I, like many, was thoroughly intrigued when the Atrix was announced and all it's awesome features. However, the more I think about it, the more I will be going with the Inspire. Here is my list why, and feel free to add to it:
- Better quality in build
- Better software support
- I refuse to pay $500 for a keyboard and LCD screen
- CyanogenMod
- Unlocked Kernel
- Overclocking potential
- I do not NEED dual 1GHz w/ 1GB RAM
- Little bigger screen
- Desire HD already has a headstart in Rooting/Modding
I work for AT&T (Feel free to ask me anything pertaining to plans, phones, etc.) and will more than likely buy this phone without a contract since we get 40% of MSRP on devices. I'll just wait when/if HTC releases a dual core phone on AT&T to upgrade.
Also, I am ending my contract with T-Mobile (Although I love them) because of the Cliq XT fiasco. That is also my #1 reason to not go with Moto. Moto don't care about their upgrades, and they make it hard for the awesome devs here at XDA to continue the life of said devices.
I'd like to know if android os can take advantage of 2 cores. Same question for apps. I'd also like to see some total size comparisons between the atrix and inspire
I agree completely! I get an upgrade once a year, why not get a good device then next year see if all of these dual core devices take off. I have had two locked down android devices, and they are infuriating. I use an xperiax10(btw I am running 2.2.1), and while I love the specs of the phone it just doesn't meet expectations. I am going with the inspire, and I will have fun with it!
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I, like many, was thoroughly intrigued when the Atrix was announced and all it's awesome features. However, the more I think about it, the more I will be going with the Inspire. Here is my list why, and feel free to add to it:
- Better quality in build
- Better software support
- I refuse to pay $500 for a keyboard and LCD screen
- CyanogenMod
- Unlocked Kernel
- Overclocking potential
- I do not NEED dual 1GHz w/ 1GB RAM
- Little bigger screen
- Desire HD already has a headstart in Rooting/Modding
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My thoughts exactly. I was super stoked about the Atrix but the more things have been revealed about it I think I'll be a lot happier with the Inspire. I don't need a laptop dock or a dock for my TV/Monitor. I do want something that I'll be able to mess with, and HTC has shown a history of excellence in this regard. Also, you can't really beat the price. The ratio of dollar to build quality is pretty awesome when it comes to the Inspire, and I don't even really care if it has HSPA+ or not. I'm in an area where I regularly pull 3.5 down and 1.6 up on regular HSPA, so as long as it doesn't get any slower I'll be fine.
Really excited to get my Inspire on launch day.
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I, like many, was thoroughly intrigued when the Atrix was announced and all it's awesome features. However, the more I think about it, the more I will be going with the Inspire. Here is my list why, and feel free to add to it:
- Better quality in build
- Better software support
- I refuse to pay $500 for a keyboard and LCD screen
- CyanogenMod
- Unlocked Kernel
- Overclocking potential
- I do not NEED dual 1GHz w/ 1GB RAM
- Little bigger screen
- Desire HD already has a headstart in Rooting/Modding
I work for AT&T (Feel free to ask me anything pertaining to plans, phones, etc.) and will more than likely buy this phone without a contract since we get 40% of MSRP on devices. I'll just wait when/if HTC releases a dual core phone on AT&T to upgrade.
Also, I am ending my contract with T-Mobile (Although I love them) because of the Cliq XT fiasco. That is also my #1 reason to not go with Moto. Moto don't care about their upgrades, and they make it hard for the awesome devs here at XDA to continue the life of said devices.
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Much agreed. Going with the Inspire for same reasons. 1 question I do have is that I have yet to see anything regarding different data pricing for HSPA+. Only thing recent I've seen is the increase by 2gb's for tethering. My unlimited data is grandfathered, so im curious as to what i will be told when upgrading, however I as well will buy the Inspire outright as my upgrade isn't till Black Friday of this year =]
Oh and will these HSPA+ phones be compatible on the further developed LTE network? Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
Anyone notice how the 4 buttons on the bottom of the phone are in different order depending on the manufacture! I personally like the order the HTC uses better than Motorola.
So here is what I have to add to the list:
* HTC Sense UI with website services
* Android OS button order
* Dual LED flash
* Cheaper to buy outright and save upgrade credit for when HTC dual core, LTE, Front Camera device shows up on AT&T which I think will be by the end off the year or early 2012.
@danielsaenz so since u work for att, can u also get me the 40% off on a outright inspire? Lol, kidding aside, I'd pick HTC over Motorola all day, hardware isnt everything if your software sux, and that blur crap on motorola is garbage.
@danielsaenz it is true that for this summer at&t is planning to offer the unlimited data plan back?
I have it but I am looking to put it to my wife.
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@Torridred04
I work at a COR location (Corporate Retail Store) and unfortunately we are very limited in the info that is provided for us. We have a system called MyCSP (My Customer Support Portal) that is where we get most of our information at. Thankfully, I spoke to my area manager about this and although there is still no official word yet, he's pretty sure that you will still be grandfathered into your unlimited data. However, he does believe that the $20 tethering add-on will apply. Will keep you guys posted ASAP.
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I have no idea where you got this from, but it is extremely unlikely. Even the admired Verizon is planning to go to tiered data plans. Sprint is adding $10, and T-Mobile will more than likely soon start tiered plans too.
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@Torridred04
I work at a COR location (Corporate Retail Store) and unfortunately we are very limited in the info that is provided for us. We have a system called MyCSP (My Customer Support Portal) that is where we get most of our information at. Thankfully, I spoke to my area manager about this and although there is still no official word yet, he's pretty sure that you will still be grandfathered into your unlimited data. However, he does believe that the $20 tethering add-on will apply. Will keep you guys posted ASAP.
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Appreciate the info it really helps. I did read the engadget article on people threatening to get the VZW iphone, so they were offered unlimited data back, but i dont know how much truth goes into that. Personally, I think it is dumb to buy the iphone 4 this late, but that justs my 2 cents. Plus, my tethering doesn't get interrupted when i get a phone call =] Love my AT&T service.
Through thick and thin I feel HTC really strives in all departments. I love having a tight grip on a phone, the sturdy feeling of an HTC; I don't know who else has unibody phones but the physical feel is always the selling point for me. So what exactly can you do with a dual core phone? Maybe load an app a bit faster in the future, true gaming after some software developments but that will be a while right? I'll have to ask my friend what he thinks of moto but I think i'm set on the inspire.
HTC is the best in total quality Hardware plus Software, the are the closest to the apple scenario out of any make. There quality control and amazing sense UI improve android dont just bog it down like other UI's add that to the amazing materials used for the hardware and there is no beating it!
I pre order the htc inspire. I have being using htc for a long time now and I had to go to Galaxy S beca se. Attt doesn't have any good android for a while and now I can't wait to get one again. Simply love the quality of their phones and the Sence is awsome.
HTC is a quality Product. not saying moto isnt but i havent had any good luck with moto either.. last one died in my arms.. no reason.. *shrugs*
I appreciate the 2 cents. I feel the exact same way, I really don't think that android will utilize the dual core for at least a year maybe more. I read somewhere that Microsoft took something like 3 years on XP to fully utilize what dual core processors had to offer. I personally cannot wait for the 13th. I will be buying the inspire on launch day and selling my captivate shorty after. I think the biggest selling point is the development. I have had to rely on the different spliced together stock roms from the galaxy s and still have never experienced a ROM build from source. CAN'T WAIT!!!
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I pre order the htc inspire. I have being using htc for a long time now and I had to go to Galaxy S beca se. Attt doesn't have any good android for a while and now I can't wait to get one again. Simply love the quality of their phones and the Sence is awsome.
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Where did you pre order?
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Where did you pre order?
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Pre-ordered mine today as well. I was thinking about the Atrix, but then I remembered when I had an evo4g for a short amount of time... and how great that phone was/is.
can you get the ATT Upgrade $50 at raido shack? cause like i could give them $50 and be done with it!
how much $$ is the inspire 4g off contract ?? 449 or 499 ?
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I am currently with tmobile and ordered a Nexus One without a contract... So now I got to thinking: I like the Incredible and EVO 4G...but is it worth getting a whole new contract on Verizon (1 Or 2 Years) or Sprint (2 Years only) ? I am kind of stressed out about this -it is a headache for me, I just want to get something I will be happy with...
I had the HD2 and returned it (not enough suitable games for the hardware...so I decided to move to android)....
So I think my two most reasonible options are to:
+ Stay with Tmobile and keep my Nexus One until something else comes along compatible with TMobile USA... (I am paying about 140.00 a month w/ 3 lines unlim texting for all...and unlim data for two lines... plus 1000 minutes, and free mobile to mobile)
+OR Sign up with a 1 Year verizon contract...
(now mind you, I will be paying @ least 90 to 109$ a month for an individual plan and keep the other two phones on tmobile until their contract expires...will be about 90 a month for Tmobile after this). So all in all costs = about 190 a month to get the incredible...
I know the pros and cons of the phones pretty much:
EVO 4G:
+ 4g, 4.3" LCD screen, front facing camera (nice but I dont think I may use it much), hdmi out, better multitouch hardware than N1
Incredible:
+ OLED 3.7" screen (same as N1?),8GB onboard + 2GB micro w/ verizon, optical 'track ball' ,also better multitouch hardware than N1
N1:
+ trackball ?(a neg for me actually), nothing else above the others that I can see....
sorry if this is a stupid thread...just asking for your advices/ideas/thoughts...please help me make a decision....Thanks for your time...
any ideas?
Stay with the Nexus & no contract...I think your going to really like it's performance! If not, then you can try the others not on GSM...
Well my .02 for what it is worth would be keep the N1, the Incredible while seemingly better is a slight upgrade from the N1 imo... I heard the onboard 8GB of memory cannot be used to install applications on, and one review (Engadget) said a lot of things couldn't even see the memory... The Nexus One is a great phone, and I just got mine for AT&T; give it a go first!
But the incredible doesn't seem too hot for me, I hear VZW is going to LTE and what-not soon! However the Evo 4G does look really cool, but it is on Sprint. It seems like keeping the N1 is economically feasible and you won't be disappointed, or at least I haven't!
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Well my .02 for what it is worth would be keep the N1, the Incredible while seemingly better is a slight upgrade from the N1 imo... I heard the onboard 8GB of memory cannot be used to install applications on, and one review (Engadget) said a lot of things couldn't even see the memory... The Nexus One is a great phone, and I just got mine for AT&T; give it a go first!
But the incredible doesn't seem too hot for me, I hear VZW is going to LTE and what-not soon! However the Evo 4G does look really cool, but it is on Sprint. It seems like keeping the N1 is economically feasible and you won't be disappointed, or at least I haven't!
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Thanks for BOTH of your responses...
I do like the N1...nice sleek and small...just makes me think when I hear about the EVO 4G and the Incredible having the better multi touch...
also that 8GB would be nice to have instead of just 4GB with the n1, also VZW will be giving a 2GB memory stick with it so that is 10GB of usable storage (somewhat usable)...
I guess the N1 is a better choice since I also still have the option to upgrade my phone at any time, hopefully Tmobile will come out with some better phones than the HD2 some time soon -I am sure there will always be better phones, but its just a matter of if they will support the TMobile USA bands...otherwise I may have to switch companies...
I also like the Optical trackball...I think it would have a longer life than the actual trackball...but on the EVO I do not like the LCD screen, the AMOLED screen is much nicer...
The N1 is also the first device to receive an official upgrade to Froyo (and let me guess also future versions). For the others you have to rely on HTC.
I would get the nexus purely for its XDA support
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I would get the nexus purely for its XDA support
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Not to be insulting, but have you noticed there is A LOT of support for A LOT of phones here on XDA ??
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Not to be insulting, but have you noticed there is A LOT of support for A LOT of phones here on XDA ??
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I don't see why the HTC Desire would get LESS support than N1. The N1 has just been around a bit longer so you probably find more support but I guess this soon changes. In the end both are HTC devices and will receive equal support, probably Desire with even more support thanks to Sense UI included....
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Not to be insulting, but have you noticed there is A LOT of support for A LOT of phones here on XDA ??
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Its OK, my bad, i meant out of the devices that were listed, Xda seems to be a GSM device forum (?), i expect the desire, legend and many other GSM phones to be supported here, by default i thought that you go to the PPC website for CDMA (Please, correct me if i'm wrong, i'm in the UK so we only have GSM here )
I've been watching all the latest phones recently and see with great disappointment that every good new phone that comes on the market is available only at the US.I live in Greece and the only high-end device we got since the Desire is the Galaxy S(priced at about 650 euros).All those years good devices came out mostly here and now this!What is happening?When will we get anything like DroidX or Evo 4G?Right now I feel very disappointed...
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Seriously? The HD2 was in Europe first, the Dell Streak is not avail here...you guys get all the stuff first.
Evo is 4g and CDMA...no one else in world has 4g or CDMA I am pretty sure.
Yep, usually the States are last on the release list. But recently there's been a flurry of new device activity
I don't want good devices to come here without coming there,I just think that it'd be better that good phones came to both continents instead of only to one.And I know that the Evo is 4G and CDMA,but there could be a non-4G GSM version for Europe.And what about DroidX?Will we have to stay with the Milestone,the Desire and the HD2?They are really good phones but why not have better when we can?
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I am in the UK and we do got a lot of stuff before the USA but i would say there seems to be a difference in prices sometimes, especially Microsoft they seem to hike up the price in the UK Windows vista and windows 7 for example
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Yep, usually the States are last on the release list. But recently there's been a flurry of new device activity
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Lol!
Usually México is the last buddy...
I wish we receive the releases like in the US
I don't know what you are talking about beacuse the desire looks really good...
I beleive Asia gets them a full year before we do. Then what ever doesn't sell in Japan gets sent to the US and Euro. Then they slap an ATT or Tmo sticker on it and call it the latest and greatest! BTW did you konw your phone was RnD'd for a 13 year old japaneese girl. Turns out they are the most influential users for cell phones. By the numbers japaneese school girls use more cell phones then wall street businessman. Thats why cell mnf.'s test their phones with little girls and not grown adults.
Well,as for Desire being a very good phone I don't say otherwise,I might as well buy one.It's just that there aren't many options available for high-end end devices which is a little bit discouraging.Why don't we get devices like the Evo or the DroidX even now?I don't complain because we didn't get the best devices first,but because we didn't get them at all and I haven't heard any clues or rumors that they will come here.
UK Phones are always better than our US phones lol
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I've been watching all the latest phones recently and see with great disappointment that every good new phone that comes on the market is available only at the US.I live in Greece and the only high-end device we got since the Desire is the Galaxy S(priced at about 650 euros).All those years good devices came out mostly here and now this!What is happening?When will we get anything like DroidX or Evo 4G?Right now I feel very disappointed...
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I have a bunch of friends living in Greece...and the have the same problem you have... There like "gamiseta"..lol they are just waiting now to see if and when any new phones come out
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I have a bunch of friends living in Greece...and the have the same problem you have... There like "gamiseta"..lol they are just waiting now to see if and when any new phones come out
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By the way "gamise ta"(not gamiseta,it's two words) means "**** it" or something like that!Sorry about the vocabulary,but as we cannot get good phones I thought about giving some language lessons!
Anyway,about the whole situation now...Things have been messed up.I wanted to buy a Desire but had no spare money,so I postponed it.Now that I have the money I see all the newer phones and think that,hell,will I get the Desire?I do like it,it's way cooler and better than my Hero,but new phones have 4.3" screens,8 MPx cameras,HD videos etc...Especially when talking about such non-HTC phones,Samsung's Hummingbird and Texas Instruments' OMAP processors are better than Qualcomm's Snapdragon,and mostly in the GPU part(I do love Sense however and don't know if I can have anything else for everyday use...).So what do I do?Buy the Desire and live on wanting something better or wait with the hope that something better will be available in Europe shortly?I am really confused...
And by the way,don't you think that 640 euros for the Galaxy S is a little bit too much?
Really it just depends on your carrier and thier contracts with HTC, samsung, etc... If they are willing to pay for an exclusive deal then they can have their own phone for a set time limit. If not then they are sold to all the carriers with different brands. Tmo went for the HD2 as their flagship phone, ATT went iphoney, Sprint went Evo4, Verizon is going Droid X, METROPCS went RAZR. lol, funny thing is aside from the iphone they are all the same phone with minor modifications.
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Really it just depends on your carrier and thier contracts with HTC, samsung, etc... If they are willing to pay for an exclusive deal then they can have their own phone for a set time limit. If not then they are sold to all the carriers with different brands. Tmo went for the HD2 as their flagship phone, ATT went iphoney, Sprint went Evo4, Verizon is going Droid X, METROPCS went RAZR. lol, funny thing is aside from the iphone they are all the same phone with minor modifications.
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They are in no way the same phone except for the Evo and the HD2.The Droid X uses Texas Instruments' OMAP processor which is better than the Snapdragon.Anyway,I am starting to think about buying the Galaxy S.It's probably the best one around here.I will miss Sense,but I give far too much emphasis on my hardware and Samsung's Hummingbird is just AWESOME!I love Sense however...Don't ask why,I just love it!Do you think there will be a port available for the Galaxy S?
All the good phones are CDMA recently. What's up with that?
i would love to have the desire or galaxy s right now!
Well,right now I am between the Galaxy S and the Desire.Would buy a GSM variant of the Droid X if it came out but I don't think anything like this will happen anytime soon...I just hate it how phone companies don't give us any of the new phones!
By the way,for the Droid X...Wouldn't it be much better with some custom interface like Sense?In a phone this powerful the UI cannot reduce performane enough for us to notice.And I just HATE vanilla...!
Amazon Germany is selling the Galaxy S for 455€, incl. VAT. Even with s&h, it should not cost more than 470€ anywhere in the Euro-Area.
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Amazon Germany is selling the Galaxy S for 455€, incl. VAT. Even with s&h, it should not cost more than 470€ anywhere in the Euro-Area.
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Well this is upseting...The lowest price I found was somewhere a little below 600€ and it was from a store I had never heard of,which therefore I don't know whether I can trust or not.Except for the case that it is not yet officially released in Greece and what I found was just some pieces brought from other countries.And now that I think of it it's not that insane as no major store has it yet.Maybe the price will drop with the official release!
I agree! I'm dying to get something like Evo or Droid X but GSM compatible! There's nothing even near them! 4.3 Inch display, 8 MPixel video & HDMI out!!! What do we have? Desire? It even can't handle a simple D1 video recording! Can't run Asphalt smoothly!!! The best we can get is Galaxy S which is so iPhony! No LED flash? Just to release it with flash for Sprint!!! I'm sick of it!!!
There's nothing on upcoming list of GSM phones, just check GSMArena! It's way too obsolete these days...
I mean, we would get Infuse 4G in this spring. However that is not Galaxy S 2, just overclocked Captivate with better screen. Rumors confirmed that new Galaxy S series will come with Orion processor that is duelcore hummingbird. I know android OS and apps are not optimized to duel core so it could be useless battery hog until it get honeycomb.
But most concerning point is Infuse 4G will come with froyo and take time forever to get gingerbread, it is really dealbeaker. Also Infuse 4G will have no international brother like i9000 which is our ROM source.
Should I end up contract to AT&T and move on other carrier?
Given Galaxy S2 is still under tight wrap waiting to be announced at MWC, it is too early to talk about whether or not AT&T will get it.
Officially, Galaxy S2 does not even exit. So how do you know AT&T won't get it.
So far, the only Android OS I saw that mentioned dual-core support is HoneyComb (3.0) which is only for tablet. Gingerbread does not support dual core. So, having a dual core phone right now is quite useless, the other half will just stay unused.
Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.
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Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.
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T-mobile sucks in this area...so that really isn't a good alternative IMHO...and I have absolutely no idea what you are saying about the fragmentation..There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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Truer words have never been spoken.
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There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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QF the muther******* T!
there are rumors of the nexus s coming for at&t.
engadget dot com/2011/01/27/nexus-s-coming-in-a-new-atandt-flavor/
and at&t itself has said that this year they'll be bringing a lot of top end android phones (not gimping them to make iphone look superior). a good side-effect of them losing iphone exclusivity.
i'd wait for feb14-17 for the mobile world conference to get a better idea of which phones are coming.
Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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I'm with you on that. Samsuck is dead to me. As soon as the Atrix or Optimus 2X hits AT&T I'm ditching my Captivate immediately.
I would like to leave AT&T too, but where I live, they have the best 3G speeds. With HSDPA/HSUPA enabled I get 2Mb down/1.5 Mb up. Verizon here cant touch that. Everybody at work has VZW and they get about 700kb up and down.
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Here, here!
Unless it's the Nexus S, don't buy a Samsung anything. You'll regret it.
A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
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Very Good Phone
im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.
This will be my last Samsung as well. Thankfully Andromeda 1.0 makes it a usable phone to get me through this contract.
Yeah, the GPS leaves a lot to be desired. I've managed to finally get a ROM/Kernel/Modem combination that is stable, and can keep a GPS lock.
The only other Samsung phone I had prior to this was the WinMo Blackjack. Back then I didn't know enough about smartphones to be aware that it was horrible.
But, hey, I got my Captivate for free. Christmas present from my girlfriend, and she only paid $70 for the phone, screen protector, and 16 gig microSD card. So, I can't complain too much.
I am grateful to the Captivate, though. Without it, I wouldn't have learned about Android, and what true customization is all about.
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A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
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Honestly not hating on you dude, but you should buy an IPhone. If you want something that works out of the box and you don't have to mess with that's the way to go. EVERY Android handset out there requires tweaking to some degree or another. And every other manufacturer has their own issues.
Samsung has a bit of a track record of not updating and now the GPS issues. But Motorola gets you a locked boot loader. LG currently doesn't have a real competitor in the US yet. HTC just took the EVO and rebadged it for Verizon and AT&T, not to mention the Desire HD for the rest of the world.
I'm not overly thrilled with the Captivate. It's a great phone, but the lack of support from Samsung (cmon, at&t may have it's faults but they have little to do with the lack of an update or support, they just sell phones, my opinion of course.) The biggest issue for me is GPS. I do have a standalone unit for trips and such but I really like having a phone that can get me from A to B easily. I don't carry my GPS everywhere, I do carry my phone.
Would I buy another Samsung Device?? Maybe. I'd certainly wait a few weeks after it was released to see what the main issues are. As far as software, I don't care. I flash ROM's more than I change my...... Well you get my point.
if att gets the galaxy 2? it will hit in the fall of course,they will milk the atrix ,infuse and the htc dealio for all they are worth. sad reaalllymost likely increase data charges for no reason than renaming their 3g network....sounds like the goverment at work here, we need bigger goverment to counteract this maddddnesss
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im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.
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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.
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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.
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Agreed. Before I got my Captivate, I was expecting the same Cydia/Installer combo to show up a couple minutes after I got it.
Honestly, Market serves as an undermined Cydia, but iPhone does have the better dev base by a landslide and that's why it's more popular, at least for devs and the like.
If Captivate had the dev base iPhone does, I wouldn't need anything else. Then again, I don't think anyone else would, either.
Hi all,
Wife is due for an upgrade and knows basically zilch about phones. Its down to the D3 and the Tbolt. We do NOT live in a LTE zone yet but rumor is it will be deploying next summer out here. She likes the Tbolt screen but isn't thrilled with no keyboard. However it is $.01 on Amazon right now and that is pretty hard to beat especially for a 4G phone with over 512 ram and HTC build quality.
So if you guys/gals had to pick a phone RIGHT NOW out of Verizon's lineup, would the Tbolt still be it? I know I ask this on a biased forum lol. Anyway, she has left it up to me to pick the phone and at the expense of sounding like a cheap husband... the price alone has me leaning strongly towards it. The Revolution is automatically out being a LG product and the specs suck anyway, Charge has a great screen but terrible amount of RAM, D3 is not 4G but the keyobard is effing sweet (pentile screen tho)... DX2 felt slower to me than my old DX (plus pentile sucks again) so that is out.
Oh, we are both grandfathered into unlimited data so getting a LTE phone is pretty enticing. Speaking of that, when LTE does deploy out here... bye bye Comcast rofl. I may just keep my boost flashed Epic for the foreseeable future as my primary phone for unlimted calling and buy a beat up Tbolt on ebay used on my primary line to hotspot our house for literally 2-3x as fast internet as stupid Comcast which is the only half decent provider out here. Verizon refuses to deploy fios out here for some insane reason...
Why not check out the Bionic on the 8th?
It will most likely cost $300 with a new contract and it is 4G of course, but its supposed to be very nice. There is a video on YouTube of someone playing with a Bionic and the new Blur looks really awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqnb4DhNF90
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Hi all,
Wife is due for an upgrade and knows basically zilch about phones. Its down to the D3 and the Tbolt. We do NOT live in a LTE zone yet but rumor is it will be deploying next summer out here. She likes the Tbolt screen but isn't thrilled with no keyboard. However it is $.01 on Amazon right now and that is pretty hard to beat especially for a 4G phone with over 512 ram and HTC build quality.
So if you guys/gals had to pick a phone RIGHT NOW out of Verizon's lineup, would the Tbolt still be it? I know I ask this on a biased forum lol. Anyway, she has left it up to me to pick the phone and at the expense of sounding like a cheap husband... the price alone has me leaning strongly towards it. The Revolution is automatically out being a LG product and the specs suck anyway, Charge has a great screen but terrible amount of RAM, D3 is not 4G but the keyobard is effing sweet (pentile screen tho)... DX2 felt slower to me than my old DX (plus pentile sucks again) so that is out.
Oh, we are both grandfathered into unlimited data so getting a LTE phone is pretty enticing. Speaking of that, when LTE does deploy out here... bye bye Comcast rofl. I may just keep my boost flashed Epic for the foreseeable future as my primary phone for unlimted calling and buy a beat up Tbolt on ebay used on my primary line to hotspot our house for literally 2-3x as fast internet as stupid Comcast which is the only half decent provider out here. Verizon refuses to deploy fios out here for some insane reason...
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I would never rely on mobile data for home Internet. As long as you don't need reliable service I guess it's an option. Clearwater was good until the network got full due to the evo. Friend as a lte hotspot as their only Internet and they say it sucks, constantly drops signal.
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I would never rely on mobile data for home Internet. As long as you don't need reliable service I guess it's an option. Clearwater was good until the network got full due to the evo. Friend as a lte hotspot as their only Internet and they say it sucks, constantly drops signal.
I agree
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Why not check out the Bionic on the 8th?
It will most likely cost $300 with a new contract and it is 4G of course, but its supposed to be very nice. There is a video on YouTube of someone playing with a Bionic and the new Blur looks really awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqnb4DhNF90
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because you are comparing a 300 difference for getting basically the same thing. can you say no brainer?
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I would never rely on mobile data for home Internet. As long as you don't need reliable service I guess it's an option. Clearwater was good until the network got full due to the evo. Friend as a lte hotspot as their only Internet and they say it sucks, constantly drops signal.
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couldnt agree more.
If I had to buy right now, I'd check out the Revolution and Charge, but probably go with the Thunderbolt again (especially if I was paying and it was only $0.01!). The Bionic looks nice I guess, but honestly the performance of the Tbolt leaves little to be desired for me, and I really can't see the Bionic being $300 better. The only other thing I'd want out of the TB is a physical keyboard, but unfortunately there isn't a 4G verizon phone with one yet (or on the immediate horizon that I know of).
Yes, I would still get the TB again. You are not going to get near the features on any other phone for the price. One penny. You are going to sign up and get a 2 year contract anyway.. why spend $200 - $300 extra for not that much more if at all? Besides, is your wife going to be a power user and require root, etc? Doubtful. I think she will get used to the key board, especially for the price.
I can say it .. "no brainer".
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Yes, I would still get the TB again. You are not going to get near the features on any other phone for the price. One penny. You are going to sign up and get a 2 year contract anyway.. why spend $200 - $300 extra for not that much more if at all? Besides, is your wife going to be a power user and require root, etc? Doubtful. I think she will get used to the key board, especially for the price.
I can say it .. "no brainer".
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Revolution has very little dev support.
Droid charge seems very laggy and IMHO I hate the look of it.
Droid bionic will almost certainly come with an encrypted bootloader.
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If I had to buy right now, I'd check out the Revolution and Charge, but probably go with the Thunderbolt again (especially if I was paying and it was only $0.01!). The Bionic looks nice I guess, but honestly the performance of the Tbolt leaves little to be desired for me, and I really can't see the Bionic being $300 better. The only other thing I'd want out of the TB is a physical keyboard, but unfortunately there isn't a 4G verizon phone with one yet (or on the immediate horizon that I know of).
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Hot Carl said:
Yes, I would still get the TB again. You are not going to get near the features on any other phone for the price. One penny. You are going to sign up and get a 2 year contract anyway.. why spend $200 - $300 extra for not that much more if at all? Besides, is your wife going to be a power user and require root, etc? Doubtful. I think she will get used to the key board, especially for the price.
I can say it .. "no brainer".
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DRainyDay said:
+1
Revolution has very little dev support.
Droid charge seems very laggy and IMHO I hate the look of it.
Droid bionic will almost certainly come with an encrypted bootloader.
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but honestly the performance of the Tbolt leaves little to be desired for me (or on the immediate horizon that I know of).
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I am confused when I hear people say this.. I am rooted and use cyanogen.. But even the stock rom performs good as far as I am concerned. Are you talking reception or speed of running apps?
Re-read his post. The performance "leaves little to be desired" meaning that it's perfectly good.
Saying this phone is out dated is false. Name a phone on Verizon with ask the same features and currently out. Most of the complainers will complain regardless of phone because they have the want of a phone hacker but not the knowledge or will to make the phone do want they think it should. That and well, some people are just never happy because they don't realize the phone they have is really more of a computer that also happens to make calls. i'm sure everyone knows someone they its never happy with their PC either
also, the phone isn't Jesus--it doesn't perform miracles and it doesn't rise from the dead if you kill it
I would again go with the TB but the Droid 3 is tempting for me since it does have the slide out keyboard. I came from the Droid 2 to the TB because I wanted to be locked into 4G before it was capped (Which I did successfully). Now that I have used 4G, there is no looking back but when a 4G phone with a slide out keyboard is released I will be all over that. Until then, I will stick with the TB as others have stated the speed is incredible. I use the debloated stock ROM and have no problems what so ever. Don't even need to OC it, it is that good.
The big question is what do you need your phone to do. While the Bionic will be newer, and may have some new features, are those features worth $300. Most phones out now are perfectly capable, especially the Tbolt. If you don't game, or need the biggest %#$, the Tbolt is a great phone. It comes down to UI, which one do you like the best? I prefer sense, hence, I stick with HTC.
I would buy a D3 for her. I'm sure she's just going to text a lot so the physical keyboard is a plus and I doubt your wife will care about the screen size that much. Also are you gonna root it too? I think the D3's stock Tom is a lot smoother then the Tbolt.
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The big question is what do you need your phone to do. While the Bionic will be newer, and may have some new features, are those features worth $300. Most phones out now are perfectly capable, especially the Tbolt. If you don't game, or need the biggest %#$, the Tbolt is a great phone. It comes down to UI, which one do you like the best? I prefer sense, hence, I stick with HTC.
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If I had to buy right now, I'd check out the Revolution and Charge, but probably go with the Thunderbolt again (especially if I was paying and it was only $0.01!). The Bionic looks nice I guess, but honestly the performance of the Tbolt leaves little to be desired for me, and I really can't see the Bionic being $300 better. The only other thing I'd want out of the TB is a physical keyboard, but unfortunately there isn't a 4G verizon phone with one yet (or on the immediate horizon that I know of).
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samsung has a keyboard slider lte device on the horizon. Not sure of all the specs though.
Are you sure it is .01 for an upgrade. I thought that was only for new customers. I am see $119.99 for upgrade.
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Be aware the getting a phone from Amazon.com (or Wirefly or Costco or.....) involves an additional ETF if you change your plan.
This isn't a bad thing as long as you're aware of it, just be sure you read the terms carefully and understand them before signing.
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Be aware the getting a phone from Amazon.com (or Wirefly or Costco or.....) involves an additional ETF if you change your plan.
This isn't a bad thing as long as you're aware of it, just be sure you read the terms carefully and understand them before signing.
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I didn't think Costco did that. Also, Amazon's terms are less restrictive than wirefly.
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Hey everyone,
My contract with AT&T just expired and I may switch to Verizon to go for the Galaxy Nexus or Razor Maxx. However, I like the Galaxy SII that AT&T only offers. I currently have a Captivate and love it. I just want to know if anyone has any opinions on the SGSII or Nexus. Thanks
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Hey everyone,
My contract with AT&T just expired and I may switch to Verizon to go for the Galaxy Nexus or Razor Maxx. However, I like the Galaxy SII that AT&T only offers. I currently have a Captivate and love it. I just want to know if anyone has any opinions on the SGSII or Nexus. Thanks
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I still have my captivate but it just collects dust after getting my att sgs2. I'm pretty unsure why you would even have to consider upgrading to a phone that is 100 times better then the captivate.
Well the Captivate was the first Android I had and it's so versatile. And I see developers are porting ICS for it. But I can't argue with the power and awesomeness of the SGS2
if I were you I would try an ics ROM. I would recommend docs Master ics (v3.1)
My cappy is blazing fast. I'm talking 0 lag!
MC 3 runs completely smooth with not a hint of stutter or lag. That's with no over clocking! When I oc/live oc it with nstools, I can get it up to 1500mghz.
Run it for a while and wait for the sgs 3.
Hope this helps you on your decision.
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I'm loving ICS and the anker battery on the cappy, it changed my decision on wanting to upgrade now. My upgrade was eligible last Oct, but I holding out till summer when all the quad-cores come out (I HOPE!!).
Yea, I guess waiting is always an option, especially if more powerful phones are still to come! I'll look more into ICS and see what I can do, I'm on Serendipity 7 right now and it's pretty laggy, at least for me.
I went from a Captivate running S7 to a SGSII. To say the SGSII blows away the Captivate is an understatement. I have felt zero need to even root the phone yet. It is great out of the box. Fast, stable, great battery life. Not one force close since I got it 6-7 weeks ago FYI, still running 2.3.4 Gingerbread. If you get one, don't update to 2.3.6. It has battery drain issues.
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FC out of the box was never an issue. Why anyone would buy a new phone that is only running GB is beyond me. If I was in a position to switch carriers I'd go with the Nexus, you're getting the good stuff that everyone else is just trying to catch up to.
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FC out of the box was never an issue. Why anyone would buy a new phone that is only running GB is beyond me. If I was in a position to switch carriers I'd go with the Nexus, you're getting the good stuff that everyone else is just trying to catch up to.
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Well isn't the sgs2 slated for an ICS upgrade? I know Samsung said that the captivate won't get ICS. And we all know how much of an ordeal it was just to get froyo, let alone gingerbread on it, so it'll probably be the same way for the sgs2, but it has better specs than the Nexus
If I were you I would upgrade in a heart beat. Hardware-wise the Captivate just can't compete with the dual-cores phone you mentioned. And the battery from the Maxx is a beast!
Keep in mind that AT&T is now charging doubled the upgrade fee (from $18 to $36). Switching to Verzion can easily get you free activation + free shipping via some online retailer in addition to their "Twice the data, same low price" data promo, which is quite a deal unless you got grandfathered with AT&T previous data plan.
I also loved the Galaxy S II, only downside is no 4G LTE with the exception of the Skyrocket. Rumor has it that Skyrocket HD is coming to AT&T, with a full 720p Super AMOLED screen upgrade from a 480x800. You might want to wait on that.
Just my two cents.
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I still have my captivate but it just collects dust after getting my att sgs2. I'm pretty unsure why you would even have to consider upgrading to a phone that is 100 times better then the captivate.
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What he said
I still love my C(r)aptivate. I loathed it something aweful because of the utterly fail GPS, but all-in-all it's still a fantastic phone. Seeing that I have the LG Thrill as my main phone(I use nav a lot and needed better gps or i wouldn't have) which just came out and is still on FROYO and a phone that came out last July already has Gingerbread...It's nice to know that it is still supported. A lot is to be said about not having a contract being held over your head too. Personally if I were you I would keep the Captivate and leave my options open. Some awesome phones will be coming out Q3 this year. I'm looking forward to the Tegra 3 powered HTC Endeavor. Bide your time and know you can jump ship to another carrier any time you choose. IMHO
Yea, the GPS was a huge fail, I actually sent back my first one because apparently the first manufactured devices were "defective" but even after I got a new one my GPS didn't improve much. The captivate is under powered, but it sounds like some pretty awesome phones are in the works and not having a contract allows for some breathing room. I guess I'll just see which carrier releases the most desirable phone in the next few months or so and go from there.
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I have felt zero need to even root the phone yet. It is great out of the box. Fast, stable, great battery life. Not one force close since I got it 6-7 weeks ago FYI, still running 2.3.4 Gingerbread.
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Really? No interests in customization? Cuz rooting the phone for reasons you listed is a rather poor use of root access... No such thing as "good" stock!
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The captivate is under powered,
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No it's not, if anything call it "outdated." The device is getting close to two years old! When it came out no one was honestly considering a PHONE having a dual-core CPU. In all honesty they don't need it! Quad-core is just ridicules... The ICS ROMs we have now show that the phone is by no means under powered.
As to the other idea, all I can say is that AT&T seems to be getting more and more greedy, their practices more sleazy... Or at least being faster to jump on ways to improve profits and reduce costs, of which we the customers are seeing no benefits...
leaked from my ICS- FUSED SGS I897 contaminating you via XDA app.
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leaked[/I] from my ICS- FUSED SGS I897 contaminating you via XDA app.
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Improve profits and reduce costs as in raise rates and reduce services. Or Promise a technology, then abandon it before fruition. I liked the falsely advertising a technology ploy. I've been with this phone service since it was Cingular, which in my opinion was a far better company. It's been getting harder and harder to renew my contract. I find myself peering over the fence to see how green the grass is on the other side.
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Improve profits and reduce costs as in raise rates and reduce services. Or Promise a technology, then abandon it before fruition. I liked the falsely advertising a technology ploy. I've been with this phone service since it was Cingular, which in my opinion was a far better company. It's been getting harder and harder to renew my contract. I find myself peering over the fence to see how green the grass is on the other side.
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I know what you mean here... I've been with them since Cingular as well and I know the prices will go up over time, but their service hasn't improved one bit. One big bonus of Verizon is the coverage they have nationwide is FAR superior to AT&T's. When you have to sell a Microcell to imporve coverage in your customer's houses, you know you need to upgrade your service. Verizon will probably end up having the better LTE network too, as AT&T never went nationwide 3G, as Verizon did looong ago
I'm switching to Verizon as well in March. Why? Att and their throttling madness .I get throttle every month right around the 2gb mark 2 weeks into my billing cycle after that data is unusable. I just sold my Sgs2 skyrocket yesterday using the captivate until my contract is over .
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I got the captivate the second day the phone came out, so I have the phone with all the problems. I ALMOST upgraded to the SGS2, until teamhacksung's ICS rom came out. It runs so smoothly that it actually makes my captivate usable! I would suggest waiting for the SGS3; thats what I am doing. Why buy a phone that has been out for a long time (SGS2) when the upgrade is just around the corner!
No matter how good these ROMs get, it is impossible to fix my terrible GPS, connection dropping issues, battery drains, and random crashes.
I just read an article about the throttling and how inconsistent it is at various data limits. I just can't believe they get away with it. It just shows how inferior their network is to Verizon if Verizon can handle it smoothly. Yea the SGS3 is worth waiting for. I think I'm gonna try ICS on my Captivate for now and hopefully that will hold me long enough. I just hate that it doesn't have a front facing camera.
Cappy still rules!
1. On stock ROMs - they don't cut it. XDA matured to fix all bugs and shortcomings of manufacturer ROM.
2. May be skip AT&T upgrade alltogether? See what they did to GSII Skyrocket and Note? Bastardized and downgraded to Snapdragon old chip.
3. Get GSII from ebay, may be? It is around 500 now.