an iPhone.
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But yeh gimme ur thoughts.
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adamski123 said:
But yeh gimme ur thoughts.
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Will do fella, eagerly awaiting a jailbreak to unlock its full potential don't think it's too far away though.
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androids dead.. wait a minute

http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/20...com/2012/05/android/androids-minute-wait-dead.
Hope the link works. In before this is old news noob search first.
Tldr: android holds 51% of all smart phones in use. Apple 30%

I feel like this 'majority' share type story has been published over and over.
Also one company with 30% of market share probably is > than many companies with 51%. Maybe a big one like Samsung has 30% of that 51%?

whosgotlag said:
I feel like this 'majority' share type story has been published over and over.
Also one company with 30% of market share probably is > than many companies with 51%. Maybe a big one like Samsung has 30% of that 51%?
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If other companies were allowed to release ios devices I dony doubt the number being higher. I guess iPhone users were going around saying iPhone has sold more numbers and theres more iPhones being used than and how android has slowed down in sales due to the new iPhone.
It was more an article that says android is more popular than iPhone in terms of the number of users than anything.

Its because android runs on so many price brackets its available to everyone from low end to way above anything iPhone could ever be android is a platform for everyone and I love it that way
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I wonder if that guy had both a Lumina and an iPhone in his ass to assist typing that article.

Lots of different stories on this today, but beyond the Android dominance is Samsung kicking ass in general.
"Samsung now sells one in four US smart phones" : http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2012/05/02/prweb9467359.DTL
Not far behind Apple, and when you factor in that at least 26% of the parts used in making iPhones are made by Samsung, guess who's really at the top...
Love Sammy. May the ass kicking continue!
Sammy makes the best devices...
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Sammy makes the best devices...
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And TV's

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And TV's
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And fridges... I like their fridges

Let's tell it how it is. Neither android or iPhone are going anywhere and are making stupid amounts of money off of us.
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How the world turns. I remember when i see samsung products at kmart as the el cheapo brand 15 years ago. And now they are bigger than Sony.

true all true. If you look at the big picture, iPhone has integrated most media devices to work cohesively, syncing all with that wretched iTunes. Samsung has gone a drop further and integrated Android or Android compatible software into everything they sell: washer/dryer, fridge, camera, windows (the kind you look through), phones, tablets, printers, etc. Samsung wants to be a powerhouse, quite literally. I really do think this step is a well thought out program.
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true all true. If you look at the big picture, iPhone has integrated most media devices to work cohesively, syncing all with that wretched iTunes. Samsung has gone a drop further and integrated Android or Android compatible software into everything they sell: washer/dryer, fridge, camera, windows (the kind you look through), phones, tablets, printers, etc. Samsung wants to be a powerhouse, quite literally. I really do think this step is a well thought out program.
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Man, I hate itunes! Worst thing, ever!

Apple is doing great business. Brainwash users to believe that cheaper smaller screens is what they want and that they should pay a premium price. And that not having Flash, external memory card slot is something in their best interest. Never mind the fact that people still use flash on their computer browsers on the average a dozen times a day. And if they had a memory card slot, they would probably have a memory card in there. Point out something Apple is doing to rip off their customers, and the customers who are being taken advantage of are on the side of Apple.
How hard can Apple squeeze the teets of their users until they say uncle?

xcrazydx said:
Man, I hate itunes! Worst thing, ever!
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Me too! Itunes is a total crapfest!

Lucidmike said:
Apple is doing great business. Brainwash users to believe that cheaper smaller screens is what they want and that they should pay a premium price. And that not having Flash, external memory card slot is something in their best interest. Never mind the fact that people still use flash on their computer browsers on the average a dozen times a day. And if they had a memory card slot, they would probably have a memory card in there. Point out something Apple is doing to rip off their customers, and the customers who are being taken advantage of are on the side of Apple.
How hard can Apple squeeze the teets of their users until they say uncle?
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Actually I gotta thank apple for not including flash. It really is finally dying to html5 and that is a GREAT thing. I don't think people realize how many flash like elements are not actually flash anymore. HTML5 is all over the place now. Apple and facebook have been the main reason for flash to die
I do find it funny that most of your issues with iPhones are now the "big thing" with newer androids.
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I feel like this 'majority' share type story has been published over and over.
Also one company with 30% of market share probably is > than many companies with 51%. Maybe a big one like Samsung has 30% of that 51%?
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I have read this week that apple sold 35 million phone in Q1 2012 and samsung 41 million in Q1 2012.
Ok samsung has tons of different phone but they still kicking ass right now. And when the S3 come out sale will probably explode... same thing for the next iphone ... lets see how it goes.

I think the title should read everything but android and iPhone is dead. Which is true I think
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Apple is 1 company, android is a ****load of companies, realistically they should be doing better than one company anyways.
What we need is a good profit graph that shows what platform is actually generating money because that's the one which will be around the longest.
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Maybe you mean iOS versus android. But to compare HTC Samsung, Motorola, lg, etc, I think all those companies combined will outweigh apple in sales dramatically. So how do you really measure apple versus android in sales?
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occupational_hazard said:
Maybe you mean iOS versus android. But to compare HTC Samsung, Motorola, lg, etc, I think all those companies combined will outweigh apple in sales dramatically. So how do you really measure apple versus android in sales?
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Percentage of retention would probably be the most accurate mark of who is doing best. How many Droid users stay on Droid and how many switch to iPhone. And same on the other side. Higher retention is really who is winning. I know about a year and a half ago an article I read said at the time apple had a higher rentention than Droid.
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iOS 6 (lol...)

Anyone see the new and fantastic features they've added in iOS 6?
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_...etime-ios-6-hits-major-marks/?tag=epicStories
They have this cool new feature where you can do voice guided turn by turn directions! And you can reply to incoming calls with a text message! Siri can answer questions about sports now too
Sorry guys Android doesn't cut it for me anymore

Does it still have "the three gees and the wifis?"
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Looks like iOS is trying to catch up to android. Good luck though. Do the iturds support flash yet? Haha also their OS is becoming just as fragmented as Android, now CRApple really has no room to talk!
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strapped365 said:
Looks like iOS is trying to catch up to android. Good luck though. Do the iturds support flash yet? Haha also their OS is becoming just as fragmented as Android, now CRApple really has no room to talk!
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It kinda sucks how much they're undercutting their iPhone 4 buyers. No siri AND NOW no navigation.
I mean, we usually don't get updates at all, but most of these features were already available on froyo and gingerbread.
Speaking of fragmentation...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31322_3-5...fragmenting-the-iphone/?tag=mncol;latestPosts
For Apple, it's just not labeled fragmentation. Simply giving out watered down "updates" instead is ok
At least if/when we get a new OS to install we get all the features working. Not some half assed update like Apple is pushing out
And then people wonder why I'm an Android fanboy. How Apple does things and still makes serious $$$ is completely beyond me. And I find it outrageous that people still prefer them when android is CLEARLY better

gtmaster303 said:
It kinda sucks how much they're undercutting their iPhone 4 buyers. No siri AND NOW no navigation.
I mean, we usually don't get updates at all, but most of these features were already available on froyo and gingerbread.
Speaking of fragmentation...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31322_3-5...fragmenting-the-iphone/?tag=mncol;latestPosts
For Apple, it's just not labeled fragmentation. Simply giving out watered down "updates" instead is ok
At least if/when we get a new OS to install we get all the features working. Not some half assed update like Apple is pushing out
And then people wonder why I'm an Android fanboy. How Apple does things and still makes serious $$$ is completely beyond me. And I find it outrageous that people still prefer them when android is CLEARLY better
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Apple sold its soul to the devil hahaha that's how their making money.gonna give that link a read now because CRApple used to always say well androids to fragmented and blah blah blah. Now look....
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Can tell that was written by a fanboy lmfao. We can't force google or our carrier to update? Well I'm running ICS thanks to tbalden and kornyone so who the F needs a carrier to pack the ROM full of useless features? We just need googles open source code which they give us all the time, I mean all these Android ROMS are coming from somewhere right? Haha I'm very ashamed to even own an Apple device. It serves 1 purpose= facetime with my 2 year old daughter. No music because it sucks that bad, no apps because it sucks that bad I could go on about it but nah I gotta go replace the starter on a Dart which should be a lot more fun than downing crApple
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I'm shocked the 3Gs is updated :T iOS is ok if you don't like rooting, and happiness. Suckass, its all the same old stuff. I'll put iOS 6 on my 3Gs when the Dev releases become public.
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I'm shocked the 3Gs is updated :T iOS is ok if you don't like rooting, and happiness. Suckass, its all the same old stuff. I'll put iOS 6 on my 3Gs when the Dev releases become public.
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Let's not forget the sites you have to pay for to jailbreak them hunks of junk. Yes I know there are free ways but they come out a long while after the paid ones in some cases.
Also is the A5 dual core jailbreakable yet?
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The iphone. Is not that bad
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wiswis said:
The iphone. Is not that bad
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Eh, you're entitled to an opinion I suppose...
This thread was simply made to poke fun at Apple
And rant a little. End rant and troll

gtmaster303 said:
Eh, you're entitled to an opinion I suppose...
This thread was simply made to poke a fun at Apple
And rant a little. End rant and troll
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Its actually a sick design but apple ****ed it up with ios
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wiswis said:
Its actually a sick design but apple ****ed it up with ios
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What do you find sick about a 4 button phone when 3 of the 4 buttons are power, volume up and volume down? None of which give you any navigation. I wouldn't even run Android on a iDevice if it were possible.
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strapped365 said:
What do you find sick about a 4 button phone when 3 of the 4 buttons are power, volume up and volume down? None of which give you any navigation. I wouldn't even run Android on a iDevice if it were possible.
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Ur kidding, the iphone is one of the sexiest phones in the world (for me)
I would run android on it if I could but the home button looks ****ty it should have the four buttons like android, lmao that would be my dreamphone
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Whoa, Steve Jobs is turning in his grave right now...LOL! I doubt this would've happened had he still been alive. And all this innovation...it just came out of thin air! The only thing I give the Crapple is that the phone is fast, aside from that, I can't be bothered with it.
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I would run android on it if I could but the home button looks ****ty it should have the four buttons like android, lmao that would be my dreamphone
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You can get phones like that from Japan,Hong Kong on eBay...tho I wouldn't chance it. What you're basically asking for tho...is...an android phone...?

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Let's not forget the sites you have to pay for to jailbreak them hunks of junk. Yes I know there are free ways but they come out a long while after the paid ones in some cases.
Also is the A5 dual core jailbreakable yet?
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You never have to pay, not at all. That's the whole flow of Jailbreaking. Even the webhost is a 100% free, with no Ads host. If I ever had to pay to Jailbreak I knew it was 100% BS. Some claimed to have the latest JB, but it wouldn't be a "Jailbreak". Either a ****lyfft instal of Cydia, with no substrate add on's. Or it'd be a waiting list thing for an available "JB server". Then you'd just wait until the JB team released it, and the server would "Open". Paying 50+ bucks for freeware.
Also, iPhone 4s 5.1.1 has an Untethered Jailbreak. It just came out, I still think only the 1st gen iPad has a Jailbreak too.
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Whoa, Steve Jobs is turning in his grave right now...LOL! I doubt this would've happened had he still been alive. And all this innovation...it just came out of thin air! The only thing I give the Crapple is that the phone is fast, aside from that, I can't be bothered with it.
You can get phones like that from Japan,Hong Kong on eBay...tho I wouldn't chance it. What you're basically asking for tho...is...an android phone...?
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well I wish an android has the form factor of a iphone
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gtmaster303 said:
And then people wonder why I'm an Android fanboy. How Apple does things and still makes serious $$$ is completely beyond me. And I find it outrageous that people still prefer them when android is CLEARLY better
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"People" (the dumb 70-80% of population) don't want better, they want WHAT THEY SEE ON TV (aka what they have been brainwashed to buy).
Better advertised devices always sell better. It has been proven long time ago before tv existed.
An observation we have "conducted" not long ago in my personal circle of friends and coworkers:
none of those who don't watch TV have any iCrap, while about half of those who watch TV regularily have chosen iFail and other crApple products.

MT4GS said:
"People" (the dumb 70-80% of population) don't want better, they want WHAT THEY SEE ON TV (aka what they have been brainwashed to buy).
Better advertised devices always sell better. It has been proven long time ago before tv existed.
An observation we have "conducted" not long ago in my personal circle of friends and coworkers:
none of those who don't watch TV have any iCrap, while about half of those who watch TV regularily have chosen iFail and other crApple products.
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Youre right everyone who i no who has an iphone is dumb and lazy
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wiswis said:
Youre right everyone who i no who has an iphone is dumb and lazy
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*You're *I *Know
Watch how you type when you call someone dumb

wiswis said:
Youre right everyone who i no who has an iphone is dumb and lazy
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My girlfriend's about to become a doctor, and she's got an iPhone and a Macbook Pro...

monkor said:
My girlfriend's about to become a doctor, and she's got an iPhone and a Macbook Pro...
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lol you know what he mean't. All iphone users are Dumb and Lazy because they chose not to do a good search on whether android or Iphones were better. Instead your girlfriend just went with all the hype and sold her soul to Apple. Congratulations!
BTW: You also have to live under this extensive list of rules.

Might trade my SGS3 for an LG Intuition, bad idea?

So im in the talks of trading my SGS3 for an Intuition. I'm curious to see how that phone would be on a daily basis. But im afraid I'll regret the decision. I know this forum will be based. But im reaching out to my fellow XDA addicts for their input.
Let me know what you think about it.
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To each is own, but I'd prefer the s3.
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I've really been looking at doing the same. It's hard to get decent opinions because most people say it's bad but have never even seen one irl. One of the big problems I have is it will probably never see a custom rom besides root. It's also a rather old phone but it can still play pretty much any game and handle anything. I played with one at verizon and it had some lag but I'm not sure if it's the launcher or not. Kinda bugs me also because I know I'll lose the stylus and it's just a normal stylus you can buy off amazon for like $2 (nothing like a s pen). I will probably buy one to try it, I can see myself possibly loving it or totally hating it, I doubt there a a middle ground.
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I've really been looking at doing the same. It's hard to get decent opinions because most people say it's bad but have never even seen one irl. One of the big problems I have is it will probably never see a custom rom besides root. It's also a rather old phone but it can still play pretty much any game and handle anything. I played with one at verizon and it had some lag but I'm not sure if it's the launcher or not. Kinda bugs me also because I know I'll lose the stylus and it's just a normal stylus you can buy off amazon for like $2 (nothing like a s pen). I will probably buy one to try it, I can see myself possibly loving it or totally hating it, I doubt there a a middle ground.
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Same here. I've only played with one in verizon. I'm just afraid of the width hindering it in my daily use. That includes fitting comfortably in my back pocket.
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That would be like taking 4 steps forward then 6 steps back!

g.davis17 said:
Same here. I've only played with one in verizon. I'm just afraid of the width hindering it in my daily use. That includes fitting comfortably in my back pocket.
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Who keeps their phone in their back pocket...trololol. That's where my mom puts her phone. She's dropped three in the toilet and sat on two others and still hasn't learned.
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Who keeps their phone in their back pocket...trololol. That's where my mom puts her phone. She's dropped three in the toilet and sat on two others and still hasn't learned.
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Well I've never broken a phone and I've always done that since my first smartphone. The Palm Treo 755p. Lol. I'm more careful with my phones and now that phones are getting bigger and bigger you don't feel them as much when you carry them in the back pocket because it just feels like a wallet or something.
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If you're into getting a bigger phone, I would hold for the Galaxy Note II. It's coming to Verizon, and is likely to see custom roms. I highly doubt the Intuition will see much. The phone seems solid, but LG has lately had problems with keeping up on Android updates (I'm looking at you, Spectrum). Samsung, while not perfect, shows more promise in rolling out updates.

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If you're into getting a bigger phone, I would hold for the Galaxy Note II. It's coming to Verizon, and is likely to see custom roms. I highly doubt the Intuition will see much. The phone seems solid, but LG has lately had problems with keeping up on Android updates (I'm looking at you, Spectrum). Samsung, while not perfect, shows more promise in rolling out updates.
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Yea I'm really thinking about the note 2 as well but the format of the intuition makes it awesome for emails, Internet, pdfs ect. The only only place it lacks is watching videos, and it's S3 cpu which is like 2 years old already I just ask myself how often do I watch videos on my phone, not a ton how often do I email look up things on the Web? Probably 200+ times a day.
I probably still won't get it but I'd love to see them make one (and release it in the us) with better specs and fore thought across the board and I'd be on it
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That would be like taking 4 steps forward then 6 steps back!
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THANK YOU! At least one person said it.... If you cannot do anything to a phone besides rooting it then it won't be in my hands.... I have to have full control so I can optimize every aspect of my phone cause we all know the manufacturers won't and Verizon DEFINITELY won't! The LG is a pretty giant leap back so I would wait for the Note 2 or the possibility of another Nexus device but def do not go backwards... (Just my opinion)

If you don't really care about ever using a custom ROM then go ahead. Otherwise I believe the SGS3 has it beat in every category.

I wouldn't. The single biggest problem with the phone is the aspect ratio. Every single review points out how awkward the phone is with a 4:3 ratio.

I would NOT do it.
If you want a phablet, wait for the Note 2. I highly doubt many devs will work on the intuition. You'd get better development off the droid x2.
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Battery life is dismal on the intuition also. Wait for note2.
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Is LG considered a top brand now like Samsung or HTC, or are they still playing around in Huwai level standards?
What are their flagship devices - are they still just knock-offs of font runners or do they have their own developments as contenders?

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Is LG considered a top brand now like Samsung or HTC, or are they still playing around in Huwai level standards?
What are their flagship devices - are they still just knock-offs of font runners or do they have their own e
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I personally consider HTC, Samsung, and Moto on top Tier (for phones) and everything else way below on the DO NOT EVER BUY list

I can't say I have ever heard of someone satisfied with an lg phone.
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Well, looks like people will have to reconsider seeing as the next Nexus is made by LG.
Samsung Galaxy S3

Intuition has terrible battery life and an even worse camera. I do like the design but there's absolutely no way I'd trade my S3 for one. I'm also waiting on a phablet worthy of ditching my S3. Going to be the Note II probably. Not to mention Samsung has a ton of great tablet/s-pen features that can't be found elsewhere. One last thing is the stylus has no built in holder. You have to carry it separately. Deal breaker right there for me.

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Well, looks like people will have to reconsider seeing as the next Nexus is made by LG.
Samsung Galaxy S3
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I forsee alot of people not getting the next nexus if thats the case.

Android 4.2 and 5.0 touch wiz

And the rant begins...
Felt like venting to my fellow XDA members at how utterly ridiculous these lags in updates are.
How on earth does Google release android 4.2 Jelly Bean back in October 2012, and only TWO phones are currently running it?
Is Google being held hostage by each carrier so much to the point of a simple .1 update? What will it take for this nonsense to finally come to an end!?
Not to mention Verizon leaks 4.1.2 out this week and they removed premium suite....what exactly did this update offer?
I cant see a successful future for any of these companies or Google if this cancerous relationship between the OS and Carrier continues much longer.
And supposedly 5.0 key lime pie is coming in May?
What phones will be running 5.0 out of the gates if any? My guess is Galaxy S4 will drop with 4.2 or possibly even 4.1.2
Any thoughts?
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Dude, the tbolt just got ics. We get it when we get it. And I assume it's mostly Verizon's fault.
Hope that didn't come off jerky.
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They do this so you buy the new phones..
like HTC, just released the DNA.. was the flagship for like what a month, now the HTC M7 is the new hot thing and it's what the same exact phone but 4.7' rather than 5'. but it comes with sense 5.0..
thank god for root, other wise we'd be screwed,
yes officially the tbolt just got ICS but theyve been running that stable for some time now.
it's unfortunate, but at least we do have root, and phones like the HTC DNA that get screwed like that will be able to port the M7 sense 5.0 ROM to the DNA.
it is what it is and sucks lol, and I agree with above, it's mostly Verizon

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They do this so you buy the new phones..
like HTC, just released the DNA.. was the flagship for like what a month, now the HTC M7 is the new hot thing and it's what the same exact phone but 4.7' rather than 5'. but it comes with sense 5.0..
thank god for root, other wise we'd be screwed,
yes officially the tbolt just got ICS but theyve been running that stable for some time now.
it's unfortunate, but at least we do have root, and phones like the HTC DNA that get screwed like that will be able to port the M7 sense 5.0 ROM to the DNA.
it is what it is and sucks lol, and I agree with above, it's mostly Verizon
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God bless root!
I can't imagine Google is happy that less than 1% of all smart phones world wide are currently running their latest OS.
And I can't agree more.. Verizon is the problem.
I think all signs point to Google getting into the development of hardware... wouldn't it be nice to have a Google android store like Apple has the Apple stores?
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My Xperia play only had a 2.3.4 update for gingerbread while every other Verizon has ics or jb , glad I unlocked and rooted my phone Verizon sux in terms of updates for phones but their coverage is decent
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I Dont get why Google doesn't stand its ground. All phones should be running AOSP. I have actually grown to like touchwiz but if all phones ran AOSP, I bet updates would come quicker. May not be right away for companies like Verizon to add boat, but that's it. There's no standard. While that does add variety and choice, it also adds confusion. People ask me allllll the time about my sgs3, " is that a droid"? So annoying lol
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I Dont get why Google doesn't stand its ground. All phones should be running AOSP. I have actually grown to like touchwiz but if all phones ran AOSP, I bet updates would come quicker. May not be right away for companies like Verizon to add boat, but that's it. There's no standard. While that does add variety and choice, it also adds confusion. People ask me allllll the time about my sgs3, " is that a droid"? So annoying lol
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But then it would just be like a iPhone same thing on different types of phones I personally don't mind all the different types of software which makes phones unique with running android
Btw I hate that too people think Droid and android are two different things. I had an argument with this girl about her wanting a Droid but talking about how android sucks. Lol
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I LOVE touch wiz motion controls and general UI on top of the android OS.
It just kills me that Verizon doesn't at least keep each companies “flagship devices" (ie SGS3) up to date.
It's a big FU to all of us
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Whatever the aosp release is at is basically a beta in everything but name. Its deployed to a small group of rather technical users where issues can be ironed out. Then months later everyone else gets the carrier's and manufacturer's refinements/adulteration of android. And repeat.
If you want to be in he new release club you need a Nexus or phone that's popular but long in the tooth so the hardware is pretty much mastered. If you buy a non nexus phone you sign up knowing full well that you are at the mercy of a 3rd party. This isn't 2010 anymore . the pattern is well established.
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GoonAssJuan said:
But then it would just be like a iPhone same thing on different types of phones I personally don't mind all the different types of software which makes phones unique with running android
Btw I hate that too people think Droid and android are two different things. I had an argument with this girl about her wanting a Droid but talking about how android sucks. Lol
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haha yeah. I had a girl who wanted a sgs3 but hated droids. I was like um...they're both android phones. I was like "droid" is just a advertising name for a lot verizon phones. Droid is just simply advertisement and basically that's it. Somehow that advertising got everyone thinking its apple, microsoft, blackberry, and "droids" lol

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haha yeah. I had a girl who wanted a sgs3 but hated droids. I was like um...they're both android phones. I was like "droid" is just a advertising name for a lot verizon phones. Droid is just simply advertisement and basically that's it. Somehow that advertising got everyone thinking its apple, microsoft, blackberry, and "droids" lol
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Exactly! Lol
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The x phone will be the first with klp. And if moto is allowed to do anything to that phone and put some gay layout on it because its not a nexus device I will not buy it. I'm sick of Verizon and im leaving them on may 15th. The galaxy nexus was the biggest disappointment in my eyes. (Nexus phone that Verizon withheld every update and various awesome accessories)
At least the s3 wasn't promising continuous updates, wireless docks and so on
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Verizon is a member of the Open Handset Alliance. One of the founding members, I believe...
Hard to believe, based on their behavior.
When the Hell will they get it through their heads that they really don't need to be involved with much? I pay Verizon to provide a network (and ONLY a network), not hold my hand. I mean, really? Could a phone really harm their network if it hadn't passed through their approval and bloatware installation processes?
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There are currently two phones running 4.2, The Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4. Just thought id clarify that.
Honestly I kind of doubt we will see any 4.2 action till way after the release of the S4... if at all.

mentose457 said:
There are currently two phones running 4.2, The Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4. Just thought id clarify that.
Honestly I kind of doubt we will see any 4.2 action till way after the release of the S4... if at all.
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Touche.. however I don't believe the Verizon Gnex has been updated yet.. which is RIDICULOUS.
I am almost willing to bet galaxy S4 launches with 4.1.2 premium suite
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There are currently two phones running 4.2, The Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4. Just thought id clarify that..
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My phone is running 4.2
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Touche.. however I don't believe the Verizon Gnex has been updated yet.. which is RIDICULOUS.
I am almost willing to bet galaxy S4 launches with 4.1.2 premium suite
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I'm almost willing to bet it drops with 4.2. I'll give you a breakdown.
Does Google handle the customer service if a Android device has issues? No. Who does? Either the carrier or the manufacturer. That being said, there needs to be documentation of every single little thing done in an update in order for proper support on both ends of distribution. Customer service has to be trained along with tech support and any type of sales person, which takes time and money. On the software side it seems Samsung is pretty solid. We've gone from 4.0.4 to (soon) 4.1.2 with a total of (correct me if I'm wrong) 4 updates and this phone hasn't even been out for a year. When it comes to the "premium suite" did you ever consider the possibility that the test build that we have is simply "bare?". Makes things easier to troubleshoot if you don't pack in every single little feature to begin with.
You have to remember that you don't pay for the updates themselves. Yes, you paid for the phone but when you buy a Windows 8 laptop are you going to get mad because you won't get the next version for free? I don't speak for other manufacturers but have to say Samsung is doing a pretty damn good job with keeping us updated. Sorry, had to rant. Just irritates me.
Oh, and yes, they do it in order to sell more phones. But, can you blame them? Samsung is doing everything they can to stamp Apple out. That means releasing a flagship phone that will be the first of that manufacturer to launch with the newest software version.
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I'm almost willing to bet it drops with 4.2. I'll give you a breakdown.
Does Google handle the customer service if a Android device has issues? No. Who does? Either the carrier or the manufacturer. That being said, there needs to be documentation of every single little thing done in an update in order for proper support on both ends of distribution. Customer service has to be trained along with tech support and any type of sales person, which takes time and money. On the software side it seems Samsung is pretty solid. We've gone from 4.0.4 to (soon) 4.1.2 with a total of (correct me if I'm wrong) 4 updates and this phone hasn't even been out for a year. When it comes to the "premium suite" did you ever consider the possibility that the test build that we have is simply "bare?". Makes things easier to troubleshoot if you don't pack in every single little feature to begin with.
You have to remember that you don't pay for the updates themselves. Yes, you paid for the phone but when you buy a Windows 8 laptop are you going to get mad because you won't get the next version for free? I don't speak for other manufacturers but have to say Samsung is doing a pretty damn good job with keeping us updated. Sorry, had to rant. Just irritates me.
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Don't be sorry. There is some truth in what you have said. Our device has made the jump from ICS to JB which I am very thankful for. Kudos to Samsung there.
My issue is that the S3 and Note 2 are in my opinion the best phones to date... and the carriers are so stupid that they can't communicate with Google and prepare customer service for the release of the new OS on or near its release date... Then Google will announce android 5.0 just as the carriers are getting 4.1.2 or 4.2 .
I understand they want to keep the customers wanting more.... but at some point I feel that Google start developing hardware and move on.
Apparently Samsung has already begun the opposite..
http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-is-working-on-its-own-operating-system
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bajasur said:
Don't be sorry. There is some truth in what you have said. Our device has made the jump from ICS to JB which I am very thankful for. Kudos to Samsung there.
My issue is that the S3 and Note 2 are in my opinion the best phones to date... and the carriers are so stupid that they can't communicate with Google and prepare customer service for the release of the new OS on or near its release date... Then Google will announce android 5.0 just as the carriers are getting 4.1.2 or 4.2 .
I understand they want to keep the customers wanting more.... but at some point I feel that Google start developing hardware and move on.
Apparently Samsung has already begun the opposite..
http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-is-working-on-its-own-operating-system
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Haha, yeah. I just didn't want to come across negative. thanks for being understanding. I do understand your frustrations. I don't see 5.0 dropping for awhile. Google said its going to slow down a bit in their releases because Jellybean is beautiful. It brought fluidity to a "fragmented" market and while only two phones officially have 4.2, jellybean is gaining a share of the updates. I think it and ICS almost comprise 50% of the market share for Android versions which is amazing in my opinion.
You know what I'd love? I'd love for the Galaxy S IV to use the new graphine dipped batteries. Can you imagine that with 2gb of RAM and just a revisioned Exynos Quad Core? It could run at a constant 1.0ghz minimum on each core with the screen on so that multitasking would be beautifully smooth and would be easier on battery life since tasks could start and end quickly. But, anyway, If Google is going to go directly into hardware they'd have a good start. I'd love a Nexus phone to rock a MAXX battery and a 1080p AMOLED. If I recall the new AMOLED that will be in the GS4 uses 25% less battery. The combination would be ermahgerd.
Also, didn't Samsung already try another OS? pretty sure Bada didn't do too well lol.
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One can only dream!
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