MWC - General Topics

MWC is here. Anyone keeping up with the new announcements?
The new Galaxy S phone looks amazing.
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The SGS II looks and sounds amazing. Hopefully Samsung will be better with updates this time around and work with the community a bit.

Yea,i read a few things that stated it was only coming to ATT and T mobile here in the states so I'm hoping at least some of that it's true, and soon too.
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I'll be at MWC from tuesday to thursday, anyone here going there too?

Mmm I'm currently a user of both samsung galaxy S and galaxy tab, and I have tio say that I'm disappointed with samsung... The stock rom s are very bad, the phone goes slow.fortunately, there is plenty of alternatives on internet, but none of them thanks tio samsung
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According to Taiwanese's online news....HTC Pyramid will be announced at MWC, and it will have dual camera to capture 3D videos....still waiting for official Pyramid specs....

Most of the phones are pretty cool. However, I'm most interested in the development pace of the processors within the next year. Seeing quad-core in a phone (for who knows why) is intriguing, yet makes me cry inside if I think about the impact it will have on battery consumption.

Qualcomm has announced a quadcore 2.5ghz CPU! Which uses 65% less power than the current ARM-based CPU cores!
http://androidcommunity.com/qualcomm-makes-a-broad-series-of-announcements-at-mwc-2011-20110214/
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Qualcomm has announced a quadcore 2.5ghz CPU! Which uses 65% less power than the current ARM-based CPU cores!
http://androidcommunity.com/qualcomm-makes-a-broad-series-of-announcements-at-mwc-2011-20110214/
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That's Insane!!!!! Maybe I can play Assassin's creed2 on it....ha ha..

Brumble said:
Qualcomm has announced a quadcore 2.5ghz CPU! Which uses 65% less power than the current ARM-based CPU cores!
http://androidcommunity.com/qualcomm-makes-a-broad-series-of-announcements-at-mwc-2011-20110214/
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But will it run Crysis?
Anandtech have a preliminary hands-on up on the Galaxy 2. Apparently the unit they had got very hot during use, which isn't surprising considering how thin the phone is.

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SGSZ (Tegra 2) goes through FCC

Samsung said all along they wouldn't have enough Exynos chips for worldwide distribution but nobody expected an alternate to be used in the U.S. Interesting choice.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/07/06/att-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-coming-with-tegra-2-cpu-not-exynos/
Edit: All the online rags picked up the SGSZ getting FCC approval as meaning it was supposed to be AT&T's SGS2. Turns out that's not true so I changed the title of this post from its original "AT&T SGS2 to use 1Ghz Tegra 2."
i don't see how this proves a Tegra chipset over the other???
It just shows the i903 model with AT&T bands... but this doesn't mean anything about what chip it has.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a Tegra based Super Amoled Plus phone... I just don't see it here other then speculation. It would be perfect if it has quadband HSPA for Tmobile and AT&T.
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i don't see how this proves a Tegra chipset over the other???
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The Attain (AT&T's SGS2) is late and the Tegra SGS2 was just pushed through the FCC with model codes that map to the AT&T version of the SGS1. It could fall apart but it kind of makes sense with the shortage of Exynos chips and Tegra being cheaper lowering AT&T's costs.
I will buy European model only....
i9103 is the Galaxy Z.
All the news sources are idiots and keep parroting each other with the wrong info.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-review-614.php
oh yea I saw that. SLCD Tegra 2...
I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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Im sure they will. cause even the old galaxy tab 7 inch already has hardware accelerated browser after the 2.3 Update.
Wikipedia lists the SGSII as a Tegra 2 device "in some regions", it's been listed that way for at least the month or so since I first saw it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra_2#Tegra_2_series
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Im sure they will. cause even the old galaxy tab 7 inch already has hardware accelerated browser after the 2.3 Update.
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GSM already has a preview. It doesn't have hardware accelerated browser. Still struggles to play 720p.
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GSM already has a preview. It doesn't have hardware accelerated browser. Still struggles to play 720p.
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Well, that confirms it. ATT got the **** end of the stick with weaker hardware.
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GSM already has a preview. It doesn't have hardware accelerated browser. Still struggles to play 720p.
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Of the Galaxy Z, which is this phone that you all seem to think is an SGS II.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-review-614.php
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I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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The Exynos has a faster CPU but a weaker dual core GPU
The Tegra 2 has a weaker CPU but a more powerful quad core GPU.
In reality, you probably won't see the performance differences as much as games stuttering. It does do some things well, like accelerated browsing and flash playback. But these things can be duplicated and probably will. It's like Benchmarking Quake 3 on newer ATI and Nvidia cards... sure one may be 15 fps faster, but when your running something at 400+ fps what does it matter? Both CPU/GPU combos are quick. My Nexus One ran Android great.
The reason why I went Tegra 2 are for 2 reasons:
1. All of the tablets coming out are Tegra 2's. So if the next version of Android (Ice Cream) comes out, Google will make sure Tegra's are sitting pretty. With Ice Cream allowing GPU OS components, it will be harder to make sure all the apps work with off the wall side processors and graphics processors.... Maybe everything will just work. I dunno but my logic is that the more tegra devices the more support you'd get.
2. Android is fragmented. Tegra is trying to solve that. They aren't trying to sell a new phones with 1000 different processors and GPU combinations. They are trying to stabilize and pump up the development community. For that I give my support. If Tegra's can become the mainstream GPU for Android, then imagine all the games and apps we'd have.
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I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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The less powerful one did ~4000 quadrant stock.
Would you guys stay on TMO or switch to ATT? Because you'll only get 2G speeds if you use the Euro or ATT GS2 on TMO's network.
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Would you guys stay on TMO or switch to ATT? Because you'll only get 2G speeds if you use the Euro or ATT GS2 on TMO's network.
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Couldn't wait for tmo sgs2, jumped ship from tmobile/g2x to att and got the euro sgs2. One advantage is att doesn't recognize the sgs2 imei and we can use the $15 unlimited data for non smart phones.
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At least this confirms my decision to pick up the G2x in regards to the Sensation or the US SGS2.
The Sensation was slowest right out of the gate and didn't offer anything impressive enough to pick. The toughest choice was between the G2x and SGS2, Tegra vs Super Amoled Plus.
Now if the Tmo SGS2 has a Super Amoled Plus screen and Tegra 2, I'd use my upgrade for that. But when it finally releases we'll probably be hearing a lot about Tegra 3 phones and Ice Cream.
I might just sit on my G2x for a while and wait it out.
My bad. I started this thread after reading all the U.S. online rags saying the AT&T SGS2 was going to be Tegra. They all ran stories after the "i9103" (the SGS2 is i9100) got FCC approval. Like someone said above, the Tegra phone, i9103, is the SGSZ and the one GSM Arena reviewed. So having been approved by the FCC it might be coming to some North American carrier but it's definitely not going to be AT&T's SGS2.
The SGS2's 2.3.4 update got leaked a couple of days ago and in it a dev found code for AT&T LTE as well as their custom 4G icons for the notification bar. So, based on that, I'd guess they're getting the original SGS2 and it's probably going to be their first LTE phone. They're launching LTE in Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Atlanta and Chicago this Summer so I'd guess it'll launch in the next two months.
Sorry I didn't correct this thread earlier, I forgot I posted it here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162330

HTC Sensation is better than SGS2

HTC chip-set of 1.2 dual core and andreno 220 is far more better that SGS2's 1.2 dual core and 2008's Mali-400 chip-set. I used both the handsets and now using HTC Sensation after SGS2.
The main problem with HTC is it's locked boot-loader and it's stock rom which is really not ready to use the full power.. The power is not equally distributed. Benchmark is not everything as sensation has issues with sense 3.0 and better pixels than the SGS2. Below is some link where you can understand the whole technical issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-adreno-220-gpu/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169376
The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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I prefer the sensation to sgs2 regardless of benchmarks or performence, mostly because of sense and nicer aesthetics
But I do have one concern, if you got to system/lib/egl, all the libs say adreno 200, could that be affecting performance?
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Actually the OP is right about the adreno 220 being better than the mali 400. The difference is the way samsung optimized the performance of their GPU with drivers and such. But for what the GPU can do spec wise, adreno 220 is superior. Too bad htc did not do a good job of showcasing that.
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The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.
I trialed one on ATT...and: No its not...(unfortunately)
I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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jony013 said:
Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.
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Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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It will not be August/September for the Sensation. Yes it will be unlocked but that is when the custom rom process begins. It will be weeks to months later before you get any stable releases of everything.
The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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Exactly, I buy whatever phone I like and right now I use a Sensation and a G2X. I think the Sensation is better than the G2X but I think the GSII is better than the Sensation and I'm not affraid to admit that just because I own the Sensation. If people think the Sensation is better than the GSII then they think the Sensation is the best Android phone available right now since almost every review I've read labels the GSII the best Android device to date. In fact, 9 out of 10 reviews state the GSII took Android to the next level but I haven't read any review stating the Sensation took it to the next level. Maybe if HTC would have released it with optimized drivers we would see reviews stating such.
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I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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My Sensation gets extremely hot when playing Homerun Battle 3D and my G2X gets no where near as hot when playing the same game. In fact, after playing for 30 minutes it gets so hot that sometimes my screen becomes unresponsive to touch but the accelerometer still works. I think its definitely a driver issue but something shouldn't be getting so hot that it renders the phone useless.
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I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer
That site is funny.
"These benchmark tests shows that Tegra 2 takes the lead over Exynos in almost every category. Specially, this is especially true for mobile gaming."
Looks like everything is better than Exynos.
But you are wrong, sensation is weak.
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Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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Sounds to me your phone is syncing in the background
Hey people!! This reminds to me, old times with the HTC HD2 ( quetly brillant )
jajajaja yea yea... just quietly brillant... with the optimized drivers!
I have to laugh at all these banchmarks between the two...they aren't exactly valid.
The Sensation has a higher res screen that is has to push...which obviously means it has more work to do....it's not a fair comparison.
And in any case...benchmarks mean nothing to me...I chose to buy the Sensation because it looks so much better than the GS2, it has a better interface in Sense 3, and it's HTC
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My device syncs nothing but gmail. I have everything off including the HTC weather. I wouldn't even call my Gmail syncing since I'm using the Gmail app which uses push.
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Hoggles said:
I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer
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My Sensation doesn't get hot near the battery. It gets hot at the very bottom where all of the internals are.
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HTC One X Krait OR Tegra 3

Hey Forum, I am pretty sure that a lot of people in this forum are going to be switching to the One X in Q2 of this year. Since I live in North America, we will only be getting the Krait. I believe that it isn't much of a loss, according to the benchmarks anyway. What is your opinion?
Well, T-Mobile is rumor to be getting One X with Tegra 3 with AOSP for US, and EU version is Sense 4. If this true i'll definately getting One X. If not its hard to choose One X and Galaxy S 3.
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Depends on the power consumption.
Benchmarks showed that the S4 SoC is a beast, but not much words on the power consumption.
As for the SGSIII - the fullHD display sounds good
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Well, T-Mobile is rumor to be getting One X with Tegra 3 with AOSP for US, and EU version is Sense 4. If this true i'll definately getting One X. If not its hard to choose One X and Galaxy S 3.
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Sense is a critical point of One X , no way HTC is going to allow AOSP versions regardless of country
i fail to see how this phone will be significantly better than the sensation.....
Wow. Cool. Rad.
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i fail to see how this phone will be significantly better than the sensation.....
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I think the same.
But OLED screen would be good reason...
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Sense is a critical point of One X , no way HTC is going to allow AOSP versions regardless of country
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HTC G2 US version is AOSP, T-Mobile will market One X as their G series with AOSP. US carrier especially T-Mobile have a strange ways to market their phones.
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i fail to see how this phone will be significantly better than the sensation.....
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Read these:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...ormance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
HTC One X power consumption
Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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As for the SGSIII - the fullHD display sounds good
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Full HD sounds pretty damn awesome
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Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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Baseless assumptions. NA is "stuck" with the Krait?
The Krait is based on a new architecture (similar the Cortex A15) and can asymmetrically clock each core unlike the T3 or any of the ARM-based chips. It is also based on the 28nm process, which should bode well for power consumption and heat.
I'll take the Krait over the T3 any day of the week. I am glad that we are "stuck" with the Krait.
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Baseless assumptions. NA is "stuck" with the Krait?
The Krait is based on a new architecture (similar the Cortex A15) and can asymmetrically clock each core unlike the T3 or any of the ARM-based chips. It is also based on the 28nm process, which should bode well for power consumption and heat.
I'll take the Krait over the T3 any day of the week. I am glad that we are "stuck" with the Krait.
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I agreee...Snapdragon S4 dualcore is a lot better in battery life and performance than Tegra 3.
Nvidia SoC stuck on an ARM Cortex A9 45nm...
I'm in italy, so in my country i will see onli One X with Tegra...so i'll probably buy it from US with Snapdragon S4 xD
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Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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Not true. Tegra 3 is made using 40nm process, while the S4 is made in 28nm. The 28nm process can be a lot more energy efficient. Although the Tegra 3 includes a 5th low power companion core, it is being used only in light weight task, in which case the same applications won't be consuming much power on the S4 either. When the Tegra 3 is running at it's full power, it's definitely consuming more power than the S4.
That is not to say that the Tegra 3 is a battery sucker and the S4 is not. There is just not enough tests out there to judge. And thus far all the Tegra 3 benchmarks are only done with the Transformer Prime.
I'd have to say this, neither of them is really slower than the other in all scenarios. If I were to choose between them, my deciding factor would definitely be real world battery life (and maybe LTE, at this moment I don't really care about it too much). I'm sure there will be tons of tests comparing the two once the One X is physically launched.
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I think the S4 is a better dualcore and the Tegra 3 is just an soc to promote the quadcore name. pretty much marketing issue. Not saying its not any good, benchmarks proves it's got some power. I just think it is to early for quadcore phone. S4 proves it.
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Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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Well, actually the Tegra 3 only uses the compagnion core when idle, so it's likely that the Snapdragon S4 version is more efficient in practice.
Krait is better. I hope T-Mobile releases their G4X with the Krait.
I said this months ago... If this phone becomes the G3 or some other naming scheme I will be all over it regardless of the SoC... But Apples to Apples I'd take the Krait hands down... Snapdragon support has proven to be overwhelming in the dev community.
And people that fail to see how this is better than the sensation.. You clearly don't have your eyes open.
According to all the benchmarks and reviews I've seen the Krait kills the Tegra 3. And it has better battery life and LTE?! Yes please! And for everyone saying LTE sucks battery life you're right, but the One X for Sprint is rumored to have a 2650mah battery, hell yes if that's true!
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HTC One XXL [RUMOR]

Android users have become power-hungry - dual-core processors no longer cut it. If you're among that crowd, this next rumor should give you a twitch of excitement - an HTC One XXL with two extra cores than the XL, better graphics and more RAM.
A couple of leaked screenshots show some of the specs of this purported beast - a 4.7" 720p screen, 8MP main and 1.8MP secondary cameras and a codename, "Closurexxl".
The chipset specs of the One XXL are more interesting though - a quad-core processor (reportedly a Snapdragon S4 with Krait cores), 2GB of RAM and an Adreno 320 GPU plus LTE connectivity.
One chipset matches the description - the Qualcomm APQ8064. There's an old rumor of the HTC Zeta with that chipset and roughly similar specs, but that's from before the HTC One series came to be.
Thanks for the tip, Chris!
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Mother of god...
Yusei said:
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Mother of god...
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If this rumor is real the performance will be absolutely superb
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Holy that seems to be the cutting edge power device if it really comes up
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This sounds wicked, but -- what kind of battery does this thing have? I hope at least something around 2000 - 2500 mAh
With that much power... I COULD TAKE OVER THE WORLD... from my phone :good:
2010: Year of Single Core Phones
2011: Year of Dual Core Phones
2012: Year of Quad Core Phones
2013: Who knows probably this is going to be the year of Penta Core phones..?
I would rather wait 1 year than buying this phone.
Who knows maybe Galaxy S4 may have such cpu, 2Gb ram and GPU clocked by default at 600MHz..?
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I can see phones soon to get six core processors. Can't wait to see what Nvidia or Qualcomm has to offer in the near future.
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Wow, that is something. But i don't think they would put more then 2000mAh. The Krait processor's are indeed lees power hungry and HTC as always would bet on that and humor us with a small battery.....
I hope we can see some competition with Note 2
nightfire37 said:
I can see phones soon to get six core processors. Can't wait to see what Nvidia or Qualcomm has to offer in the near future.
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Intel will overcome all current chipsets by outperforming not only in terms of performance, but also in power usage. Who needs a 6-core chip in a phone?
I'd be happier seeing similar performance to what we now have with SGSIII and HTC OneX but with lower battery consumption. Surely that'll be the new priority?
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2010: Year of Single Core Phones
2011: Year of Dual Core Phones
2012: Year of Quad Core Phones
2013: Who knows probably this is going to be the year of Penta Core phones..?
I would rather wait 1 year than buying this phone.
Who knows maybe Galaxy S4 may have such cpu, 2Gb ram and GPU clocked by default at 600MHz..?
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buy an LG Optimus Me, Download 10 apps, then come back to me.
^ he said GPU not cpu, the gpu that Me had was clocked at around 128mhz.
Ansticexvi said:
^ he said GPU not cpu, the gpu that Me had was clocked at around 128mhz.
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Whoa! I officially hate my own phone....
Luk_Sch said:
If this rumor is real the performance will be absolutely superb
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Oh yeah if you call pointless amounts of CPU power that mostly NEVER gets fully accessed by any app. Combined with battery life that is measured in hours by the number of fingers on one hand.
Oh but you'll all be able to talk king of the hill garbage to your peasant friends who only own those obsolete dual core phones ......... hmmmm we droid users are soooo much more clued up and analytical about our hardware than iphone/iOS users aren't we
DD-Ripper said:
2010: Year of Single Core Phones
2011: Year of Dual Core Phones
2012: Year of Quad Core Phones
2013: Who knows probably this is going to be the year of Penta Core phones..?
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Manufacturers will keep this nonsense up until customers stop being so mindlessly obsessed with having a pointlessly macho CPU.
Dual cores are pretty OTT themselves, quads are just silly really, anything else is just a pure marketing exercise, but they are easy to market to the simple minded.
There are a pile of Android phone issues that need WAY more attention than shoehorning more unusable CPU power into phones.
jhjhjhjh said:
Who needs a 6-core chip in a phone?
I'd be happier seeing similar performance to what we now have with SGSIII and HTC OneX but with lower battery consumption. Surely that'll be the new priority?
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Exactly but manufacturers find it way easier to sell EXTRA CPU. As the more important issues that need fixing, like battery life, Data/GPS reliability,etc are maybe a little too nuanced to attract the attention of the mid teens maturity market that largely drive this CPU over speccing.
Guru Zeb i agree with you. But that doesn't mean we can't admire the specs. I don't drive a muscle car either but i loooove them More CPU and GPU at one stage are pointless but it is fine by me, let them grow.....
What are we gona use or already using is matter of oppinion
I'm more worried about power consumption than more cores or higher clock speed. A quad core with 2gb of ram is enough for what I do with android. I just want a battery to last me through the day.
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I'm more worried about power consumption than more cores or higher clock speed. A quad core with 2gb of ram is enough for what I do with android. I just want a battery to last me through the day.
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That's very relatively.
What I'd really like to see is something with just the dual core version of S4 Pro, but with maybe 2 GHz-2.2 GHz clock speed, and highly improved power efficiency in the modem and in the CPU through various little tricks to bring down power usage all around, and then have dual channel 2 GB of RAM.
That's the power needed for basically everything on the market, after that what's most important is everything else. Industrial design (built to last well beyond 2 years), replaceable battery, expandable memory (support for exFAT and UHS-1 microSD please), INCREDIBLE RADIO RECEPTION (WiFi, cell voice/data, BT, GPS, NFC should all be incredibly good at holding onto signal without using immense amounts of power), fantastic display (S-LCD2 minimum quality), and it needs to both look good if possible, but most importantly, feel good and easy to hold in the hand. Stunning battery life, both when the screen is off and on. When the screen is off the battery should basically not drain at all, when the screen is on it should sip power, maybe last as long as 8 hours when web browsing on 3G...

New Snapdragon S4 quad core benchmarked.

And wow.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/24/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-pro-apq8064-benchmark/?m=false
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Put it in s4!
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Over 7500 quadrant, Jesus...
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Over 7500 quadrant, Jesus...
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Even if it's a quadrant score, supposedly doubling the power and ability of the T3 and even leaves the dual core S4 in it's trail.
That's some serious power.
No Way!
That is just Nuts. Technology is just moving soo fast.
I've been saying it all along-if you want a true generational leap above 2011 processors, Quad core Krait + Adreno 320 or A15 Exynos + Mali T-604 are the way to go. I can't believe how glad I am that I've held out with my Sensation while upgrade addicts have SG3s and One Xs for the next few years (unless they upgrade again). And don't kid yourself-these SoCs will be used for no less than 5" full 1080p displays.
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only got one word to say; WOOOOOWWWWWWW
Apparently they're selling the developer's tablet with this processor for $1300.
cool but we will see this next year not this year.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/qualcomms-quadcore-snapdragon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
Great performance preview of this. As excited as I am for this, I'm honestly worried that the GPU may not be as impressive as I was hoping. The iPad still appears to be the king of the GPU hill, so although Adreno 320 is a step forward from Adreno 225, it still isn't "blown-away" status, unlike the CPU. Now this isn't a final version of what we will see in consumer products, so maybe there's more to be seen, but I'm already beginning to wonder if A15 Exynos + Mali T-604 will be a better combination (assuming Mali T-604 lives up to the hype that it will blow all other GPUs out of the water). Then again, we're not sure what will appear on only tablets and what will appear on phones as well, and both should be plenty powerful, so maybe it won't matter which one will be better.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/qualcomms-quadcore-snapdragon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
Great performance preview of this. As excited as I am for this, I'm honestly worried that the GPU may not be as impressive as I was hoping. The iPad still appears to be the king of the GPU hill, so although Adreno 320 is a step forward from Adreno 225, it still isn't "blown-away" status, unlike the CPU. Now this isn't a final version of what we will see in consumer products, so maybe there's more to be seen, but I'm already beginning to wonder if A15 Exynos + Mali T-604 will be a better combination (assuming Mali T-604 lives up to the hype that it will blow all other GPUs out of the water). Then again, we're not sure what will appear on only tablets and what will appear on phones as well, and both should be plenty powerful, so maybe it won't matter which one will be better.
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If Android only came on one tablet from one manufacturer, you could optimize the hell out of the software to take full advantage of the hardware. But that's not the case. For Apple, it is.
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If Android only came on one tablet from one manufacturer, you could optimize the hell out of the software to take full advantage of the hardware. But that's not the case. For Apple, it is.
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It's a price to pay. A price well paid from us all.
Absolutely ridiculous.... as for the price tag.
hullbay said:
Absolutely ridiculous.... as for the price tag.
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That's a development tablet for you.
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That is insane. I was pretty proud of my rezound 6 or 7 months ago. Apples and oranges.
Personally I don't game on my phone though, so at a point I gotta wonder when enough is enough.
paintball23456 said:
cool but we will see this next year not this year.
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We will see it this year.
KingKuba13 said:
We will see it this year.
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We won't. Period
send from my brain to your con
The Janitor Mop said:
I've been saying it all along-if you want a true generational leap above 2011 processors, Quad core Krait + Adreno 320 or A15 Exynos + Mali T-604 are the way to go. I can't believe how glad I am that I've held out with my Sensation while upgrade addicts have SG3s and One Xs for the next few years (unless they upgrade again). And don't kid yourself-these SoCs will be used for no less than 5" full 1080p displays.
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If its adreno 320...
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It will kill more than 20 adreno 200's!!!
I wonder what the benchmarks of processors will be in 10 years from now.... That will be great to see.
This is amazingly ridiculous in terms of power. Surely, this is wonderful for the development of hardware but there must be some focus on letting everything else follow. When will there be a battery that can actually withstand this power? I would love having the power and more than 24 hours of battery life at the same time.

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