Turn on phone by pressing the Windows button? - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there,
is there a way to turn my display on by pressing the windows button and not the power button?

I think unless you have a physical button (I don't, Samsung focus user here) it would be pressed over and over and over in your pocket. Doesn't sound good to me lol.
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LG Optimus 7 here.. it's a real button

freaksey said:
LG Optimus 7 here.. it's a real button
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I was wondering that, too :/
I suppose it's determined by a registry key, btw.

My Omnia 7 does that by default, but it probably wouldn't work with a capative button.

only registerykey which makes any sense is
[HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\KBD\WakeUpSources] = 23.
I think KBD means something like keyboard but i have no glue. Can someone who knows a bit more of the WP7 registry check if this entry has anything to do with wake up?
(I'm not even able to change the value of this regkey, it switches back to 23 every time I close regedit)

freaksey said:
only registerykey which makes any sense is
[HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\KBD\WakeUpSources] = 23.
I think KBD means something like keyboard but i have no glue. Can someone who knows a bit more of the WP7 registry check if this entry has anything to do with wake up?
(I'm not even able to change the value of this regkey)
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Yes, KBD means Keyboard for sure...
Needs testing and (maybe, I'm not sure this helps) some HTC or Samsung user posting their key value :/

My Value of this key is 23 (0x17). My phone is a HTC Mozart 7.
I thought about messing with this value for testing. I should get the device out of standby by connecting power. Anyway, feels not quite right do change this

I have HTC HD7 and even in my phone the Value of this key is 23 (0x17).

whynot2007 said:
I have HTC HD7 and even in my phone the Value of this key is 23 (0x17).
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I'd assume this is either the keycode for the power-key or some kind of route to a eventlistener or smth? The naming WakeUpSources seems to indicate this is not a reference to a single button, or am I wrong?

whynot2007 said:
I have HTC HD7 and even in my phone the Value of this key is 23 (0x17).
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are you able to change the regvalue? I'm not. It seems to be some kind of write-protected on my LG.

If it's Julien's registry editor and unless it's been changed recently you'll find that the method he's using for LGs only persist writes in certain areas of the registry. If you're using the MFG app, those keys might be further locked down.
Regarding multiple values, they'd have to be coded as an integer since it's a dword value. Seems unnecessarily tricky for key codes.
Oh, and the value on my Optimus 7 is 7.

Values of 7 and 23 can be flag - multiple values coded in one.
If it's really a flag then messing with it may lead to funny results.
The more I think about this the more I think this value could be a BusIO port number where any given sensor (like a button) may fire a signal.
To sum up, I don't think you'd be able to change the key for waking the phone up with a decent amount of effort.

first test would be to set this to some other value and check if it's really the wakeup key.
I tried to do it with MFG but there I get a Value of 1928312392 or something and not 23.

freaksey said:
first test would be to set this to some other value and check if it's really the wakeup key.
I tried to do it with MFG but there I get a Value of 1928312392 or something and not 23.
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72EFB648 as a hex value doesn't look very prommising in understanding what this might be (at least for me)
I'll play around with my value if I got a spare minute.

the_Crispy said:
72EFB648 as a hex value doesn't look very prommising in understanding what this might be (at least for me)
I'll play around with my value if I got a spare minute.
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I were in the wrong Rootpath.
I changed 23 to 10. Rebooted. And checked if the Value is still 10 in the reg and then tried if it makes any difference.
No it doesn't. I can still unlock with the power button
This seems to be not the value we are looking for.

Camera Button
I completely agree with trying to find another button for power. I personally hate the power button on my HD7, but it also has sensor buttons not actual buttons. What would be better for everyone, because it is the same for every device would be waking up with the Camera Button. This button already is able to automatically wake the device directly to the camera app. You need to press and hold he camera button for this. What would be great is if you just press the button and release and it would just wake to the lock screen. I hope somebody would like to work further on this and make it a reality.

Hardware Keyboard
freaksey said:
only registerykey which makes any sense is
[HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\KBD\WakeUpSources] = 23.
I think KBD means something like keyboard but i have no glue. Can someone who knows a bit more of the WP7 registry check if this entry has anything to do with wake up?
(I'm not even able to change the value of this regkey, it switches back to 23 every time I close regedit)
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Hi all
This looks like a registry key that has been included for devices with a hardware keyboard, such as the HTC 7 Pro. Perhaps somebody with such a device could test for us.
I remember in WM6.5 there was a registry key that enabled/disabled wake up on hardware keyboard extension.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

Are there any Omnia 7 users reading this? Omnia 7 has this working so that if you have either the proximity or the light sensor blocked (or both of course, you can try it with your finger, all this was pointed out in some other topic I can't find at this very second), the Start button won't act as lock key, but if the both sensors are "free", then the Start button will unlock the phone (lit the screen, you still have to swipe it).
Well invented by Samsung, as this prevents the screen turning on all the time in your pocket and eating the battery - unnoticeably to the user - that way. This would also explain the connection to sensors the_Crispy mentioned.

Its been a while now. Did anyone made any progress?

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Single press device Lock

Folks, any idea how to switch off the screen / lock the keyboard without the need of double press the red power button?
This is kind of bothering cause when you're in a application and need quickly to put your Treo into your pocket, you need to press 1st to get to the home-screen and 2nd to switch off.
Yeah, seems to be something new with the 750 (no other treo before did this). Palm set this up purposely, so I wouldn't assume there's a workaround for it. You'll get used to double clicking
Not that I know
I have used it for ages and found many shortcuts but no "quick lock".
Sorry
How about getting an application that device locks your phone upon return from standby? I use BatteryStatus Today Plugin by Chi Tai Dang.. This plugin has the option to lock device on wakeup and set cpu speed(I use this a lot)..
But mine's a wizard, what do I know about Treo.. but what I do now is, press the power button to get the phone to go into standby and when I want to use it again, I press the power button and it will device lock upon wake up.
I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
V
vijay555 said:
I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
V
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"Device lock" that you may know of isn't used on Treo's. Palm uses their own "keyguard," which uses the red END button as a power button when not on the phone. If you are on the today screen, one click will shut the device off. However, if you are in another program, the first tap brings you to the today screen, and the second click turns the screen off (and the keyguard on if you have selected it to be that way). On all other treo's, WM or POS, one click of the end button would shut the screen off (unless you were on the phone obviously, it would be the END function), regardless of what program you were in. Palm changed this, I assume, to be like most cell phones, where when you press the END key it returns to the home screen, regardless of what you were doing. Like a RAZR would do.
Thats the best way I can explain it. You would be surprised Vijay on how many customizations Palm made to the OS.
Yes, I've heard that they did - thank Goodness one of the OEMs finally saw fit to do something original.
Hmm.. from what you describe, clicking twice doesn't seem like a very big chore... I did something similar in VJOkButt. Is it really necessary to convert the 2 clicks to 1 click? Investigating it barely seems worth the effort
V
I agree, hence my original post.
When you are on the today screen, it works normally. And you can double-click quite rapidly and it will work. Not a big deal for me.
yes guys, its not that dramatical, but still, it would be an improvement also considering that I want to stay in that one application (a note which I'm editing) and want to get there after waking up the device again without the need of again starting application, look for the last note, opening etc...
with HTC hermes and others the power button works exactly like this and its even better.
Hi all,
If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
But you need an odd-shaped hand to do that one handed!
It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.
mackangus said:
If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
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On my device, that method doesn't close the app. It just locks the keyboard and then powers off. When I power on again, the app is still running and on screen. I think that's what fire00 was looking for.
pjcace said:
It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.
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Sorry PJC ACE, my mis-type - using option + red button powers the device off WITHOUT closing the app - just like the power button on the Wizard ;-)
My apologies!
GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))
fire00 said:
GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))
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Option (hold)+Red Phone button is a nice alternative, but I'd really like to find a way to prevent the Red Phone from reverting to the Today screen, so I can power off directly with it with one press...Vodafone's excuse for specifically asking for it this way (every other phone's "End" button brings you back to the "home" screen) is ridiculous, these aren't like every other phone.
I installed HTC home plugin and now my red button wont let me go into standby. I uninstalled and still not working. Any ideas?
Side Button + Suspend
There is a thread at TreoCentral that explaines how to activate the side button and make it available for button assignment in the settings screen.
Second there is a small program called suspend.
I have mapped the 1 press of the side button to suspend and away we go.
1 - Click keyguards/screen off.
Also it resume in the place or program you left when you unlock it.
Regards

I need a good key lock program

Can anyone recommend a good key lock program? Right now i am using the one included with Smarttoolkit but i find the back light still comes on too frequent when some buttons are touched while in my pockets. I think it is killing my battery time.
Thanks
autokeylock or maybe it's "auto key lock"
pretty sure it's one word. search the forum for it. just do your reading because you may need to adjust your registry setting as it tends to set your display timeout to 7 seconds. Works fine after you regedit that oddity out.
It's free too.
It's also available in most WM6 ROMs.
Exitao said:
autokeylock or maybe it's "auto key lock"
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<shamelessplug>Correct would be Automatic Keylock</shamelessplug>
pretty sure it's one word. search the forum for it. just do your reading because you may need to adjust your registry setting as it tends to set your display timeout to 7 seconds. Works fine after you regedit that oddity out.
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If something like that happens, it's inside Windows Mobile. Automatic Keylock does _not_ touch the display timeout.
maniac103 said:
<shamelessplug>Correct would be Automatic Keylock</shamelessplug>
If something like that happens, it's inside Windows Mobile. Automatic Keylock does _not_ touch the display timeout.
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It seems to have something to do with the registry holding the the non-keylock settings and the keylock settings.
It's this key:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Power\LockLevel]
Quite e few threads/posts with people crying because their screen times out too fast (7secs). Changing the value to "0" fixes it.
I wondered if it had something to do with some keys being in hex and others in binary.... So if a hex/binary/decimal value is entered into a binary/decimal/hex key, it sets the wrong timeout.
I often see people post the same registry keys and the values are not in the same entry system (how do I express this thought?). Of course this is with all kinds of things, not just the above registry key.
I have a real mishmash in my audiogain keys. some are hex, e.g. C7, some are plane decimal values and some are binary. Makes it difficult to tweak when it's not obvious what you're looking at.

Is it possible to shorten duration of HTC End Key

Apologies if this has been asked before but a quick search of the forums and google came up with nothing.
I have my long press end key set to lock my device, which works great to prevent accidental key presses, etc. while in the pocket or case. However, I think that 5 seconds is too long to have to press the key. Is there any registry setting that would allow for, say, a 2 second duration to activiate the long key press function? Similarly, I am using the tweak that allows for a long press of the phone key to open messaging, but, again, 5 seconds seems overly long. Thanks in advance.
matchtrader said:
Apologies if this has been asked before but a quick search of the forums and google came up with nothing.
I have my long press end key set to lock my device, which works great to prevent accidental key presses, etc. while in the pocket or case. However, I think that 5 seconds is too long to have to press the key. Is there any registry setting that would allow for, say, a 2 second duration to activiate the long key press function? Similarly, I am using the tweak that allows for a long press of the phone key to open messaging, but, again, 5 seconds seems overly long. Thanks in advance.
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Regarding locking the device, try firing up advanced config and use the lock function which locks the device when you power it off (standby). really usefull.
Where is that setting? Sounds useful but I can't seem to find it.
Thanks,
Steve
mrvanx said:
Regarding locking the device, try firing up advanced config and use the lock function which locks the device when you power it off (standby). really usefull.
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Thanks Mr. Vanx. Excellent tip.
steveoidm said:
Where is that setting? Sounds useful but I can't seem to find it.
Thanks,
Steve
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Its one of the tweaks in advanced config 3.2, not sure which one as my raph isnt here at the mo.

Getting rid of WM6 backlight dimming?

Hi,
Is it posible to disable backlight dimming in WM6?
I don't want to send the device go to standby, just turn off it's backlight, let me give you an example:
In WM5, where backlight dimming was not implemented yet, i was using this:
Sleep mode settings: both disabled,
Backlight: both enabled (battery and external),
Device lock enabled on today screen.
This way i could 'wake' the device just by tapping on the screen or on any button, and the next step being unlocking it. The battery consumption in this mode is almost the same as with using standby mode. And another big benefit was much more stability in the OS and other applications because the system was never going into real standby. And of corse wifi and other things could remain on while in this 'standby' mode. Also, imagine using S2U2 in this mode...
But.. this scenario is no more posbile in WM6, because backlight does not go off anymore, but instead it dimms, leading to a fast battery consumption.
Moreover, device lock function become useless.
Someone sugested ScreenOff (or blackme) /and ScreenOn. Leaving alone that this would be a 'manual' solution, you can't tap on screen after using screenoff because screen is completely off, not only the backlight, and tapping does nothing.
This topic was first opened in Developement section and is now closed, but if you want to read it, here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447663
thnx alot for your help
Bump to keep this thread alive because I would really rather my phone working like that and have locking being actually useful. Because what's the point of locking your phone when it's gonna power off by itself anyway?
Hope people can come up with a solution soon. Maybe a registry edit to make the dim go to 0%.
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Bump to keep this thread alive because I would really rather my phone working like that and have locking being actually useful. Because what's the point of locking your phone when it's gonna power off by itself anyway?
Hope people can come up with a solution soon. Maybe a registry edit to make the dim go to 0%.
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thnx for support
I agree we need to get rid of dimming. Because that way S2U2 or any other lock program make no sense. I must first turn on the device then unlock. So locking is not needed because device is turned off.
I believe we should wake up microsoft to make a patch or an update or something about it.
If a general poll be posted i believe all the wm users would like - want this feature.
and maybe the admins as the xda community could declare our statement to microsoft.
What do you think?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3006798&posted=1#post3006798
thnx for the pool, the results seem favorable to us,
i was thinking, wm 6.5 will be out next year, maybe we are lucky and this will be fixed in it..?
I use S2U2 and I have it set to 'blank screen only' after 10 seconds. This means that by running s2u2.exe (which is mapped to a long press on a hardware button) it leaves the device locked with the screen off, but not suspended.
jez83uk said:
I use S2U2 and I have it set to 'blank screen only' after 10 seconds. This means that by running s2u2.exe (which is mapped to a long press on a hardware button) it leaves the device locked with the screen off, but not suspended.
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please, explain me how do you have set s2u2 exactly?
for me not works.
and how do you have mapped s2u2 to long press hardware button?
Thanks
picarddontoro said:
please, explain me how do you have set s2u2 exactly?
for me not works.
and how do you have mapped s2u2 to long press hardware button?
Thanks
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In the s2u2 settings, in the battery power section, 'Power Off in' is set to 10seconds, and 'but Blank Screen only' is set to ON.
I've assigned s2u2.exe to a hardware button using 'spb pocket plus', although if you want a free package which does that, you'll have to search around.
picarddontoro said:
and how do you have mapped s2u2 to long press hardware button?
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Here's the info :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1783616#post1783616

Polaris touch panel locked for low value of Pressure Threshold

Playing with my Polaris with Advanced Configuration Tool Ver. 3.3 I made a big mistake: I set the Pressure Threshold to Normal (default). After reset was not more possible to use the Touch Panel. With CeRedEdit I found out that the value in the registry is set to 200 (instead of 19866).
Now I'm not able to use the device because is locked and I cannot unlocked because "pressure" is not enough. I've tried also to push as much as I can but without any results.
With CeRegEdit from my PC I can read the value of Pressure Threshold but I can't modify it because it needs to install a file on Polaris to unlock registry to write a value in HKLM.
I tried also to hard reset the device but it's not possible because keys (IE and GPS) are locked.
The only thing that I can do is answer to phone calls.
Please help me!!!!
Is there a way to change Pressure Threshold value from remote ?
Thanks
Davide
dknight71 said:
........Please help me!!!!
Is there a way to change Pressure Threshold value from remote ? ........Davide
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Search for 'My Mobiler'. Download and install on your PC. Sync Polaris and try running any reg editor on PPC from PC. Might solve your problem.. Good Luck...
02xda2 said:
Search for 'My Mobiler'. Download and install on your PC. Sync Polaris and try running any reg editor on PPC from PC. Might solve your problem.. Good Luck...
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I've installed it but it asks me on the phone my confirmation to execute remote.exe because the author is not known. It's the same problem that I have with CeRegEdit when I try to unlock registry.
I cannot accept because touch panel is not usable.
Thanks for the suggestion!
hi 'dknight71'
Why don't you flash a 'splash' or 'radio' using RUU (not custom RUU); that will hard reset the device... you will lose any data there though.
dknight71 said:
Playing with my Polaris with Advanced Configuration Tool Ver. 3.3 I made a big mistake: I set the Pressure Threshold to Normal (default). After reset was not more possible to use the Touch Panel. With CeRedEdit I found out that the value in the registry is set to 200 (instead of 19866).
Now I'm not able to use the device because is locked and I cannot unlocked because "pressure" is not enough. I've tried also to push as much as I can but without any results.
With CeRegEdit from my PC I can read the value of Pressure Threshold but I can't modify it because it needs to install a file on Polaris to unlock registry to write a value in HKLM.
I tried also to hard reset the device but it's not possible because keys (IE and GPS) are locked.
The only thing that I can do is answer to phone calls.
Please help me!!!!
Is there a way to change Pressure Threshold value from remote ?
Thanks
Davide
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Try to press left lower Hardware button (the one under the green) and
the Wheel Button the same time (simultanely) and the Calibration
Screen should pop up allowing you to reset touchscreen treshold.
Olioaglio
Olioaglio said:
Try to press left lower Hardware button (the one under the green) and
the Wheel Button the same time (simultanely) and the Calibration
Screen should pop up allowing you to reset touchscreen treshold.
Olioaglio
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Tried but the device is locked so it shows to press Cancel and then Unlock...
Thanks
Dknight
dknight71 said:
Tried but the device is locked so it shows to press Cancel and then Unlock...
Thanks
Dknight
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Is it already locked when you fresh restart?
I think it should work also in locked state.
Again: Press and hold left lower HARDWARE button, hold it pressed
and press wheel button (or the blue lit one on Polaris).
Olioaglio
Try looking for some WinCE registry editor that runs on PC and works over activesync, such as one present in EVC4. I don't know if it loads anything that would give a security warning, but maybe not, hence, certainly worth a try.
same problem
I'm having this same problem. My device is set to lock automatically when it is turned on. The Lower Left hardware button and center button trick does not work because it is locked. The only button that does anything is the sleep button. ActiveSyncing isn't an option because I have to unlock my device before I can connect. ActiveSync jsut gives a "Please unlock device to connect" message. Is the only fix for this going to be to enter the flashing mode (sorry, can't remember the technical term, but I mean when you hold the camera button while soft resetting) and re-flashing my ROM?
[edit]After trying a few more times, I was able to get my phone to hard reset holding the lowest two hard keys and hitting the reset button. It's sad, because I had just finished setting up everything after flashing my ROM. Oh well, hopefully it'll go faster this time.[/edit]

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