Greetings all,
Just picked up a used TG01 and tried a plug-in earbuds type headset and it worked fine at the shop. Plugged it in last night and suddenly sound won't switch from the speaker when I plug in the headset. Currently using stock WM 6.5 install until I get a bit more familiar with TG01. The microUSB port is tight with no connection problems. Thinking I did something accidentally I did a Master Reset, but still no joy. There has to be a setting somewhere...but I'm clueless.
Can anyone help? Thanx in advance for curing this ill!
CrashMurdock said:
Greetings all,
Just picked up a used TG01 and tried a plug-in earbuds type headset and it worked fine at the shop. Plugged it in last night and suddenly sound won't switch from the speaker when I plug in the headset. Currently using stock WM 6.5 install until I get a bit more familiar with TG01. The microUSB port is tight with no connection problems. Thinking I did something accidentally I did a Master Reset, but still no joy. There has to be a setting somewhere...but I'm clueless.
Can anyone help? Thanx in advance for curing this ill!
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Hi
Due to the special USB multifunction, sometimes you can have problems if internal headset impedance is lower than usual. Try another headset and search on forum , there are a lot of information (search audio out, speaker problem or so on....)
IF you can't find it, I'll try to locate this information for you.
Best regards
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Hi
Due to the special USB multifunction, sometimes you can have problems if internal headset impedance is lower than usual. Try another headset and search on forum , there are a lot of information (search audio out, speaker problem or so on....)
IF you can't find it, I'll try to locate this information for you.
Best regards
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Hi Pere,
I had searched and read in the forums of others having problems with connecting audio out to stereo because of impedance differences, and another's headset mic wouldn't work, e.g., so was happy when this 'smart-talk' headset worked fine when I tried it in the shop on my TG01. Later when I plugged it in at home, TG01 simply wouldn't switch to headset mode. I went back to the shop and tried two other sets, but they're the same model and neither worked. Wonder why it worked the first time. Do you know of a solution...cab file with a manual software switch, or something? I ordered a stereo bluetooth headset off eBay, but it won't arrive for another 2-3 weeks.
Thanks for the quick response!
Cheers...
It is most unlikely to be the TG01 which has a fault as such - but as Pere suggests to do with the processor controlled function switching depending on what is connected. The uUSB Port responds differently depending on the resistance presented across various of the 5 pins.
In essence something like a 4-8 ohm load is insuffiicent; typically a 32 ohm impedance set of earphones will work fine or if you want a universal adapter to allow plugging anying in the make up a lead with a 10k Ohm resistor between Pin 2 and ground and Pin 3 and ground. The effective resisance 'seen' by the device remains high enough to cause the software to switch the port function.
Incidentally, a short across Pin 2 and Pin 3 causes the device to go into 'charge' mode.
Just in case the Tg has got 'stuck' I'd recommend setting it to charge - ensure amber light come on; then disconnect charger, soft reset and try the headphones again. Also try cleaning the port and the connector with a drop of alcohol or electronic cleaning solvent and push in and out a few times to ensure there is no oxidation on contacts causing a bad connection.
There are no accessible software controls - is at the hardware / firmware layer level; so could also be worth trying flashing a different ROM which is known to work perfectly.
If I think of anything else will add.
Good luck and best regards,
Kevin
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...Just in case the Tg has got 'stuck' I'd recommend setting it to charge - ensure amber light come on; then disconnect charger, soft reset and try the headphones again. Also try cleaning the port and the connector with a drop of alcohol or electronic cleaning solvent and push in and out a few times to ensure there is no oxidation on contacts causing a bad connection.
There are no accessible software controls - is at the hardware / firmware layer level; so could also be worth trying flashing a different ROM which is known to work perfectly...
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Hi Kevin,
I appreciate your advice and just tried the soft reset with no joy. I plugged the charger in and once the amber light came on I unplugged the charger from the usb port then immediately pressed the white reset button on the back. After it rebooted...no joy. Next I tried the same thing but instead unplugged the charger from the wall socket while still plugged into the phone, again, no joy. I also used a magnifying glass and flashlight to inspect the USB port and it looks very clean with no corrosion. Hopefully I can find another phone shop tomorrow with a different brand of headphones to try. This is certainly frustrating. I just found this quote and it couldn't convey my feelings any better:
"Looks like the micro usb is designed to break the connector more than anything else. No visible advantage over the mini usb, which clearly looks more durable, both on the connector cable and in the device side connector which looks like it must just be a fragile ultra thin pcb board edge connector that you can snap easier than a toothpick." Xepol at ...intomobile.com forums
Kevin, thanks for your help!
Cheers...
kevinpwhite said:
...so could also be worth trying flashing a different ROM which is known to work perfectly
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Greetings Kevin,
I just installed your latest ROM and still no sound to the headset. I'm heading out to the phone shops in the next big town to hopefully find one that will work. Thanks again for your advice.
Cheers...
Finally an Update
Bought a different brand headset and it's been working fine for a couple of months now. Don't know why the previous brand headset worked initially then stopped working. Maybe it was the wrong impedance, like Kevin mentioned, that caused the multi-function USBport to become confused. Still looking for a good stereo bluetooth headset/headphones/earbuds, but so far not sure which way to go.
CrashMurdock said:
Bought a different brand headset and it's been working fine for a couple of months now. Don't know why the previous brand headset worked initially then stopped working. Maybe it was the wrong impedance, like Kevin mentioned, that caused the multi-function USBport to become confused. Still looking for a good stereo bluetooth headset/headphones/earbuds, but so far not sure which way to go.
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I have been using the Sony Ericsson MW600 BT headset for some while now in conjunction with a pair of Westone W3 canalphones and very pleased with performance. Has A2DP and effective control of Core Player.
It's a while since that model was released but appears to still be current; havn't looked around other manufacturers recently, but may well be similar alternatives now to consider.
Regards,
Kevin
kevinpwhite said:
I have been using the Sony Ericsson MW600 BT headset for some while now in conjunction with a pair of Westone W3 canalphones and very pleased with performance. Has A2DP and effective control of Core Player.
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Thanks for the tip, Kevin, I'll check 'em out. I have ordered two sets of BT headphones, but amazingly both deals didn't fly. I ordered a pair of Plantronics Backbeat 903+ canal type earbuds that clip over each ear from e-Cost.com. They refused to ship to my billing address in the US because I ordered online from within Thailand and their system flagged my foreign IP address. I subsequently ordered a Chinese brand stereo BT headset from an eBay seller, but he actually didn't have the "more than 10 available" in stock and had to issue a refund. I've tried Motorola's S9 and their newer S305 behind the head/neck models and didn't care for either of them. The S9 has all the weight at the very back so isn't good for speedwalking and bicycling, which I like to do. The S305 model sounds better but doesn't have enough clamping force to hold the earphones properly against the ears so unless you manually hold them against your ears sound quality suffers. There just doesn't seem to be a great selection of stereo BT headphones. I'm trying to preserve the TG01's mUSB port or would just use my wired set as they sound pretty good.
Thanks again for the tip!
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Hi guys! Hope you can give me a hand on this...
I´ve been got my palm treo 750 since last March and everything goes really good with it, in fact i love it, but 2 days ago i plugged the headphones in it and only could listen through the speaker of the treo. I tried it sometimes more but nothing happened, the only way it works is to plug the headphones and do a soft-reset, when it starts i can listen to music or whatever through the headphones, and when i disconnect them and turn it off for a while, it happens again, so i have to do another soft-reset with the headphones plugged to listen though the headphones again.
1) I suppose it´s a hardware malfunctioning stuff, but maybe it´s not copmletely broken and could work fine with a soft appl, is that possible?
2) If not, does any one have specific photos and info about how to do the surgery?
3) In case i do the surgery, is it possible to change the socket from 2.5 to 3.5 mm? I mean, it´s only a hardware situation or do I have to install or change something in the treo´s software.
Anything would be great except take it to the technical service bc it could take a very long time to get it back, and i use to need it daily.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE
You may want to take a look at this site...
http://treotricks.blogspot.com/2006/01/treo-650-audio-jack-fix-part-1.html
Also, I had my headset jack stick and I used WD-40 lubricant applied to the inside of the jack using the headset plug repeatedly dipped in the WD-40 and inserted in the jack.
I've had no problem since the WD-40 released the stuck jack and my audio was restored.
Good luck, either way!
tylerdog said:
You may want to take a look at this site...
http://treotricks.blogspot.com/2006/01/treo-650-audio-jack-fix-part-1.html
Also, I had my headset jack stick and I used WD-40 lubricant applied to the inside of the jack using the headset plug repeatedly dipped in the WD-40 and inserted in the jack.
I've had no problem since the WD-40 released the stuck jack and my audio was restored.
Good luck, either way!
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hello, thanks for replying, but it´s the same way to fix it on treo 750 (700w)? I would prefer fix it by myself bc I don´t even kive in the US so, and my treo still as warranty, but dont want to send to technical service bc this could take a long time.
is there any application such as headcold v1 but for windows mobile?
I think in my case could be repaired by software bc when I do a soft-reset with the headphones plugged it works perfectly again.
SOLVED!!!
I just used WD-40 to clean the audio socket but i think that was not the solution. the thing is very simple.
From my point of view I think when the handheld is turned off, you should plug the headphones, and turn the device on with the headphones plugged in, and this should work.
my problem was i used to plugged them in when the device was on, and in this situation the socket does NOT recognize the headphones properly, so just plug them when the palm is OFF.
sounds a silly thing but in my case it worked
hope this help anyone who needs it
Hello.
I'm trying to figure out and possible find a solution for why some headphones don't work with some phones?
For example a very well known brand Scullcandy. Their line of Skullcandy FIX Bud headphones work fine with Galaxy S2, but don't work with Galaxy S3, they also don't work with LG Nitro HD.
On GS3 they work for media playback, but when trying dial out or answer a call, the phone totally disconnects the headphones, the icon that shows when headphones are plugged in is no longer showed and at that point one has to physically re-plug the headphones in order to use them for media playback.
It does sound like phone's software issue, I sure hope so and there is a way fix it...
Another phone I had bad experience was LG Nitro HD. Even though the phone is totally waste of money it don't accept any iphone type headphones, they might work for playback, but mic or buttons don't work.
So what could possibly causing this issues?
I've tried post on phone related sections, but got no answers...
I also tried contact Samsung support regarding this issue, but they simply blew me off with "we don't provide support for 3nd hardware". Now I'm waiting for an answer from Skullcandy support.
Any ideas?
Thank you.
Probably the 3-pin layout of your phone. some are really weird in the way they work
x10man
There might be a couple reasons. The first is the connector. Some headsets use a three pole connector while others use a four pole connector. The other issue will likely be he pin out. The headphone jack might be a standard mechanical interface but not electrically. Both are hard problems but an adapter cable might help you.
All headphones connectors in question are 4 pin type, without using micrometer they look identical. Since all these headphones works fine in mp3 players, where only 3 pin connectors used, means the 3 out of 4 pins are in proper places and connected properly inside the wire.
So, without taking headphones apart it seems physically there is nothing different between them.
In addition, if there would be something physically wrong, it would not explain, why SGS3 sense when Skullcandy headphones connected, it shows headphones icon, but when a phone call initialized it "forgets" about it.
It sure seem to me like software related..
I just received my Tronsmart TS7 Glacier from Geekbuying. The phone is a nice HTC One lookalike with some awesome features including a long life 2200 mah battery, MTK6589 Quad Core processor, 1 GB RAM and a crystal clear screen. It is extremely well built and feels both heavy and solidi the hand. The included cover is rubbish, though it is free in the package so I'm not going to complain. Bluetooth supports A2DP, which works well with my Bluetooth stereo. The bottom menu, home and back keys are capacitive and illuminated - though they are so dim, that they could have avoided backlighting them altogether.The device was easy enough to root, so all in all great value. Make sure you ask for a discount for the phone, after initiating live chat on Geekbuying. I am not affiliated to them.
Oddly enough, the package had the IMEI stickers in the box, which said Cubot One. They look visually identical and I wanted to check if they are infact the same pieces, for firmware support. Can anyone confirm this please?
The supplied headset is rubbish, so I used a BlackBerry and an iPhone "headset" (Headphones with a built in mic and that has 4 contacts on the end of the 3.5mm jack) and used it with the phone. Unfortunately the headset is detected as a headphone only (i.e. With no mic; You see this on an icon near the Wifi signal) - spitting out terrible muffled sounds, unless I press and hold the (Call / End) button on the cord. The second I let go of the button, the sound returns to a terrible state.
If I plug in regular headphones, without a mic, I'm fine, but I have this problem with headsets (Again - headphones with a built in mic with call / end button) used with the TS7.Do any of you have a similar issue? I'm worried I got a half lemon. It's really bothering me. Can this be fixed by software?
Would love to hear back from you. on whether this is a common problem, or one only with my set.
P.S. The rubbish supplied headset is detected / works fine - But they sound TERRIBLE! The supplied headset also works well with my Blackberry 9790 - but my Blackberry headset does not work well with the TS7. Any thoughts? Do I need a special headset?
Thanks in advance,
GP = Dubai
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g_patkar said:
I just received my Tronsmart TS7 Glacier from Geekbuying. The phone is a nice HTC One lookalike with some awesome features including a long life 2200 mah battery, MTK6589 Quad Core processor, 1 GB RAM and a crystal clear screen. It is extremely well built and feels both heavy and solidi the hand. The included cover is rubbish, though it is free in the package so I'm not going to complain. Bluetooth supports A2DP, which works well with my Bluetooth stereo. The bottom menu, home and back keys are capacitive and illuminated - though they are so dim, that they could have avoided backlighting them altogether.The device was easy enough to root, so all in all great value. Make sure you ask for a discount for the phone, after initiating live chat on Geekbuying. I am not affiliated to them.
Oddly enough, the package had the IMEI stickers in the box, which said Cubot One. They look visually identical and I wanted to check if they are infact the same pieces, for firmware support. Can anyone confirm this please?
The supplied headset is rubbish, so I used a BlackBerry and an iPhone "headset" (Headphones with a built in mic and that has 4 contacts on the end of the 3.5mm jack) and used it with the phone. Unfortunately the headset is detected as a headphone only (i.e. With no mic; You see this on an icon near the Wifi signal) - spitting out terrible muffled sounds, unless I press and hold the (Call / End) button on the cord. The second I let go of the button, the sound returns to a terrible state.
If I plug in regular headphones, without a mic, I'm fine, but I have this problem with headsets (Again - headphones with a built in mic with call / end button) used with the TS7.Do any of you have a similar issue? I'm worried I got a half lemon. It's really bothering me. Can this be fixed by software?
Would love to hear back from you. on whether this is a common problem, or one only with my set.
P.S. The rubbish supplied headset is detected / works fine - But they sound TERRIBLE! The supplied headset also works well with my Blackberry 9790 - but my Blackberry headset does not work well with the TS7. Any thoughts? Do I need a special headset?
Thanks in advance,
GP = Dubai
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there are several kinds of headset with MIC. IPHONE'S can not work with chinese phone. NOKIA'S works
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Hi, I have the Cubot One, and have exact the same problem. The rubbish boxed white earphone works, but any of my Sennheisers wont. I think it has something to do with the TRRS standards but I have no fix yet. Have you solved it already??
I have the same problem!
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I have the same problem man, and I was wondering If I'm the only one!!!
I tried with sony ericsson headphones...
And I have an additional problem.. when I connect my phone to my pc speakers or my amplifier and the big speakers, It pauses the music, disconnects and connects again to the cable... Every time I press play it does the same!
And another thing that I couldn't figure out with this phone is that when I go to install a big game it tries to install the sd data to phone's storage,
and says that I don't have enought free space... Even though from starage setting I have set both those settings to SD card!!!
alexander703806 said:
I have the same problem man, and I was wondering If I'm the only one!!!
I tried with sony ericsson headphones...
And I have an additional problem.. when I connect my phone to my pc speakers or my amplifier and the big speakers, It pauses the music, disconnects and connects again to the cable... Every time I press play it does the same!
And another thing that I couldn't figure out with this phone is that when I go to install a big game it tries to install the sd data to phone's storage,
and says that I don't have enought free space... Even though from starage setting I have set both those settings to SD card!!!
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I fount this topic because and I have that problem and do just what you say. I got my phone few days ago.
I try one my in-ear headphones and have terrible sound, then I try speakers from the computer, and when I press play, it let sound for 1 sec and stop immediately. My first conclusion was that perhaps it has a weak sound output on jack, or headphones and speakers have too much ohms resistance.
II hope you will find some solution.
For the memory, try replacing the internal memory to the memory card using this procedure (put link in google translator to translate in english): http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=616319
Hi there. I do not have the pausing problem, but I can now listen to any headphones / headsets with an adapter I bought from eBay.
Seach for "iphone to nokia adapter" on Ebay. It should cost between $2.50 to $3.00.
Hope it helps - I am enjoying all my headsets with the TS7 now (Blackberry, iphone, beats etc).
Do any of you know if there are any firmware updates for this phone?
Thanks...
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Hi there. I do not have the pausing problem, but I can now listen to any headphones / headsets with an adapter I bought from eBay.
Seach for "iphone to nokia adapter" on Ebay. It should cost between $2.50 to $3.00.
Hope it helps - I am enjoying all my headsets with the TS7 now (Blackberry, iphone, beats etc).
Do any of you know if there are any firmware updates for this phone?
Thanks...
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I can confirm it works. I just got a cable that I ordered 14.4. for headphones. Now the sound is normal (no more like to play in a barrel), and recognizes the headset with a microphone (in the taskbar near the clock displays the headset with a microphone, before was just headphone icon). But I still can not play music through the speakers of the computer. Immediately after press play, the song stops and disconnect the speakers. Probably they have too much resistance or something that can not "push" sound.
Oh, and here's a link cable: http://www.ebay.com/itm/22132695223...arms=gh1g=I221326952237.N19.S2.M-34513.R2.TR2
Hey everyone, I took a leap of faith and bought the following product from Amazon...it's about $10:
http://a.co/49qKkqH
I'm shocked to say this thing works perfectly in my Mi Mix 2. I'm not an expert on audio but it sounds the same as with the standard included dongle, and the charging seems to work fine too but I think it's limited to 500mA perhaps as a USB-C limitation. I also tested the charge rates with my Axon 7 (which won't allow for audio with this thing, but does allow charging), and it *seems* that this charger works at about 0.5 amps only but at least it will allow for GPS/music, etc. without really bleeding battery power. I was able to keep a slight positive charge with WiFi off, GPS active, screen on low-ish brightness, and music playing (from internal storage...not streaming music) over the phone speakers..albeit only about 50-100 mA...but, the charge percent did slowly go up.
Of course, I'm not sure how long this thing will last...or if there may be some other deficiency with it that I'm not aware of, but so far so good and if you're frustrated by the lack of a headphone jack this may help you...and it's pretty cheap so I guess I'm not too worried.
EDIT: One limitation I just noticed...the microphone on my headset seems not to work during calls (the audio of the caller is fine though)...but the microphone on the phone is fine so you just have to aim your voice into the phone's base. Also, it seems like the controls on my headset don't work either (i.e., volume up/down, etc.). So, I'm not sure if different headsets will yield different results but just wanted to communicate this [apparent] limitation.
EDIT (AGAIN): The button issue/microphone issue seems to be resolved by reversing the orientation of the male USB-C connector. That is, if you only get a headphone and not a full-function headset when you use this, try unplugging the USB-C connector from the phone, flipping it over, and then reconnecting it.
https://www.amazon.com/Wofalodata-H...=1509570567&sr=8-1&keywords=wofalodata+type+c
I have that one, and it works well for charging and playing music.
flyer_andy said:
Hey everyone, I took a leap of faith and bought the following product from Amazon...it's about $10:
http://a.co/49qKkqH
I'm shocked to say this thing works perfectly in my Mi Mix 2. I'm not an expert on audio but it sounds the same as with the standard included dongle, and the charging seems to work fine too but I think it's limited to 500mA perhaps as a USB-C limitation. I also tested the charge rates with my Axon 7 (which won't allow for audio with this thing, but does allow charging), and it *seems* that this charger works at about 0.5 amps only but at least it will allow for GPS/music, etc. without really bleeding battery power. I was able to keep a slight positive charge with WiFi off, GPS active, screen on low-ish brightness, and music playing (from internal storage...not streaming music) over the phone speakers..albeit only about 50-100 mA...but, the charge percent did slowly go up.
Of course, I'm not sure how long this thing will last...or if there may be some other deficiency with it that I'm not aware of, but so far so good and if you're frustrated by the lack of a headphone jack this may help you...and it's pretty cheap so I guess I'm not too worried.
EDIT: One limitation I just noticed...the microphone on my headset seems not to work during calls (the audio of the caller is fine though)...but the microphone on the phone is fine so you just have to aim your voice into the phone's base. Also, it seems like the controls on my headset don't work either (i.e., volume up/down, etc.). So, I'm not sure if different headsets will yield different results but just wanted to communicate this [apparent] limitation.
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Thanks! I was going to to start a thread asking if anyone found one that works.
I have a couple questions about the headphone buttons. Does the play/pause button still work with the combo dongle? Or do none of the buttons work?
Unrelated to the Amazon product, do your headphone buttons work with the Xiaomi dongle? I have a headset with a play/pause button and volume up/down that works perfectly with my Mix but only the play/pause button works correctly on the Mix 2. Are you running stock ROM? I have a feeling my button problems have to do with the fact that my Mix has a MIUI-based ROM and I have a Lineage-based ROM on the Mix 2.
Either way thanks for taking the plunge and sharing.
alose said:
https://www.amazon.com/Wofalodata-H...=1509570567&sr=8-1&keywords=wofalodata+type+c
I have that one, and it works well for charging and playing music.
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Do headphone buttons work with this one? Is charging as slow as the one in the OP?
chimera533 said:
Thanks! I was going to to start a thread asking if anyone found one that works.
I have a couple questions about the headphone buttons. Does the play/pause button still work with the combo dongle? Or do none of the buttons work?
Unrelated to the Amazon product, do your headphone buttons work with the Xiaomi dongle? I have a headset with a play/pause button and volume up/down that works perfectly with my Mix but only the play/pause button works correctly on the Mix 2. Are you running stock ROM? I have a feeling my button problems have to do with the fact that my Mix has a MIUI-based ROM and I have a Lineage-based ROM on the Mix 2.
Either way thanks for taking the plunge and sharing.
Do headphone buttons work with this one? Is charging as slow as the one in the OP?
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Yes I have the exact same experience with respect to the buttons...when I try the stock dongle, I do get pause/call answer functions but the volume up/down doesn't work. I know that Xiaomi does have their own headphones so maybe you don't get full functionality with non-Xiaomi headphones? Not sure...I'm using Bose headphones, as a reference.
Ok...so something really weird just happened...using the combo dongle I now *do* get phone microphone audio through my headset and also the call button does seem to work, but instead of ending the call it mutes the microphone. Also, the icon in the status bar now shows headset+mic and not just headset...maybe it was a quirk earlier or the headphone was loose or something.
Also, I seem to get much better charge rates with the Mi Mix 2 as opposed to the Axon 7...I'm getting about 1000 mA I think...I've attached a screenshot. It shows around 800 mA but I bet with the screen off you'd get around 1000.
Sorry for lots of inconsistency here! I'll have to keep trying this thing but it does seem that there's hope!
EDIT: Ok I think I figured out the inconsistent operation. I had purchased two of these dongles...one of them appears to have a defect where audio works, but buttons and microphone do not. The headphone jack is tighter on the [half] defective one so maybe there's just a bad connection in there...in any case it looks like there may be some manufacturing QA issues with the dongle which means they may have some inconsistencies between them...maybe it'd be worth buying two or three and and planning on sending back any that aren't needed.
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Fast charging is supported on the Wofalodata, and at least Pause/play works.
I ordered the one in the OP and I'm not impressed. Charging seems to be stuck around 500mA for me. I could live with that. Zero of my headphone buttons work which is less forgivable. But the worst part is it's already falling apart. The headphone jack was so tight that I pulled off the outer sheath while trying to cram my headphones into it. Picture attached. That silver part hanging loose around the wire should be attached to the headphone jack.
I ordered the second adapter from this thread today to see how I like it. Curse Apple for starting the no headphone jack trend.
Edit: I now also get really bad static through my headphones when I have the adapter plugged in to a power source. Before I was using it with a half charged phone. Now my phone is fully charged. That may be the difference.
chimera533 said:
I ordered the one in the OP and I'm not impressed. Charging seems to be stuck around 500mA for me. I could live with that. Zero of my headphone buttons work which is less forgivable. But the worst part is it's already falling apart. The headphone jack was so tight that I pulled off the outer sheath while trying to cram my headphones into it. Picture attached. That silver part hanging loose around the wire should be attached to the headphone jack.
I ordered the second adapter from this thread today to see how I like it. Curse Apple for starting the no headphone jack trend.
Edit: I now also get really bad static through my headphones when I have the adapter plugged in to a power source. Before I was using it with a half charged phone. Now my phone is fully charged. That may be the difference.
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Yeah mine does the static noise if it's sitting at 100% charge too...best to unplug at that point if possible though I agree that's annoying.
Sorry to hear the silver part fell off...one of my adapters is a bit tight on the 3.5mm jack too but it has gotten better with use.
As far as the buttons - I think I've discovered the issue. It's totally bizarre...but...it seems that if I insert the USB-C male end in with the metal seam upward (i.e., so that the headphone jack is on the left side) the buttons work as expected (as does the microphone). In case you just want headphone functionality, the adapter can be flipped/inserted where the 3.5mm jack is on the right side of the USB-C port...the phone's speakerphone mic appears to pick up audio for calls in this use case but it actually is useful when I'm using my car's AUX port as I can make better calls way. Here's a video:
Thank you! It does matter how you plug it in. For me it's actually the opposite. I need to plug it in with the seam facing the back of the phone (headphone jack on right) to get my play/pause working. None of the other buttons work but I wasn't expecting them to.
I also get a slight hiss when the phone isn't at 100% charge and like you said a horrible static noise when plugged in at 100%. But I think I can deal with that.
I think now I can at least superglue the sheath back on and get some use out of it.
chimera533 said:
Thank you! It does matter how you plug it in. For me it's actually the opposite. I need to plug it in with the seam facing the back of the phone (headphone jack on right) to get my play/pause working. None of the other buttons work but I wasn't expecting them to.
I also get a slight hiss when the phone isn't at 100% charge and like you said a horrible static noise when plugged in at 100%. But I think I can deal with that.
I think now I can at least superglue the sheath back on and get some use out of it.
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Sweet! How odd! Yeah definitely not the best-built accessory but so far it does seem to work...I hope at some point a more reputable producer makes something like this as it's a great idea but like you pointed out...not-so-perfect implementation. I will keep in mind your experience with that sheath coming off though...now I know to be super careful with that connection!
And I totally agree on the whole killing the headphone jack thing...really really aggravated with that development myself...it seems the OEMs are driving the marketplace whereas it should be the other way around.
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Sweet! How odd! Yeah definitely not the best-built accessory but so far it does seem to work...I hope at some point a more reputable producer makes something like this as it's a great idea but like you pointed out...not-so-perfect implementation. I will keep in mind your experience with that sheath coming off though...now I know to be super careful with that connection!
And I totally agree on the whole killing the headphone jack thing...really really aggravated with that development myself...it seems the OEMs are driving the marketplace whereas it should be the other way around.
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This one works, I have this one I use while in bed with headphones and charging, Doesn't fast charge, but it's not really slow either.
Its made of metal and the cables are braided, Its good quality.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Typ...-3-5mm-Jack-Audio-Earphone-Y/32832185514.html
I have an alternative solution. I'm beyond impressed with these things for how much they cost. Good sound, good battery life, and good comfort. They don't ever drop connection either. I used to hate on BT headphones until I got these.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06VVL4WJZ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Everyone knows normal 3.5mm audio adapter are not fit for Essential phone due to DAC chipset required. But when you are listening to music, you cannot charge your phone.
Now i recommend a 2 in 1 adapter for you!
What's special?
1. Hi-Res sound quality with a qualified DAC - 96KHz/24 Bits
2. Max 3A PD fast charging
3. You can do 1+2 above at the same time
Here is link for you:
https://amzn.to/2mi2BXL
You will never stop the movie/game on your Essential and pull off the headphone, put on the power and continue with a speaker again.
Thanks for sharing , I ordered one and it works
I'd like to see a video review and some photos of this if possible, the way this post was written sounds like an advertisement of your own product, or a product you got for free from the manufacturer (no offense). Also wondering if it's fully USB-C spec compliant so there won't be any voltage issues when using it.
Edit: Looking at OP's past posts, he is the seller.
@Teclover Bill send me one to review
Blazekitten said:
Thanks for sharing , I ordered one and it works
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Good to know!
Gamernivek said:
I'd like to see a video review and some photos of this if possible, the way this post was written sounds like an advertisement of your own product, or a product you got for free from the manufacturer (no offense). Also wondering if it's fully USB-C spec compliant so there won't be any voltage issues when using it.
Edit: Looking at OP's past posts, he is the seller.
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Happy to tell you, i developed this product, but sell by my friend.
I am open to collect all issues to improve it and listen to public what else they need.
Due to this product needs to be different with normal 2 in 1 usb c adapter (without DAC), the inside design is different. That's why all other 2 in 1 adapters cannot work with external DAC required phones, except for Moshi's. They are totally 2 different stories standing on development point.
For normal usb c adapters, the resistor lays in usb c end, however for this kind of adapters, the components have to put on the motherboard. That is to say, the motherboard will take all the risks and devices won't. The motherboard is 3 inch away from your phone, the heat won't affect the phone.
For voltage issue you are concerning, 5V comes out from power supply all the way, 2A charging into phone. One thing i have to mention: use original power supply to charge!
You are welcome to ask other users from another thread below who got this adapter!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/accessories/finally-pixel-2-xl-audio-pd-charging-2-t3807588
TheRealKingSen said:
@Teclover Bill send me one to review
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I am happy to. Check the message box.
Teclover Bill said:
Happy to tell you, i developed this product, but sell by my friend.
I am open to collect all issues to improve it and listen to public what else they need.
Due to this product needs to be different with normal 2 in 1 usb c adapter (without DAC), the inside design is different. That's why all other 2 in 1 adapters cannot work with external DAC required phones, except for Moshi's. They are totally 2 different stories standing on development point.
For normal usb c adapters, the resistor lays in usb c end, however for this kind of adapters, the components have to put on the motherboard. That is to say, the motherboard will take all the risks and devices won't. The motherboard is 3 inch away from your phone, the heat won't affect the phone.
For voltage issue you are concerning, 5V comes out from power supply all the way, 2A charging into phone. One thing i have to mention: use original power supply to charge!
You are welcome to ask other users from another thread below who got this adapter!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/accessories/finally-pixel-2-xl-audio-pd-charging-2-t3807588
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I actually purchased it to test it out. Audio quality is definitely better than the included 48kHz adapter, but I'm running into a problem with it right out of the box. There's a pulsing clicking/popping noise that can occasionally be heard at a low volume in quarter second intervals when headphones are plugged into the adapter and you're on a screen with no sound playing (volume of the phone has no bearing on this) There's also some static when switching between screens with no sound. The OEM 3.5mm adapter doesn't have these problems. Also, the clicking/popping noise can also be heard when the adapter is plugged plugged into the wall with USB-C but not plugged into the phone. So it doesn't really matter where it's plugged into, but if there's a power source, the noise is heard. I'm thinking mine may have been a dud, but would like to hear from you or the seller on wether or not this is a normal occurrence. Sent an email to your friend, the seller, yesterday, waiting for him/her to get back to me now regarding getting a possible replacement.
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I actually purchased it to test it out. Audio quality is definitely better than the included 48kHz adapter, but I'm running into a problem with it right out of the box. There's a pulsing clicking/popping noise that can occasionally be heard at a low volume in quarter second intervals when headphones are plugged into the adapter and you're on a screen with no sound playing (volume of the phone has no bearing on this) There's also some static when switching between screens with no sound. The OEM 3.5mm adapter doesn't have these problems. Also, the clicking/popping noise can also be heard when the adapter is plugged plugged into the wall with USB-C but not plugged into the phone. So it doesn't really matter where it's plugged into, but if there's a power source, the noise is heard. I'm thinking mine may have been a dud, but would like to hear from you or the seller on wether or not this is a normal occurrence. Sent an email to your friend, the seller, yesterday, waiting for him/her to get back to me now regarding getting a possible replacement.
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In order to improve it, I'hv asked my friend to send you a replacement, cost on me.
Your problem should not happen, lets see how the replacement works.
I suggest below plugging steps:
1. plug the wall charger to adapter
2. plug the adapter to phone
3. plug headphone to adapter
waiting for your report on replacement.
Teclover Bill said:
In order to improve it, I'hv asked my friend to send you a replacement, cost on me.
Your problem should not happen, lets see how the replacement works.
I suggest below plugging steps:
1. plug the wall charger to adapter
2. plug the adapter to phone
3. plug headphone to adapter
waiting for your report on replacement.
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Thanks! I'll try that from here on out. I realized I used the wrong words to describe the noise in my last post, the sound is actually more like a digital beep. It doesn't sound like distortion (well, the static when switching screens does), but more like something you'd hear from an error message popup in rapid succession.
The product you developed is very good other than this though. The audio quality is better than the OEM adapter and charging is fast. I'm excited to use this as a part of my daily routine!
I did have some observations regarding the design though if you'll hear me out - especially in regards to the cable you used. The cable is very flexible, which may make it more comfortable to use, but I have doubts on how well it can hold up. In my experience, the thiner and less rigid the cable, the more likely it is to fail. If the cable was more rigid and half the length it may hold up longer. I'm sure you have done more testing than I have in this regard though, so after a few months of use I could give you some better findings.
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Thanks! I'll try that from here on out. I realized I used the wrong words to describe the noise in my last post, the sound is actually more like a digital beep. It doesn't sound like distortion (well, the static when switching screens does), but more like something you'd hear from an error message popup in rapid succession.
The product you developed is very good other than this though. The audio quality is better than the OEM adapter and charging is fast. I'm excited to use this as a part of my daily routine!
I did have some observations regarding the design though if you'll hear me out - especially in regards to the cable you used. The cable is very flexible, which may make it more comfortable to use, but I have doubts on how well it can hold up. In my experience, the thiner and less rigid the cable, the more likely it is to fail. If the cable was more rigid and half the length it may hold up longer. I'm sure you have done more testing than I have in this regard though, so after a few months of use I could give you some better findings.
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Thanks my friend. Your voice is always important to me.
For the sounding like distortion when switching screens, lets test the replacement;
For the cable, don't worry, this is best cable we are using. My partner factory is a professional cable manufacturer for 10 years and they has all kinds of cable. This one is the most expensive one. Check the copper inside by cutting it off! Come back to me within 1 year if the cable has problem.
Teclover Bill said:
Thanks my friend. Your voice is always important to me.
For the sounding like distortion when switching screens, lets test the replacement;
For the cable, don't worry, this is best cable we are using. My partner factory is a professional cable manufacturer for 10 years and they has all kinds of cable. This one is the most expensive one. Check the copper inside by cutting it off! Come back to me within 1 year if the cable has problem.
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I actually got the replacement very quickly, and I haven't noticed the beeping noise again yet, but the static/white noise is still there when I switch screens. It doesn't happen with the OEM adapter, but it's something that's present with this one. I tried 5 pairs of headphones and found that it varies in intensity depending on which pair I'm using. The best pair I used was a pair of Nox earbuds (discontinued brand), while the worst were JVC. JBL, Xiaomi, and TaoTronics all tested about the same. When switching screens/apps with no volume playing, there's a initial pop of static, followed by a second or so of white noise before it goes away. The Nox buds were the only pair of headphones I tried that only had the initial pop (no white noise following), and at a lower volume than the others I tested. It's almost as if it's trying to pick up on sound that should be playing on the new screen, but once it can't find any it gives up. It may just be a device specific problem as I haven't seen anything regarding this on the Pixel thread, and it's not something serious that will make or break the product, but it is a minor annoyance. Since the replacement had the same problem, I'm assuming it's something that will be true for all stock.
Edit: After a few days the beeping showed up on the replacement as well. Oh well, it still works great if sound is actually playing, but if you're like me and just have your headphones plugged in all the time, it's not something that would replace the OEM adapter (for the 3.5mm adapter only).
Thanks My friend,
It is really a helpful review from you! I have asked other testers also using an Essential phone but they don't have the problem like yours. However, as long as you find problem, i have the responsibility to find them out and fix it. These days i have been looking for several essential phone users to test and waiting for there reports. Meanwhile i am also asking my team to simulate your case and fix that problem, but that need time. Although the phone model is same, it needs time and lucks to re-appear the same problem you have.
Thank you for your wonderful report, i won't ruin your hard work.
Gamernivek said:
I actually got the replacement very quickly, and I haven't noticed the beeping noise again yet, but the static/white noise is still there when I switch screens. It doesn't happen with the OEM adapter, but it's something that's present with this one. I tried 5 pairs of headphones and found that it varies in intensity depending on which pair I'm using. The best pair I used was a pair of Nox earbuds (discontinued brand), while the worst were JVC. JBL, Xiaomi, and TaoTronics all tested about the same. When switching screens/apps with no volume playing, there's a initial pop of static, followed by a second or so of white noise before it goes away. The Nox buds were the only pair of headphones I tried that only had the initial pop (no white noise following), and at a lower volume than the others I tested. It's almost as if it's trying to pick up on sound that should be playing on the new screen, but once it can't find any it gives up. It may just be a device specific problem as I haven't seen anything regarding this on the Pixel thread, and it's not something serious that will make or break the product, but it is a minor annoyance. Since the replacement had the same problem, I'm assuming it's something that will be true for all stock.
Edit: After a few days the beeping showed up on the replacement as well. Oh well, it still works great if sound is actually playing, but if you're like me and just have your headphones plugged in all the time, it's not something that would replace the OEM adapter (for the 3.5mm adapter only).
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Works great for phones with no headphone (3.5) jack. I have the Essential Phone and being able to charge and listen to music/movies via 3.5 jack at the same time has been awesome. The sound is just as good or better than the USB C to 3.5 jack that came with the phone. This should have been included in the box when the phone arrived. I loaded Viper up and it sounds even better. I will be buying again for my other phones..
Thanks so much Johnny for helping test!
I am also looking forward to know whether you have the same problem with the friend in above comments? He is also using an Essential Phone, but he found some problem when using.
I know you are busy, take your time and test it for more days before reports.
As a developer i am eager to kill all imperfect things and make it zero issue to everyone.
Thanks!
johnnycooper said:
Works great for phones with no headphone (3.5) jack. I have the Essential Phone and being able to charge and listen to music/movies via 3.5 jack at the same time has been awesome. The sound is just as good or better than the USB C to 3.5 jack that came with the phone. This should have been included in the box when the phone arrived. I loaded Viper up and it sounds even better. I will be buying again for my other phones..
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Teclover Bill said:
Thanks so much Johnny for helping test!
I am also looking forward to know whether you have the same problem with the friend in above comments? He is also using an Essential Phone, but he found some problem when using.
I know you are busy, take your time and test it for more days before reports.
As a developer i am eager to kill all imperfect things and make it zero issue to everyone.
Thanks!
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I have not had the pop sound/noise when switching apps or anything else. It really has been great. I am rooted running viper though.
Teclover Bill said:
Thanks My friend,
It is really a helpful review from you! I have asked other testers also using an Essential phone but they don't have the problem like yours. However, as long as you find problem, i have the responsibility to find them out and fix it. These days i have been looking for several essential phone users to test and waiting for there reports. Meanwhile i am also asking my team to simulate your case and fix that problem, but that need time. Although the phone model is same, it needs time and lucks to re-appear the same problem you have.
Thank you for your wonderful report, i won't ruin your hard work.
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I'm going to see if I can record the sound somehow. I'm curious as to wether it would play when connected to a speaker - I'll try that next. Kind of odd that I'm the only one who has reports of the extra noises. 2 out of 2 adapters I've tried both had the problem though, so I don't think it's a coincidence. I've also tried the adapters on 2 different Essential Phones and had the same results.
Finnaly an adapter that looks like it works as advertised .
Do you maybe have an EU store too, so that I don't have to pay an arm and a leg for customs and shipping?
Can't wait to enjoy charging and watching a movie at the same time!
To be honest, manufacturers should include an adapter like this by default if they decide to remove 3.5mm port and DAC.
Kind Regards
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For voltage issue you are concerning, 5V comes out from power supply all the way, 2A charging into phone. One thing i have to mention: use original power supply to charge!
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So this adapter charges at lower output than OEM (3A)?
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Yes lower than 3A for smartphones. Only when you use it on laptop like Macbook will reach 3A max.
For PH-1, the max current reach 2.5A max. If you have facebook, i can send you a video showing the charging voltage/current/watt
Spey said:
So this adapter charges at lower output than OEM (3A)?
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