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[Q] Ripping My Hair Out!

Hi all. As I'm sure you can see, this is my first post on XDA. This seemed like the perfect smartphone related community, so I joined up, and I look forward to becoming a long time active member. Now, to the point of this thread. I am looking to pick up my first ever smartphone(yes yes let the laughter out, I still own a Nokia from the stone age, and its' embarrassing to pull it out in public lol). I really had my heart set on the Samsung Galaxy S II LTE. By the way, I am from Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and am a Rogers Wireless customer, and that is their version of the Samsung Galaxy S II. But after extensive research, which actually brought me to XDA, I found out that they have a massive screen defect issue with the vertical lines and blobs. Although, some people, from what I've read, have said that it isn't such a big deal, while others just can't stand it. With that information, I am back at square one. I do not know what phone to get. The Samsung Galaxy Nexus is just way too big in my opinion, as I have held one. And next to Samsung, I think the best wireless company would probably be Motorola. With that, I was thinking about possibly picking up the Motorolo RAZR. Is that a good choice over the Galaxy S II? Bad choice? It has gotten some stellar reviews, but it seems that the Galaxy S II is the superior phone out there. So my question is, what should I get? I know a few people that have had issues with their HTC's, so I'm not really leaning toward them. What should I do? This is driving me crazy. I want a new phone sooooo badly, but don't know what to choose. Any help or advice is truly appreciated!! Thank you so much.

Motorola doesn't look so good when it comes to updating their devices, if you are to consider that the atrix has not been announced on their road map to ICS. That may change, but for now, it doesn't look like they are keen on updating their devices.
Just to point it out, every phone has issues, but usually it is a minority that experience these issues. So just saying, a HTC phone will have the same amount of issues as a Samsung one. But now comes my bias, I love my sgs 2, and would fully recommend it.

I'd go for the LTE SII, it's a very nice phone and one problem that only a couple people are reporting should never discourage you from getting a good phone

Wait. Wait for more native ics phones. If you can hold out, I'd recommend you wait for a phone that already has the new firmware.
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well my suggestion goes against what you are looking for, but it's a rock solid performer; HTC Droid Incredible 2. it's a 3G only device, it's about six months old, and has a great community behind it. there are a few great stock ROMs to select from, and quite a few Sense 3.5 ROMs as well.
this is my first android device, and my second HTC device. i am very happy with it, and i have no buyer's remorse given the latest and greatest new phones on the market. it handles everything i throw at it, it has no compatibility issues on the Market for my uses. i'm not much of a phone gamer, but it plays my tower defense games like Sentinel 3 smoothly.
battery life is great for me. i can get a day out of it with my normal use; gmail on push, about an hour's worth of calling, 40-50 sms, 30-45 minutes of gaming, 30 minutes of forum and web browsing, and maybe 100MB of downloads.
give our forum a look-see, i think you may be impressed. but is you have your heart set on LTE, you will have to look elsewhere.

Me too!!
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Kailkti said:
I love my sgs 2, and would fully recommend it.
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Is your SGS2 the Skyrocket(American equivlent to the Canada S2 LTE)? Cause it seems that the problem is most widespread on these devices. If I could get a normal S2 on my provider, I would own one right now!!
cordell507 said:
one problem that only a couple people are reporting
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It seems to be pretty widespread...
slapshot30 said:
wait for a phone that already has the new firmware.
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Samsung announced that all S2's would be getting ICS from what I've read.

International sgs 2. I wont let myself be boggled down by those monopolistic carriers.
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Kailkti said:
International sgs 2. I wont let myself be boggled down by those monopolistic carriers.
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I would so be down to have an international one shipped to me except:
a)When it comes to a phone, I prefer to buy a brand spanking new device.
b)I'm the type of person, especially for a purchase like this, that likes to see/hold the product before I buy it.

if you ok with leaving rogers it seems like virgin mobile in canada has a great selection of good phones.

Grosskum said:
if you ok with leaving rogers it seems like virgin mobile in canada has a great selection of good phones.
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I do like Rogers, but leaving them is a possibility. If I did though, I would have to go with Telus instead of Virgin.

Dont get motorolla anything.... with locked bootloaders development fot the phones is bad... go with a Samsung... I have a Captivate running ICS and i love it...
wouldnt trade it for anything....unless its an actual Galaxy Nexus lol

jayRokk said:
Dont get motorolla anything.... with locked bootloaders development fot the phones is bad... go with a Samsung... I have a Captivate running ICS and i love it...
wouldnt trade it for anything....unless its an actual Galaxy Nexus lol
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Yea I've pretty much made my decision, I'm going to go with the Galaxy S II LTE.

RoLo. said:
Yea I've pretty much made my decision, I'm going to go with the Galaxy S II LTE.
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Good choice
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look hands down any htc or or google device is the only device i would recommend for development

You know, every phone has its defect. Theres just no such phone that doesnt have any problems with its production.
You saw many messages about defective screen, thats only because SGS2 is one of most popular smartphones right now, and there are many buyers. Many phones, some % of them is defective.
Happy ppl got their SGS2 without defect and they are using it, and dont complain. But only those who got some problem, go to forum, do research and so on. They post about their problem. There are many ppl with such problems, but there are much more ppl who are lucky to have their phone without any defects or whatever problems.
Chances to get such phone with defect is very small. Theres just some % of phones which are defective. Imagine situation: 100 motorolas sold out, 1 of them (1%) was defective . You go to forums and see only 1 post about defective phone. 100000 SGS2 sold out, and 1000 of them (its same 1%) was defective. You go to forums and see OMG 1000 posts about defective SGS2, but it is the same % as motorolas. Just different quantity.
all the numbers I used are just an example
So.. SGS2 is a good choice.

Roksard said:
You know, every phone has its defect. Theres just no such phone that doesnt have any problems with its production.
You saw many messages about defective screen, thats only because SGS2 is one of most popular smartphones right now, and there are many buyers. Many phones, some % of them is defective.
Happy ppl got their SGS2 without defect and they are using it, and dont complain. But only those who got some problem, go to forum, do research and so on. They post about their problem. There are many ppl with such problems, but there are much more ppl who are lucky to have their phone without any defects or whatever problems.
Chances to get such phone with defect is very small. Theres just some % of phones which are defective. Imagine situation: 100 motorolas sold out, 1 of them (1%) was defective . You go to forums and see only 1 post about defective phone. 100000 SGS2 sold out, and 1000 of them (its same 1%) was defective. You go to forums and see OMG 1000 posts about defective SGS2, but it is the same % as motorolas. Just different quantity.
all the numbers I used are just an example
So.. SGS2 is a good choice.
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Yeah, I started thinking about this as well before making my decision. And in a worst case scenerio if I do get a defective one, I can exchange it for a brand new device. Thanks for all the input fellas. Much appreciated.

slapshot30 said:
Wait. Wait for more native ics phones. If you can hold out, I'd recommend you wait for a phone that already has the new firmware.
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it's good to wait but latest phones are not that cheap.

Warranty is your best friend!
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Prime or TF700?

I currently own an original transformer and I want to upgrade. I get some hiccups here and there and I hate the way it looks. I've had my heart set on tf prime since july, but with all the problems I hear about it, I'm sort of worried. A plus of upgrading now would be that my tf101 is still sellable, in June it may not be. A peeve is the hundred dollars more and having to wait 4 months (money burns a hole in my pocket), but the screen does seem really nice, and it looks like alot of the issues will get fixed.
What would you guys recommend?

The tf700 doesn't have any thing more than the prime
It just have a better screen
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Well, I'm waiting - for TF700 or a new Samsung with S-Pen. TF201 has too many issues in things that are critical to me. (But I have TF101 so I have something to wait with. I'm also observing the TF201 situation and if new Transformers are without much problems I might even buy TF201.)

I'd wait for the TF700 or like tablet bit I wouldn't pre-order any of them (never again for me).

I just realized the lenovo ideapad k2 is actually better than the tf700.
It has a USB port, same screen resolution, full sized SD, 1.7ghz t3, and a fingerprint scanner.
They're also ripping Asus off and adding a keyboard dock.
I'd probably go for that one, but lenovo is probably going to throw it in the 800-1000 range.
Looks a little huskier too.

Unfortunately no more of my money will toto Asus. Half working tablet isn't a good thing.

ickkii said:
I just realized the lenovo ideapad k2 is actually better than the tf700.
It has a USB port, same screen resolution, full sized SD, 1.7ghz t3, and a fingerprint scanner.
They're also ripping Asus off and adding a keyboard dock.
I'd probably go for that one, but lenovo is probably going to throw it in the 800-1000 range.
Looks a little huskier too.
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Another question: will the Ideapad get support from users/dev/geeks? One of my colleague got a Toshiba Thrive, but he is stuck with a tablet that is not well supported even if the specs were not bad. I told him to buy the TF101, but he did not listen to me.
I don't say the Lenovo tablet will not be good, but for me and most people who are reading this forum, community support is an important factor. I think so...
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Magnesus said:
TF201 has too many issues in things that are critical to me.
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Too many!?!?!

I own the prime and not one single problem. A very happy proud owner. I have used g slate, toshiba thrive, blackberry playbook, and sony s. None can compare with the prime. Thats all i can say.

So.. Main question..
Is the current prime worth it... Or should i wait for tf700?!
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SalsaForte said:
Another question: will the Ideapad get support from users/dev/geeks? One of my colleague got a Toshiba Thrive, but he is stuck with a tablet that is not well supported even if the specs were not bad. I told him to buy the TF101, but he did not listen to me.
I don't say the Lenovo tablet will not be good, but for me and most people who are reading this forum, community support is an important factor. I think so...
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Too many!?!?!
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Lenovo is in same boat as Toshiba. No developer support here at all..if you worried about community support, Toshiba n Lenovo will never have it here in xda. Their forums are dead..lol
Prime already has great support n more devs. Coming as soon as bootloader unlocked. We already doing great developement work without bootloader or custom roms. Just imagine once we do..
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zylor said:
So.. Main question..
Is the current prime worth it... Or should i wait for tf700?!
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I'd say go for it. If you look at all the polls here. You will see how majority of prime owners here in xda that voted feels. Plus I'm sure you've seen all the issue threads. Not to put things into perspective. Just look at The Positive Transformer thread in my signature.
Nothing is as good as it seems n nothing OS as bad as it seems...somewhere in-between, reality falls

SalsaForte said:
Too many!?!?!
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Yes, the issues that bother me the most and are deal breakers:
- GPS (I need a working GPS for many reasons, photo tagging being one of them),
- WiFi (I can't risk buying a device with poor WiFI that would be hard to replace and sell later),
- Touchscreen problems - some people reported poor touchscreen which is also critical to me because I write on my tablet a lot!
That is why I decided to wait for Samsung tablets with S-Pen (while using my TF101). It's my personal decision and maybe I could find a Prime without those problems, but it's too risky for me (it's a lot of cash for me and it's hard to replace a device in my country - not a lot of them around and bad customer service in most shops!). I saw a Prime running in Media Markt and it was blazingly fast compared to my TF101. So if there are no issues with your device it's probably the greatest tablet you can get. Still, the risk of problems is too big for me.

I was in the same boat as you... But then I ordered my tf201 on JAN 30th and I don't regret it!

go for it
i made a thread about this tfp i am using now and all i can say is that i love it, honestly. i was on the fence about whether or not to give it a go and had teetered toward the thrive, but i honestly am really loving the prime, granted the only issue i've noticed is with the gps so far but i'm having a snowstorm currently today and since this is day one of use, i'm still searching for any bugs or hangups. i'll be able to test the gps fully on a clear day and i hope it works well, but we shall see if anything new pops up that could be a deal breaker in the long run, but at this point i dont see anything that is too bad.
if you want to sit on your current pad and just pray the next replacement kills this bad boy, since you have a tab already why not wait? but if you're dying for the bigger better deal, the one i got is in great working order and came from an office depot "gmill" sub-warehouse in texas.

Back to Samsung THANK GOD!!!!

I admit I was a stupid stupid man and jumped ship and went from a samsung phone to an "LG Thrill" on my last ATT upgrade (because it was free) and now I know why......... I will never own another LG phone as long as I live!!!!! What a POS that was. It is so bad ATT doesn't even want the Thrill back!!!! And it works other than the fact it sends calls straight to voicemail 3 out of 10 calls......Just wanted to say I am glad to be back somewhere that everything makes more sence and the mods have it going on.............Peace

Glad you're back , so ?

Welcome back.
LG often makes phones with such good specs, but their software is a disaster. It's tough to beat Samsung nowadays.

Its all preference. My sister has had 3 and no problems thus far. I like phones with high popularity because of the mods. That's why I got a Sammy. Really want the next nexus device, without even knowing the details of course. But they always have great developers and I love cm. I'd get a lg phone if they made one worthy.
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Not to mention that nexus devices will almost certainly always get early ROM updates
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Back on the LG phones though, they're ok; not as good as Samsung, but adequate and good build quality. My wife left her P500 on the boot of her car, it went flying when she went around a corner and hit the sidewalk at pace. And it still works just fine afterwards

No love for n8013

How come there not a lot of ROM development for this tablet even the 3g version doesn't get that much.
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My guess is that it's a hefty price for a tablet that got a lot of bad reviews. Even though it is IMO the best tablet on the market. I think after the holiday season (when prices drop and official jelly bean is out) things will pick up a little bit more.

ttreed07 said:
My guess is that it's a hefty price for a tablet that got a lot of bad reviews. Even though it is IMO the best tablet on the market. I think after the holiday season (when prices drop and official jelly bean is out) things will pick up a little bit more.
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Bad reviews because they cant get the point of the tablet...
Compare this with an iPad is just stupid

Yea I hope the development picks up when jelly bean comes out. I had the iPad and its good in its own ways but hate the boring ui, I just picked up the Note 10.1 and I got to say I love it,the screen is not as good but everything is great. I saw a couple of people flash the 3g roms on the WiFi version is that safe to do.
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I purchased this tab on Saturday, rooted and put chrack's Rom on that a few WiFi only owners were running before he made a WiFi version, it might be best to check the thread of a Rom and see if a WiFi user took the plunge and applied it.
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I also assumed there would be a lot of development on this tab as it seems very powerful, but I guess people don't switch tabs as often as phones. I'm thinking of returning this tab to bestbuy & then purchase at Costco which has a 3 month return policy, if nothing picks up by then I can switch to the latest tab.

I think the reason that development is slow for this tablet is probably because of the reasons of the critics' reviews, the price, and the Nexus 10's arrival. Probably the combination of the first two was already bad, but the Nexus 10's price and screen has taken a big share of what should be this tablet's limelight..
Unfortunately, I guess most people don't care enough about the stylus to get this tablet over others, but I am glad I made the jump despite hesitating because of the reviews .

Love my note 5

So I know there is probably some thread here referring to how much they like their note 5 bit I was a hardcore iPhone user and I'm now a note convert. I've had a couple replacements, and t-mobile sent me a new replacement in a box that I want expecting I was assuming ib was going to just receive a refurb well, since getting my replacement the screen is the best one I have had on a note so far and is build quality is amazing. I love how much Samsung has finally slimmed down their skin and Even with a few small hiccups here and there is smooth and fast. I also love the amount of updates i have received since buying this beast fix almost all of the small problems I did have with it this is the first Android phone I haven't wanted to root just downloaded package disabler pro and got rid of bloat and it's fast and battery life is pretty good and I love wireless charging and fast charging. I'm so excited to see what Samsung has for marshmallow. Who's with me!!!!!!
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I love mine, too.

I really love mine!!!!

I love mine the most! :silly::laugh:

Time for a Note 5 love in!
After coming from a OnePlus, this is genuinely the first phone in years that I haven't felt the need to root and modify. Clearly there are some KNOX issues with doing that, but even so I'm really happy with the camera, battery, and general performance. Glad to see Marshmallow coming next month which should make things even better.

emailrob said:
Time for a Note 5 love in!
After coming from a OnePlus, this is genuinely the first phone in years that I haven't felt the need to root and modify. Clearly there are some KNOX issues with doing that, but even so I'm really happy with the camera, battery, and general performance. Glad to see Marshmallow coming next month which should make things even better.
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Exactly my feeling as well l, I've rooted the s3 the note 3, HTC m7, nexus 5, s4, G2. Etc. This is the only on home where I haven't rooted and felt just fine not doing so
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I love mine, too. But, rooted it the second I got it.

10-K said:
I love mine, too. But, rooted it the second I got it.
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Did you not care about warranty?

You can flash back to stock if you need to exchange. But, I'd have done it anyway. To answer your question.

10-K said:
You can flash back to stock if you need to exchange. But, I'd have done it anyway. To answer your question.
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Won't they notice your Knox has been ticked?

Never have when I've exchanged one. I've exchanged with t-mobile and Samsung.

Not only do I love my Note 5, I obsessively adore it ?!
I, like many xda members, am a total smartphone nerd & have had a plethora of phones from ALL the major manufacturers. And this device truly takes it to the next level! I cannot stop geeking out over it... What the heck-a-rello was I waiting for?!?

Stixxbixby said:
Not only do I love my Note 5, I obsessively adore it ?!
I, like many xda members, am a total smartphone nerd & have had a plethora of phones from ALL the major manufacturers. And this device truly takes it to the next level! I cannot stop geeking out over it... What the heck-a-rello was I waiting for?!?
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Hahaha I'm exactly the same way I keep on cleaning it and buying new accessories for it because of all Its insane potential. This phone is great I love the screen and feel like samsung took a little to long to release a phone that is worth to me buying. I'm actually going to buy another one the gold platinum version of the phone now that Tmobile has it, I'm so EXCITED MY WHITE AND SOON TO BE GOLD WILL LOOK AMAZING.
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bsanto9 said:
So I know there is probably some thread here referring to how much they like their note 5 bit I was a hardcore iPhone user and I'm now a note convert. I've had a couple replacements, and t-mobile sent me a new replacement in a box that I want expecting I was assuming ib was going to just receive a refurb well, since getting my replacement the screen is the best one I have had on a note so far and is build quality is amazing. I love how much Samsung has finally slimmed down their skin and Even with a few small hiccups here and there is smooth and fast. I also love the amount of updates i have received since buying this beast fix almost all of the small problems I did have with it this is the first Android phone I haven't wanted to root just downloaded package disabler pro and got rid of bloat and it's fast and battery life is pretty good and I love wireless charging and fast charging. I'm so excited to see what Samsung has for marshmallow. Who's with me!!!!!!
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Glad you like it. After all, it was designed for people like you- the "hardcore iphone user." The very existence of this device is a slap in the face of the "hardcore" note/galaxy users. And anyone with this phone, claiming to be a hardcore Samsung, and is not a developer, is either a mindless consumer drone or a no-nipple having Samsung sheep. SHAME ON YOU Samsung for placating to the soylent green apple fan club... SHAME!!!

Bruce lee roy said:
Glad you like it. After all, it was designed for people like you- the "hardcore iphone user." The very existence of this device is a slap in the face of the "hardcore" note/galaxy users. And anyone with this phone, claiming to be a hardcore Samsung, and is not a developer, is either a mindless consumer drone or a no-nipple having Samsung sheep. SHAME ON YOU Samsung for placating to the soylent green apple fan club... SHAME!!!
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Please get that non sense out if here, it's not a slap in "hard core" note users faces, it is still a very powerful phone with great battery life and future proof to and extent. You think because Samsung got rid of a plastic back you can remove and a slot to expand your memory it was an intentional slap In note users faces, i just don't see the the logic. Samsung was imo was trying to get with the times, also every with and exception of a few oems have enclosed batteries and no expandable memory. I think LG is probably one of the few who didn't get rid of it and look how well the G4 did for them TERRIBLE if you read the G4 forum there are nothing going but complaints every where bad screen, bad battery life, runs hot etc. On a side note I'm in software development and thus phone would not interfere in anyway with me using it to help with my job. So shame on sour Note users who do not like progression.
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+1.
I'm a "hard core user" and it's the best phone I've ever had. I'm rooted, running Tek's rom, Skyhigh kernel.

Not sure which jedi mind funked into believing the removal of features equal progress but you have been severely misinformed. And I know your influence wasn't from the darks side because Apple doesn't remove features, they only steal them from android and present it to the mindless mass as Innovation. Enjoy your sealed battery and 64 measly gb of storage. Just be sure to buy a memory stick to shove up your glass... and while your at it, go ahead and fork over that extra doe for more data bc you'll be spending more time in that lovely cloud... and don't forget to insurance because not only is that $800 device the most fragile device on the market but it also a non removable battery constantly depleting behind that nice shinny glass back... and don't get in the habit of recording in 4k because it will make short order of that 32/64 gb, much like gear vr files.
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Karakoram2 said:
+1.
I'm a "hard core user" and it's the best phone I've ever had. I'm rooted, running Tek's rom, Skyhigh kernel.
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... and No, you are not a "hard core user." You, my friend, are food. I'm sure Samsung is deeply appreciative of you nourishment; helping them make it through the winter so they can try again next summer ... hopefully learning from their mistakes (ie note 5 and s6).

Bruce lee roy said:
Not sure which jedi mind funked into believing the removal of features equal progress but you have been severely misinformed. And I know your influence wasn't from the darks side because Apple doesn't remove features, they only steal them from android and present it to the mindless mass as Innovation. Enjoy your sealed battery and 64 measly gb of storage. Just be sure to buy a memory stick to shove up your glass and metal butt... and while your at it, go ahead and fork over that extra doe for more data bc you'll be spending more time in that lovely cloud... and don't forget to insurance because not only is that $800 device the most fragile device on the market but it also a non removable battery constantly depleting behind that nice shinny glass back... and don't get in the habit of recording in 4k because it will make short order of that 32/64 gb, much like gear vr files.
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... and No, you are not a "hard core user." You, my friend, are food. I'm sure Samsung is deeply appreciative of you nourishment; helping them make it through the winter so they can try again next summer ... hopefully learning from their mistakes (ie note 5 and s6).
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No one is going to take you seriously with that attitude and bigotry.
On topic: Yeah this phone is a delight. Running the MM leak right now.

Can we keep this thread on topic thank you, I didn't make it to have people come here to complain about how Samsung did them wrong personally. Oh and Bruce Lee Roy you have ever some major issues not a phone that "lost features", if a phone a a thread about how much people like or love it make you this much of an geriatric butthead you have other things you need to be seen for, maybe a therapist will do you some good. Also me and my 800$ piece of awesomeness will have a great time together. While you sulk like a 2 year old.
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I had almost every top android device from late 2011 to late 2014. When iPhone got with the program and offered a 5.5" device and 128gb of internal memory I jumped ship for a bit. Just missed the camera, fast charging, and little tweaks you could do with Android so back at the note 5 I am and loving it. Truly disgusted they offer a 128gb S6 but leave the real flagship stuck at 64gb but I'll get over it.
Cant wait for the MM update and the Note6 eventually.