I was a bit surprised to just discover, by accident, that whenever I press any of the front hardware buttons when my device is in standby then the Touch Cruise doesn't completely ignore them, it switches on the button-panel lights for a while and then they go off after the timeout. For the red hangup key it also makes a beep when the button is pressed as well as activating the button lights.
As far as I can tell this is all the device does, it doesn't switch on the screen or activate any of the functions associated with the buttons I press (as far as I can tell) but I still worry that if I accidentally get the TC in a position in my pocket (when I'm driving or just sitting down for instance) where I'm constantly activating a button then after a few hours I could either drain the battery unnecessarily by keeping the button lights permanently on and/or I could crash the device by swamping it with button-pressed messages.
Do other people see the same behaviour when their TC is in standby and is there any hack to disable this?
- Julian
Try going into Settings - System - Key Lock
and change it to the top option "Lock all buttons except power button"
Same suggestion - doesn't make a sound here
That DOES happen when he is locked and NOT in standby. Still then - the volume keys work which is not really desired but hey...
Thank you mouseymousey and SabbeRubbish. You fixed my problem, but not in the way you probably intended.
I'd just been narrow minded and assumed that, if this option was available, it would be in the Button settings app so I hadn't seen the Key Lock settings app. Thanks to you both I found this and, guess what, the top "Lock all buttons except power button" WAS set but my buttons still activated the backlight and sometimes beeped.
Confused, I changed the option to the bottom "Do not lock buttons" and it behaved as expected, i.e. any button press completely woke up the device. I then set the option back to the top "Lock all buttons except power button" and this time my problem is solved, i.e. no reaction whatsoever from pressing the front buttons.
Wierd. My TC obviously got itself into an odd state and toggling the button lock preference seems to have fixed it. I'll keep an eye on this one.
Thanks again for the invaluable advice.
- Julian
I shouldn't let misleading info lie here so here's my confession. This issue turned out to be nothing to do with my device getting confused about its key lock setting. The fact that it fixed itself when I toggled the key lock setting was a coincidence, what I did at the same time as toggling the setting was to also close down Conduits PocketPlayer which I had still minimised and running (although not playing any music) in the background.
The problem appears to be with PocketPlayer (PP) and is 100% reproducible. If PP is still running (even minimized) when the device is put into standby then I get the behaviour described in my initial post, close down PP before going into standby and everything is OK and the front buttons are totally inactive.
I have of course filed a bug with Conduits but the good news is that noone needs to worry about any generic TC/WM6 wierdness here.
- Julian
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Folks, any idea how to switch off the screen / lock the keyboard without the need of double press the red power button?
This is kind of bothering cause when you're in a application and need quickly to put your Treo into your pocket, you need to press 1st to get to the home-screen and 2nd to switch off.
Yeah, seems to be something new with the 750 (no other treo before did this). Palm set this up purposely, so I wouldn't assume there's a workaround for it. You'll get used to double clicking
Not that I know
I have used it for ages and found many shortcuts but no "quick lock".
Sorry
How about getting an application that device locks your phone upon return from standby? I use BatteryStatus Today Plugin by Chi Tai Dang.. This plugin has the option to lock device on wakeup and set cpu speed(I use this a lot)..
But mine's a wizard, what do I know about Treo.. but what I do now is, press the power button to get the phone to go into standby and when I want to use it again, I press the power button and it will device lock upon wake up.
I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
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vijay555 said:
I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
V
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"Device lock" that you may know of isn't used on Treo's. Palm uses their own "keyguard," which uses the red END button as a power button when not on the phone. If you are on the today screen, one click will shut the device off. However, if you are in another program, the first tap brings you to the today screen, and the second click turns the screen off (and the keyguard on if you have selected it to be that way). On all other treo's, WM or POS, one click of the end button would shut the screen off (unless you were on the phone obviously, it would be the END function), regardless of what program you were in. Palm changed this, I assume, to be like most cell phones, where when you press the END key it returns to the home screen, regardless of what you were doing. Like a RAZR would do.
Thats the best way I can explain it. You would be surprised Vijay on how many customizations Palm made to the OS.
Yes, I've heard that they did - thank Goodness one of the OEMs finally saw fit to do something original.
Hmm.. from what you describe, clicking twice doesn't seem like a very big chore... I did something similar in VJOkButt. Is it really necessary to convert the 2 clicks to 1 click? Investigating it barely seems worth the effort
V
I agree, hence my original post.
When you are on the today screen, it works normally. And you can double-click quite rapidly and it will work. Not a big deal for me.
yes guys, its not that dramatical, but still, it would be an improvement also considering that I want to stay in that one application (a note which I'm editing) and want to get there after waking up the device again without the need of again starting application, look for the last note, opening etc...
with HTC hermes and others the power button works exactly like this and its even better.
Hi all,
If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
But you need an odd-shaped hand to do that one handed!
It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.
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If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
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On my device, that method doesn't close the app. It just locks the keyboard and then powers off. When I power on again, the app is still running and on screen. I think that's what fire00 was looking for.
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It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.
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Sorry PJC ACE, my mis-type - using option + red button powers the device off WITHOUT closing the app - just like the power button on the Wizard ;-)
My apologies!
GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))
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GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))
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Option (hold)+Red Phone button is a nice alternative, but I'd really like to find a way to prevent the Red Phone from reverting to the Today screen, so I can power off directly with it with one press...Vodafone's excuse for specifically asking for it this way (every other phone's "End" button brings you back to the "home" screen) is ridiculous, these aren't like every other phone.
I installed HTC home plugin and now my red button wont let me go into standby. I uninstalled and still not working. Any ideas?
Side Button + Suspend
There is a thread at TreoCentral that explaines how to activate the side button and make it available for button assignment in the settings screen.
Second there is a small program called suspend.
I have mapped the 1 press of the side button to suspend and away we go.
1 - Click keyguards/screen off.
Also it resume in the place or program you left when you unlock it.
Regards
Hello,
Yes, I searched everywhere but didn't find any answer.
Is it possible to disable the backlight when notifications comes ? For example, when a SMS or an e-mail arrives, the screen powers up and my pocket presses the screen and do bad things on the screen. This would be a cleaner idea than locking the screen!
I know that phoneAlarm have an option for this but I'm using PhoneWeaver for this profiling job (which is smaller than it). I think it must be a reg key somewhere for this :/
Thanks in advance for your precious help!
To be honest, I do not understand you question but I think you are searching for the sound and alert settings?
Go to start > settings > sound and alerts (and then the 2nd tab)
If this is not what you are looking for, could you be more specific?
he want it to when it turns on because of an alarm or sms or the likes that it
dont have backlight on the lcd
personaly i doubt it's possible i believe that when notifications turn the device on it's 100% the same thing that is sendt to the os as when one press the on button if that is the case that the os cant tell the diff
i doubt it could have different backlight settings depending one
what turns it on
holding the button down for a bit turn off the backlight on many devices
untill the button is pressed for a bit again
also when it's turned off so when the notification turns it on the backlight will be off
but ofcause so will it when power button turns it on
I would like my device (TyTN/Hermes) under windows mobile 6 not to "turn on" when a message arrives because my phone case press on the screen while on my pocket and some strange things arrives (delete messages, surf on the Internet, ...) as random parts and buttons are pressed...
I was hoping this simple thing could have been done easily
slide2unlock
I was wanting the same thing also since I carry my phone in my pocket(htc mogul). As I would reach into my pocket to pull out the phone I would end up pressing button to where programs would open and what not. I tried slide2unlock and I think that has solved my problem pretty good. The only time the phone get unlocked is with an incoming call. Other than that the screen just turns on with an incoming text. Good thing about this program is that if you turn on your screen, the buttons won't do anything without sliding the slider to unlock.
if a password is set it dont go to the today screen and random screen pokes will not result in wild pr0n surfing
or getting a case with s screen in front like the silicon ones or the
full plastic ones will safe the screen from clicks and damage too
I am also looking for a solution. I am currently using slide2unlock, but I would prefer the behavior mentioned above. Specifically, I would like the phone to stay in standby mode (screen off, not responding to button presses or screen taps) when an incoming SMS arrives or phone acquires or loses signal. Currently these behaviors will turn on the phone by itself.
I recently updated to Shamanix 1.3 (aka Schap's 4.01 customized) which has this behaviour
The phone don't turn on when an e-mail/sms/mms arrives (only when a phone call arrives)
Anyone has found the solution for this?
Thanks!
GM.
While playing music in windows media player, i assigned a button to "Toggle Screen" function which effectively turns off the screen but keeps buttons alive so i can skip/seek/pause/etc... but the problems is that after about 1 minute, hardware buttons get disabled as well (but music keeps playing), which is quite frustrating when you expect buttons to work but they dont anymore.
i'm assuming its because in my power settings i set it to "Turn off device if not used for 1 minute".... But the confusing part is that i've used to have same settings on my PPC-6800/Titan/Mogul and the hardware buttons stayed on forever after i turned off the screen using WMP's "Toggle Screen" function.
is there an excpetion list somewhere that would turn my device off in 1 minute if not used UNLESS there is "WMP/wmplayer.exe" process running? or maybe there is an different solution that would produce the desired result?
PS: i'm running Sprint's stock rom.
Thanks!
You could use AEButton Plus to assign the Screen Toogle to any button you want (for example to long press the action key). That would work in any application, also in WMP.
tried it and AEButton Plus does the job. assigned the function to the d-pad's down button (center button is used for enter, ok/minimize, close, and task-manager through one click, double click, tripple click, long click respectively)... xcept now there is this half a second lag everytime i want to scroll down with the d-pad. quite annoying...
btw after some experimenting i found that wmp's "toggle screen" function turns off the screen and keeps desired buttons working, indefinetely, only if i disable the whole "Turn off device if not used for x minutes" option (Turn off the backlight option doesnt have any effect on wmp's function). so it seems that this function is causing the problem.
since on ppc6800 wmp's function worked perfect without any hiccups even with that power setting turned on, i suspect that there just has to be some way to replicate same behavior on touch pro. is there some place in registry that controls the power settings and its preferences?
PS: i need to "toggle screen" only when in wmp, cuz in other cases i just use power button to effectively turn off and lock the device using s2u2.
I use WMP's built in function of toggle screen. Set it to hold left. It works like a charm.
Kraize92 said:
I use WMP's built in function of toggle screen. Set it to hold left. It works like a charm.
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what are the settings in your "Start > Settings > System > Power > Advanced" screen? and also, what ROM are you running? because setting 'toggle screen' to hold left and having 'turn off device after x..' set still produce the bug i mentioned in the first post, hardware buttons disabled 40 seconds after initiating 'toggle screen' with wmp...
Hello guys.
I want to ask you regarding Home/Back/Green/Red keys backlight,that is often on,while in suspend state with slided-out keyboard.
IOW:
- keyboard slided out
- backlight of bottom keys is ON
- while suspend the backlight goes NOT OFF(sometimes is it working normally)
This happens with WM6.1,WM6.5 as well.
Can someone help with this?
Is anyone else having this same issue? I can confirm that it is happening to me on the stock ROM/RADIO and on EnergyROM 3.0 and the latest ATT radio.
I go to check my messages using the slide out keyboard, and when I'm done I put the phone in standby and close the keyboard, the DPAD backlight is still lit. To 'clear' it, I have to turn the phone on again and press a button on the DPAD (like the center button) and then turn the phone off.
This isn't a show-stopper or anything, but it sure does worry me that one day I'll put my phone in my pocket and take it out at the end of the day with an empty battery... Any help would be most excellent!
Thanks!
Is there a program so that when your screen is locked, you can assign one button only to wake your screen and have access to the unlock slider? Now, if any of the 4 hard buttons are pressed, it brings up the unlock screen. The problem is, when the phone is in my pocket, any one of the 4 buttons, if accidentally pressed, wakes up the screen. Then of course, I hear my phone in my pocket clicking because the heat from my leg is "tapping" the screen. I just want to have the right hard button wake the phone up.
I cant find an option in the settings for this, nor any threads that discuss it.
Thanks.
I really admire you if you're able to slide the slider with the phone in your pocket.
LOL. No, I dont slide it. Just that when in my pocket, when any one of the 4 hard buttons are pressed(accidentally), i have to press the power button to lock the screen again. A pain in the butt. I what the phone to have only one hard button, not 4, that will shut off the screen when the phone is locked.
I'd like it too.
Maybe even some old school unlocking shortcut that uses hardware key combination (e.g. Home + Vol Down), rather than slide.
The Diamond, or was it the HD, had a button on the top to wake the phone up. That was nice because it was hard to accidentally press that button when it was in your pocket.
I use pocketshield for automatically unlocking my phone when the light sensor senses light coming in. An added benefit for this is that when the phone is in my pocket and I accidentally press any button, the screen will automatically shut itself off again after 10 seconds since there is no incoming light. This tool has really made my life so much easier as it gets rid of the stupid slider thing as well; you can use the lightsensor, the motion sensor and an old school sliding mechanism to unlock your phone- brilliant stuff!
Iarapilot might have meant something else indeed. Most of WM6.1-WM6.5 have a tab in the Start->Settings->Buttons screen that allows you to choose which kind of wake-up you need: waking up by pressing the Pw-ON button or waking up pressing whatever button you want. Sudden power-on is very boring, even thought you can't make your device work as you need to slide the screen. But this is a power comsuption anyway and I wonder why previous version had this chance regardless the home screen features. I do want it!!
I think it's a matter of regkeys, somebody of us who's used to "playing" with regkeys should figure out how this feature could be resumed.
Hope you help us!!
Maybe I didnt make my point very well. I just would like to have only the R hardware key, when pressed, wake up the screen so as to be able to slide to unlock. Not 4 buttons, that when any of those are pressed, wake up the screen.
I also have the problem, I only want to have only one key to wake up not other key
Please help us
Since it's free, I add myself to the request queue Having the screen wake up only on powerbutton press could be useful to reduce to 25% the probabilityof screen turning on by accident when buttons are pressed inside the pocket. Battery saver for sure.
Same here. I've been looking for this since I first got the phone! My old kaiser could do this, surely it wouldn't be too hard to implement on the HD2?
edit: nevermind, posted in the wrong thread
I don't think any software can control that as key presses send electrical signals direct to the chip/power unit, where the "power on" circuits reside. What software can do is turn it off again if not unlocked within a specific amount of time, so battery is saved. Screen touches shouldn't be an issue either if using a lock screen.
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I use pocketshield for automatically unlocking my phone when the light sensor senses light coming in. An added benefit for this is that when the phone is in my pocket and I accidentally press any button, the screen will automatically shut itself off again after 10 seconds since there is no incoming light. This tool has really made my life so much easier as it gets rid of the stupid slider thing as well; you can use the lightsensor, the motion sensor and an old school sliding mechanism to unlock your phone- brilliant stuff!
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and doesnt create any problem in normal use? u ask because if u are in call and let some other app start while talk (maybe with earphones) its quietly impossible use portrait mode because left hand always cover light sensor and screen shut down.. its the same with that app?
Did someone already found a solution? I would like such a option too. wake up only by centerbutton for instance....