WM7 HTC Arrive
http://now.sprint.com/arrive/?ECID=vanity:arrive
http://newsroom.sprint.com/news/htc-arrive-fact-sheet.htm
Qualcomm 1GHz Snapdragon Processor
· Dimensions 4.63 inches (117.6 mm) x 2.32 inches (58.9 mm) x 0.61 inches (15.5 mm)
· Weight: 6.5 ounces (184.27 grams)
· Main Display: 3.6-inch (91.4 mm), 800 x 480 WVGA capacitive touchscreen with multitouch
· Internal Memory: 16GB
· Battery: Standard 1500 mAh Lithium-ion
· Talk Time: up to 6 hours
· 5MP camera with flash, autofocus and digital zoom and 720p HD camcorder
· SRS WOW HD surround sound
· Media player with 3.5 mm stereo headset jack
· Sprint Zone™ one-stop wireless account access, phone tips, news and more
· Sprint TV and Movies® and NASCAR Sprint Cup MobileSM
· Stereo Bluetooth® 2.1 (+ EDR)
· Voice and text prompts in both English and Spanish
Available March 20.
$199.99
Personal opinion: without 4g and a 4inch + screen it's definitely not on the edge of new technology.
For $200 and the new $10 / month per line charge, it would be personally hard for me to justify.
The older snapdragon generation hints towards it having been available for release for sometime now so I definitely wonder why it wasn't.
I hate it when companies announce that there's going to be an announcement. Just announce it already.
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Yum.
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What do you guys think?
The WM7 dual-core?
Android phone?
iPhone?
WebOS?
Or a combination announced together?
My guess is WM7.
My hope is a combination including an Android super-phone.
After Echogate I find it hard to care. If they made such a big deal for that then how good could a phone announced on Twitter be?
halorin said:
After Echogate I find it hard to care. If they made such a big deal for that then his good could a phone announced on Twitter be?
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Well let's think about this:
What do you do when you have a product that is meh but you want to sell? [maybe high profit margin or being first at something again]
You hype it.
That's what Sprint did with the Echo.
[And to be honest, there are a lot more people interested in the Echo than you would expect]
Now, when it comes to a super-phone, you don't need the hype.
So why spend the money on it?
Kinda makes sense.
youd think after letting you guys down you'd be hyped up for this. its gonna be better the the echo.. cause you're all HTC nut swingers LOL.. jk... or am I ?
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Any thing has to be better than the dsi reject
from my phone duh
Knowing Sprint.. probably the echo with a third screen for a slide out keyboard.
This is getting old...won't be anything we likely want.
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Well let's think about this:
What do you do when you have a product that is meh but you want to sell? [maybe high profit margin or being first at something again]
You hype it.
That's what Sprint did with the Echo.
[And to be honest, there are a lot more people interested in the Echo than you would expect]
Now, when it comes to a super-phone, you don't need the hype.
So why spend the money on it?
Kinda makes sense.
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I disagree with this logic, personally. Sprint has to know what the benchmark is for a high end phone. Or maybe they don't.
Anything less than an Evo successor isn't worth announcing to any tech savvy person.
halorin said:
I disagree with this logic, personally. Sprint has to know what the benchmark is for a high end phone. Or maybe they don't.
Anything less than an Evo successor isn't worth announcing to any tech savvy person.
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Two comments to this:
1) The echo isn't a high end phone, it is not meant to be.
2) Your problem is that tech savvy people make up about 1% of the market.
They aren't concerned about those people as much as they are everyone as a whole.
It makes a lot of sense.
Think of it like this.
You're trying to send a middle of the road phone, you hype it up.
[Hype is the best way to sell to "less tech savvy people"]
When it comes to super-phones, they don't need hype.
Their "super"-ness will sell themselves.
mattykinsx said:
Two comments to this:
1) The echo isn't a high end phone, it is not meant to be.
2) Your problem is that tech savvy people make up about 1% of the market.
They aren't concerned about those people as much as they are everyone as a whole.
It makes a lot of sense.
Think of it like this.
You're trying to send a middle of the road phone, you hype it up.
[Hype is the best way to sell to "less tech savvy people"]
When it comes to super-phones, they don't need hype.
Their "super"-ness will sell themselves.
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I don't think phones like the Atrix would be getting advertising like they do if that was really the case, but I certainly respect your opinion. Only tech blogs got invites to the Echo event. I haven't seen one ad on TV for the Echo. I don't think general people read Android Central like that.
I see inconsistency in your line of reasoning.
WHAT?! You mean this time Sprint won't be springing to give me foamy sauces on gourmet catered dishes...and a COMPLETELY UNRELATED DAVID BLAINE MAGIC SHOW!?
I'm disappointed.
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I don't think phones like the Atrix would be getting advertising like they do if that was really the case, but I certainly respect your opinion. Only tech blogs got invites to the Echo event. I haven't seen one ad on TV for the Echo. I don't think general people read Android Central like that.
I see inconsistency in your line of reasoning.
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The Atrix was announced at CES.
That's not using hype.
That's just throwing it out there for people to play with.
Sprint doesn't use CES [mainly cause Verizon and At&t usually dominate] so they use other events to announce.
But still, the Atrix isn't hype.
I haven't seen one commercial for the Atrix that has tried to hype it up.
It doesn't need hype.
The Echo was full of it.
David Blane, etc etc...
Companies generally use hype when the product or thing they're pushing is weak to begin with.
Like the whole Verizon coverage map.
That's hyped up to make you think that Verizon is the end all be all of carriers. [and it's worked]
But a quick look at the fine print shows that the map they have constructed contains other networks that you can roam on among other inconsistencies.
And if you actually did research to compare the true networks, they aren't very different in coverage. [Except T-mobile is a distant fourth]
**Official press release from Sprints website**
For all of you that weren't ready for our Dual Screen phone and were worried about battery life were announcing the release of the Nokia 3310
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with over 48hours battery life and fully customizable with skins!
an HTC Arrive WM7? highly doubt it will be an evo2. I lost all excitement for sprint announcements.
what ever it is... i expect it to be another echo fail or less.
dont even care now.
abanh said:
I hate it when companies announce that there's going to be an announcement. Just announce it already.
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exploited789 said:
**Official press release from Sprints website**
For all of you that weren't ready for our Dual Screen phone and were worried about battery life were announcing the release of the Nokia 3310
with over 48hours battery life and fully customizable with skins!
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SWEET!!!
My dog needs a new chew toy.
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There's a lot of hype about the upcoming Nexus S (Galaxy S + Nexus One) with stock gingerbread, ffc, and first on the plate for updates.
But what you're about to lay your eyes upon.. is the GOD phone, rivaling the 4.3 in screen you envied from your droid x users I present here the:
Galaxy S 2! (The First Samsung Flashship phone)
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Boasting the specs of:
4.3/4.5 in SAMOLED2
Android Gingerbread
8 megapixel camera capable of 1080p video capture
14.4Mbps HSPA
Bluetooth 3.0
1.2GHz core
16GB of storage onboard
Thinner than iphone 4!!
Not to mention how sleek it is! THIS WILL BE THE BEST PHONE
Wtf, the cake is a lie. And if its not, I need some cake...
I got 2 nuts and a first born child for it...if it gets AT&T 3G bands..lol
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Boasting the specs of:
4.3/4.5 in SAMOLED2
Android Gingerbread
8 megapixel camera capable of 1080p video capture
14.4Mbps HSPA
Bluetooth 3.0
1.2GHz core
16GB of storage onboard
Lagfix included
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It better not have the same lag issues as the current crop, otherwise im not buying it.
If it doesn't have tons of ram i don't want it.
omg it makes me so sad to see this after ive only had my captivate for a month but imagine what the next year or two will bring!
Unless the samoled 2 is also a solar panel, I don't experience the best battery life...
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Probably gonna be bogged with RFS and and TouchWiz. If they bork the nexus S with RFS that will seriously suck. I know we can run lag fixes etc. but it would be nice to get a phone that doesn't need to be hacked just top be functional (totally would still root it, but its just the satisfaction of knowing that I wouldn't have to ^_^)
I'd still pick the Nexus S.
If the Captivate has such awful battery life, I can't imagine what a 1.2ghz processor and a 4.3" screen will do to it.
The Google Experience with a 4" screen is my dream phone. The S2 sure does look pretty though.
with all this extra power, bigger screen etc, I couldnt believe what kind of a battery it would need to be HALF DECENT.
Companies should stop competing in cpu wars, display wars etc and really revolutionize a battery that will last at least a full 24 hours with moderate usage.
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But what you're about to lay your eyes upon.. is the GOD phone, rivaling the 4.3 in screen you envied from your droid x users
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Interesting, I didn't see GPS on the feature list. Like its predecessor it looks like this phone won't come with GPS either.
Very sad for Samsung not to figure out GPS yet.
Looks like it might not be the real thing. Here's more info:
http://www.bgr.com/2010/11/12/new-samsung-flagship-phone-due-in-february/
100% fake, end of story, move along...
Saw it yesterday and haven't stopped drooling
From a phone on an app
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100% fake, end of story, move along...
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Still like the specs..lol
sent from the bomb diggity captivate. XDA rocks.
Ummmmm gingerbread cookies! Gingerbread what a stupid name.
Looks like an i Phone and a battery hog.
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This isn't fake at all. I have a very good source at Samsung who can confirm this device, although those slides are not final. Like Engadget said, these slides are 100% real from Samsung... they just used an image of a different device to get their point across. Not meant to be seen by the whole world.
Anyways, the device (which can be confirmed real by Engadget, BGR, AndroidCentral) is called the Samsung Elite: http://briefmobile.com/new-samsung-elite-specifications
It is the successor to the Galaxy S line and it's due in early 2011 for announcement.
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This isn't fake at all. I have a very good source at Samsung who can confirm this device, although those slides are not final. Like Engadget said, these slides are 100% real from Samsung... they just used an image of a different device to get their point across. Not meant to be seen by the whole world.
Anyways, the device (which can be confirmed real by Engadget, BGR, AndroidCentral) is called the Samsung Elite: http://briefmobile.com/new-samsung-elite-specifications
It is the successor to the Galaxy S line and it's due in early 2011 for announcement.
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Sounds reasonable, I was wondering if it's samsung advertising our a mock up of what might come next.
People around here are so argumentative over things where they have no facts. Also I don't get what people expect of a phone, I find battery life between meets expectations to excellent depending on what rom and modem I'm running.
And where did the notion that amoled displays hog power come from? that's the opposite of true, I don't know what the droid x is like but go buy an evo and check the battery life, it's far from good.
I'm excited about the nexus s and hope the rom and kernel port to the captivate, I just wonder if the modem will be a problem, I'm guessing it will be hsupa+ (4g) and wonder if the hardware is the same in that area and if the modem file will support the att 3g bands, or will a froyo captivate modem.bin work in gingerbread? I'll have to wait and see. As for my next phone I'll wait for a dual core device.
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roadrash7 said:
Ummmmm gingerbread cookies! Gingerbread what a stupid name.
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Please propose a desert that starts with the letter G instead.
That's right.
For you, Mr. Noob, I present:
Cupcake
Donut
Eclair
Frozen Yogurt
Gingerbread
So the CES 2011 in Las Vegas just introduced a new array of phones..we see some cool features such as the dual core processors/slimmer design/brilliant display/8MP cameras/1080p..
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc, Moto Atrix 4G, LG Optimus 2X & Black, HTC EVO Shift, Samsung Infuse..which is tickling your fancy? Having just used the Mytouch 4g for a little over 3 weeks, I'd like to know what you guys think of the new phones compared to the Mytouch..Discuss..
Since we have the second gen snapdragon and more ram i think we will be better off than most of the other 2010 phones, i'm glad i used my dad upgrade for it though because i will be eligible in July.
May I say it might be nice to have a link of this information so we might look.
www.engadget.com
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Here too. http://phandroid.com/
Moto Atrix 4G looks pretty cool, alot of features... they brought the HTC desire HD to at&t which I was hopeing they tmobile would have it with a front facing cam but nope... Nothing to special, but honeycomb and tablets looking good...
I'll trade the myTouch 4g for the Optimus 2x if it really does come to T-Mob. I'm digging the whole 1080p hdmi and 8mp camera.
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el-jodio said:
I'll trade the myTouch 4g for the Optimus 2x if it really does come to T-Mob. I'm digging the whole 1080p hdmi and 8mp camera.
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I've mentioned a while back that the physical aesthetics are extremely similar to iPhone 3Gs, but that's actually not a bad thing, albeit not very original. I will be watching this handset closely and may just have to trade in my MT4G as well. Definitely seems like a very appealing option.
el-jodio said:
I'll trade the myTouch 4g for the Optimus 2x if it really does come to T-Mob. I'm digging the whole 1080p hdmi and 8mp camera.
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The HDMI Mirroring is what i'm interested in. Angry birds, Fruit Ninja, the Browser... everything about it... When Netflix hits android that will be 110% pure gin and juice in my book.
I think out of the bunch the Atrix is by far the most interesting. The whole thing with the laptop dock is so interesting.
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I think out of the bunch the Atrix is by far the most interesting. The whole thing with the laptop dock is so interesting.
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Atrix is what attracted me the most. I just know they will f*ck it up with that e-fuse nonsense...
super phones....hmmmm.....impressive hardware but I want to see how they behave in real world scenarios regarding battery life, picture quality, overall quality...why do I need a dual core for running gingerbread....not really sure....hardware impresses first and then you realize if the software on the beast sucks it doesn't help. I have the MT4G and the front facing camera is almost useless because Tango and Qik are lousy programs. The wifi calling is a nice idea but only when the software is great. The MT4G wifi calling software is lousy. So there is much more to do on the software side regarding Android then bringing out every two month faster phones. I don't game on my phone so I am happy for now with my MT4G and wait until there are reall innovations in hardware and software. Faster is no selling point for me....
el-jodio said:
I'll trade the myTouch 4g for the Optimus 2x if it really does come to T-Mob. I'm digging the whole 1080p hdmi and 8mp camera.
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I'll definitely be in line at best buy Dec 16 for this bad boy!! LOL!
Oh how we dreampt!
phonedog just did a unboxing of the new EVO shift. its a regualar evo with no kickstand, no big screen (small as hell actaully), no 8mp camera, 2nd gen processor, no ffc, and slide out keyboard... yeah big update htc did xDD
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Atrix is what attracted me the most. I just know they will f*ck it up with that e-fuse nonsense...
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yeah that phone is one good looking phone but.. they ****ed up horrible on their flagship xperia x10. lol. lets hope they dont on this
mgymnop said:
super phones....hmmmm.....impressive hardware but I want to see how they behave in real world scenarios regarding battery life, picture quality, overall quality...why do I need a dual core for running gingerbread....not really sure....hardware impresses first and then you realize if the software on the beast sucks it doesn't help. I have the MT4G and the front facing camera is almost useless because Tango and Qik are lousy programs. The wifi calling is a nice idea but only when the software is great. The MT4G wifi calling software is lousy. So there is much more to do on the software side regarding Android then bringing out every two month faster phones. I don't game on my phone so I am happy for now with my MT4G and wait until there are reall innovations in hardware and software. Faster is no selling point for me....
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this x1000
it can have 40 cores it wont make a difference if its no better than the 20 hours i get out of my mytouch. Agree vid chat is a joke on android right now (granted how often would we really use it if it worked fantastic)
Im sure a year from now ill want a new device but now and until prob the middle of this year the mytouch will be okay. We have moto releasing some devices (we all know their history with rooting) and samsung (lol software updates)
the optimus is cool but its LGs first go into smartphones (let alone cutting edge ones) the jury is still out. See how they handle this device then make a decision
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super phones....hmmmm.....impressive hardware but I want to see how they behave in real world scenarios regarding battery life, picture quality, overall quality...why do I need a dual core for running gingerbread....not really sure....hardware impresses first and then you realize if the software on the beast sucks it doesn't help. I have the MT4G and the front facing camera is almost useless because Tango and Qik are lousy programs. The wifi calling is a nice idea but only when the software is great. The MT4G wifi calling software is lousy. So there is much more to do on the software side regarding Android then bringing out every two month faster phones. I don't game on my phone so I am happy for now with my MT4G and wait until there are reall innovations in hardware and software. Faster is no selling point for me....
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i also agree with this besides the gaming part. i dislike apples product alot but.. their software is awesome compared. lol. we DONT need better phones. we need UPDATED OPEN GL! iphone and wm7 have newest so with our phones with downgraded open gl we wont run programs close as good no matter if we have 100th gen 1ghz processors and they still have 1st.. software upgrades sound amazing, new phones = bleh.
Well initially my plan was to upgrade from my HD2 next end of this year when dual core cell based proc came out on phones. But since I lost it I had no choice to buy MT4G. Guess ill wait once dual core is more mainstream then I mean I been using MT4G for one day now and man o man its super stable and the boot is fast as hell.
If you are trying to be head in the tech world you better have alot of money as you will need it to keep up. Mostly everything gets old in 5-6months. Thats why I picked HD2 still beating down Evo fanboys.
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Well initially my plan was to upgrade from my HD2 next end of this year when dual core cell based proc came out on phones. But since I lost it I had no choice to buy MT4G. Guess ill wait once dual core is more mainstream then I mean I been using MT4G for one day now and man o man its super stable and the boot is fast as hell.
If you are trying to be head in the tech world you better have alot of money as you will need it to keep up. Mostly everything gets old in 5-6months. Thats why I picked HD2 still beating down Evo fanboys.
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the evo was actually better haha. same everything but had a ffc and better camera = better. and actual android. WM6.5 was hoooooorible lol
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^ enough said lol. This is why most Evo fans IRL came up to me and was like OMG how do I get it to look like that.
http://www.facebook.com/htcuk?v=app_7146470109
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/htc-launches-into-tablet-wars-with-1-5ghz-7-inch-flyer/
tablet looks very good
Well.. I'm really disappointed. I mean REALLY. When you compare the hardware it's almost nothing new.
HTC Desire S vs HTC Desire
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3077
I'm a HTC fan since many years and it's hard for me to say this, but HTC is really behind now and is only trying to make money and sell us BULL****!!!
Just see the comparison and you will know what I'm talking about... minor changes. NOT EVEN THE PROCESSOR HAS CHANGED!!!
The Incredible S is also nothing new under the sun. Not even a dual-core processor... No 1GB of ram.
Seriously, HTC, WHAT THE ****?
The hardware specs of Galaxy S II can eat HTC's newest devices for breakfast.
And HTC really made a big mistake because right now it's no more about the software, it's the hardware that matters. Android is almost the same on all devices and with a community like XDA everything (costumization) is possible.
RIP HTC, I will never buy a device from you anymore.
I feel pretty let down by HTC's showing at MWC.
I was expecting an Atrix/Galaxy 2 rival (aka the Pyramid) and they show us unibodied versions of phones that have been out since last year with slightly bigger batteries running Gingerbread.
I don't know whether to jump ship to the Atrix or to wait and see if they produce the Pyramid at a later date.
I'm not particularly interested in the Tablet, and if I was to get one i'd get the Moto Xoom or Samsung Galaxy 10.1 as they are pretty much the same as each other anyway with stock Honeycomb, rather than a massively skinned and shelled Gingerbread device.
HTC needs to stop trying to insist upon making Sense the core product they are selling and start making some big leaps in hardware, and soon..
Fail
I was expecting a dual core android 2.4 phone with physical keyboard and a android 3.0 tablet. None arrived...
Very dissapointed.
Was hoping for the Pyramid - something to rival the Galaxy S2 in terms of hardware specs.
I really want a HTC and was waiting for this news to determine how to proceed.
If you want the technology the Galaxy S2 seems to be the handset to get, but Samsungs TouchWiz just doesn't even compare to HTC's sense.
For me its the Desire S for now.....I need Sense in my life.
WHERE IS THE PYRAMID!!!!!!
remind me again why i should get rid of my N1?
oh yeah nothing... HELLO!!!! HTC!!! are you even trying anymore?
the only thing turing me off of the Atrix was the possible locked boot loader, and wanting to see what HTC was about to push out....
now that we have one thing off the list.... i feel that i may be leaving HTC for a while until they get their act together... maybe thats what they need... sales not to climb like they have, an actual slap to their bottom line that says consumers are done buying the same thing over and over... but sadly, even with the numbers we have, until the masses relize this, HTC sale numbers will continue to rise and no real reason for them to change...
in their eyes, if it aint broke, why fix it?
for me, its a total dissapointment.
i mean WTF ARE THEY THINKING
its the same ****.. AGAIN
there is still no phone that would be a REAL upgrade to my HD2..
i hoped for a new flagship.. i hoped it so bad..
i hoped for something that would frag all others away.. but they stay at the same level.. just to get even more money out from the same old **** >.>
only good thing of htc this time was the tablet. but thats it, and i guess they will overprice it, so i won't get it
i'll stick to my HD2. **** you HTC, u idiots
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like all of you, I'm very disappointed... where is my Pyramid!!?
Meh, totally under-whelming.
Build quality of the Desire S sounds nice, and i wouldn't mind having one, but it's not specced any higher than my N1 and of course is full of 'Sense' crap which i'd have to nuke from orbit before using the thing.
im really thinking of totaly switching to moto now
the atrix and the xoom tab are just too cool...
and more sexy.
Whats up Guys @ HTC
Every Smartphone producer shows their flagships at MWC this week, and HTC???
Not even one word about the Pyramid is in planning?
Sure we have to wait...
(it was the same with the Snapdragon 1GHz Processor, the TG01 was 4 months before the HD2 out)
And im pretty sure the wait was worth it!
So now we can buy soon (non HTC ):
- Many Dual core (even different Processors) Phones
- 3D Display Phones
- Ultra bright Display ( 700 Nit - Daylight usable) Phones
- Ultra thin and light (Dual Core) Phones (~8,5mm)
And whats coming from HTC? - only a "Sense" with streaming, and an "new" Facebook Button
Where is the Successor of the HD2
Come on HTC, you have to be the carriers of technology, dont get lost in Software ...
Phones are still made out of Hardware!!!
Give the people a Dream - a Dream we want to wait for :
Oh, and this will be such an Dream:
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The Galaxy S II has some fantastic hardware, but I decided because of the complaints people have about software updates etc that I would wait and see what HTC had on offer before making up my mind. Having seen it I have to wonder what exactly are they thinking? Sure they're well built phones, but why do they feel satisfied in pushing out fairly old hardware.
Cheap(er) hardware sells in bigger numbers.
OldBloke said:
Cheap(er) hardware sells in bigger numbers.
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Of course. It may well be that they thought a more reasonably priced (if indeed they are reasonably priced) phone would be just what the market needs. It just seemed remarkably out of place for them to wax lyrical about phones that are remarkably similar to their current generation except with new software.
HTC should really make Sense downloadable through market as a launcher instead. I just hate it. It's ugly and doesn't really make a difference for me.
Regarding the new phones there is nothing really impressive. The new Tegra2 dual core phones that are coming out (LG and Motorola) will most likely blow any of those HTC phones away. I believe they also have integrated geforce graphics so nothing should really be an issue on those phones.
My Wildfire have been a disappointment so I wouldn't even consider a HTC phone again unless I was 100% certain I could make it good.
One devices than can beat the Desire HD?
I stopped paying attention to smartphones a long time ago.
But the HTC Flyer actually catches my attention as a useful Android tablet for once. No Honeycomb is a bummer (Android is already too fragmented!), but it does have an N-trig DuoSense digitizer and apps to use it with. More than I can say for a certain other US$800 Android tablet.
Maybe I won't have to keep looking specifically at Windows Tablet PCs for a viable pen and paper alternative.
Bummer! HTC where's the Pyramid and some Innovative devices??
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Bummer! HTC where's the Pyramid and some Innovative devices??
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yeah i really want my pyramid lol...said it on another thread and i will say it again...htc's releases have not been that great at least i didnt think so
I'll admit every day I'm closer and closer to listing my G2x on ebay, in favor of the HTC Sensation but the locked bootloader had me very worried. Fast forward to Today, and HTC CEO officially confirmed that locked bootloaders will no longer be implemented in their devices. Sooooooo, as soon as the Sensation's released date is officially confirmed as June 8th my G2x is going bye-bye. Now the G2x is an amazing device, don't get me wrong but I had the Thunderbolt when I was with verizon, and grew quite fond of HTC sense UI. I probably won't be keeping the Sensation for long either, because as soon as Samsung Hercules comes out, it's going on ebay too, lol.http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/htc-decides-to-unlock-bootloaders-moving-forward/
I'm tempted as well but not a big fan of sense UI I also want to see what issues this phone will have when it's released.
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I'm tempted as well but not a big fan of sense UI I also want to see what issues this phone will have when it's released.
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We are talking about unlocked bootloaders on a site that deals with multiple developers making all kinds of roms and you are worried about sense LOL
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Nope, who would want the Sensation when the GOD of all phones is being released 2 months later? In my opinion, the G2X is slightly better than the Sensation but the SGSII/Hercules is on it's own level.
What kind of screen is the sensation supposed to have? I hope not the same as the g2 as that phone was useless in the daylight.
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HTC has not stated when the new policy will take effect. I doubt the htc sensation or evo 3d will have unlocked bootloaders.
Though HTC might release the key to the public.
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We are talking about unlocked bootloaders on a site that deals with multiple developers making all kinds of roms and you are worried about sense LOL
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ya true but just sayin haha and because it has sense usually means slower updates (not like ours seem to be any faster)
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HTC has not stated when the new policy will take effect. I doubt the htc sensation or evo 3d will have unlocked bootloaders.
Though HTC might release the key to the public.
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That's what I was thinking, maybe they'll release it on their support site for currently locked devices.
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What kind of screen is the sensation supposed to have? I hope not the same as the g2 as that phone was useless in the daylight.
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S-LCD I believe.
I suppose it's possible that a decision made this week to nix the locked bootloaders could manifest itself on a very soon to be released device, but I'll be surprised if it is.
Future HTC phones may be more open, but it seems like wishful thinking to assume the Sensation's bootloader has been re-engineered in the last couple of weeks.
Also, I'm not so sure the Sensations hardware really measures up to what we have in our G2xs.
I'm as much of an HTC fan as anyone (see my XDA join date) I really really miss my dear departed N1, I can't bring myself to sell my MT3G, and I have two WinMo HTC phones gathering dust in a desk drawer. All that said it is nice to see someone else like LG stepping up with an enthusiasts quality device. If and when they do get the kinks ironed out this thing will be the best of the best, and wait till we see the second generation LG Android flagship.
Wow, elephants can dance...
“There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we’ve listened. Today, I’m confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience,”
Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
More toys for everyone to play with...
**** HTC. And **** Qualcomm. I will hold on to my nVidia phone until 3rd or 4th quarter of this year when the 5 times faster Tegra 3 comes out.
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**** HTC. And **** Qualcomm.
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Just curious, why? The locked bootloader was everyone's biggest gripe and now that's gone. They built the N1 and G2 which were great phones and got lots of developer support. Their internal memory's a little skimpy but that's already starting to change with the EVO 3D. I'm not a fan of any one phone manufacturer but some of my best phones were HTC's. Just wanted to know what made you feel so strongly.
Choice is good. Choice is very good.
HTC can't even have a phone with good battery life. The speakers suck and sound blown. They are producing phones at such a high rate corners have to be cut. By theory, HTC devices are nice but on the end users side they are really nothing to scream to Tue gods about. They seem to worry more about that damn sense crap than putting decent displays and speaker units into the phones and bump the battery to a better mah rating. I say ditch sense and use that money to use better higher quality and appealing parts.
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On a side note, the only reason why I would even consider the sensation is the screen size.
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On a side note, the only reason why I would even consider the sensation is the screen size.
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Yeah, I'll admit that's the major selling point for me.
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Just curious, why? The locked bootloader was everyone's biggest gripe and now that's gone. They built the N1 and G2 which were great phones and got lots of developer support. Their internal memory's a little skimpy but that's already starting to change with the EVO 3D. I'm not a fan of any one phone manufacturer but some of my best phones were HTC's. Just wanted to know what made you feel so strongly.
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I posted this in another thread but essentially Qualcomm tends to deliver chips that look great on paper but are **** in reality and HTC's build quality leaves something to be desired. Some of my best devices have indeed been HTC devices - however, I have never had a single HTC device last as long as my Captivate did and HTC cuts corners too much for my liking. The Evo is a perfect example. Two different types of display panels, one of them with a decidedly yellow tint; the artificial bottlecap on framerate that was imposed and the piss-poor decision to use very thin Gorilla Glass which made the device very prone to instant breakage if dropped. My Captivate? I threw it across the room in a rage and it didn't even dent it. I dropped it face-first on concrete I don't know how many times and only got scratches.
Don't even get me started on battery life, shoddy driver history, and the outright lies about storage space that HTC makes. I bought an Inspire expecting to get 4GB of internal NAND - only to find out that it does indeed have 4GB of NAND but user accessible NAND was only 2GB because they formatted it for speed instead of capacity. HTC is the only manufacturer that has done this as far as I've seen and it does not give me any faith in them. Too many lies, cut corners, and replaced devices for my taste. My MT4G out of the box was the worst phone I've ever had. Dead pixels, dead headphone jack, factory reset itself twice while it was running STOCK, my menu button had to be pressed extremely hard to get it to work, etc.
The Inspire had a worse battery than the Evo did but other than that seemed to be the highest quality HTC device I'd seen other than reception and the NAND misrepresentation. The screen sensitivity was almost too much and the "capacitive matrix" was much tighter than the one on my other LCD devices. Oh and the ear piece volume is always a nightmare with HTC devices.
I'll give you dev support but with nVidia, Marvell, and Freescale joining the mobile fight and Intel also promising to jump in as well, I see some big shifts in power coming to the mobile world. Software development behind the Tegra has really taken off and I don't think I've ever seen HTC release a device that didn't have a Qualcomm MSM after they dropped the Intel (now Marvell) PXA chip.
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If thats the case just wait for the Hercules. Or is that to much phone for you?
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actually its qHD the sensation will be pretty similar to the SGS2 from the specs ive been reading. 1.2 dual core, qHD (one step below the retinal screen on the iphone 4).... the HTC screen to me makes up for the slight differences. plus Touchwiz isn't my favorite after my Vibrant experience. Both will be good though.
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If you've already seen the Xiaomi M1 announcement about a month ago, well, forget it, because Xiaomi has already made some significant changes since then. What we've just learned from today's Beijing launch event is that the M1 -- now officially "Xiaomi Phone" -- no longer packs a 1.2GHz dual-core chip; instead, it's been given a bump to a Qualcomm MSM8260 SoC, thus becoming the first Chinese phone to sport a 1.5GHz dual-core chip. As part of the Snapdragon package, the phone is also powered by a powerful Adreno 220 graphics processor, which will no doubt make good use of the phone's 1GB RAM and a staggering 4GB ROM. Oh, and that ¥2,600 (about US$410) price tag? It's now ¥1,999 ($310), and will be available for pre-order on August 29th for October delivery. Read on for more surprises!
Update: We've just been informed that there will also be a 1.2GHz version available for an even cheaper price!
Update 2: Our hands-on post is up!
Xiaomi Phone with MIUI OS: a $310 phone with 1.5GHz dual-core SoC and other surprises
Unlike most phones with a 1400mAh or 1500mAh battery these days, the Xiaomi Phone gets a ginormous 1930mAh cell instead, and we're promised to get two days worth of real-life usage out of it -- CEO Lei Jun emphasised the "real-life" part, so we shall see. Another surprise -- albeit an odd one -- is that this phone supports both GPS (with A-GPS) and Russia's GLONASS, meaning President Medvedev can navigate around his country just fine while updating his Weibo Twitter.
As for the rest, you get a 4-inch 480 x 854 LCD courtesy of Sharp (LCD for better outdoor performance, and 4 inches for Asian ergonomics), three touch buttons below the screen, a customisable "Mi key" (camera shutter or Weibo; long press for home screen), an eight megapixel camera with an F2.4 lens, and a dual antenna design that plays well with any kind of grip (obviously a little wink at Apple). Dimension-wise we're looking at 125mm x 63mm x 11.9mm, weighing 149g or 5.3 ounces -- just a tad heavier than the iPhone 4. As for accessories, we're told that there will cases in at least seven bright colors, along with spare batteries of the same set of colors (that's how awesome Xiaomi is).
Of course, let's not forget the real star here: the MIUI (pronounced "mee-you-eye") OS, which is a low-level custom UI based on Android 2.3.5. There's no question about MIUI's rapidly increasing popularity in recent years (Xiaomi quoted a user base of about 500,000), but if you insist on trying other Android flavors on Xiaomi's hardware, then you'll be pleased to know that this phone lets you flash whatever firmware you like.
If you're starting to doubt the Xiaomi Phone's reliability, you shouldn't -- we've been told that this phone's been thoroughly torture-tested in the lab, simulating two years worth of usage. "This is why we take much longer than shanzhai factories to make a phone," said the CEO. We'll see about that in two months time, really looking forward to it.
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i dun speak/read chinese
I hope its translated into English...if not this seems like a great birthday present for my dad
This thing is pretty awesome. Look at the price for the hardware people...$300...1.5Ghz dual core. Good camera, decent screen. Big battery, customizable....hell if it supports US 3G bands, that's make it an instant sell.
Can you put CM7 on it?
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Can you put CM7 on it?
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the phone isn't even out.
It doesn't even have root yet.
CM has to support the phone.
thinking far ahead bro.
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This thing is pretty awesome. Look at the price for the hardware people...$300...1.5Ghz dual core. Good camera, decent screen. Big battery, customizable....hell if it supports US 3G bands, that's make it an instant sell.
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Looks like it has the bands to support AT&T 3G.
Get this phone if you dont feel like Waiting forever to get your phone updated to the latest Android release.
I am thinking when will there a CM phone
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the phone isn't even out.
It doesn't even have root yet.
CM has to support the phone.
thinking far ahead bro.
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"...but if you insist on trying other Android flavors on Xiaomi's hardware, then you'll be pleased to know that this phone lets you flash whatever firmware you like."
i'm assuming that means unlocked bootloader and superuser capabilities. and given the awesomeness of this phone it will be a /very/ short wait for cm7 to support this phone. i'm guessing the dev community will be huge if this phone delivers on it's promised awesomeness
I am extremely interested in this phone.
I find it interesting that the price point that this phone comes in at is just a little more then most of our new phones in the US with a 2 year contract!
Talk about getting ripped off!
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the phone isn't even out.
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thinking far ahead bro.
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It was a joke calm down
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I might buy cuz I switching to att but keeping vibe as my main just want to experience dual core cuz this is great price might wait a little after release an buy on Craigslist or eBay lol I'm cheap
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it'll be on ebay as "ships from USA", for $450 to get it that week. or you can play the customs games from hong kong shippers and wait 21-28 days to *hopefully* get the phone. i'll stick with newer devices hood rats sell on craigslist because they can't afford the bill they promised to pay. =P
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it'll be on ebay as "ships from USA", for $450 to get it that week. or you can play the customs games from hong kong shippers and wait 21-28 days to *hopefully* get the phone. i'll stick with newer devices hood rats sell on craigslist because they can't afford the bill they promised to pay. =P
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Lmao me to seen a galaxy s2 for 450 but not ready to move on from vibrant phone is just to awesome
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the phone isn't even out.
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thinking far ahead bro.
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I think MIUI is based of CM.. so the answer is yes
Someone's going to get sued.
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I am also looking forward for this phone. Will it be available in INDIA??
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amitanshu said:
I am also looking forward for this phone. Will it be available in INDIA??
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specs are pretty amazing for a $300 non contract phone. wonder what 3g/4g networks it will work on for us in the the US...?
Why in US phones comes with contract??
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