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Hey all, first post here. Currently I'm interested in the Rogers Galaxy S Captivate (seem to be a million different versions of the galaxy which is quite confusing). Beyond a few basic reviews/unboxings I can't really find much information on this phone. Without doing a long drawn out post I'll cut to my questions quick (I apologize if I'm posting this in the wrong forum and the noobish questions):
- What are peoples general experiences with this phone? Loves and hates?
- Froyo support, is there an official Froyo build from rogers or is it limited to 3rd party ROMs etc?
- When it comes to 3rd party ROMs etc, just how mod-able is this phone?
- Is WiFi tethering possible/available with a 3rd party ROM?
Thanks ahead of time.
1) random shutdown issue with one of my phones. GPS problem with second. Third was fine (GPS/no shutdowns) but the build is "creaky". GPS is really fast and accurate and no problems. Battery lasts decent, depends how much you have the screen on for. Right now I can last 4 hours on idle with wifi/3G on and lose maybe 1%. Of course, nothing is really going on.
2-4 No clue yet. Haven't flashed. Kind of waiting for Froyo release from Rogers.
bought a captivate directly from rogers the day it came out off-contract. GPS worked perfectly, even weeks after, navigation and all still locked fast and accurately. However, as far as I am concerned, the 2.2 froyo release by rogers is still not out..so i rooted the phone through download mode with a .zip (took 5 seconds), and since then, have flashed every rom you could imagine. All running great, the phone has restart once..randomly, but other then that, battery life and all has been super good. Haven't had any problems, so i'd say it's pretty good if you have any more specific questions, feel free to ask. and btw, wifi tethering is possible, at least with froyo on any of the main 3rd party roms.
Wifi tethering was in stock rom just so you know. Go into wifi settings
I think you should be okay since you're getting it much later than most other people... I think I'm included as well. I had the shutdown problem but a factory reset fixed it, so I think it was just a software issue on my end. GPS is still spotty, works great and accurately but sometimes doesn't. I also have the slight problem with search popping up randomly, but I am not too bothered by that.
Otherwise it's fine, I love this phone. Everyone is so intrigued when I pull it out.
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bought a captivate directly from rogers the day it came out off-contract. GPS worked perfectly, even weeks after, navigation and all still locked fast and accurately. However, as far as I am concerned, the 2.2 froyo release by rogers is still not out..so i rooted the phone through download mode with a .zip (took 5 seconds), and since then, have flashed every rom you could imagine. All running great, the phone has restart once..randomly, but other then that, battery life and all has been super good. Haven't had any problems, so i'd say it's pretty good if you have any more specific questions, feel free to ask. and btw, wifi tethering is possible, at least with froyo on any of the main 3rd party roms.
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Thanks a lot. In your opinion, what's the best 2.2 ROM? One I've heard mentioned the most is Cognition.
desmopilot said:
- What are peoples general experiences with this phone? Loves and hates?
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In general, the phone is really quite good. The Rogers stock GPS doesn't have the issues that the AT&T GPS appears to have, but the modem is HSDPA not HSUPA so upload speed is limited to around 300-400 Kbps and download is limited to around 5Mbps max). Rogers also don't put on a load of bloatware which is really quite nice. Stock Rogers phone even comes with tethering enabled (USB or WiFi using MyAP). With my phone I can't really say I had any "Hates"..a few minor annoyances, such as
- the contact groups (in stock) never syncs the Google Groups
- the calendar app has no "conference call" option, I had this on my OpenEtna phone
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- Froyo support, is there an official Froyo build from rogers or is it limited to 3rd party ROMs etc?
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No official Froyo support as yet. Rogers saying early 2011. Froyo is only available in custom ROMs based on a leaked ROM and now also based on the GT-i9000 (e.g. Galaxy S "Vibrant" from Bell...as well as some stuff from the Telus "Fascinate" too), as there are official Froyo builds for that (which are not without their own problems too).
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- When it comes to 3rd party ROMs etc, just how mod-able is this phone?
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Very easy, particularly from rogers as they have not prevented you from loading software in any way, so you can simply download z4root or oclf or the like, directly to your phone from it's browser and run it locally to root your phone. There are a few ways to install the ROMs but they are mostly detailed in their own announcement threads and pretty much cover the bases. There is also a ROM installer HowTo in the QnA or Question section of the Samsung Captivate forum.
- Is WiFi tethering possible/available with a 3rd party ROM?
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Almost all ROMs yes...and also in Rogers stock.
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Thanks a lot. In your opinion, what's the best 2.2 ROM? One I've heard mentioned the most is Cognition.
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All of the ROMs that the Chefs put out are really quite good. It mostly comes dow to a personal preference. One thing to be aware of is the ROM limitations. These are usually listed in their announce thread too:
Note that if you want HSUPA (up to 5.6 Mbps up/7.4 Mbps down) then you need one of the i9000 based modems. You can often put different modems from different ROMs into your own phone, but there are some limitations. The modem should come from the same build (e.g. don't put a 2.1 modem in a 2.2 ROM), some modems are HSDPA only (e.g. the Rogers and AT&T based ones) and that the modem bin is used for more than modem processing, it appears to be used in DSP so it affects that voice call handling. With some modems as a result, you may not be heard on a voice call..so test. It's not to big a deal as you can easily swap out a modem for another.
Cogntion and Perception are ROMs both by DesignGears. I liked them both but couldn't get the combination of features I wanted (which they NOW have) and I couldn't get hold of DesignGears to provide me with his set-up for compiling the kernal (one of the few chefs that compiles his own kernels...most use kernels from other people). To my thinking Perception is more "active" than Cognition leading to cognition being (considered by some) more stable...but it's just a matter of preference. I think that Cognition is not capable of HSUPA but Perception is...though withough checking I may have that the wrong way around.
Axura 2.5 is what I am currently running, though there will be no more development on the "old" Axura because AdamHolden, the latest Axura chef received too many negative comments for his liking and quit. He is starting a new ROM with a team rather than as an individual (see here).
I hear good comments about Assonance, but haven't tried it since using Axura as it fit all my needs.
There are also many others. Just take a browse through the "Captivate Android Development" forum and you will see a number of [ROM] threads. Take a quick read of atleast the first 3-4 posts on the thread as those are used to identify the current version, features, state and issues.
desmopilot said:
- What are peoples general experiences with this phone? Loves and hates?
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I love my SGS. Feels very snappy with some tweaking and a different launcher, battery life is 24-48 hours with average usage (again with some settings tweaks). No GPS or Shutdown issues on my side and I bought the phone when it was first available. A few people at my work have the phone and I've heard no issues with it at all. One tiny issue I have seen is that some texts seem to come in with an incorrect time stamp. They seem to be about 5 hours off. This can be easily fixed with a simple app so I don't even think about it anymore.
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- Froyo support, is there an official Froyo build from rogers or is it limited to 3rd party ROMs etc?
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As has been mentioned before, no Froyo yet but that's pretty standard for Rogers. On the plus side there is a Gingerbread ROM being made which looks very sexy in the I9000 forums by supercurio and others.
desmopilot said:
- When it comes to 3rd party ROMs etc, just how mod-able is this phone?
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I rooted my phone in a matter of minutes with z4 root, very simple, one click. I have tried to lag fix my device using oclf but it failed. I know it's not the phone though since a friend of mine has the same phone and his works great. If you like quadrant stats, he's right up there. I personally haven't used any ROM's yet but I will be in the near future. From what I can see there are a lot of ROM's available and it seems like a pretty simple process.
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- Is WiFi tethering possible/available with a 3rd party ROM?
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Haven't bothered, I don't need it so I don't know.
I definitely recommend this phone
No issues for a (relatively) simple user that just wants froyo. Love how un-branded rogers left this phone compared to my SE dumbphones and whatnot.
Never tried thethering (as i have no idea how much data i have left)
GPS Test gets a lock within 15 or so seconds with 50ft accuracy (lowers down to around 30 after a bit)
I think i had one of the newer batches (purchased from corporate - early December)
Thanks a lot for the replies all! Looks like i'll be hopping one the Captivate wagon pretty soon.
nevermind, my mistake.
The Captivate is amazing with Rogers, my wife and I both have one and they are fast, solid build, and just a joy to use.
If you want to see a video of mine, just search on youtube "gunstar1981"
Its a really great phone, hope you get yours soon!
Hi There! I've scoured the forums, but haven't been able to definitively find my answer. And thus I submit my first supplication to the XDA deities...
I just rooted my Evo and have been trying out several roms ... Cyanogenmod, Fresh Evo, Baked Snack, OMJ ... But none have exactly what I'm looking for. The following are important to me, but seemingly difficult to get all in one package:
4G
Swype
Wireless Tether
Wiimotable Bluetooth Stack
Remove almost every Sprint Apps (this seems easy on most roms)
Better battery life and performance would be nice too...
Any ideas?
I know that cyanogenmod has all of this except 4G (but they are on the cusp!) In the alpha build that has 4G there seem to be a lot of usability issues (like camera issues and you have to turn off your phone to turn 4G back on). I also haven't been able to successfully install Swype... Maybe the best solution is to wait for Cyanogenmod to work out the kinks with 4G?
I know this issue have been raised before but I wanted to check if there is a fix.
To reiterate: when Triumph locks GPS signal the cell signal starts to cycle between 3G and 1x even in strong 3G areas. If I try to run any app that actively uses both signals (for example, JogTracker and Slacker) the phone gets stuck in 1x mode for extended periods and Slacker streaming breaks up constantly. I believe, the last rumor was that it has something to do with how Motorola manages power distribution when on battery as both chipsets are vying for power.
So, could you guys point me to a fix if it exists? I am currently on a stock ROM (rooted) but would not mind loading custom ROMs if that's what it takes.
Cheers.
I noticed that the cm7 rom doesnt do it as bad as the stock rom.. but the last cm7 rom i used was the 9/25 one.. i havent tried the newest cm7.. but even a stock rom with a sprint prl doesnt help..
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Cm7 development for triumph has come so far so fast I can't believe it! The first one I tried was the first one available I think and it was barely functional! It had no accelerometer, no GPS, intermittant 3g, no forward cam, malfunctioning normal cam and the list goes on. I immediately switched back to froyo with Princely Roms and I tried all those which are VERY good froyo mods. But I was determined to find a good gingerbread rom even though I ruined my 600$ Captivate removing Darkys extreme as it had major issues! The last two weeks I have seen cm7 fix one issue after another and I upgraded to the new beta 1. 2 days ago and was super impressed, but lo and behold I go back to Motorola Triumph hacks and find 3 new beta releases at once! Plus a new miui! I downloaded beta 4 and miui 10 and am just really ecstatic with the performance and stability. I have a really hard time imagining myself flashing a silly themed 2.2 rom with what's out there, oh and the GPS works and is finally quick locking! I just miss my captivates 13 gb internal storage so I do a lot more "apps to SD" but I have never been happier with a device. Cyanogen mod is still king. P.S. Forgot to give credit to Isaac and tickerguy for the amazing work!
So, do I get from your post that CM7 does not have this issue anymore?
Correct! A? Smooth as silk!
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Bought this phone soon after release, the phone and data plan seemed like a worthwhile effort to swap the carriers. Previously I owned HD2 (android-stock sense) on T-mobile. While the phone wasn't the perfect one, I'd still prefer HD2 over Triumph if it wasn't for carrier lock. The first problem was the touch screen, it's unresponsiveness to be exact. I was busy during the time so the 30 days flew in a moment and when I found the time to deal with phone, it was too late to return it. To my relief, the development started to pick up and I was hoping for improved ROM i could flash. Around this time I started to notice other problems; GPS, slow unlock and terrible sound capabilities to name few. While the Roms were a great achievement and I give big thanks to all the devs who have the time and patience for development, most of the problems didn't go away. In addition major bug with video driver was found. This phone isn't the worst out of bunch, and it's not unusable at all, just looking at other phones, considering how much I paid initially leaves wishing for a better device without such apparent bugs.
P.S. Since I'm stuck with this device which Rom would be better, Latest CM gingerbread or modded stock firmware?
CM7 Reloaded for sure. Check it out here
http://androidforums.com/triumph-all-things-root/470282-rom-cm7-tg-reloaded-latest-01-14-a.html
Choosing which rom is best depends on what you use and like... If you use hdmi out regularly then I would suggest a stock based rom, if you use wifi and bluetooth at the same time a lot, then a stock based or cm7-tg-reloaded, if you like easy custimizability with lots of options then I would suggest Miui... What I would do is just flash different roms and maybe use them for a day or so each and see what you like best... Also you can find more help and faster on android forums for the MT. I think a lot more people are more active over there than on XDA...
Hi folks,
I've spent most of the month since I got my G2x messing around with different combinations of roms and kernels for the best experience and I thought I'd try to share some of that with you, as well as some unanswered questions.
First off, I am no stranger to android and even custom roms in general. I flashed custom roms for my windows mobile phones (two of them), before I went to android with the G1. I used the Tmobile HTC HD2 for a while after that, flashed to Gingerbread and eventually ICS roms with full HW acceleration thanks to the hard work of developers.
I got my G2x off Craigslist for use on Wind Mobile. Immediately looked up guides for nvflash and cwm, upgrading to the latest baseband (march) and trying a variety of different roms. At one point, I must've tried every rom out there in the forum, but decided to stick with owain's domination ICS because of the constantly updated codebase. The latest ones (build 78 and 79 have been having some lag issues suspectedly due to the linaro improvements), but that shows how cutting edge it is.
With all of them except my current, latest setup (which I will explain), I had a number of glitches, namely:
1. Flickering of the screen brightness when turning screen on and flickering of the screen-on for a millisecond after turning it off (with and without CRT-off animation enabled)
2. I had a little glitch with the LED lights where when it timed out, instead of turning off, it brightened brighter for a bit before turning off completely.
I understand that ICS is highly experimental, and it is a testament to how good those developers are to even get it running with hacked HWA and no official nvidia support (hopefully, yet).
I HAVE managed to solve those both problems in a very peculiar way. I applaud EaglesBlood for the slick look of their website, designs, and AROMA installer, not to mention their very slick AOSP rom. Latest news is that they're even starting to merge JB source.
Right now I am running EaglesBlood; not the AOSP, but their decommissioned CM9-based ICS build 3. Their last released version with the latest version of the trinity kernel. It's missing many of the latest CM commits, CRT-off animation (without modifying framework-res.apk) and a few features I admit, but it's blazing fast and most importantly, none of the two glitches I listed above are happening.
I am curious if there is any opportunities for information exchange here. I tried trinity kernel on build 77 and 79 of owain's domination build, and I experienced the flicker bugs, but not the LED lights. Clearly, something in the build changes could be the reason. If that could be identified, and EB's CM ICS build could be updated to the latest codebase, we could all have ourselves a more stable, and updated build with no glitches.
I am excited for the next builds of both the EB AOSP and domination builds to see what they could bring in the meantime.
Just my two cents, keep up the great work folks!
The other end of the spectrum of experience
I have very little experience "managing" an Android phone. I'm no technophobe, as I have 25+ years experience developing hardware and C firmware for embedded Real Time systems (none using Android nor embedded Linux). But I have a wife, kids, grandkids, and music performance is my #1 hobby, so I can't make time to "play" with my phone. I've had two G2x for my wife and I, and the only thing I did was root and freeze bloatware. I stuck with Froyo because I needed Wifi calling, a2db and BT calling, and tethering. We also got the dreaded Screen Of Death (g2x locks up, gets hot, and drains your battery, requiring a battery pull), and random reboots. I recently moved our phones to LG V21y (rooted with bloatware freeze), and my wife now gives me the evil eye. We lost the wonderful camera LG put into Froyo, we still get SOD and reboots, plus now we get frequent lag. Example: now when I'm playing music over a2dp, if I get a text or anything, the music has a momentary pause. wtf.
So, since you (Timekeeper) are trying out many ROMs, I'm curious as to which one you stay with. If anyone else wants to suggest ROMs, I'm all ears. I've also searched for a ROM of the original G2x Froyo, but the only links I come up with are dead. I want/need the above features (Froyo LG camera, WiFi calling, a2dp + BT calling, and tethering or Hotspot, and (gasp) stability) - my wife would sacrifice WiFi calling and a2dp for stability. But since she is a technophobe and I am the IT Dept, I'd prefer to have us on the same ROM.
Thanks in advance to any and all that give input.
-Bob
I suggest cyanogenmod 7.2 stable, though if you're on the latest baseband you won't have blue tooth calling. If you downgrade to July 2011 you'll have all working features. If you want you can also use faux 050 kernel if it works better than the cyanogenmod kernel.
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I have very little experience "managing" an Android phone. I'm no technophobe, as I have 25+ years experience developing hardware and C firmware for embedded Real Time systems (none using Android nor embedded Linux). But I have a wife, kids, grandkids, and music performance is my #1 hobby, so I can't make time to "play" with my phone. I've had two G2x for my wife and I, and the only thing I did was root and freeze bloatware. I stuck with Froyo because I needed Wifi calling, a2db and BT calling, and tethering. We also got the dreaded Screen Of Death (g2x locks up, gets hot, and drains your battery, requiring a battery pull), and random reboots. I recently moved our phones to LG V21y (rooted with bloatware freeze), and my wife now gives me the evil eye. We lost the wonderful camera LG put into Froyo, we still get SOD and reboots, plus now we get frequent lag. Example: now when I'm playing music over a2dp, if I get a text or anything, the music has a momentary pause. wtf.
So, since you (Timekeeper) are trying out many ROMs, I'm curious as to which one you stay with. If anyone else wants to suggest ROMs, I'm all ears. I've also searched for a ROM of the original G2x Froyo, but the only links I come up with are dead. I want/need the above features (Froyo LG camera, WiFi calling, a2dp + BT calling, and tethering or Hotspot, and (gasp) stability) - my wife would sacrifice WiFi calling and a2dp for stability. But since she is a technophobe and I am the IT Dept, I'd prefer to have us on the same ROM.
Thanks in advance to any and all that give input.
-Bob
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You could give this a shot:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5vsodk99a6k6y8y
found from here: http://forum.frandroid.com/topic/86314-rom-videotron-stock-22-froyo-p999/ (in french). It's of a stock froyo rom from the provider Videotron, if you are wanting to go back to Froyo. All my roms are ICS roms (I vastly prefer it over CM7.2 after trying some), and so might not be too suitable for you. One of the things you mentioned you missed was the original Froyo camera. As always before trying this rom, do a nandroid backup of your current.
You can also try this, it contains stock nandroid restores for stock froyo and gingerbread and the links appear to still be live:
http://www.igottadroid.com/ModMarket/Listings/TGA_Gunnman1048274.html
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I have very little experience "managing" an Android phone. I'm no technophobe, as I have 25+ years experience developing hardware and C firmware for embedded Real Time systems (none using Android nor embedded Linux). But I have a wife, kids, grandkids, and music performance is my #1 hobby, ....
-Bob
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I personally find best EB 2.3.7 Rom to work wonders paired with Faux50. I have my max set to 1408MHz and 389 MHz min with just -25mv undervolted all day and get no gliches no hiccups. Im on 6h 54m on battery and my percentage is at 66% not to shabby considering i watched an episode of Futurama during my lunch break on netflix.
forgot to add the link to the EB 2.3.7: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124522