Should MS follow the plays footsteps? - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

After seeing the new sonyericsson play today I was amazed with its awesomeness,
Who here thinks MS should release their own phone similar to the play for the Xbox live games?
I think MS would profit alot from a device like this, something that is heavy on portable gaming but also ready for an everyday use of a phone.
C'mon Microsoft be innovative!

My personal opinion, these kinds of posts are getting old.
Someone makes something cool...
OMG MICROSOFT BE INNOVATIVE AND MAKE A CLONE.

I have to say that Microsoft shouldn't clone it. Every time they try to do something new they invent something which existed in the last 2 years. What they do is absolutely nothing, they just have enough money to advertise (check any linux they are much better then windows and it's FREE, that's why they aren't as popular as windows, it's impossible to advertise something ithout money)
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pillsburydoughman said:
My personal opinion, these kinds of posts are getting old.
Someone makes something cool...
OMG MICROSOFT BE INNOVATIVE AND MAKE A CLONE.
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What I'm getting at is Microsoft should make a portable gaming device, to compete with Sony's PsP, like the ps3vsxbox360s, you know what I'm getting at?
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Plants VS Zombies

This game is on Pc has it been ported to HD2 cant find anything on search but looks basic and pretty good.
I'm afraid that there is no winmo port nor any news about it, however it would be one of the coolest games for hd2 ever.
Might be able to get the swf file from the website version of the game running via flash lite on the hd2 (not tried)
That sucks why does the crappy iphone have all the good apps. Would be amazing if the HD2 could port the whole apple appstore
been waiting for this to be released on our HD2 for quite a while now.
otherworld said:
Might be able to get the swf file from the website version of the game running via flash lite on the hd2 (not tried)
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works in skyfire for me lol
Jammie_1989 said:
That sucks why does the crappy iphone have all the good apps. Would be amazing if the HD2 could port the whole apple appstore
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Probably because winmo phone owners don't support the microsoft app store enough to entice enough professional developers to put in the effort. They're happy to insult it even though its success/failure is probably related to the life blood of the windows mobile platform and their phone. I don't like Itunes/iphone as it is a horriblly closed platform - but millions buy from its app store so professional developers write for it and the platform (in terms of apps) flourishes. Yes, we've got a great freeware scene on windows mobile - but that doesn't attract professional developers who want to pay their bills with their talent.
I'd be interested to know why some of the best apps on XDA aren't on there - not every winmo/hd2 phone owner is going to go via XDA (unfortunately) but most will load up the app store at one point or another - xda could make a big difference to the perception of the microsoft app store (and hence the windows mobile platform as a whole) by releasing their best apps there too. Snowballs don't roll unless they're pushed.
otherworld said:
Probably because winmo phone owners don't support the microsoft app store enough to entice enough professional developers to put in the effort. They're happy to insult it even though its success/failure is probably related to the life blood of the windows mobile platform and their phone. I don't like Itunes/iphone as it is a horriblly closed platform - but millions buy from its app store so professional developers write for it and the platform (in terms of apps) flourishes. Yes, we've got a great freeware scene on windows mobile - but that doesn't attract professional developers who want to pay their bills with their talent.
I'd be interested to know why some of the best apps on XDA aren't on there - not every winmo/hd2 phone owner is going to go via XDA (unfortunately) but most will load up the app store at one point or another - xda could make a big difference to the perception of the microsoft app store (and hence the windows mobile platform as a whole) by releasing their best apps there too. Snowballs don't roll unless they're pushed.
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Excellent answer!
Spot on!!
otherworld said:
Probably because winmo phone owners don't support the microsoft app store enough to entice enough professional developers to put in the effort. They're happy to insult it even though its success/failure is probably related to the life blood of the windows mobile platform and their phone. I don't like Itunes/iphone as it is a horriblly closed platform - but millions buy from its app store so professional developers write for it and the platform (in terms of apps) flourishes. Yes, we've got a great freeware scene on windows mobile - but that doesn't attract professional developers who want to pay their bills with their talent.
I'd be interested to know why some of the best apps on XDA aren't on there - not every winmo/hd2 phone owner is going to go via XDA (unfortunately) but most will load up the app store at one point or another - xda could make a big difference to the perception of the microsoft app store (and hence the windows mobile platform as a whole) by releasing their best apps there too. Snowballs don't roll unless they're pushed.
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Its rather costly to put apps on Marketplace. And for the people who like to create free apps, it's counterproductive.
let's face it, winmo users have been used to sideloading apps for a decade...it isn't gonna change anytime soon.
SH4YD33 said:
works in skyfire for me lol
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I dare to say You are talking bull* sir... even if it works (I wasn't lucky enough to get through ad video) then I doubt if it's playable.
sigh... zuma 1.50 is so damn great.... imagine having pvz in Your pocket with same top notch quality.
kenkiller said:
Its rather costly to put apps on Marketplace. And for the people who like to create free apps, it's counterproductive.
let's face it, winmo users have been used to sideloading apps for a decade...it isn't gonna change anytime soon.
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This will change with WM7. Unfortunately, no backwards compatibility.
IMO, winmo users are completely different with Winphone 7 users
So "it's not gonna change anytime soon" quite right
kenkiller said:
Its rather costly to put apps on Marketplace. And for the people who like to create free apps, it's counterproductive.
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It's not costly at all to put apps on marketplace. You can get five apps put on marketplace for just $99. My first app made that $99 back on the 1st night it went on sale (and that's just a UK only one) with four app submissions still to go included in the price. Even apps at the most minimal cost will recoup that 99. Why is their such a negative feeling to (our own) the microsoft app store. Especially from us! It's better T&C's than the apple one - and that one we're completely jealous of! We're our own enemy.
XDA could get behind our app store, support it, and be a massive contributor to it!, but mainly just stop insulting it or criticising it, or only ever mentioning the freeware app stores - we're the only ones who'll end up suffering for it if it never grows and therefore never attracts more quality apps and therefore our platform just dies from lack of professional developer support. I love winmo, but phones these days are being judged by their app stores, just look at http://best-apps.t3.com/ as an example - it doesn't make any mention of the thousands of freeware winmo apps available, or xda apps, just what is in the official app store - and it's lack of apps there is making winmo look crap.
I really wish too that some of the top app writers from the iphone would port some of their wonderful apps, but I can also see why they don't bother with the way the app store is perceived at the moment.
XDA could make a real difference to our platform - but I'm worried we prefer to 'hide away' in our web site with a superior look on our faces rather than actually getting out and showing the world what hd2's etc. can really do.
it works on iphone

Microsoft's offers to webOS devs

Don't know if anyone's heard but apparently Microsoft is taking full advantage of webOS's fall. They are offer development free tools, phones and etc. Wow they waste no time.
Here's a link to the article.
http://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_o...nd_training_to_webos_developers-news-3026.php
DroidFreek said:
Don't know if anyone's heard but apparently Microsoft is taking full advantage of webOS's fall. They are offer development free tools, phones and etc. Wow they waste no time.
Here's a link to the article.
http://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_o...nd_training_to_webos_developers-news-3026.php
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Tell me about it. I do respect them on what their doing. Great devs lose their jobs, so they're up for grabs.
Microsofts making all the right moves.
Exactly, playing it smart.
Agree, smart move, but Android won't lose market share easily..
Only a plus to Microsoft.
yukinok25 said:
Agree, smart move, but Android won't lose market share easily..
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Oh not at all. Microsoft has a long way to go to catch up with the Android and Apple.
Honestly I feel the only reason Microsoft is down in the smartphone game is because
1- They don't advertise as much
2- They don't have a radically new WP7 that draws users to the phone
3- If they bundled their phones with computer sales, it would allow customers to easily jump into the os.
If they saw those three points and worked on them, it would send them up there with the big boys.
Problem is every court hates ms for integrating software into windows; you think giving away a basic phone with every dell will ease those tensions? Unfortunately, ms can't get away with the crap apple does with every pc, ipod, iphone and ipad.
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russ18uk said:
Problem is every court hates ms for integrating software into windows; you think giving away a basic phone with every dell will ease those tensions? Unfortunately, ms can't get away with the crap apple does with every pc, ipod, iphone and ipad.
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That's understandable. Still, it then goes back to advertising. It seems as if MS wants people to magically know about their devices.
I've only seen a commercial for the Surround about 5 times and that was it.
I'd be so pissed if I was a webOS developer. Excited to see more/better apps for Windows Phone.
but with this microsoft did a step forward, it could help to get some DEVs but i dont think that it will get better then GOOGLE OS
I had a palm treo as my first smart phone and it ran windows. it was terrible.. I'm sure they have gotten better, but that phone gave me a sour opinion on windows phones.. not so good then probably not so good now.. but it does make me curious to playing with a windows phone next time im at a best buy or other retail store with one on display..
Windows phones, just like android, are at their full potential when custom roms are created. I think if they were more devs into the os it could compete.
Why get off one sinking ship to get on another sinking ship?
"Why get off one sinking ship to get on another sinking ship?" vetvito
you think Mango will sink?
No money to be made there, just like WebOS. You get customers first, the devs will follow.
Microsoft should come back. Competition keeps the others sharp.
I kind of pity all of those developers who spent months developing for WebOS only to have it be trashed.
1.2 billion down the drain....
...wow just read up on all the money hp used to buy and develop webOS that number was just for the purchase of Palm inc.

Which platforms are most popular w/teens?

I'm interested in which platforms for which I should develop that I would reach the largest number of teens. My impression, in no particular order, is that I should concentrate on:
Android
iOS
Galaxy
Windoze Mobile
I'm guessing a lot of kids don't use BlackBerry.
Tbh, a crapton of teens use iOS, because its popular and "its the iPhone" but Android is also very common among teens. I don't think there are many Windows phone users but I have seen a few.
Don't know what you mean by galaxy
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Android and IOS. I've seen only one person with a Windows Phone. I'm actually a teen so it's coming from someone that knows. Lots of people are also using Nokias so Symbian or whatever they use.
Ninja_Harbinger said:
Android and IOS. I've seen only one person with a Windows Phone. I'm actually a teen so it's coming from someone that knows. Lots of people are also using Nokias so Symbian or whatever they use.
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Are you sure the nokias you saw weren't lumias? (wp7)
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http://www.sulake.com/press/release...droid-is-more-popular-than-ios-amongst-teens/
Mind you, I have no idea how reliable this is.
Android is the platform that you need to go for... A/Q to surverys more than 60% of smartphone used worldwide are Android based. Also, since android is cheaper and has a lot of choices teens can afford it.
I think now ... android.
android>IOS>win>others
This is a development forum. Not a popularity contest. Thread Closed.

One of those friends... Microsoft Fanboys

OMG...anyone got one of those Microsoft fanboy friends where they just won't shut up? Everything that isn't Microsoft is crap and everything that is Microsoft is superior. We i've got one... it just seems to be hyped up more with new windows 8 phones coming out.. Now i'm not anti Microsoft i like the OS and use it everyday however i don't think that there isn't any faults and that everything within it is perfect! I I I .Kill me now.
I have friends that think Apple is perfect Lol. I love Windows, but Microsoft is FAR from perfect.
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A) People are not going to agree 100% all the time because its just human law and honestly it would be boring. Debates spark knowledge where you learn more than agreeing because means you know.
B) Posting this in the android forums is useless. You'd get better answers in the windows. Maybe some threats too.
C) Android user's need a pc and since google doesn't have one, we use windows. Windows and Android people are allies in the war against apple.
D) If you really can't stand up for android, bring up the Zune. End of debate.

Which OS?

Hey guys! Which OS you all foresee that will become the next trendsetter in few years to come?
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Odp: Which OS?
Windows Phone and Windows 8 are getting more and more popular but personally i don't like the new metro interface and these OSes.
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Ubuntu! It's already gathered a lot of dev attention! Soon it will be a good competition for android!
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I guess I'm going for android or ubuntu. I'll probably start using ubuntu on my nexus but I may switch back to android. Hopefully we see easy porting of android apps.
Well they say that a mobile is has 10 years in it, and android may be the first to break that unless apple hire the next Steve jobs. Android has a decent push to keep momentum though I think that it will once again retract to being "the geek phone" is, which I Dont mind... I don't like android becoming so popular because future models will be dumbed down for the masses rather than suped up for us...
I think Ubuntu has a nice idea on paper and some eye candy but I think it isn't practicle in as application to be as widely accepted as iOS for the mainstream or as open and moddable (although it should be really, as its from Linux) to attract us nerds or devs beyond the initial "wow its Ubuntu on a phone" factor. It also relies on webapps rather than more mature os tactics of moving away from web apps, can't blame them though as they want lots if apps asap to compete.
RIM should change their name to RIP
I don't know enough about tizen or Firefox to comment but I think Firefox os is DOA tbh.
That leaves the mighty windows phone, building up a catalogue of Apps and mind share, original and beautiful design reflecting windows 8 and Xbox, as fluid and intuitive as iOS with more functionality, slowly becoming more and more open, Nokia are driving it... I believe that wp can do it! I think that by wp9 there will be a lot more openness to the is for devs but not as much as android, but enough to feel free, it will catch on to people moving away from ios or people with Windows 8 tablets and ultra books and it will be a big thing. I love android to death but I believe wp8 will be the big thing of the future.
I think a route android may go is like Linux, different builds rather than just different skins, android touch wiz os could be potentially a different os to motoblur android for example... That could be a goood or a bad thing if it does.
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Windows phone is ok, but Microsoft has always been so restrictive, I cant see it taking off and storming the market. Android, because its open for the world to develop, hone and improve. Microsoft cant keep up, they are too interested in money and not what the consumer wants. Heck just look at how fast android has evolved. Compare that to the backwards step taken by Microsoft with the introduction of Vista, a few years back.
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Windows phone is ok, but Microsoft has always been so restrictive, I cant see it taking off and storming the market. Android, because its open for the world to develop, hone and improve. Microsoft cant keep up, they are too interested in money and not what the consumer wants. Heck just look at how fast android has evolved. Compare that to the backwards step taken by Microsoft with the introduction of Vista, a few years back.
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Was vista really a backwards step or were people (me included) complaining that a brand new GPU/ram-heavy OS was running slow and buggy on our 7 year old computers?
Both Android and windows (inc windows phone) have made huge advances in the last 2 or 3 years, and I've seriously considered sueing apple for false advertising with "most advanced operating system" lol not that its a bad system but no software of apple is particularly advanced... But I wouldn't win because 'advanced' us not quantitative enough and only really subjective (though on the back of that they should not be allowed to claim that, either)
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I think BB10 OS will have a chance in the future
till now android is best, windows 8 is catching up lately, then we have ubuntu and mozilla os coming up head..its so exciting, and then recently bb10 is launched which got good reviews.

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