Tornado locked keyboard still lights display, drains battery - HTC Tornado

I recently got a Qtek 8300 (similar to an i-Mate SP5m). It's working pretty well and I'm pleased with it. However, one thing I wish I could correct is that when I have my phone in a case, slightly touching the front of the case causes the locked keyboard to unblank the screen. I have an eBook reader so I have the screen stay on for a longer-than-usual time. The problem is that unblanking the screen for no reason wastes battery power. Half the time when I glance down at the phone case, the screen is on.
Is there any way to get only the left soft key, or any other key, to unblank the screen to unlock the keyboard, and have all the other keys ignored? Thanks.
-Gary-

I'd be very curious to get a solution to this problem too. Even the Automatic Keylock utility seems to end up calling the canned WM5 keylock routine, which turns on the light whenever you touch a locked key...
I really liked the way WM2003SE locked the keys on a PocketPC phone. With that, the light stayed off until I pressed the power button. The beauty of the power button is that it's recessed and won't be pressed by a carrying case. Plus, I always knew where the power button was - even in the dark.
Dave H

This is a BAD flaw in the software build.
Has anyone found a fix to this?
I do know that the PPC version of WM5 has a checkbox somewhere in settings that actually allows you to disable all keys except the power button, when the keylock is applied. So there's got to be some extra registry entries on the PPC. Anyone got a Wizard or similar rhey can take a look at the registry and see?
I am SURE standby time would be GREATLY improved if we could invoke this on the Smartphone platform.......

cinimod1000 said:
This is a BAD flaw in the software build.
Has anyone found a fix to this?
I do know that the PPC version of WM5 has a checkbox somewhere in settings that actually allows you to disable all keys except the power button, when the keylock is applied. So there's got to be some extra registry entries on the PPC. Anyone got a Wizard or similar rhey can take a look at the registry and see?
I am SURE standby time would be GREATLY improved if we could invoke this on the Smartphone platform.......
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From my Wizard (XDA Mini-S), turning the "lock all keys" option on and off, changes this value:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd]
"DefaultKeyLock"=dword:00000000 (unlocked)
"DefaultKeyLock"=dword:00000001 (locked)
unfortunately, there is no "Keybd" key on my Tornado (Xda IQ, specifically) so I suspect this won't work. Shame...
Daern

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Disabling backlight on notification

Hello,
Yes, I searched everywhere but didn't find any answer.
Is it possible to disable the backlight when notifications comes ? For example, when a SMS or an e-mail arrives, the screen powers up and my pocket presses the screen and do bad things on the screen. This would be a cleaner idea than locking the screen!
I know that phoneAlarm have an option for this but I'm using PhoneWeaver for this profiling job (which is smaller than it). I think it must be a reg key somewhere for this :/
Thanks in advance for your precious help!
To be honest, I do not understand you question but I think you are searching for the sound and alert settings?
Go to start > settings > sound and alerts (and then the 2nd tab)
If this is not what you are looking for, could you be more specific?
he want it to when it turns on because of an alarm or sms or the likes that it
dont have backlight on the lcd
personaly i doubt it's possible i believe that when notifications turn the device on it's 100% the same thing that is sendt to the os as when one press the on button if that is the case that the os cant tell the diff
i doubt it could have different backlight settings depending one
what turns it on
holding the button down for a bit turn off the backlight on many devices
untill the button is pressed for a bit again
also when it's turned off so when the notification turns it on the backlight will be off
but ofcause so will it when power button turns it on
I would like my device (TyTN/Hermes) under windows mobile 6 not to "turn on" when a message arrives because my phone case press on the screen while on my pocket and some strange things arrives (delete messages, surf on the Internet, ...) as random parts and buttons are pressed...
I was hoping this simple thing could have been done easily
slide2unlock
I was wanting the same thing also since I carry my phone in my pocket(htc mogul). As I would reach into my pocket to pull out the phone I would end up pressing button to where programs would open and what not. I tried slide2unlock and I think that has solved my problem pretty good. The only time the phone get unlocked is with an incoming call. Other than that the screen just turns on with an incoming text. Good thing about this program is that if you turn on your screen, the buttons won't do anything without sliding the slider to unlock.
if a password is set it dont go to the today screen and random screen pokes will not result in wild pr0n surfing
or getting a case with s screen in front like the silicon ones or the
full plastic ones will safe the screen from clicks and damage too
I am also looking for a solution. I am currently using slide2unlock, but I would prefer the behavior mentioned above. Specifically, I would like the phone to stay in standby mode (screen off, not responding to button presses or screen taps) when an incoming SMS arrives or phone acquires or loses signal. Currently these behaviors will turn on the phone by itself.
I recently updated to Shamanix 1.3 (aka Schap's 4.01 customized) which has this behaviour
The phone don't turn on when an e-mail/sms/mms arrives (only when a phone call arrives)
Anyone has found the solution for this?
Thanks!
GM.

Request for WM6PEE - please make Automatic Keylock OPTIONAL

First off-- great job on the ROM. I appreciate your hard work as much as anyone. It generally works great on my SDA.
That said, could you please remove Automatic keyLock 3.9 beta 10 from your next revision? It is a nice program, but should probably remain in the Extras package. My company uses Goodlink for pushing exchange email to Windows mobile. Goodlink enforces keylock control on our devices and cannot be disabled. I am having strange issues happen with the keyboard and backlight. I think these are happening due to a conflict between auto keylock and goodlink. In some cases the keyboard just stops working. The only keys that will take input are the left and right soft keys. In addition, the backlight sometimes refuses to come on after, key press, OR it just blanks out while I am in the middle of something. In both cases the only way to get it back, is to reboot the phone. I have tried the adjusting the DisableLightWorkaround key, but it had no effect.
Thanks!
Just delete keylock.lnk from /windows/startup, you can do it even from pc thru AS if your keyboard locks... and then keylock won't matter to you
thanks. that is the 1st thing i tried. unfortunately, it seems like keylock makes reg changes even if the program is not active. i could be wrong, but i haven't had this problem with any other rom (wm5
or wm6). this is the only rom i have tried that had auto keylock pre-loaded.

Hardware Buttons In Standby (A Serious Issue?)

I was a bit surprised to just discover, by accident, that whenever I press any of the front hardware buttons when my device is in standby then the Touch Cruise doesn't completely ignore them, it switches on the button-panel lights for a while and then they go off after the timeout. For the red hangup key it also makes a beep when the button is pressed as well as activating the button lights.
As far as I can tell this is all the device does, it doesn't switch on the screen or activate any of the functions associated with the buttons I press (as far as I can tell) but I still worry that if I accidentally get the TC in a position in my pocket (when I'm driving or just sitting down for instance) where I'm constantly activating a button then after a few hours I could either drain the battery unnecessarily by keeping the button lights permanently on and/or I could crash the device by swamping it with button-pressed messages.
Do other people see the same behaviour when their TC is in standby and is there any hack to disable this?
- Julian
Try going into Settings - System - Key Lock
and change it to the top option "Lock all buttons except power button"
Same suggestion - doesn't make a sound here
That DOES happen when he is locked and NOT in standby. Still then - the volume keys work which is not really desired but hey...
Thank you mouseymousey and SabbeRubbish. You fixed my problem, but not in the way you probably intended.
I'd just been narrow minded and assumed that, if this option was available, it would be in the Button settings app so I hadn't seen the Key Lock settings app. Thanks to you both I found this and, guess what, the top "Lock all buttons except power button" WAS set but my buttons still activated the backlight and sometimes beeped.
Confused, I changed the option to the bottom "Do not lock buttons" and it behaved as expected, i.e. any button press completely woke up the device. I then set the option back to the top "Lock all buttons except power button" and this time my problem is solved, i.e. no reaction whatsoever from pressing the front buttons.
Wierd. My TC obviously got itself into an odd state and toggling the button lock preference seems to have fixed it. I'll keep an eye on this one.
Thanks again for the invaluable advice.
- Julian
I shouldn't let misleading info lie here so here's my confession. This issue turned out to be nothing to do with my device getting confused about its key lock setting. The fact that it fixed itself when I toggled the key lock setting was a coincidence, what I did at the same time as toggling the setting was to also close down Conduits PocketPlayer which I had still minimised and running (although not playing any music) in the background.
The problem appears to be with PocketPlayer (PP) and is 100% reproducible. If PP is still running (even minimized) when the device is put into standby then I get the behaviour described in my initial post, close down PP before going into standby and everything is OK and the front buttons are totally inactive.
I have of course filed a bug with Conduits but the good news is that noone needs to worry about any generic TC/WM6 wierdness here.
- Julian

Getting rid of WM6 backlight dimming?

Hi,
Is it posible to disable backlight dimming in WM6?
I don't want to send the device go to standby, just turn off it's backlight, let me give you an example:
In WM5, where backlight dimming was not implemented yet, i was using this:
Sleep mode settings: both disabled,
Backlight: both enabled (battery and external),
Device lock enabled on today screen.
This way i could 'wake' the device just by tapping on the screen or on any button, and the next step being unlocking it. The battery consumption in this mode is almost the same as with using standby mode. And another big benefit was much more stability in the OS and other applications because the system was never going into real standby. And of corse wifi and other things could remain on while in this 'standby' mode. Also, imagine using S2U2 in this mode...
But.. this scenario is no more posbile in WM6, because backlight does not go off anymore, but instead it dimms, leading to a fast battery consumption.
Moreover, device lock function become useless.
Someone sugested ScreenOff (or blackme) /and ScreenOn. Leaving alone that this would be a 'manual' solution, you can't tap on screen after using screenoff because screen is completely off, not only the backlight, and tapping does nothing.
This topic was first opened in Developement section and is now closed, but if you want to read it, here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447663
thnx alot for your help
Bump to keep this thread alive because I would really rather my phone working like that and have locking being actually useful. Because what's the point of locking your phone when it's gonna power off by itself anyway?
Hope people can come up with a solution soon. Maybe a registry edit to make the dim go to 0%.
laocheebye said:
Bump to keep this thread alive because I would really rather my phone working like that and have locking being actually useful. Because what's the point of locking your phone when it's gonna power off by itself anyway?
Hope people can come up with a solution soon. Maybe a registry edit to make the dim go to 0%.
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thnx for support
I agree we need to get rid of dimming. Because that way S2U2 or any other lock program make no sense. I must first turn on the device then unlock. So locking is not needed because device is turned off.
I believe we should wake up microsoft to make a patch or an update or something about it.
If a general poll be posted i believe all the wm users would like - want this feature.
and maybe the admins as the xda community could declare our statement to microsoft.
What do you think?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3006798&posted=1#post3006798
thnx for the pool, the results seem favorable to us,
i was thinking, wm 6.5 will be out next year, maybe we are lucky and this will be fixed in it..?
I use S2U2 and I have it set to 'blank screen only' after 10 seconds. This means that by running s2u2.exe (which is mapped to a long press on a hardware button) it leaves the device locked with the screen off, but not suspended.
jez83uk said:
I use S2U2 and I have it set to 'blank screen only' after 10 seconds. This means that by running s2u2.exe (which is mapped to a long press on a hardware button) it leaves the device locked with the screen off, but not suspended.
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please, explain me how do you have set s2u2 exactly?
for me not works.
and how do you have mapped s2u2 to long press hardware button?
Thanks
picarddontoro said:
please, explain me how do you have set s2u2 exactly?
for me not works.
and how do you have mapped s2u2 to long press hardware button?
Thanks
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In the s2u2 settings, in the battery power section, 'Power Off in' is set to 10seconds, and 'but Blank Screen only' is set to ON.
I've assigned s2u2.exe to a hardware button using 'spb pocket plus', although if you want a free package which does that, you'll have to search around.
picarddontoro said:
and how do you have mapped s2u2 to long press hardware button?
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Here's the info :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1783616#post1783616

Screen tap after lock... missing?

I am looking for an option whereby one can tap the screen to wake up device after lock. I tried to look for this setting but it isn't anywhere in the settings, its only for the hardware keys. Since I am using S2U2 I thought this would be useful, but the only way seems to be using the power button, anyway of using the tap on the screen to bring up the S2U2 interface? Thanks in advance.
I've got a different oppnion of usefulness in this case... I'd hate the thought of the PDA activating in my pocket waiting for me to unlock it, the screen always on is a miniature black hole for the battery...
I don't think there's a feature that would enable this, or any 3rd party program that would help you do this... but then again maybe I'm worng...
I agree with you, the only reason that prompted me to look for this option was because I installed S2U2. Now when I want to unlock device I have to switch on power before I use S2U2, whereas it would have been more convenient if I were to only tap the screen and the power turned on. Anyway S2U2 has an option to power down which can be set for seconds, there by saving battery power too. Strangely this option was there when I was using the XDA Wizard on WM 5. Maybe they removed it in WM 6?
Sorry, I don't know about that, I've never used S2U2 before, and I never will because when I want access to my PDA then I want it now, without any delays... but even if it has a power down option it wont help if its the pocket of my jeans...

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