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Hi, I'm not new to these forums, but i do not do much posting here. I have a phone i'd like to sell/trade, but i can't access the marketplace. any help? this will only be my 4th post. should i just go post until i reach 10? i just didn't want to spam the forums to get my post count up
The XDA-Developers.com Marketplace, also known as MP, is provided free to members with at least 50 posts and one year of XDA membership. From here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=256
So you'll need to post a lot more
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The XDA-Developers.com Marketplace, also known as MP, is provided free to members with at least 50 posts and one year of XDA membership. From here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=256
So you'll need to post a lot more
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That's frustrating. I've only been a member for 8 months, I loitered for months before that reading posts in the Desire S forums
Guess I'll find another way to sell my One X.
Would not matter if you meet the requirement, read the Market rules regarding closure:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=256
And no need to post more to increase you count....again read the closure dates on the rules.
Won't matter really as the marketplace is being shut down at the end of the month
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Ok so been searching around the forums and found there seems to be a few devs/rom devs that use this on the second or third post.....
List of Shame (Flagged Users)
These are the list of users who asked questions without properly reading the OP. It's a waste of space and a waste of time to read it. Read OP twice. Think twice. and Think again before posting. If you don't, you'll end up here and will no longer get the support you're looking from me and of course, it will be a big shame for you.
offender Names + offences Ie : op states Wifi does not work User X brings up wifi does not work.
Not sure where credit is actually due but could help to avoid a lot of drama.....
I LOVE this idea! Not sure if it's any kind of infringement on forum rules or not, but could be a great "checks and balance" for n00obs and others to think twice before posting...
Edit: I think we (you) should post a thread in the General Section, so as for all to see! Also, as mentioned below, create a set of "Rules of Redemption" for listees to have a chance to be removed.
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Well once someone gets their name in the list further posts from them will be ignored even if they are genuine dont you think??
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Oh this is awesome!!! I like the idea, but you should expand this for everyone, not just yourself to not give support to those list of users on this, list.
there should also be a way off the bad boy list too, not sure how at the moment, but there has to be a way to redeem oneself like maybe a three strikes or something to actually get on the list and then there is no getting off, but the first and second time(s) you get a chance to redeem yourself and can still get off this list maybe..
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Well once someone gets their name in the list further posts from them will be ignored even if they are genuine dont you think??
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Think this would be more to make users read and research a little more..... If they end up on the list and ask something down the road if it is relevant we will not shun them atleast me.....
@ Jim yea some type of balance system to keep things in check would be the way to go..... Someone on with 1 post on a list could say get a warning or whatever they end up repeat offenders then take action.....
How about the multiple section tags feature? This will act as keyword for searching. E.g. http://stackoverflow.com like meta tags....fixed tags for each section can only created by reputed members only.
I said so as we have auto suggestion for similar questions is already there.
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Lots of forums have a q&a section. Each rom then has a post where users can help each other and leave the dev threads uncluttered. It can be listed in op and any question asked can simply be replied with the link to said forum. This could be used in conjunction with a list of shame.
I once thought a forum had to have a certain amount of post to get a q&a but the ion has one with hardly any activity.
My two cents. I like the list of shame idea though.
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Well we could throw around some ideas and see what would be a fair way to work something like this.....
Here is my thoughts for this:
2 lists:
1) Infractions list:
Users name and a +1 or a +2 after their name, and the offense(s) i.e. not searching, or posting an issue in a forum that was already in the OP.
2) Permanent "bad boy list", this is 3 or more infractions, and the list of said infractions are not needed.
The fist list should include a link to said infraction(s), and it should last for 15 days for first offense, and 3-60 days for the 2nd offense. These offense should be notified to you hankbizzo through PM or some "more private" facility.
These are just my thoughts on this.
For each first time offender, a link to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857631[GUIDE] How To Be A New Member, Not A N00B (?) and a "written warning" with the expressed intent to add them to the 'black list' if found in contempt again...
Edit: hankbizzo5, and you might PM prbassplayer and see about getting him on board with this. If others can't read the rules (as listed by YOU) and post an offender in the thread and neglect to send said offender to you via PM, then you can have that post linked to their offense, assuming it's their first and in "written warning" with form.
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I will let this run for a few and gather as much info and oppinions as I can..... then will post up a (Bad boys list).....
Suggestions:
Rules, first and foremost- infractions of offenders to include, but not limited to:
Any member found posting in wrong sections and/or posting a new thread unnecessarily or a re-posting of similar thread(s).
Apparent and blatant failure to search before posting
Posting incorrect or bogus information
Flaming/trolling/or other 'misconduct' such as combative or abusive language and/or intolerance of others
Posting Warez or other solicitations for gain/profit/personal advantage
Spamming the boards
Not using or posting in English
Posting/bumping one's own threads repeatedly for quicker responses
Using other's work(s) without permission(s)
Not posting in clear, concise manner(s)
Asking for donations
(Basically, all the "normal" and expected forum rules to adhere to and observe)
Disciplinary Actions:
1st offense = "written warning" with in your (hankbizzo5) OP along with link of infraction and brief description
2nd offense = name of user added to the "List of Shame" with links to infractions and brief description. Name to be held on list for 15 days
3rd offense = name of user added to the "List of Shame" with links to infractions and brief description. Name to be held on list for 30 days
4th offense = name of user added to the "List of Shame" with links to infractions and brief description. Name to be held on list permanently
Rules of Redemption:
1st time offenders = provide 3 helpful or useful posts to members with links to be PM'd to hankbizzo5 for review of redemption and subsequent removal of List of Shame
2nd time offenders = provide 5 helpful or useful posts to members with links to be PM'd to hankbizzo5 for review of redemption and subsequent removal of List of Shame
3rd time offenders = provide 10 helpful or useful posts to members with links to be PM'd to hankbizzo5 for review of redemption and subsequent removal of List of Shame
4th time offenders= you're out of luck
Feel free to tweak/add/omit/etc
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jimbridgman said:
Here is my thoughts for this:
2 lists:
1) Infractions list:
Users name and a +1 or a +2 after their name, and the offense(s) i.e. not searching, or posting an issue in a forum that was already in the OP.
2) Permanent "bad boy list", this is 3 or more infractions, and the list of said infractions are not needed.
The fist list should include a link to said infraction(s), and it should last for 15 days for first offense, and 3-60 days for the 2nd offense. These offense should be notified to you hankbizzo through PM or some "more private" facility.
These are just my thoughts on this.
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And who will be judge and jury? How can we be assured that no bias is used in judgement.
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leifemagnuson said:
Lots of forums have a q&a section. Each rom then has a post where users can help each other and leave the dev threads uncluttered. It can be listed in op and any question asked can simply be replied with the link to said forum. This could be used in conjunction with a list of shame.
I once thought a forum had to have a certain amount of post to get a q&a but the ion has one with hardly any activity.
My two cents. I like the list of shame idea though.
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I agree wholeheartedly with a q&a section.
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Wow. I understand the intent behind all this, and if people have the time/energy to track it all, more power to you. I understand the frustration behind this effort, but I think it does more to quell free exchange of information than promote it. However, here's my two comments...
Flaming/trolling/or other 'misconduct' such as combative or abusive language and/or intolerance of others
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You may need to break this one out more. Flaming and Trolling are usually obvious, but I've seen some posts by all parties devolve into abusive and intolerant responses.
Not posting in clear, concise manner(s)
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Not sure about this one. Not everyone is clear and concise.
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And who will be judge and jury? How can we be assured that no bias is used in judgement.
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The "jury" might be a selection of Senior Members and Developers who could review the infractions. Let's face it, the rules are simple, and those breaking them are easy to spot. No need for "innocent until prove that guilty" with most of these kind of things...
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So I'm clear. Above scenarios jim's or apex's. The end result would be an agreement not to help people on the permanent banned list?
The ones on the infraction list could still participate and or receive help in say the general or if we get one the q&a thread for a specific rom?
Then only members "in good standing" could post bug or bug reports in the devs rom thread in dev section. Leaving the other sections for users to help thus relieving some of the reading and burden involved in maintaining a rom.
General section would still be open for threads other than blatant reposts or complete disregard for established xda forum rules?
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leifemagnuson said:
So I'm clear. Above scenarios jim's or apex's. The end result would be an agreement not to help people on the permanent banned list?
The ones on the infraction list could still participate and or receive help in say the general of if we get one the q&a thread for a specific rom?
Then only members "in good standing" could post bug or bug reports in the devs rom thread in dev section. Leaving the other sections for users to help thus relieving some of the reading and burden involved in maintaining a rom.
General section would still be open for threads other than blatant reposts or complete disregard for established xda forum rules?
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Well, it's all still sort of being fleshed out at the moment. Not even sure if we'll commit to such a thread, but if so those on the 'permanent' list don't necessarily get completely alienated, but there should be NO REASON for anyone to even get there. It's more a "boilerplate" consequence which should see no members find themselves there. As far as not allowing members to post in certain threads as result of their rule breaking, we don't have that type of authority nor should we want it. It's more like a "stockade", if you will, to keep everyone from fugging up; and if they do its right there for everyone to see. Nobody likes to be humiliated, and I doubt there will be much more than written reprimand actions being given anyhow. I don't know, hankbizzo5 says he's seen this done elsewhere, and chances are its 'quelled' no free exchange of information. Those that ended up on the lists elsewhere obviously said or did something stupid. I wouldn't consider that type of information exchange valued or important. Who knows, still in the bouncing around ideas and thoughts stages...
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leifemagnuson said:
So I'm clear. Above scenarios jim's or apex's. The end result would be an agreement not to help people on the permanent banned list?
The ones on the infraction list could still participate and or receive help in say the general of if we get one the q&a thread for a specific rom?
Then only members "in good standing" could post bug or bug reports in the devs rom thread in dev section. Leaving the other sections for users to help thus relieving some of the reading and burden involved in maintaining a rom.
General section would still be open for threads other than blatant reposts or complete disregard for established xda forum rules?
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Pretty much anyone can still do what they like, and it will still be up to anyone or everyone to do what they want. If you would like to follow the method on putting those on the so called bad boy list on your ignore list, is again up to you to do. These users can still post and do anything they want on xda, it is up to individual users to decide how they really want to take part or not in this. I am thinking for me that anyone who ends up on the permanent list would end up on my ignore list and anyone on the other lists would just be more like a slap on the hand would still get full support unless the really pushed it and ended up on the permanent list, which then again it is up to you to ignore or not.
That is just my take on it.
This seems puerile.
Of course this is all based whether we as users agree to said scenarios. My first paragraph could have been clearer I guess. Over all I like the idea. I think I prefer apex's 4th offence along with the redemption policy.
My thoughts on keeping this from being stickied. I, like I bet most of you don't always check the stickies when on tapatalk. I much prefer the bump system for this type of thing with links in op's and signatures.
Edit: Has anyone seen or read "A boy and his dog"? Who is the committee?
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Not sure what the signifance is of imposing a 10 post limitation in the dev forum. I could have easily answered someone's questions but I'm unable to do so because I do not have 10 posts. Kind of odd... I wouldn't want to spam 10 threads/posts within a few minutes just so I can post in the dev forum
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Not sure what the signifance is of imposing a 10 post limitation in the dev forum. I could have easily answered someone's questions but I'm unable to do so because I do not have 10 posts. Kind of odd... I wouldn't want to spam 10 threads/posts within a few minutes just so I can post in the dev forum
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For a sane person like you. There are 99 clue less newbie's. So you get the idea why it's a rule.
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cricketAC said:
For a sane person like you. There are 99 clue less newbie's. So you get the idea why it's a rule.
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Lmao
We are all insane waiting for cm10 to drop.
G2x-temasek CM7 build135.3 w/faux 054 kernel
Instead of spamming you can still answer questions in other places to get your post count up fast.
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Yeah I didn't really get the point of the 10 post requirement, although I don't know enough about tech to actually post anything that wouldn't annoy the devs. And a day ago someone with ~170 posts was a complete amateur at forum etiquette, he asked the same question 3 or 4 times over two days in 2 different sections, neither being the proper place to ask questions.
If your under ten count and think you can help, you could PM that user.
That's what I did when I started.
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I think this rule is rather silly. Maybe I haven't seen the inordinate amounts of spam that could result because I've got a rather limited focus on these forums, but I'd think that most people willing to post in the dev section are probably going to provide something to it.
I read the forums here for over a year before I ever signed up for an account. I had been flashing the whole time, so I had stuff to contribute. Anyway, do like I did and hit up the Q&A sections and see if there's anyone you can help. If not, join in on a conversation where people are just offering their opinion. 10 posts will fly by.
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I read the forums here for over a year before I ever signed up for an account. I had been flashing the whole time, so I had stuff to contribute. Anyway, do like I did and hit up the Q&A sections and see if there's anyone you can help. If not, join in on a conversation where people are just offering their opinion. 10 posts will fly by.
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Same here.
I couldn't register because at the time i was using my mobile hotspot. XDA security policy don't let you sign up on cellular networks!
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I guess I can understand why they do it but it still sucks for people that would benefit from being able to post in the developer section right away.
The 10 post limit was introduced to cut down on the number of useless threads & questions created in that section. As a result there is around 90% less created threads that get moved or deleted from these sections. Unfortunately the 10% of new users that wish to post there with legitimate reasons have to wait.
Its the way it is going to remain I'm afraid.
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How frustrated I am!! How cruel and inhumane the rule is!!
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Awaiting a lock! :fingers-crossed:
Just go read the rules fella
There were and will be hundreds of such threads, but no gain. You have to go by the rules.
Prevents spamming dev section you know
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Edit: already beat me to it thx lifehacker.
Karl these are the rules its the way it is.
Go to your device forum and start learning. If your super dev genius then earn your ten post by helping others.
Its not such a big deal the ten post thing.
Why not introducevyouself in the general forum ?
A word about OT spamming and using OT to get your 10 post up is frowned upon by everyone and is against the rules.
You may even get your post count knocked back down.
PLENTY of ways to get your 10 post count and doing it in a positive constructive way will earn you xda "street cred" .
Crying about the ten post rule...not so much.
Welcome and be sure to read rules.
Check stickies too because a lot of the device forums have similar but sometimes a tad different rules.
Enjoy your xda journey.
I expect tjis thread to be closed soon
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Inhumane huh? You should be lucky that MTM or I haven't deleted your posts yet. Just like you were previously told, if you don't like our rules I would be happy to have your account deleted.
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I am running CleanRom. This issue also happened when I was running Venom XL. Whenever I turn the screen off or the timer turns it off I lose both data and cell service. If it has only been a few minutes it turns back on. If it is a longer time I have to restart phone.
Any suggestions?
A suggestion? One word: search. This is probably the millionth time this has been discussed, in the ROM threads, and in the q&a section you're posting in. So clearly you haven't bothered to search/read.
Forum Rules
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting or creating a new thread. Whether you have a question or just something new to share, it's very likely that someone has already asked that question or shared that news
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Use the search feature in any Sense 5 ROM thread and you'll find the answer you're looking for. And search before posting in future.
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I have searched... Did you really take the time to be a jerk and not help someone out? Amazing... I will look elsewhere.
You didn't search properly then, this is the single most discussed issue in our forum by far. Do I really need to search for you to show even a fraction of the posts that discuss the solution? Like I said, it's been discussed extensively in every Sense 5 ROM thread. Plus there are numerous threads dedicated to this subject in this q&a section.
PS. Calling someone a jerk would be classed as abusive and/or flaming, both things that are also against the rules. I'm not a jerk for pointing out that you didn't search well enough to find the most talked about topic in our forum.
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@Jklsr55 there's a guy who asked almost the same question in this section a couple posts down. If you searched, you wouldn't have been called out man.
At the same time, I'll tell you the solution to fixing it, which is in every single sense 5 rom thread: Update to 2.15 firmware.
Don't make a new thread or ask how to. I'm telling you what to do to fix it, so that you can search and find the steps yourself
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Well, again, I did search. But I searched from the main page. In was not aware you could search different sub categories. Kick me off, do what you like. But do not tell me what or what not to do.
Nobody wants to kick you off, all we want is for users to adhere to the rules so the forum is a better place for everybody. We certainly can tell you what to do though, when telling you what to do is to abide by the rules that you agreed to when signing up for this site. Hopefully a lesson has been learned today. I apologise for the level of frustration in my post earlier, but I'll certainly be one of the first people to offer you assistance if you have problems in future. Please just read XDA rules and abide by them.
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The OP needs to settle down with the immature attitude. I have asked a lot of silly questions myself and have gotten plenty of help in this forum.
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But do not tell me what or what not to do.
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timmaaa isn't "telling you" to do anything, aside from following the forum rules. Trust me, there isn't a question that you can come up with, that hasn't already been asked and answered here multiple times. Its not the intent to be rude, but the forum would quickly be flooded with the same questions being asked over and over, rendering the forum close to useless.
You also could have tried reading the Frequently Asked Questions thread (sticky at the top of this section), that timmaaa takes the time to maintain (see Question 26):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136172