[Q] 3.5mm connector - Desire HD Accessories

I was hoping someone could clear this up for me.
I'm having trouble using other than stock earphones. Others don't work, or the music player glitches...
I've noticed the HTC ones have 4 sections while others i've checked have 3.
Googled it and found that 4 sections means it's a TRRS connector and 3 means TRS. So does this mean I can't use anything other than TRRS?? Do I need to buy an adapter?
Thanks!

I have some cheap headphones and they work well.
Also, you dont need the TRRS connector.
Look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS_connector

all mine worked
creative, sony, standard line-in cable...
you could try hardresetting it..
otherwise it could be a hardware fault.
DN41

Thanks for replys all!
Still i'm confused, as the stock player fasts forward like 3x speed sometimes when I plug them in. Could this be a hardware fault on jack or just a software issue?

just try a different player and you´ll know

If your phone skips/forwards/stops/plays at random when you have your own headphones plugged in, try installing headset blocker from market.
Worked like a charm, now I don't have those problems anymore

Defectus said:
If your phone skips/forwards/stops/plays at random when you have your own headphones plugged in, try installing headset blocker from market.
Worked like a charm, now I don't have those problems anymore
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Thanks!!
Thats exactly what I thought might cause this issue.

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Radio FM without the headphone

Is it possible? sometimes i am walking through the street without the headphone, wanting to hear FM, and i cant...
does anybody know a way?
Wavelengths from radiostations are like a foot or more in length.. so you need an antenna thats atleast a foot or so to pick up those radio waves.
The phone uses the earphones as a antenna, so I guess you have to have it to pickup those waves.
mmm... well just have your headphones, conect them, and place them on your shoulder hanging to your back (it can be inside your clothes so no body see it) and put the phone on speaker (or what ever that its called on the radio program)
anyways the phone doesnt sounds too high, are you going to be able to hear it??
egk-69 said:
anyways the phone doesnt sounds too high, are you going to be able to hear it??
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Yea the FM volume is too low to listen outdoors. Anyone has figured out a fix? I don't have that problem with Sling player.
I don't know why, but lately I put the usb>3.5mm converter in my phone and started up the radio, and it worked!
The signal wasn't as strong as with the headset plugged in, but it was decent to say the least. Only stations that already have bad reception don't work (naturally).
So yes, it is possible.
egk-69 said:
anyways the phone doesnt sounds too high, are you going to be able to hear it??
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i always listen to stuff (audio and video) using a bt headset after converting all sound to it. i use a software called "bt audio" for that purpose. so, if anybody can find a way to receive fm reception without the headset, that'll be great.
AthenaLod said:
iif anybody can find a way to receive fm reception without the headset, that'll be great.
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Why don't you read the post above yours?
Scalage said:
I don't know why, but lately I put the usb>3.5mm converter in my phone and started up the radio, and it worked!
The signal wasn't as strong as with the headset plugged in, but it was decent to say the least. Only stations that already have bad reception don't work (naturally).
So yes, it is possible.
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Strange, it doesn't work with my Fuze. I have to still plug in a 3.5mm headphone to get it to work.
Anything change in the registry when you put that in?
It doesn't matter if anything changes in the registry or not. Do this: find an FM radio like one of those cheesy little things with the collapsable antenna. Take off the antenna and then see how many stations you can get. If you don't want to put forth the effort, the answer is "None". There's no difference. No antenna means no stations, period. It also seems that you can't just jam any old USB connector in there, also.
Well, my usb converter is very small and cheap, so I'm sure there's no antenna in there. But still my radio works fine with the converter inserted
It makes no sense, but it works.
sdbe said:
Strange, it doesn't work with my Fuze. I have to still plug in a 3.5mm headphone to get it to work.
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I just stick my stylus in my 3.5mm jack and it thinks it has headphones, but the some stations are still weak
What about the TV Out cable?
I have a HTC original TV out cable as long as the headset cable. Does anyone know how to trick the device to see it as an antena for the FM radio? Thank you.
Confirmed - My fuze running Romeos latest ROM works with a simple 3 inch long mini headphone jack (2.5mm) adapter without any headphones. Works great on loudspeaker.
Scalage said:
Well, my usb converter is very small and cheap, so I'm sure there's no antenna in there. But still my radio works fine with the converter inserted
It makes no sense, but it works.
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Same here, I plug in my chinese 3.5mm adapter and the radio works so obviously it doesn't need anything for an antenna. Someone must patch that software to get the FM to work without plugging in anything.
Daved+ said:
Same here, I plug in my chinese 3.5mm adapter and the radio works so obviously it doesn't need anything for an antenna. Someone must patch that software to get the FM to work without plugging in anything.
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Actually that 3.5mm adapter has copper wire in it. Even though it's a short length, the phone still uses it as an antenna. Plug in a pair of headphones and you will see an increase of signal.
you can change the headset state in the registry and i ran the program with it like that and saw that i got signal but no sound was coming out.
The only way i can think of not using ANY headset would be a hardware hack to add some length of antenna to the USB port.
It's really down to physics.. here's a link for TV's: http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/siting.html
You may be able to get some signal from a few cm of antenna, chances are you're not getting a very good one.
The Jack of Clubs said:
you can change the headset state in the registry and i ran the program with it like that and saw that i got signal but no sound was coming out.
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Could you tell me please where in the registry is the key for the headset state ?!
sure thing. its at hklm\system\state\hardware\headset. change to 1 to make it think you have headphones plugged in.

Stereo Headset(And other similar accesories) do not work with Cupcake/1.5?

I've been using Haykuro's builds, and now the latest JF1.5 build (So snappy. ), but in none of these builds does the Stereo Headset that came with the phone work, if you plug them in the sound keeps playing from the phone itself. Is there something special I'm supposed to do now that you didn't have to before? Or is it just something they forgot to keep on while they were busy making Bluetooth stereo work?
Mine work with JF1.5 ADP, both the stock single wired headset, and my headphones plugged into the HTC 3.5mm adapter. Music plays, can make calls, the button controls the playback... not a single problem. Have you tried adjusting the volume with them plugged in?
Well that's odd.. Yeah I have, it just changes the volume of the phone. Hmm.
update the radio
TwilitTruth said:
I've been using Haykuro's builds, and now the latest JF1.5 build (So snappy. ), but in none of these builds does the Stereo Headset that came with the phone work, if you plug them in the sound keeps playing from the phone itself. Is there something special I'm supposed to do now that you didn't have to before? Or is it just something they forgot to keep on while they were busy making Bluetooth stereo work?
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you need to update the radio on the phone. download
ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip on
http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecode.com/
This fixed the same issue I was having.
Hmm, okay. I was pretty sure I already did that, but I'll try again and get back with my results tomorrow.
TwilitTruth said:
Hmm, okay. I was pretty sure I already did that, but I'll try again and get back with my results tomorrow.
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I'm having similar issues. My HTC 3-1 adapter stopped working, but my stock adapter does work. I also flashed the radio. Please report back if re-flashing the radio fixes your issues.
Had a chance to test it out sooner than I thought. Sorry, I had ASSUMED that the 3.5mm adapter wouldn't work since my HTC 3-1 adapter didn't, but hadn't actually tried it. :x Anyways it DOES work, as per above though, the 3 in 1 does NOT.
However, I have found a workaround. With the phone unplugged, Plus your 3.5mm jack into the 3.5mm adapter that came with the phone (The one with the button), then plug the 3.5mm adapter into the 3-1's USB slot on the side, and if you're like me you'll be plugging in your car charger too, and attaching it to the back of the 3-1 adapter. Anyways, then just plug the 3-1 adapter into the phone and it WILL work. Plus you get the functionality of the little on-off button. I'm happy now.
Still, seems odd that the 3-1 doesn't work as intended (Being able to plug the 3.5mm jack directly into it.), but for my purposes this case is solved.
Well this is great for use early buyers who were treated so well and received the official adapters that are apparently the only ones that still work with the phone. /sarcasm
Seriously. What the hell.
I'm probably buying some A2DP headphones anyways, but since my original headphones' connections somehow got weakened in the little volume control nub, I'm pissed.
I have no problems with my 3 and1 adapter or stock headphone adapter with the new JF 1.50ADP....
LOL... great minds think alike. I had already discovered this workaround as well and can confirm it does work just as you said for me too. I'm okay with this solution for now, but it would be nice to eliminate some wires from my audio setup in car, rather than adding to the mess.
The new radio update must have re-mapped some function that was required for the standard headphone auxiliary outputs to work. That's the only explanation that I can think of, unless someone using a previous Cupcake build and the new radio can confirm that a 3-to-1 adapter works okay...
So, when I was using Haykuro's build I noticed a little Icon on the Notifications bar that let me know I had the 3.5mm Headphone jack plugged into the mini usb, But now on JF's 1.5, It's not there anymore. I also washed my 3.55 plug, So I don't know if something happened or if its JF's. Does anyone else know what I'm talking about?
i am also having this problem with my htc 3-in-1, i have flashed the radio. i have not tested the workaround yet.
rwbarnes67 said:
I have no problems with my 3 and1 adapter or stock headphone adapter with the new JF 1.50ADP....
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Which 3-in-1 adapter do you have?
Bluetooth Stereo not working here
I can use a regular headset fine.
but when i pair up my bt stereo a2dp headset I get no call sound. Regular sound tops at this point. Then I have to reset my phone to get sound back.
Anyone experiencing this ??
it seemed to be in the official ADP 1.5 so I guess It may be an unfixed Android bug.
same issue here =(
I ALWAYS used to use my G1 as a music player in my car, but now that doesn't work =/ I'm stuck using CDs! =( lol
I have an HTC adapter I actually bought at a Tmobile store so I can't bealieve it doesn't work now with these new builds. Mine only has the male end that goes to the G1 and 1 female where I plug an aux cable into so I can;t do the trick you guys talked about above.
If ANYONE can help out, it would be very appreciated.
The htc 3-in-1 adapter was reported not to work as intended pretty soon after the HTC version of 1.5 was released. It doesn't register on the phone. I suspect all derivatives of the HTC version (like JF's) will behave the same. I also suspect this will be fixed in an upcoming service release.
/Mats
So there's no current fix for this?
shadixt said:
So there's no current fix for this?
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Nothing beyond using some other adapter, as far as I know. Ironically, only the original HTC 3in1 adapter seems to cause this behaviour.
/Mats
shadixt said:
So there's no current fix for this?
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As noted previously, you CAN continue to use the HTC 3-in-1 adapter, but only in combination with a second USB to headphone jack adapter (such as the original one that came packaged with the G1 for the past few months). Not a fix, but the workaround does work fine.
this is almost crazy
So what you are trying to say is.. We wanted Bluetooth, so we got Bluetooth, but we lost Headset feature??? Other than the iPhone, there is not a phone out there that acts like this? Dont get me wrong I love the G1 and I'm not really sure how I got along with out it.. but really guys, Fixing one thing only to break another is not a good business practice. My guess is that the iPhone will work the first time.. but only time will tell... Has anyone heard anything about the Beam files feature?
//j

[Q] Help! No audio via plugged in headset, not BT

Greetings all,
Just picked up a used TG01 and tried a plug-in earbuds type headset and it worked fine at the shop. Plugged it in last night and suddenly sound won't switch from the speaker when I plug in the headset. Currently using stock WM 6.5 install until I get a bit more familiar with TG01. The microUSB port is tight with no connection problems. Thinking I did something accidentally I did a Master Reset, but still no joy. There has to be a setting somewhere...but I'm clueless.
Can anyone help? Thanx in advance for curing this ill!
CrashMurdock said:
Greetings all,
Just picked up a used TG01 and tried a plug-in earbuds type headset and it worked fine at the shop. Plugged it in last night and suddenly sound won't switch from the speaker when I plug in the headset. Currently using stock WM 6.5 install until I get a bit more familiar with TG01. The microUSB port is tight with no connection problems. Thinking I did something accidentally I did a Master Reset, but still no joy. There has to be a setting somewhere...but I'm clueless.
Can anyone help? Thanx in advance for curing this ill!
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Hi
Due to the special USB multifunction, sometimes you can have problems if internal headset impedance is lower than usual. Try another headset and search on forum , there are a lot of information (search audio out, speaker problem or so on....)
IF you can't find it, I'll try to locate this information for you.
Best regards
Pere said:
Hi
Due to the special USB multifunction, sometimes you can have problems if internal headset impedance is lower than usual. Try another headset and search on forum , there are a lot of information (search audio out, speaker problem or so on....)
IF you can't find it, I'll try to locate this information for you.
Best regards
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Hi Pere,
I had searched and read in the forums of others having problems with connecting audio out to stereo because of impedance differences, and another's headset mic wouldn't work, e.g., so was happy when this 'smart-talk' headset worked fine when I tried it in the shop on my TG01. Later when I plugged it in at home, TG01 simply wouldn't switch to headset mode. I went back to the shop and tried two other sets, but they're the same model and neither worked. Wonder why it worked the first time. Do you know of a solution...cab file with a manual software switch, or something? I ordered a stereo bluetooth headset off eBay, but it won't arrive for another 2-3 weeks.
Thanks for the quick response!
Cheers...
It is most unlikely to be the TG01 which has a fault as such - but as Pere suggests to do with the processor controlled function switching depending on what is connected. The uUSB Port responds differently depending on the resistance presented across various of the 5 pins.
In essence something like a 4-8 ohm load is insuffiicent; typically a 32 ohm impedance set of earphones will work fine or if you want a universal adapter to allow plugging anying in the make up a lead with a 10k Ohm resistor between Pin 2 and ground and Pin 3 and ground. The effective resisance 'seen' by the device remains high enough to cause the software to switch the port function.
Incidentally, a short across Pin 2 and Pin 3 causes the device to go into 'charge' mode.
Just in case the Tg has got 'stuck' I'd recommend setting it to charge - ensure amber light come on; then disconnect charger, soft reset and try the headphones again. Also try cleaning the port and the connector with a drop of alcohol or electronic cleaning solvent and push in and out a few times to ensure there is no oxidation on contacts causing a bad connection.
There are no accessible software controls - is at the hardware / firmware layer level; so could also be worth trying flashing a different ROM which is known to work perfectly.
If I think of anything else will add.
Good luck and best regards,
Kevin
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...Just in case the Tg has got 'stuck' I'd recommend setting it to charge - ensure amber light come on; then disconnect charger, soft reset and try the headphones again. Also try cleaning the port and the connector with a drop of alcohol or electronic cleaning solvent and push in and out a few times to ensure there is no oxidation on contacts causing a bad connection.
There are no accessible software controls - is at the hardware / firmware layer level; so could also be worth trying flashing a different ROM which is known to work perfectly...
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Hi Kevin,
I appreciate your advice and just tried the soft reset with no joy. I plugged the charger in and once the amber light came on I unplugged the charger from the usb port then immediately pressed the white reset button on the back. After it rebooted...no joy. Next I tried the same thing but instead unplugged the charger from the wall socket while still plugged into the phone, again, no joy. I also used a magnifying glass and flashlight to inspect the USB port and it looks very clean with no corrosion. Hopefully I can find another phone shop tomorrow with a different brand of headphones to try. This is certainly frustrating. I just found this quote and it couldn't convey my feelings any better:
"Looks like the micro usb is designed to break the connector more than anything else. No visible advantage over the mini usb, which clearly looks more durable, both on the connector cable and in the device side connector which looks like it must just be a fragile ultra thin pcb board edge connector that you can snap easier than a toothpick." Xepol at ...intomobile.com forums
Kevin, thanks for your help!
Cheers...
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...so could also be worth trying flashing a different ROM which is known to work perfectly
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Greetings Kevin,
I just installed your latest ROM and still no sound to the headset. I'm heading out to the phone shops in the next big town to hopefully find one that will work. Thanks again for your advice.
Cheers...
Finally an Update
Bought a different brand headset and it's been working fine for a couple of months now. Don't know why the previous brand headset worked initially then stopped working. Maybe it was the wrong impedance, like Kevin mentioned, that caused the multi-function USBport to become confused. Still looking for a good stereo bluetooth headset/headphones/earbuds, but so far not sure which way to go.
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Bought a different brand headset and it's been working fine for a couple of months now. Don't know why the previous brand headset worked initially then stopped working. Maybe it was the wrong impedance, like Kevin mentioned, that caused the multi-function USBport to become confused. Still looking for a good stereo bluetooth headset/headphones/earbuds, but so far not sure which way to go.
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I have been using the Sony Ericsson MW600 BT headset for some while now in conjunction with a pair of Westone W3 canalphones and very pleased with performance. Has A2DP and effective control of Core Player.
It's a while since that model was released but appears to still be current; havn't looked around other manufacturers recently, but may well be similar alternatives now to consider.
Regards,
Kevin
kevinpwhite said:
I have been using the Sony Ericsson MW600 BT headset for some while now in conjunction with a pair of Westone W3 canalphones and very pleased with performance. Has A2DP and effective control of Core Player.
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Thanks for the tip, Kevin, I'll check 'em out. I have ordered two sets of BT headphones, but amazingly both deals didn't fly. I ordered a pair of Plantronics Backbeat 903+ canal type earbuds that clip over each ear from e-Cost.com. They refused to ship to my billing address in the US because I ordered online from within Thailand and their system flagged my foreign IP address. I subsequently ordered a Chinese brand stereo BT headset from an eBay seller, but he actually didn't have the "more than 10 available" in stock and had to issue a refund. I've tried Motorola's S9 and their newer S305 behind the head/neck models and didn't care for either of them. The S9 has all the weight at the very back so isn't good for speedwalking and bicycling, which I like to do. The S305 model sounds better but doesn't have enough clamping force to hold the earphones properly against the ears so unless you manually hold them against your ears sound quality suffers. There just doesn't seem to be a great selection of stereo BT headphones. I'm trying to preserve the TG01's mUSB port or would just use my wired set as they sound pretty good.
Thanks again for the tip!

Speaker dock not working, any suggestions?

Hello everyone. I bought a Digital Innovations universal android speaker dock. It was highly recommended by a friend and has great reviews online. When I got it the connection to my One X was spotty at best. When I would plug in the 3.5mm jack into my phone, sometimes my phone would recognize that a headphone cable was plugged in and other times it would not. I thought maybe it was the dock itself so I had it replaced. I got the new one today it does the same thing, except that I can not get the phone to recognize that the jack is plugged in at all.
I decided that I would try other devices. I plugged in an MP3 player, and it worked fine. I tried a second MP3 player and that worked too. Finally I tried an iPhone and that too worked. I cant figure out why my One X will not recognize that a headphone cable has been plugged in. If I use standard headphones the phone recognizes them immediately. Does anyone have any idea why this might be happening and what I can do about it?
This is the dock I got: http://www.digitalinnovations.com/universal-speaker-dock-for-android.html
Hi there, I'm posting from Sonr, we designed the dock you are using. This is the first time I've seen that problem. The closest I've seen was with a Sony Ericson phone that had a non standard wiring pattern on the plug, but based on what you are saying, standard headphones work. Now, just to clarify, when you say headphones, you mean like mp3 player headphones, not a phone headset, the distinction being that the headset has a built in mic. Also, when you say "standard headphones" do you mean ones that came with the phone or ones that came from another vendor (and not specifically designed for the one X).
As you can probably tell, I'm trying to isolate if the headphone jack configuration is non standard physically (like the Sony Ericson phone) or if the issue is something else.
Thanks for the response. I've now used three different types of headphones/headsets. Two were standard headphones and one was a phone headset. All three worked fine on my HTC One X.
I did find work around to get the dock to worl, but it will not work with the Sonr app. The solution was to go and buy a 3.5mm stereo plug extension. I connect the dock to that and the other end to my phone. I can now play audio from my phone through the dock, but the Sonr app will not find my phone. It's a start and I'm getting closer but I would love to be able to use the remote and built in buttons.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
Ugh. I'm really sorry we didn't catch this in testing. We have plenty of other HTC phones, but not this one. It sounds like we need to acquire one. Based on what you're saying, this phone has another non standard headphone configuration, and we need an adapter for it. If you are game for helping us debug this, contact me directly at [email protected] com and I'll get you some adapters to test. Again, I apologize for the trouble.
I would gladly help out, especially if it means the possibility of me using my dock to its full capabilities. I just sent you an email and look forward to hearing back from you.

Why some headphones don't work with some phones?

Hello.
I'm trying to figure out and possible find a solution for why some headphones don't work with some phones?
For example a very well known brand Scullcandy. Their line of Skullcandy FIX Bud headphones work fine with Galaxy S2, but don't work with Galaxy S3, they also don't work with LG Nitro HD.
On GS3 they work for media playback, but when trying dial out or answer a call, the phone totally disconnects the headphones, the icon that shows when headphones are plugged in is no longer showed and at that point one has to physically re-plug the headphones in order to use them for media playback.
It does sound like phone's software issue, I sure hope so and there is a way fix it...
Another phone I had bad experience was LG Nitro HD. Even though the phone is totally waste of money it don't accept any iphone type headphones, they might work for playback, but mic or buttons don't work.
So what could possibly causing this issues?
I've tried post on phone related sections, but got no answers...
I also tried contact Samsung support regarding this issue, but they simply blew me off with "we don't provide support for 3nd hardware". Now I'm waiting for an answer from Skullcandy support.
Any ideas?
Thank you.
Probably the 3-pin layout of your phone. some are really weird in the way they work
x10man
There might be a couple reasons. The first is the connector. Some headsets use a three pole connector while others use a four pole connector. The other issue will likely be he pin out. The headphone jack might be a standard mechanical interface but not electrically. Both are hard problems but an adapter cable might help you.
All headphones connectors in question are 4 pin type, without using micrometer they look identical. Since all these headphones works fine in mp3 players, where only 3 pin connectors used, means the 3 out of 4 pins are in proper places and connected properly inside the wire.
So, without taking headphones apart it seems physically there is nothing different between them.
In addition, if there would be something physically wrong, it would not explain, why SGS3 sense when Skullcandy headphones connected, it shows headphones icon, but when a phone call initialized it "forgets" about it.
It sure seem to me like software related..

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