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People need to stop whining about dual core...

You guys who complain constantly that the Thunderbolt isn't running a dual core processor need to just stop and realize that software follows hardware development by months and years. That means that even if the TB HAD a dual core processor, not only would Gingerbread not be able to fully utilize it, but none of the software available in the market would know what to do with dual cores either.
When dual cores came out for PC systems, Windows XP wasn't even capable of using more than one core. They had to put out a new OS, Vista - which sucks - and then service patch the hell out of XP for it to take advantage of the dual core systems. Hell, Windows didn't even natively support Hyperthreading when Intel first announced it, it also took a huge patch to be recognized and dealt with by the XP Operating System.
All you guys complaining about not having dual cores in HTC phones should be THANKING HTC for giving us the most stable and best hardware on the market... No, they aren't "bleeding edge" like Samsung, but lets be honest here... How many Android users do you know who own any number of HTC phones, and how many do you know who are either not happy with, or returned their Samsung phones? I love the Droid 1, and don't get me wrong, the Droid Bionic looks like one badass phone, but I'll stick with HTC and stability any day over bleeding edge features that might not work for months because of the software not being able to keep up with the hardware changes.
Again, Gingerbread does NOT have the capability to take full advantage of dual core processors yet, so stop worrying about it, and just be happy with the fact that they are still producing phones for us that work, that people are pleased with, and don't get returned because of a ****ty UI or sluggish response compared to another phone. I dunno about you guys, but I'm getting a Thunderbolt on release day, and in three months, I'll upgrade another line to the next HTC release, and three months after that, and so on until I've replaced all 5 of my lines with brand spankin new HTC phones. Screw the lockdown on Moto phones - and even if the Bionic isn't locked down, it will still have Motoblur (read: failsauce) - and the crappy UI and toyish feel of Samsung phones... HTC is always on the forefront of Android development... and for everything they've given us in the Eris, the Incredible, and now the Thunderbolt, we should be a bit more appreciative.
Feel free to complain about the battery life, cuz yeah... it sucks.

What incentive do you have for upgrading if you already contain one of the countless other android phones that were released in the last year with
A 1ghz processor
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5/8mp HDR rear cam
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Including the DINC
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Better processor, better gpu, more ram, LTE.

karnovaran said:
Better processor, better gpu, more ram, LTE.
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Theres other phones with the same cpu and gpu releaaed in the past year, the DHD for example.
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Well yeah, but the DHD isn't available to Verizon users. The comparable for most of us is the Incredible and the Thunderbolt IS an upgrade, despite misconceptions about its processor.

The thunderbolt is an upgrade if:
A) you have a DInc but you're in one of 38 lte marketplaces
B) you have an eris
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A_Flying_Fox said:
The thunderbolt is an upgrade if:
A) you have a DInc but you're in one of 38 lte marketplaces
B) you have an eris
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and C) you're wife just dropped her D1 and broke the screen, and now you have to give her your Droid Incredible. heh.
I can pretty much guarantee an upgrade yearly thanks to her butterfingers...

A_Flying_Fox said:
A) you have a DInc but you're in one of 38 lte marketplaces
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A lot of us are in those markets.

Hoping to ditch my Eris as soon as this comes out. Hopefully they'll offer an early upgrade option since my contract doesn't expire until May. Still, that wouldn't be too long to wait. Here's hoping I don't get screwed with extra 4G prices since I won't be in any of those 2011 markets, and I only want a 1-year contract for this puppy.
Since the LTE functionality has it's own SIM, it could be removed if the user didn't want LTE and then VZW wouldn't need to charge extra for 4G. Of course, all of this would depend on VZW not being greedy and not following the Sprint's example... which is pretty unlikely, I guess.

LTE is the reason for change. As for XP... It handles multiple cores just fine, op.
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Casshern said:
LTE is the reason for change. As for XP... It handles multiple cores just fine, op.
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it handles multi cores fine now..
Not when it came out which is entirely his point.

Nastrodamous said:
it handles multi cores fine now..
Not when it came out which is entirely his point.
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This, exactly.
I'm still rocking my G1 that I got almost two years ago with T-Mo. Contract is up mid-Feb. I can't WAIT to hop on VZW with the Thunderbolt.

Well, I am rockin the Eris still, can upgrade in March, and I'm stuck between ThunderBolt, LG Revolution, and Samsung's no-name. I'm just disappointed because the ThunderBolt is essentially an Evo. So in the like 9 months since that was released, has HTC not made any advances? That's what's most upsetting to me, you know?

Totally. I have noticed every phone worth caring about for the last 6 months at least have had 4.3" screens. The last 4 or so HTC phones have been basically the same hardware. I understand the draw of the huge screen but I'm 5'2" so... HTC please give me thunderbolt specs in Eris / Nexus size >.<
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gee7201 said:
I'm just disappointed because the ThunderBolt is essentially an Evo. So in the like 9 months since that was released, has HTC not made any advances? That's what's most upsetting to me, you know?
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That would be upsetting if it were true. Luckily it's not.

Not all processors are created equal. The 1ghz processor is not the same 1ghz processor as the incredible (google pipelining). I think the incredible has a version 1 snapdragon and the thunderbolt is a version 3.
As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather have sense with a single core than blur with a million cores!
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I love you OP.

To the person that said they were waiting on the Samsung with no name. A little advice, save yourself because that phone will start off an entire OS version behind. And it won't even be samsungs flagship device as far as we know ATM. so it will likely never even get gingerbread. And even if it is a flagship device from them, look at the entire US galaxy s line. All five of them are "flagship" type devices. Question. Do they even have froyo. Answer. NO! I wasted almost $600 on that POS fascinate. That is actually a nice phone just doesn't have froyo. So don't waste any more time with Samsung. I think we, as paying customers needto make sure they pay a price for their disloyalty(word?).
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I have an eris. Every once in awhile I go on craigslist and search for stuff for sale. Found a like new Droid X with case for $200. They go for 300+ on ebay. Dude wants an iPhone I'll be picking it up on the 31st....already got the MEID from him and checked it with verizon.
I'm gonna use that for a few months and see what develops in LTE. I've seen rumors that Moto has been modifying Blur to make it less intrusive, more like vanilla. Should be able to get 200-250 for the DX ina few months.
I like the RAM increase in the Thunderbolt (can also OC) vs the Bionic. And, though still speculative since they aren't out, the TB should be easier to root and install custom roms.
Is the atrix the only upcoming phone with 1GB of ram? I can't find anything on the revolution.
The samsung is weird looking.

Time to upgrade already??

I've had the Captivate since XMas, and now with the Motorola Atrix being released March 1st by AT&T I have to have it.....
Why? Dual core 1Gig processors, 1 gig ram, front facing camera, FM radio, gorilla glass, 4G speeds, 1950 mah battery, a real LED light, etc..... and its a Motorola.
It's going to be a better more capable phone, but also very expensive, No price set yet, but its going for 650 euros which is 950 US give or take.
The good news is that all of the purchased apps will port over to the new phone
panflute

I don't see what's so great about it... Captivate already has Gorilla Glass, AT&T's 4G is equivalent if you already have a HSUPA-enabled Captivate, and Motorola makes some of the crappiest phones that I have ever used (not since the STAR-TAC have they made a good phone in my opinion).

People should treat these phones like our PC's. You buy one now, it's outdated around 6 months or less.
Double edge sword: Yay! I bought the latest and greatest!
****! I bought the latest and greatest 6 months ago.

Xstop said:
People should treat these phones like our PC's. You buy one now, it's outdated around 6 months or less.
Double edge sword: Yay! I bought the latest and greatest!
****! I bought the latest and greatest 6 months ago.
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Ain't that the truth..

Aus_Azn said:
I don't see what's so great about it... Captivate already has Gorilla Glass, AT&T's 4G is equivalent if you already have a HSUPA-enabled Captivate, and Motorola makes some of the crappiest phones that I have ever used (not since the STAR-TAC have they made a good phone in my opinion).
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Just because u enable hsupa doesn't make it equivalent to the atrix 4g....technically its not really 4g...its hsupa+ which the captivate does not have.... theoretically hsupa+ can achieve 4g speeds but not regularly. I feel the atrix is going to be a far superior phone. The only thing ill miss is my super amoled. And it has motoblur which motoblows but isn't as bad as touchwhiz but im sure it wont long until it gets rooted and roms are available. Plus it ships with froyo which we still have yet to officially get
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Doesn't att always remove the FM software?

Smallsmx3 said:
Just because u enable hsupa doesn't make it equivalent to the atrix 4g....technically its not really 4g...its hsupa+ which the captivate does not have.... theoretically hsupa+ can achieve 4g speeds but not regularly. I feel the atrix is going to be a far superior phone. The only thing ill miss is my super amoled. And it has motoblur which motoblows but isn't as bad as touchwhiz but im sure it wont long until it gets rooted and roms are available. Plus it ships with froyo which we still have yet to officially get
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HSUPA has nothing to really do with AT&T's 4g claims, it is HSDPA(which the captivate has) versus HSDPA+. It has more to do with download speed than upload. HSUPA is all about faster uploads. That is what is enabled by using an i9000 ROM, kernel, and modem. All current Galaxy S phones have HSDPA compatible modems, both physically and in software. The Captivate just got gimped without HSUPA speeds.
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Man its getting harder to keep up to. More than he crappy ass reality shows on TV.
*GalaxyS*

I'm confused by this thread. The title is a question, but the OP is a statement on getting the Atrix. How about making a question on the Captivate or go to the thread about what your future phone will be as that is older than this thread.

To upgrade or not?
And is it really an upgrade? I think this is a valid topic here since we all got our Captivates relatively recently. Since posting I found more info on the Tecra 2 processors. There are at least 5 phones set to be released and more coming for sure. The LG looks interesting too. I hear Motorola locked the bootloader on the Atrix. It may be too early to jump into an upgrade at this very moment till more details and facts are out. Cellhut is taking preorders for at Atrix ate $449, but there is a lot of negative comments out there on their business practices so that may be ill advised.
panflute

panflute said:
And is it really an upgrade? I think this is a valid topic here since we all got our Captivates relatively recently. Since posting I found more info on the Tecra 2 processors. There are at least 5 phones set to be released and more coming for sure. The LG looks interesting too. I hear Motorola locked the bootloader on the Atrix. It may be too early to jump into an upgrade at this very moment till more details and facts are out. Cellhut is taking preorders for at Atrix ate $449, but there is a lot of negative comments out there on their business practices so that may be ill advised.
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If you would have made your OP a question then it would have made more sense. You made a statement that "I have to have it." The bootloader will eventually get cracked, that is only a matter of time once the phone comes out. If you like Moto phones which seem up in the air for build quality that is up to you. Spec wise the Atrix is an upgrade, but that doesn't mean the Captivate or other SGS phones will be less superior. You also have to want the larger screen size and the fact it isn't SAMOLED.

panflute said:
I've had the Captivate since XMas, and now with the Motorola Atrix being released March 1st by AT&T I have to have it.....
Why? Dual core 1Gig processors, 1 gig ram, front facing camera, FM radio, gorilla glass, 4G speeds, 1950 mah battery, a real LED light, etc..... and its a Motorola.
It's going to be a better more capable phone, but also very expensive, No price set yet, but its going for 650 euros which is 950 US give or take.
The good news is that all of the purchased apps will port over to the new phone
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So what your saying is a phone coming out later is going to be better then the Captivate? I would hope it will be. Way to state the obvious bud.
But no, I will not be "upgrading" from the Captivate any time soon. The Captivate can do everything I need it to right now, and when I do upgrade to a new phone, it will be to a phone that is vastly more powerful, not just a little like the Atrix. Also I don't buy Motorola phones because they are garbage.

Upgrades upgrades upgrades....You guys will never be happy.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/24/nvidia-tegra-3-equipped-with-1-5ghz-quad-core-madness-teased-b/

gunstar3035 said:
I don't buy Motorola phones because they are garbage.
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Early upgrade from fascinate

Is anyone gonna complain about your phone to get this one for and early upgrade
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I tried it and they said it is actually up to the manufacturer if they want to switch you to another phone, funny story though the guy was like you rate an upgrade anyway.
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Good luck with that. Verizon can be pretty stiff. They usually wont consider swapping to a new phone unless you have like 3 problems or so with it and have to have at least 3 exchanges with a certain period of time.

Threaten to change carriers , worked for me a couple of years ago.
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jbh00jh said:
Threaten to change carriers , worked for me a couple of years ago.
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Thats hit or miss, they might just call your bluff.
best bet for OP is to pay full price for phone.
Then sell the fascinate for a few hundred and maybe pay a little more then new contract price.

You have to do with a store mgr. or a district mgr. , not a csr.
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Yeah...going with TNS207's suggestion....
But the Tbolt at full price and sell your Fascinate.
I'm due an upgrade but with so many devices coming down the pike I have convinced myself to pay the full price to avoid signing the 2 year contract. I've already got my DInc and all its accessories sold for $300.
It's the best move for me.

Hey , I understand . I'm a sales rep and don't have much trouble talking managers into seeing my way.
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I have two lines so I have an open upgrade but I am moving away from the fascinate the second this guy is on the street. I am currently working in a small town though, but I will be at verizon at 7am on the 24th to get one, hopefully being a small town and all they will have it in stock on launch day.

Besides the 4g and the camera....the fascinate has better hardware. Better CPU and GPU.
Nothing a Thunderolt can do that a fascinate cant?
Thats how android is built right now. Hardware specs mean nothing till apps can take advantage of it. Stick with your fascinate or get an iphone to see a true difference.
If not wait it out till some real good applications come out. Dont fall for the hype of the dual core processor either. Whats the point look at the games the iphone runs, amazing...nd its the same same cpu and a step below in gpu vs your fascinate. But those apps arent available for you fascinate so it makes it a moot point.

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Besides the 4g and the camera....the fascinate has better hardware. Better CPU and GPU.
Nothing a Thunderolt can do that a fascinate cant?
Thats how android is built right now. Hardware specs mean nothing till apps can take advantage of it. Stick with your fascinate or get an iphone to see a true difference.
If not wait it out till some real good applications come out. Dont fall for the hype of the dual core processor either. Whats the point look at the games the iphone runs, amazing...nd its the same same cpu and a step below in gpu vs your fascinate. But those apps arent available for you fascinate so it makes it a moot point.
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The Samsung Galaxy S are horrible. They are all laggy and slow. My bro and friend have them, one has vibrant and other has fascinate and both are slow as hell.

Wirefly did a youtube quadrant test on the TB and it scored a 1950.
Pretty darn fast.
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yeah, the bionic is only getting 2600 stock, but its locked so it will stay at that speed. We could see 3000+ with the TB after mods

Refer to my chart, the new TB has a better CPU and GPU
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/3dmarkmobile-gpu-showdown-adreno-205-vs-powervr-sgx540/

Galaxy s are laggy because of touchwiz!!!!
And the androidandme.com chart was accurate but the galaxy s was running 2.1 android!!! JIT doesnt play well with the hummingbird processor
Also for some reason android is built more with the snapdragon in mind!! Android cant take advantage of dualcore chips yeat either!!

The galaxy s line is laggy due to the filesystem it uses.

Fast or not, the TB will be a great phone just like the Evo and Inc before it, thats the bottom line for me, its not about milliseconds being faster or having crazy hardware that we cant harness. Out of the box the TB will be faster than a modified fascinate and HTC has better support for their phones meaning 2.3 and 2.4 updates, not to mentions the variety from xda.

And good HTC phones seem to have a lot more roms than the other brands.
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And good HTC phones seem to have a lot more roms than the other brands.
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Plus the phone is potentially already hacked as long as they don't change anything that would complicate the exploit(s) discovered..

Its too late in the game for HTC or VZW to change something, they came out with the exploit after the delay was issued, they would have to change 100,000 phones or more, it would take months.

Samsung Droid Charge?

Word on the street its that this phone is suppose to drop on 4/14/2011. Is Anyone getting this phone?
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With 4G, Super Amoled+, better camera, FFC, and hopefully better updates due to Droid branding, its still not worth an upgrade from most of the high end phones out there.
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Why do you say its not worth the upgrade? I'm only asking because I have one coming soon but I'm not sure where I want to go with it.
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TheSonicEmerald said:
With 4G, Super Amoled+, better camera, FFC, and hopefully better updates due to Droid branding, its still not worth an upgrade from most of the high end phones out there.
Why do you say its not worth the upgrade? I'm only asking because I have one soon and I'm wondering where to go with it. Any suggestions?
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With dual core and maybe quad core coming in fall, being stuck for two years with a phone that still poses the same speed as the Fascinate, a step towards dual core makes a little more sense.
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I am looking forward to seeing this new phone that sammy has to offer as well however i am not to sure quadcore is comming out this fall that probably is atleast a year down the road .

TheSonicEmerald said:
With dual core and maybe quad core coming in fall, being stuck for two years with a phone that still poses the same speed as the Fascinate, a step towards dual core makes a little more sense.
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(1) One-year contracts aren't killed until the 17th.
(2) It's better than the Thunderbolt, and lets you lock into unlimited LTE.

s44 said:
(1) One-year contracts aren't killed until the 17th.
(2) It's better than the Thunderbolt, and lets you lock into unlimited LTE.
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Well a whole lot depends on development...as much as j think the tbolt is meh it has a ton of people working on it and will almost certainly have official gingerbread by the summer
The charge is rfs and is unlikely to see gb in any reasonable amount of time...
I think the best comparison is the galaxy s 4g on tmo...even with all the galaxy s revs and on that carrier...that phone is a joke development wise....no virtually no roms kernels mods at all...and its been out for a little while now
If your happy with a pretty stock device that is barely an improvement over the fascinate.....then I guess the charge is alright

also it seems verizon killed 1 year contracts today already...check their website..no option for it

The only way I'd get a Droid Charge would be if my Fascinate broke. Otherwise, it's not enough of an upgrade to justify the cost. The only other reason I'd upgrade to it early is if they announced that unlimited 4g is ending. I feel that the Charge is closer to an upgrade from the Fascinate than the Thunderbolt, but neither are a significant jump.

Is it made by Samsung?
Oh..it is? Then nope, not getting it.

The unlimited 4g is my concern. I would have got the Tbolt if the camera and screen was any comparison at all. Honestly I do believe that once Big red drops the Gingerbread SG2 there will be a 2.3 upgrade for this phone (droid charge). But I could just be dreaming in la la land about that.
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The only way I'd get a Droid Charge would be if my Fascinate broke. Otherwise, it's not enough of an upgrade to justify the cost. The only other reason I'd upgrade to it early is if they announced that unlimited 4g is ending. I feel that the Charge is closer to an upgrade from the Fascinate than the Thunderbolt, but neither are a significant jump.
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well u could build kernels for yourself as i dont see anyone else getting it

I just received my upgrade for Verizon this month. I'm on a Droid 1 and love it, but I do have a few things that I would love to have better. I'm gonna check out the Charge once it releases (hopefully Thursday the 14th) and see how it runs. Can't decide if I want to wait for the Bionic or not though. The 768 MB of RAM in the T'bolt is tempting too. I just know ill be hitting a 1 year agreement instead of 2. This stuff moves too fast to wait 2 years.

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I just received my upgrade for Verizon this month. I'm on a Droid 1 and love it, but I do have a few things that I would love to have better. I'm gonna check out the Charge once it releases (hopefully Thursday the 14th) and see how it runs. Can't decide if I want to wait for the Bionic or not though. The 768 MB of RAM in the T'bolt is tempting too. I just know ill be hitting a 1 year agreement instead of 2. This stuff moves too fast to wait 2 years.
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I miss my Droid 1... gimme it... xD

zachchapter1 said:
I just received my upgrade for Verizon this month. I'm on a Droid 1 and love it, but I do have a few things that I would love to have better. I'm gonna check out the Charge once it releases (hopefully Thursday the 14th) and see how it runs. Can't decide if I want to wait for the Bionic or not though. The 768 MB of RAM in the T'bolt is tempting too. I just know ill be hitting a 1 year agreement instead of 2. This stuff moves too fast to wait 2 years.
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actually you wont be getting a 1 year upgrade cuz verizon killed those yesterday
and if your on xda..im assuming you care about development (roms/kernels/themes/mods)...well the bionic will be as locked down as the atrix (read boring)...and the droid charge unless its ridiculously close to the fascinate and jt and company decide to throw it a bone will have no development (look at the galaxy s 4g subforums for an idea)...if you *need* to get one of the 3 mentioned phones then the tbolt is the only legit option for development...personally id wait on better

From what I read, the 1 year contracts will end on the 17th so maybe if I like the Thunderbolt or the Charge ill grab it on the 1 year. And I do keep up with development on my Droid and a Coby Kyros tablet I have, both having different kernels and roms. I'll probably run whatever phone I get stock for awhile until a lot of testing and releasing gets done on each. And I get what you're saying with the Thunderbolt being the easier one (most likely) to be modded. I can't believe the Bionic us going to be locked down like that.

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actually you wont be getting a 1 year upgrade cuz verizon killed those yesterday
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Only via website.
Don't know why you're so initially invested in the Thunderbolt without owning one, but that's your business...

ataranine said:
I miss my Droid 1... gimme it... xD
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Ha My Droid has been put through the ringer. It's been dropped on concrete, rained on, and plenty else. Screens still solid and intact though. I love Motorola hardware. Been running at 1.1 GHz for a year straight now. The RAM sucks though which is why I'm so ready for an upgrade. The super AMOLED Plus would be nice to have too.

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Only via website.
Don't know why you're so initially invested in the Thunderbolt without owning one, but that's your business...
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personally i wouldnt get any of the upcoming phones...id hold out for a galaxy s2 if i stay on big red
but my point on the charge is...the galaxy s 4g is the closest case study to the potential development for the charge...and it has.......none
unless people buy jt and company charges...id imagine it would be the same scenario
the bolt (which ive made my stance of the bolt being antiquated already) at least will have working aosp in short order (they have 3g/4g working on cm7 as of last night)
the charge will be lucky to get clean roms and recovery

Thunderbolt being replaced by the Htc Vigor?

Check this out.
http://m.androidcentral.com/leaked-...nic-stratosphere-vigor-release-dates-and-more
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Edit: Some new pics of the Htc vigor, or whatever their going to call it.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/2...lte-and-1-5ghz-dual-core-processor-confirmed/

1.5ghz dual core, 720p screen, lte... i'm in... Who wants a thunderbolt?

If it's free ill take yours
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g00s3y said:
1.5ghz dual core, 720p screen, lte... i'm in... Who wants a thunderbolt?
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Nice specs, but what will be the battery capacity?
After this TB battery disaster, I dont think Ill ever consider another HTC unless it's packing like an 1800mah battery

I know I will be. HTC and Verizon dropped the ball with this phone

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If it's free ill take yours
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Free after a $300 donation, it's a donation so it's not like you are actually paying for the phone
crazed_z06 said:
Nice specs, but what will be the battery capacity?
After this TB battery disaster, I dont think Ill ever consider another HTC unless it's packing like an 1800mah battery
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No one has said yet, that's the big question, but I don't care. I can get 40+ hours out of my extended now on the TB. I'll get the extended battery when it comes out for it.

crazed_z06 said:
Nice specs, but what will be the battery capacity?
After this TB battery disaster, I dont think Ill ever consider another HTC unless it's packing like an 1800mah battery
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1800?... i say at least 5000mAh and a turbo charger that can charge it in 10 minutes!

My wife is getting my Tbolt and the Vigor will be my new monster. I cant wait for it. Im not complaining about the Tbol, Ill hit 1.8ghz, 63mflops and it runs CM7 like a raped ape but dual core is what ive been waiting for. Its so sad that the Bionic appears to get released 1 month beforehand and its been awaited for months and this beast will smoke it and appears to be using/ready for ICS with that screen and the processor.
Im excited...... and working overtime in advance

I read somewhere the Vigor will have a 3.5in screen. IF true, I wouldn't want it.
I'm still holding out for the next gen Nexus on Verizon LTE

Old MuckenMire said:
I read somewhere the Vigor will have a 3.5in screen. IF true, I wouldn't want it.
I'm still holding out for the next gen Nexus on Verizon LTE
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I wouldn't trust what you heard about that screen size. The Vigor has a 720p screen and a 1280x768 resolution. I'm betting it'll be a 4.3 incher or bigger. Coming from the Incredible, I'm gettin this bad boy for sure.
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I'll hold off my upgrade for more information on the Vigor. If it has a slide out keyboard and a 3.5" screen then im not interested. At the moment my beast mode Thunderbolt running Chingys latest Gingivitis is monster enough for me

I hope something with an unlocked bootloader and keyboard comes out soon. I saw a samsung epic like device a few weeks ago is expected for verizon. Well I saw a burry picture of one.
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I'm tempted to make either the Vigor or the Samsung Galaxy S2 my next phone. It just depends which comes out first, really. That, and if Verizon ruins the GS2 or not.
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crazed_z06 said:
Nice specs, but what will be the battery capacity?
After this TB battery disaster, I dont think Ill ever consider another HTC unless it's packing like an 1800mah battery
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If you think this phone sucked on battery life, try out the dInc. I could kill that battery in about an hour. At least this thing charges fast.

I thought the Vigor is supposed to have a 4.6" screen? I'm very interested in a slightly larger HD screen, but my Tbolt performs so well that I'm waiting to see what pans out with the Nexus Prime rumors.
Thanks, Robrecht

Thunderbolt 2 is coming in a few months.
I've seen the pictures of this and a few other phones from my corporate Verizon Rep.
A slew of new LTE devices are on their way, from the Xoom (yes, I you can send your current 3G zoom in and upgrade it to LTE when ready) to other offerings.
Honestly, I saw 6 or 7 devices...they are pushing towards dual core LTE hand sets.
I know...I know.... Cool story bro, pics or it didn't happen, etc.
MY VZW Rep told me and showed me pictures in complete confidentiality.
But I'm letting slip a TBolt 2 is on the way...in a few months.
All this being said, we've seen the delays and debacles for the original Tbolt, for the Bionic, etc. I'm only saying this is what I was shown and told just last week. Anything can change...as we all know.

So does this mean EOL for the TBolt? If so, that was short lived... only 7 months?? Such BS for their "flagship" LTE phone

Gotta remember...we are on Dinc2, X2, D3, etc.
Flagship phone, first and only of it's kind...and I HOPE they learned enough to make the 2 better.
I looked at my rep with big eyes....and before I could say it...he was like yep, a little more than a 6 month life cycle on the OG tbolt.

dajogejr said:
Thunderbolt 2 is coming in a few months.
I've seen the pictures of this and a few other phones from my corporate Verizon Rep.
A slew of new LTE devices are on their way, from the Xoom (yes, I you can send your current 3G zoom in and upgrade it to LTE when ready) to other offerings.
Honestly, I saw 6 or 7 devices...they are pushing towards dual core LTE hand sets.
I know...I know.... Cool story bro, pics or it didn't happen, etc.
MY VZW Rep told me and showed me pictures in complete confidentiality.
But I'm letting slip a TBolt 2 is on the way...in a few months.
All this being said, we've seen the delays and debacles for the original Tbolt, for the Bionic, etc. I'm only saying this is what I was shown and told just last week. Anything can change...as we all know.
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Good thing I went with 1 year contract before they got rid of them. Sounds like a lot of new stuff to chose from. Might leave Verizon though and try Sprint or T-Mobile. Especially since they seem to carry the Nexus phones.
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ddgarcia05 said:
I hope something with an unlocked bootloader and keyboard comes out soon. I saw a samsung epic like device a few weeks ago is expected for verizon. Well I saw a burry picture of one.
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HTC's not really going to launch them with unlocked bootloaders. They'll offer a tool online that unlocks it for you, but it voids your warranty. You didn't think they'd let you get away that easily did you? Lol
Just search it on Google. The info came out a couple days ago.
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