Radio FM without the headphone - Touch Pro, Fuze General

Is it possible? sometimes i am walking through the street without the headphone, wanting to hear FM, and i cant...
does anybody know a way?

Wavelengths from radiostations are like a foot or more in length.. so you need an antenna thats atleast a foot or so to pick up those radio waves.
The phone uses the earphones as a antenna, so I guess you have to have it to pickup those waves.

mmm... well just have your headphones, conect them, and place them on your shoulder hanging to your back (it can be inside your clothes so no body see it) and put the phone on speaker (or what ever that its called on the radio program)
anyways the phone doesnt sounds too high, are you going to be able to hear it??

egk-69 said:
anyways the phone doesnt sounds too high, are you going to be able to hear it??
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Yea the FM volume is too low to listen outdoors. Anyone has figured out a fix? I don't have that problem with Sling player.

I don't know why, but lately I put the usb>3.5mm converter in my phone and started up the radio, and it worked!
The signal wasn't as strong as with the headset plugged in, but it was decent to say the least. Only stations that already have bad reception don't work (naturally).
So yes, it is possible.

egk-69 said:
anyways the phone doesnt sounds too high, are you going to be able to hear it??
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i always listen to stuff (audio and video) using a bt headset after converting all sound to it. i use a software called "bt audio" for that purpose. so, if anybody can find a way to receive fm reception without the headset, that'll be great.

AthenaLod said:
iif anybody can find a way to receive fm reception without the headset, that'll be great.
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Why don't you read the post above yours?

Scalage said:
I don't know why, but lately I put the usb>3.5mm converter in my phone and started up the radio, and it worked!
The signal wasn't as strong as with the headset plugged in, but it was decent to say the least. Only stations that already have bad reception don't work (naturally).
So yes, it is possible.
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Strange, it doesn't work with my Fuze. I have to still plug in a 3.5mm headphone to get it to work.

Anything change in the registry when you put that in?

It doesn't matter if anything changes in the registry or not. Do this: find an FM radio like one of those cheesy little things with the collapsable antenna. Take off the antenna and then see how many stations you can get. If you don't want to put forth the effort, the answer is "None". There's no difference. No antenna means no stations, period. It also seems that you can't just jam any old USB connector in there, also.

Well, my usb converter is very small and cheap, so I'm sure there's no antenna in there. But still my radio works fine with the converter inserted
It makes no sense, but it works.

sdbe said:
Strange, it doesn't work with my Fuze. I have to still plug in a 3.5mm headphone to get it to work.
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I just stick my stylus in my 3.5mm jack and it thinks it has headphones, but the some stations are still weak

What about the TV Out cable?
I have a HTC original TV out cable as long as the headset cable. Does anyone know how to trick the device to see it as an antena for the FM radio? Thank you.

Confirmed - My fuze running Romeos latest ROM works with a simple 3 inch long mini headphone jack (2.5mm) adapter without any headphones. Works great on loudspeaker.

Scalage said:
Well, my usb converter is very small and cheap, so I'm sure there's no antenna in there. But still my radio works fine with the converter inserted
It makes no sense, but it works.
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Same here, I plug in my chinese 3.5mm adapter and the radio works so obviously it doesn't need anything for an antenna. Someone must patch that software to get the FM to work without plugging in anything.

Daved+ said:
Same here, I plug in my chinese 3.5mm adapter and the radio works so obviously it doesn't need anything for an antenna. Someone must patch that software to get the FM to work without plugging in anything.
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Actually that 3.5mm adapter has copper wire in it. Even though it's a short length, the phone still uses it as an antenna. Plug in a pair of headphones and you will see an increase of signal.

you can change the headset state in the registry and i ran the program with it like that and saw that i got signal but no sound was coming out.

The only way i can think of not using ANY headset would be a hardware hack to add some length of antenna to the USB port.
It's really down to physics.. here's a link for TV's: http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/siting.html
You may be able to get some signal from a few cm of antenna, chances are you're not getting a very good one.

The Jack of Clubs said:
you can change the headset state in the registry and i ran the program with it like that and saw that i got signal but no sound was coming out.
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Could you tell me please where in the registry is the key for the headset state ?!

sure thing. its at hklm\system\state\hardware\headset. change to 1 to make it think you have headphones plugged in.

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Radio FM

Is possible hear radio without cordless for example with a Bluethooth headset?
Like other HTC phones with an FM radio, reception is dependent on having the wired headset plugged in as it is the antenna for the radio. Without it plugged in, you won't get any reception.
I suppose, however I have never tried it, that you could stream the radio over A2DP to a bluetooth headset as long as you have the wired headset plugged in as well to act as the antenna. Maybe you could wrap up the headset and keep it in your pocket plugged into the phone - seems like a pretty bulky solution though.
Hope that helped - good luck!
Thank You PSARGENT but I tried already and don´t work. Anyone knows any trick for it?
Also, if psargent's suggestion works, be careful that the headset you plug in must be one with a microphone built in (e.g. the headset that comes with the Touch Cruise) because it is the cable to the mic that is used as the FM aerial so a simple adaptor that just connects the audio outputs to a 3.5mm jack (e.g. the Boxwave adaptor) will not provide an input to the FM aerial.
Edit: I just saw that our posts crossed and that psargent's suggestion doesn't work.
- Julian
This is the only part of the phone that I don't like. Why can't you use a BT to listen to the radio. Sure, I can see that it needs the wire for antenna purposes, but why can't you have that plugged in and listen via BT?
I install BTAudio, and hoped that that would solve it, but it didn't...

Stereo Headset(And other similar accesories) do not work with Cupcake/1.5?

I've been using Haykuro's builds, and now the latest JF1.5 build (So snappy. ), but in none of these builds does the Stereo Headset that came with the phone work, if you plug them in the sound keeps playing from the phone itself. Is there something special I'm supposed to do now that you didn't have to before? Or is it just something they forgot to keep on while they were busy making Bluetooth stereo work?
Mine work with JF1.5 ADP, both the stock single wired headset, and my headphones plugged into the HTC 3.5mm adapter. Music plays, can make calls, the button controls the playback... not a single problem. Have you tried adjusting the volume with them plugged in?
Well that's odd.. Yeah I have, it just changes the volume of the phone. Hmm.
update the radio
TwilitTruth said:
I've been using Haykuro's builds, and now the latest JF1.5 build (So snappy. ), but in none of these builds does the Stereo Headset that came with the phone work, if you plug them in the sound keeps playing from the phone itself. Is there something special I'm supposed to do now that you didn't have to before? Or is it just something they forgot to keep on while they were busy making Bluetooth stereo work?
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you need to update the radio on the phone. download
ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip on
http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecode.com/
This fixed the same issue I was having.
Hmm, okay. I was pretty sure I already did that, but I'll try again and get back with my results tomorrow.
TwilitTruth said:
Hmm, okay. I was pretty sure I already did that, but I'll try again and get back with my results tomorrow.
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I'm having similar issues. My HTC 3-1 adapter stopped working, but my stock adapter does work. I also flashed the radio. Please report back if re-flashing the radio fixes your issues.
Had a chance to test it out sooner than I thought. Sorry, I had ASSUMED that the 3.5mm adapter wouldn't work since my HTC 3-1 adapter didn't, but hadn't actually tried it. :x Anyways it DOES work, as per above though, the 3 in 1 does NOT.
However, I have found a workaround. With the phone unplugged, Plus your 3.5mm jack into the 3.5mm adapter that came with the phone (The one with the button), then plug the 3.5mm adapter into the 3-1's USB slot on the side, and if you're like me you'll be plugging in your car charger too, and attaching it to the back of the 3-1 adapter. Anyways, then just plug the 3-1 adapter into the phone and it WILL work. Plus you get the functionality of the little on-off button. I'm happy now.
Still, seems odd that the 3-1 doesn't work as intended (Being able to plug the 3.5mm jack directly into it.), but for my purposes this case is solved.
Well this is great for use early buyers who were treated so well and received the official adapters that are apparently the only ones that still work with the phone. /sarcasm
Seriously. What the hell.
I'm probably buying some A2DP headphones anyways, but since my original headphones' connections somehow got weakened in the little volume control nub, I'm pissed.
I have no problems with my 3 and1 adapter or stock headphone adapter with the new JF 1.50ADP....
LOL... great minds think alike. I had already discovered this workaround as well and can confirm it does work just as you said for me too. I'm okay with this solution for now, but it would be nice to eliminate some wires from my audio setup in car, rather than adding to the mess.
The new radio update must have re-mapped some function that was required for the standard headphone auxiliary outputs to work. That's the only explanation that I can think of, unless someone using a previous Cupcake build and the new radio can confirm that a 3-to-1 adapter works okay...
So, when I was using Haykuro's build I noticed a little Icon on the Notifications bar that let me know I had the 3.5mm Headphone jack plugged into the mini usb, But now on JF's 1.5, It's not there anymore. I also washed my 3.55 plug, So I don't know if something happened or if its JF's. Does anyone else know what I'm talking about?
i am also having this problem with my htc 3-in-1, i have flashed the radio. i have not tested the workaround yet.
rwbarnes67 said:
I have no problems with my 3 and1 adapter or stock headphone adapter with the new JF 1.50ADP....
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Which 3-in-1 adapter do you have?
Bluetooth Stereo not working here
I can use a regular headset fine.
but when i pair up my bt stereo a2dp headset I get no call sound. Regular sound tops at this point. Then I have to reset my phone to get sound back.
Anyone experiencing this ??
it seemed to be in the official ADP 1.5 so I guess It may be an unfixed Android bug.
same issue here =(
I ALWAYS used to use my G1 as a music player in my car, but now that doesn't work =/ I'm stuck using CDs! =( lol
I have an HTC adapter I actually bought at a Tmobile store so I can't bealieve it doesn't work now with these new builds. Mine only has the male end that goes to the G1 and 1 female where I plug an aux cable into so I can;t do the trick you guys talked about above.
If ANYONE can help out, it would be very appreciated.
The htc 3-in-1 adapter was reported not to work as intended pretty soon after the HTC version of 1.5 was released. It doesn't register on the phone. I suspect all derivatives of the HTC version (like JF's) will behave the same. I also suspect this will be fixed in an upcoming service release.
/Mats
So there's no current fix for this?
shadixt said:
So there's no current fix for this?
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Nothing beyond using some other adapter, as far as I know. Ironically, only the original HTC 3in1 adapter seems to cause this behaviour.
/Mats
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So there's no current fix for this?
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As noted previously, you CAN continue to use the HTC 3-in-1 adapter, but only in combination with a second USB to headphone jack adapter (such as the original one that came packaged with the G1 for the past few months). Not a fix, but the workaround does work fine.
this is almost crazy
So what you are trying to say is.. We wanted Bluetooth, so we got Bluetooth, but we lost Headset feature??? Other than the iPhone, there is not a phone out there that acts like this? Dont get me wrong I love the G1 and I'm not really sure how I got along with out it.. but really guys, Fixing one thing only to break another is not a good business practice. My guess is that the iPhone will work the first time.. but only time will tell... Has anyone heard anything about the Beam files feature?
//j

Problem with sound! Need help.

I bought yesterday an XDA Exec w/o sound.I changed rom, radio and there was still no sound. Today i opened it, and.. There was sound for few seconds! but only few, now its still w/o sound..
What can it be?
Sounds like thers a loose connection inside the uni
Should be a harware problem... or some sort of loose connection inside the uni
as you said, when u opened it there was a sound for few seconds.. so the first impression is that, there should be some loose circuit connection with the speaker.....
rajivshahi said:
Should be a harware problem... or some sort of loose connection inside the uni
as you said, when u opened it there was a sound for few seconds.. so the first impression is that, there should be some loose circuit connection with the speaker.....
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it could be...
i see now that mini-jack input don't work too.
So, I've just bought new speakers coz old ones were "masacred", changed it and theres still no sound. What else can it be? I think mainboard is ok coz there was sound but it disappeared.
and can someone explain me how to change mini-jack input in uni? i have new 1 but i dont know how to change it. Old 1 is whole in tin so i guess its broken.​
please, anyone?
Try to do hard reset.
Connect a headset through the headset-jack and try listening music. If it works then problem in the jack...
tomal said:
Connect a headset through the headset-jack and try listening music. If it works then problem in the jack...
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i bought new speakers & mini-jack, connected it to phone and.. speakers still doesnt work, but jack works fine.
possibly a problem with the jack itself, or the plug detection eletronics, IMHO
3.5 Jack
I had this same problem and was the 3.5 jack, what you should do is to open the uni and fix the litle pins inside the jack, after fix it i had never use again the 3.5 jack.
What happens is that the jack is "thinking" that the cable is plugged and that´s the reason why the sound do not came out from the speakers
Saludos
Repair jasjar
Pls check this site for repair your uni, a little expensive but useful
http://www.ppctechs.com/i-mate-JASJAR_496/imate--choose_unit.htm
Saludos
read this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519328

Force all sound via the jack and not the speaker

Hi,
How is it possible to force all sounds to go the headphone jack and not to the speaker ?
I would like to be certain that the music I am playing on my Windows Mobile phone is going through the headphone.
Why? because sometimes I accidentally remove the headphone jack from the phone and the music is then going loudly out of the speaker of the phone !! very annoying !
Chris
Take the phone apart, check by the headphone socket for how it detects a jack is inserted. On my old iPaq the jack moved a tab inside it breaking the circuit to the rear speaker. If memory serves, the speaker wasn't soldered in, it fitted a socket, pretty sure one of my older phones was like that too.
Of course it'd make your device useless as a phone without a working speaker, and you could end up destroying your phone completely.
Try looping a rubber band around your phone and the headphone jack to keep it in place, or just be more careful, or get bluetooth headphones
I don't want to physically remove the speaker of my phone. I find the speaker very useful when talking at home talking to people.
The problem is that I don't want the speaker to be used when I am listening music on the phone.
So the solution would have to be a software one.
chris
bluetooth headset or rubber band are your best bets then.
xaccers said:
bluetooth headset or rubber band are your best bets then.
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What do you mean by bluetooth headset ? If I put my mobile phone in bluetooth headset, would it solve the problem ?
chris247 said:
What do you mean by bluetooth headset ? If I put my mobile phone in bluetooth headset, would it solve the problem ?
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Ye it will cause you cant accidentally pull it out cause it doesnt use the jack, but negativ is that it drains battery and i think its much, and if the battery on the bluetooth headset dies i think that it stil will think its on so it doesnt use the speaker, so thats the best solution, i dont think people here can make a hack for that cause i think its to advance, hasnt been a issue before and even if no one has made a hack. so i think its the best and maybe only solution. sorry my english hope it helpt
edit: hope you know that you need to use a bluetooth headset, and you cant just make the choice on the phone without use a real headset
So I will look with a bluetooth headset. True it drains more battery and this kind of headset needs to be power charged (so easy to forget )
chris247 said:
So I will look with a bluetooth headset. True it drains more battery and this kind of headset needs to be power charged (so easy to forget )
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Ye, but i have an x1, didnt realise that he sound comes from the speaker when you pull out the cord, its not the same with the htc hd2 only the other way, kinda bad :/
toxicstone said:
Ye, but i have an x1, didnt realise that he sound comes from the speaker when you pull out the cord, its not the same with the htc hd2 only the other way, kinda bad :/
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Interesting ! that's exactly what I want ?
and can you return to speaker mode ?

Bluetooth calling options for car?

I've read a lot about options for getting bluetooth audio in the car, and even started a thread on it. But after thinking about it more, I realized that if I was going to have bluetooth audio in the car, I might as well be able to take calls in the car, as well. I tried the Belkin adapter, and it's great for receiving music and calls, but the sound from my end on calls is disappointing. I've called people from it and also have left myself voicemails and listened to them, and it just doesn't sound very good.
Any advice on bluetooth for the car that has good call audio? Been considering maybe this GoGroove one. Also, this Kinivo doesn't look too bad.
It's a bit more expensive than those options and doesn't work with every vehicle but I just put a grom audio adapter in my honda pilot. It pretends to be a cd changer, I got the box with aux in, usb and bluetooth capability then added on the Bluetooth module and auxillary in+charging cable and it ended up being like 200 shipped. At the cheapest end you could get the box that just does bluetooth and aux for 74.99 then add on the bluetooth for 49.99 (the box comes with bluetooth capability but the actual bluetooth module is an addon). You mount the microphone where you cant it and plug the box into the back of the radio. It works well for me and everyone can hear me just fine... well everyone except my dad but he's been going deaf for years now.
flu13 said:
I've read a lot about options for getting bluetooth audio in the car, and even started a thread on it. But after thinking about it more, I realized that if I was going to have bluetooth audio in the car, I might as well be able to take calls in the car, as well. I tried the Belkin adapter, and it's great for receiving music and calls, but the sound from my end on calls is disappointing. I've called people from it and also have left myself voicemails and listened to them, and it just doesn't sound very good.
Any advice on bluetooth for the car that has good call audio? Been considering maybe this GoGroove one. Also, this Kinivo doesn't look too bad.
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Gogroove is good
diljosh said:
Gogroove is good
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Yeah? How is call quality? Do you have to turn on or pair or connect it every time you get in the car?
BOOM:
http://www.amazon.com/Kinivo-BTC450...Input/dp/B009NLTW60/ref=pd_rhf_dp_s_cp_1_2JMS
wavrunrx said:
BOOM:
http://www.amazon.com/Kinivo-BTC450...Input/dp/B009NLTW60/ref=pd_rhf_dp_s_cp_1_2JMS
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Can you elaborate? You have this one? It is one of the two I was considering. How is call quality?
i dont own it yet but am probabally going to order it on monday.
my car already has bluetooth built in, but i like the fact this adapter supports aptX, and has a built in USB port.
so anyway, i cant elaborate :/
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what is the other one you were considering ?
can you share with us ?
wavrunrx said:
i dont own it yet but am probabally going to order it on monday.
my car already has bluetooth built in, but i like the fact this adapter supports aptX, and has a built in USB port.
so anyway, i cant elaborate :/
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what is the other one you were considering ?
can you share with us ?
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I can speak for it, I own it (bought it last week)
Syncs up quick, Unlike the similar Belkin (looks better, has issues) the buttons are useful, the big center area is a giant play/pause button, it also has a foward\back button on one side. Call quality is great, have had no complaints when using it, streams music well. Very simple setup.
The only thing I don't like is the cable is permanently attached and very thin/fragile. This isn't an issue if you properly mount/set it up (IE hide it behind plastic panels)
The charger doesn't put out much, I believe around 700mA, and it does take up my one and only 12v jack meaning I can't easily use a better phone charger without hardwiring something.
wavrunrx said:
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what is the other one you were considering ?
can you share with us ?
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Links are in the OP.
Cast|el said:
The charger doesn't put out much, I believe around 700mA, and it does take up my one and only 12v jack meaning I can't easily use a better phone charger without hardwiring something.
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There's always this.
Just bought a new car 2 months ago. It has no bluetooth and I was tired of my fm adapter so I was looking for a new solution. Considered everything from 600$ full CD player replacements that had bluetooth enabled to some of the more internal installation ones around 150. Ended up going with the Kinvio off Amazon just to try it and see how well it works.
Here is what makes it 10x better then the Belkin: Autoconnect. When you turn your car on it turns on and your phone automatically connects. With the Belkin apparently you have to hit the button every time you want to connect.
I've been told the audio quality is good and while people know im on speakerphone they can hear me clearly. The audio quality for me is great, I'm not an audiophile but it certainly seems clear to me. Would definitely recommend it for the price.
I put a bluefusion unit in my truck and loved it. It plugged in behind the radio, install took about thirty minutes. It still allowed use of my steering wheel controls. It tricked the radio into thinking the Bluetooth was xm..... retails for over $200 but are for sale all over the net for $40-60.
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dzags said:
Just bought a new car 2 months ago. It has no bluetooth and I was tired of my fm adapter so I was looking for a new solution. Considered everything from 600$ full CD player replacements that had bluetooth enabled to some of the more internal installation ones around 150. Ended up going with the Kinvio off Amazon just to try it and see how well it works.
Here is what makes it 10x better then the Belkin: Autoconnect. When you turn your car on it turns on and your phone automatically connects. With the Belkin apparently you have to hit the button every time you want to connect.
I've been told the audio quality is good and while people know im on speakerphone they can hear me clearly. The audio quality for me is great, I'm not an audiophile but it certainly seems clear to me. Would definitely recommend it for the price.
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so am i correct in my thinking:
1) pair my phone with the Kinovo
2) Music (from google music) will go out TO my microsoft SYNC system VIA Line OUT FROM the Kinovo
3) Phone calls, incoming/outgoing, will go TO my microsoft SYNC system VIA bluetooth FROM the Kinovo ((instead of LINE out! so i can still take advantage of answering calls from my steering wheel and seeing names on the cars LCD etc ...)
Alright, I'm giving the Kinivo a try.

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