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Tornado locked keyboard still lights display, drains battery

I recently got a Qtek 8300 (similar to an i-Mate SP5m). It's working pretty well and I'm pleased with it. However, one thing I wish I could correct is that when I have my phone in a case, slightly touching the front of the case causes the locked keyboard to unblank the screen. I have an eBook reader so I have the screen stay on for a longer-than-usual time. The problem is that unblanking the screen for no reason wastes battery power. Half the time when I glance down at the phone case, the screen is on.
Is there any way to get only the left soft key, or any other key, to unblank the screen to unlock the keyboard, and have all the other keys ignored? Thanks.
-Gary-

I'd be very curious to get a solution to this problem too. Even the Automatic Keylock utility seems to end up calling the canned WM5 keylock routine, which turns on the light whenever you touch a locked key...
I really liked the way WM2003SE locked the keys on a PocketPC phone. With that, the light stayed off until I pressed the power button. The beauty of the power button is that it's recessed and won't be pressed by a carrying case. Plus, I always knew where the power button was - even in the dark.
Dave H

This is a BAD flaw in the software build.
Has anyone found a fix to this?
I do know that the PPC version of WM5 has a checkbox somewhere in settings that actually allows you to disable all keys except the power button, when the keylock is applied. So there's got to be some extra registry entries on the PPC. Anyone got a Wizard or similar rhey can take a look at the registry and see?
I am SURE standby time would be GREATLY improved if we could invoke this on the Smartphone platform.......

cinimod1000 said:
This is a BAD flaw in the software build.
Has anyone found a fix to this?
I do know that the PPC version of WM5 has a checkbox somewhere in settings that actually allows you to disable all keys except the power button, when the keylock is applied. So there's got to be some extra registry entries on the PPC. Anyone got a Wizard or similar rhey can take a look at the registry and see?
I am SURE standby time would be GREATLY improved if we could invoke this on the Smartphone platform.......
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From my Wizard (XDA Mini-S), turning the "lock all keys" option on and off, changes this value:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd]
"DefaultKeyLock"=dword:00000000 (unlocked)
"DefaultKeyLock"=dword:00000001 (locked)
unfortunately, there is no "Keybd" key on my Tornado (Xda IQ, specifically) so I suspect this won't work. Shame...
Daern

Two little issues with locking and backlight

Hi Guys,
There are a couple of things I've not been able to get working in the way I'm used to on my Artemis, just wondered if anyone can help....
1) The require password when device is not used for x minutes, when set to 0 minutes on my Artemis, would only ask me for the password if it was coming out of standby... I'm trying to get the Polaris to behave in the same way. The gotcha with this is that having edited the settings on the Artemis, it doesn't behave like this anymore
What's actually happening is that when set at 0 minutes the device locks right away. I've now set it to 1 hour but now when coming out of standby I don't have to put the password in unless I leave it for an hour... Which is what it sounds like it should do, but not what I want, or what it WAS doing!
2) My backlight doesn't come on until I have fully unlocked the device... So I can't see the keypad or unlock button in daylight. My Artemis doesn't do this, the backlight comes straight on.
Any ideas are welcome
Thanks
LP

Wouldn't mind knowing about a reg tweak for the backlight/lock issue myself...

Screenlock? and backgrond light
I'v managed to get a screenlock function to work really nice. The Polaris is now always locked on start, exept for Answer/Reject soft and hardware buttons, plus that I can shut down the ringing with the volume button. Really nice.
The program that does it is Autolock. You find it att http://www.intelliott.com
The backlight problem was solved via a register hack found on this site.
At
\HKCU\ControlPanle\Backlight\LockLevel
Rename the folder to LockLevelX.
Does work even if the handset is soft resetted.

Thanks peta§,
That reg hack works pretty well

Any chance of a little more detail on the registry tweak. The backlight issue is really starting to annoy me.
Thanks

I followed the instruction in this link. It was quite easy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351709

peta§,do u know any registry tweak in order to disable key lock permanently?

Cheers Peta,
Worked a treat however, I don't understand why this was not done at the manufacturing stage unless it was purely an oversight.
Thanks

I agree MusicArtist, it should be activated in WM6 from the start. It's very interesting what can happen when you take your phone out of the pocket when a reminder calls for your attention, or a SMS or call is incoming and you by mistake presses some functions on the activated screen.
dene3erw, disabling key lock permanently? I don't follow. Do you mean the Autolock?
If so, ýou can find an icon in the Program folder, just to tap on it. It enables/disables the function.

Backlight when keyguard activated

Any ideas how I get the backlight to come on when the keyguard is activated? Its really hard to see the keys.
Also, in windows mobile 5 on my XDA mini s the keyguard deactivated when the passcode was entered. on this version the 'enter' button has to be pressed before the pass code is accepted. Can this be switched off?
Cheers!
James

I have the same questions... can anybody help us?

I did find reg hacks on the upgrading forum section - didnt work for me though

This is a big problem. Today I was outside and the sun was shining. I could not enter the passwort because the screen was too dark... I need some help.

underzone said:
I did find reg hacks on the upgrading forum section - didnt work for me though
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Hi there, could you tell me where you found the reg hacks? I would like to give it a go since I am desperate enough to try anything to sort this problem out.

This Registry entry swichtes on backlight when device is suspended and blocked:
Rename folder HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevel to:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevelX
OK, accept = yes, Soft-Reset
It's somewhere in tricks thread, for me it works like a charm.
Rgds,

francescrm said:
This Registry entry swichtes on backlight when device is suspended and blocked:
Rename folder HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevel to:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevelX
OK, accept = yes, Soft-Reset
It's somewhere in tricks thread, for me it works like a charm.
Rgds,
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It's not working. Although I renamed HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevel
-> HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevelX
After soft reset, HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevel come back again & HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevelX appear to be a new registry entry.

calvin_M said:
It's not working. Although I renamed HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevel
-> HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevelX
After soft reset, HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevel come back again & HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevelX appear to be a new registry entry.
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Yes, that is right, both folders are there now. When creating LockLevelX, did you click in ok on the top / right side of screen ?
Rgds,

Yes I did that.
I thought your suggestion will turn the backlight on when we press the key while the key is locked.
Anyway your suggestion can help in the following scenario
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/656913-post81.html

calvin_M said:
Yes I did that.
I thought your suggestion will turn the backlight on when we press the key while the key is locked.
Anyway your suggestion can help in the following scenario
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/656913-post81.html
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I feel sorry when it's not what you were looking for. Anyway, "my suggestion" comes from HTC Polaris tweaks and tricks
Rgds,

Hi I found this 'fix' on google, i think it was on an HTC forum (i.e. via htc website).
I have O2 Orbit2 and had the dim screen on keylock/password lock. (While those who don't have it may not see the problem i couldn't actually tell if the machine was on or not, in sunlight, to unlock!)
The solution was to goto HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevel
and change the value to 00000003.
The only issue is that on my Orbit2, using PHM regedit, this immediately 'fixes' the issue but reverts on reset!
Just means I have to re do the reg edit after every reset.
BTW have been very annoyed at the '10 second' backlight bug so am hoping locklevelx will fix that.

Very glad to say that renaming lock level to locklevelx has sorted out both problems! I now have both folders HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevel&HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevelx
The backlight now goes off after 30 seconds when the keys are unlocked.
When the keys are locked the backlight stays on for ten seconds, it will then come back on for ten seconds with any button press or screen tap.
On resume from standby, locked or unlocked the backlight is on.
Step by step of what edits I made.
HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevel; value set to 00000003;
then
HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevel renamed to HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevelx
HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\ string battery timeout; value set to 30
SOFT RESET
Then looking at the registry
HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevel; has value 0
HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LockLevelx; has value 00000003 (displayed as 3)
HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight Battery timeout = 30

As previously mentioned the renaming of the folder worked on my orbit II
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351709

Getting rid of WM6 backlight dimming?

Hi,
Is it posible to disable backlight dimming in WM6?
I don't want to send the device go to standby, just turn off it's backlight, let me give you an example:
In WM5, where backlight dimming was not implemented yet, i was using this:
Sleep mode settings: both disabled,
Backlight: both enabled (battery and external),
Device lock enabled on today screen.
This way i could 'wake' the device just by tapping on the screen or on any button, and the next step being unlocking it. The battery consumption in this mode is almost the same as with using standby mode. And another big benefit was much more stability in the OS and other applications because the system was never going into real standby. And of corse wifi and other things could remain on while in this 'standby' mode. Also, imagine using S2U2 in this mode...
But.. this scenario is no more posbile in WM6, because backlight does not go off anymore, but instead it dimms, leading to a fast battery consumption.
Moreover, device lock function become useless.
Someone sugested ScreenOff (or blackme) /and ScreenOn. Leaving alone that this would be a 'manual' solution, you can't tap on screen after using screenoff because screen is completely off, not only the backlight, and tapping does nothing.
This topic was first opened in Developement section and is now closed, but if you want to read it, here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447663
thnx alot for your help

Bump to keep this thread alive because I would really rather my phone working like that and have locking being actually useful. Because what's the point of locking your phone when it's gonna power off by itself anyway?
Hope people can come up with a solution soon. Maybe a registry edit to make the dim go to 0%.

laocheebye said:
Bump to keep this thread alive because I would really rather my phone working like that and have locking being actually useful. Because what's the point of locking your phone when it's gonna power off by itself anyway?
Hope people can come up with a solution soon. Maybe a registry edit to make the dim go to 0%.
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thnx for support

I agree we need to get rid of dimming. Because that way S2U2 or any other lock program make no sense. I must first turn on the device then unlock. So locking is not needed because device is turned off.

I believe we should wake up microsoft to make a patch or an update or something about it.
If a general poll be posted i believe all the wm users would like - want this feature.
and maybe the admins as the xda community could declare our statement to microsoft.
What do you think?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3006798&posted=1#post3006798

thnx for the pool, the results seem favorable to us,
i was thinking, wm 6.5 will be out next year, maybe we are lucky and this will be fixed in it..?

I use S2U2 and I have it set to 'blank screen only' after 10 seconds. This means that by running s2u2.exe (which is mapped to a long press on a hardware button) it leaves the device locked with the screen off, but not suspended.

jez83uk said:
I use S2U2 and I have it set to 'blank screen only' after 10 seconds. This means that by running s2u2.exe (which is mapped to a long press on a hardware button) it leaves the device locked with the screen off, but not suspended.
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please, explain me how do you have set s2u2 exactly?
for me not works.
and how do you have mapped s2u2 to long press hardware button?
Thanks

picarddontoro said:
please, explain me how do you have set s2u2 exactly?
for me not works.
and how do you have mapped s2u2 to long press hardware button?
Thanks
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In the s2u2 settings, in the battery power section, 'Power Off in' is set to 10seconds, and 'but Blank Screen only' is set to ON.
I've assigned s2u2.exe to a hardware button using 'spb pocket plus', although if you want a free package which does that, you'll have to search around.

picarddontoro said:
and how do you have mapped s2u2 to long press hardware button?
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Here's the info :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1783616#post1783616

Turn on phone by pressing the Windows button?

Hi there,
is there a way to turn my display on by pressing the windows button and not the power button?

I think unless you have a physical button (I don't, Samsung focus user here) it would be pressed over and over and over in your pocket. Doesn't sound good to me lol.
Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express

LG Optimus 7 here.. it's a real button

freaksey said:
LG Optimus 7 here.. it's a real button
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I was wondering that, too :/
I suppose it's determined by a registry key, btw.

My Omnia 7 does that by default, but it probably wouldn't work with a capative button.

only registerykey which makes any sense is
[HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\KBD\WakeUpSources] = 23.
I think KBD means something like keyboard but i have no glue. Can someone who knows a bit more of the WP7 registry check if this entry has anything to do with wake up?
(I'm not even able to change the value of this regkey, it switches back to 23 every time I close regedit)

freaksey said:
only registerykey which makes any sense is
[HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\KBD\WakeUpSources] = 23.
I think KBD means something like keyboard but i have no glue. Can someone who knows a bit more of the WP7 registry check if this entry has anything to do with wake up?
(I'm not even able to change the value of this regkey)
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Yes, KBD means Keyboard for sure...
Needs testing and (maybe, I'm not sure this helps) some HTC or Samsung user posting their key value :/

My Value of this key is 23 (0x17). My phone is a HTC Mozart 7.
I thought about messing with this value for testing. I should get the device out of standby by connecting power. Anyway, feels not quite right do change this

I have HTC HD7 and even in my phone the Value of this key is 23 (0x17).

whynot2007 said:
I have HTC HD7 and even in my phone the Value of this key is 23 (0x17).
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I'd assume this is either the keycode for the power-key or some kind of route to a eventlistener or smth? The naming WakeUpSources seems to indicate this is not a reference to a single button, or am I wrong?

whynot2007 said:
I have HTC HD7 and even in my phone the Value of this key is 23 (0x17).
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are you able to change the regvalue? I'm not. It seems to be some kind of write-protected on my LG.

If it's Julien's registry editor and unless it's been changed recently you'll find that the method he's using for LGs only persist writes in certain areas of the registry. If you're using the MFG app, those keys might be further locked down.
Regarding multiple values, they'd have to be coded as an integer since it's a dword value. Seems unnecessarily tricky for key codes.
Oh, and the value on my Optimus 7 is 7.

Values of 7 and 23 can be flag - multiple values coded in one.
If it's really a flag then messing with it may lead to funny results.
The more I think about this the more I think this value could be a BusIO port number where any given sensor (like a button) may fire a signal.
To sum up, I don't think you'd be able to change the key for waking the phone up with a decent amount of effort.

first test would be to set this to some other value and check if it's really the wakeup key.
I tried to do it with MFG but there I get a Value of 1928312392 or something and not 23.

freaksey said:
first test would be to set this to some other value and check if it's really the wakeup key.
I tried to do it with MFG but there I get a Value of 1928312392 or something and not 23.
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72EFB648 as a hex value doesn't look very prommising in understanding what this might be (at least for me)
I'll play around with my value if I got a spare minute.

the_Crispy said:
72EFB648 as a hex value doesn't look very prommising in understanding what this might be (at least for me)
I'll play around with my value if I got a spare minute.
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I were in the wrong Rootpath.
I changed 23 to 10. Rebooted. And checked if the Value is still 10 in the reg and then tried if it makes any difference.
No it doesn't. I can still unlock with the power button
This seems to be not the value we are looking for.

Camera Button
I completely agree with trying to find another button for power. I personally hate the power button on my HD7, but it also has sensor buttons not actual buttons. What would be better for everyone, because it is the same for every device would be waking up with the Camera Button. This button already is able to automatically wake the device directly to the camera app. You need to press and hold he camera button for this. What would be great is if you just press the button and release and it would just wake to the lock screen. I hope somebody would like to work further on this and make it a reality.

Hardware Keyboard
freaksey said:
only registerykey which makes any sense is
[HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\KBD\WakeUpSources] = 23.
I think KBD means something like keyboard but i have no glue. Can someone who knows a bit more of the WP7 registry check if this entry has anything to do with wake up?
(I'm not even able to change the value of this regkey, it switches back to 23 every time I close regedit)
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Hi all
This looks like a registry key that has been included for devices with a hardware keyboard, such as the HTC 7 Pro. Perhaps somebody with such a device could test for us.
I remember in WM6.5 there was a registry key that enabled/disabled wake up on hardware keyboard extension.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

Are there any Omnia 7 users reading this? Omnia 7 has this working so that if you have either the proximity or the light sensor blocked (or both of course, you can try it with your finger, all this was pointed out in some other topic I can't find at this very second), the Start button won't act as lock key, but if the both sensors are "free", then the Start button will unlock the phone (lit the screen, you still have to swipe it).
Well invented by Samsung, as this prevents the screen turning on all the time in your pocket and eating the battery - unnoticeably to the user - that way. This would also explain the connection to sensors the_Crispy mentioned.

Its been a while now. Did anyone made any progress?