Guys please help me out. Is it worth it to switch to moto xt720? My current phone is Samsung Wave. Thanks
here's my view
Bada OS = sucks, no freedom, no choices
phone itself = good phone and amazing AMOLED screen
so if you are satisfied to have a phone that is a phone, and works, and able to take pictures, then there is no need to change
but if you want the wonderful FREE stuff that you get off Android Market, then you'll need an Android Phone
and the XT720 is a very good phone that serves all purposes, it might not be the top of the line, but it can keep up without a sweat
a bit shy on the battery life
however... the if you were using a WAVE, that means you were on a 3G HSDPA 900 / 2100 network
the XT720 runs on 3G HSDPA 1700 / 2100 network
are you sure that is compatible?
Thanks for the reply bro. Yeah I['m still in a dilemma of I should switch. I never had any android phones before. That's why I think that xt720 would be a good starting phone for me to try android. but the thing that is holding me back from switching is that xt720 is only runs 2.1 eclair. the phone memory is too low to isntall many apps. I read somewhere that you can use a certain app or hack that let's you install the apps on the memory card, but it also stated that it still uses some part of the phone memory,.
I got bored on this bada os. No customization, very simple and mimimalistic interface.
the memormy may be small. It's not laggy at all with more than 1 widget and multiple apps open (even w/o overclock). And 2.1, alright, but Dexter is working on the 2.2 port and he's gonna throw out a bèta one of these days. So 2.2 is on it's way and if the kexec crack starts to work good, then we could also have newer android versions later this year. So updates are not a problem for now.
To the TS I'd say: throw away that Wave and get yourself the XT720 It's a really good Android-phone and like AllGamer says: not the top of the line, but it sure can keep up and the camera is really good, hardware too and it just does what it does and that's what a phone needs to do IMHO: do what it does.
But indeed, check the MHz to see if it's compatible.
to the TS: since u are geting a new phone please DO NOT settle for anything less than froyo and 512MB ram or you'll be regret. speaking from experience, i own the xt720 and my wife's nexus one runs wayyyy better with the additional ram. the ram really helps when u have many apps running
en0203 said:
to the TS: since u are geting a new phone please DO NOT settle for anything less than froyo and 512MB ram or you'll be regret. speaking from experience, i own the xt720 and my wife's nexus one runs wayyyy better with the additional ram. the ram really helps when u have many apps running
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I have 3 phones - HTC Desire HD, HTC Desire and this xt720. The xt720 (with O.C.1000) is laggiest of all. The response is much slower than the other two. Granted, it's rather unfair to compare the Desire HD with this due to the price. However, the usage experience is very bad.
Put it this way, I listen to music, fine. When a call arrives, it takes 2 seconds to unlock the screen because the screen stalls for that long. After that, I missed the call and have to wait another 2 seconds for the contact list to pop up so that I can call back. I dont have any of the issues with the HTC phones. Context switching is SLOW on this phone and no surprise, that IS the memory (RAM) being so small.
anonaye2 said:
I have 3 phones - HTC Desire HD, HTC Desire and this xt720. The xt720 (with O.C.1000) is laggiest of all. The response is much slower than the other two. Granted, it's rather unfair to compare the Desire HD with this due to the price. However, the usage experience is very bad.
Put it this way, I listen to music, fine. When a call arrives, it takes 2 seconds to unlock the screen because the screen stalls for that long. After that, I missed the call and have to wait another 2 seconds for the contact list to pop up so that I can call back. I dont have any of the issues with the HTC phones. Context switching is SLOW on this phone and no surprise, that IS the memory (RAM) being so small.
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dude! your phone is something seriously wrong. most of the XT720 users don't complaint like this.
I've compared my phone with Nexus One (Running 2.1) and to my surprise, Nexus One is way too sluggish.
Moreover, you're comparing the phone with devices running Android 2.2 which obviously performs better than 2.1 regardless of hardware (just compare two Nexus One running 2.1 and 2.2 respectively) . So, wait till Dextor finished porting android 2.2 and compare again. you'll be surprised.
hmm now I'm confused, half says that xt720 is a good phone, the other says it's sluggish and lags. hmm. I still can't decide. Wave is a good multimedia phone, but I'm not using it that much because I already bought an hdtv and I prefer watching in the bigscreen.
spiderx_mm said:
dude! your phone is something seriously wrong. most of the XT720 users don't complaint like this.
I've compared my phone with Nexus One (Running 2.1) and to my surprise, Nexus One is way too sluggish.
Moreover, you're comparing the phone with devices running Android 2.2 which obviously performs better than 2.1 regardless of hardware (just compare two Nexus One running 2.1 and 2.2 respectively) . So, wait till Dextor finished porting android 2.2 and compare again. you'll be surprised.
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Then, obviously xt720 fails for not getting 2.2 from Motorola. Depite high hopes and expectations from Dextor (thanks and keep up the good work!); no offence but the port and time-line is not guarenteed. It's a risk-factor big or small.
For similar >priced< phone, I simply cannot see any reason to get xt720 instead of the HTC Desire -- already working at 2.2 means more features/ performance out of the box. There is no need to overlock, app2sd, JIT, etc etc.
Surely we all enjoy tuning and optimizing our phones (that's why we're here!), but this is no way to expect any average person to do all that just to make the one product "slighly on par" with the other. We are paying similar price afterall.
The xt720 has better xenon flash/ 8MP camera. But, if I want to take a good photo/video, it'll be coming from a proper camera/camcorder.
anonaye2 said:
For similar >priced< phone, I simply cannot see any reason to get xt720 instead of the HTC Desire
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have you ever though about the radio bands?
not all phones works on all 3G networks
maybe the OP is looking to buy a phone that works for the network he/she is using or planing to use.
that was exactly my case, i switched network and all the phones that i liked, did not work on the network, and the only 2 choices were XT720 or Nexus S
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Hi,
I am from Montreal, Canada. I am with rogers and I have Xperia X1i. Right now I have a contract with rogers of 6Gb for $30 till november. I really want an Android phone. Since Google decided to go with a weird frequency for 3g, I cant really get a nexus phone. So I decided to wait till july and probably get Xperia X10 with Android. I heard that telus is bringing motorola droid in Canada and telus have better plans than rogers (BTW for those who don't know, roger has terrible plans, my data plan is awesome but voice plan is terrible). So I am trying to decide between this two phones.
X10
Pros:
4inch screen, better looks, 1GHz processor!!!!
And I get to keep the same number with rogers
Cons:
It runs on Android 1.6?!! And even though it has 65k screen but it might be running at 35k?! No keyboard.
Milestone
Pros:
Android 2.0.1, Keyboard, hard metallic body, this phone is out and tested so it wont have any bugs.
Cons:
3.7inch screen, 133Mb rom and 550MHz processor.
I heard some where that the processor speed in not important. I am not sure whether it is true or not. One thing is for sure it runs on Android 2.0.1 whereas X10 is stuck at 1.6. I was wondering if anybody else is in the same kind of dilemma or even any thoughts or suggestions.
Thanks in advance
Bikram
Xperia X10 the specs are much better, but i'd personally hold out for HTC bravo.
I can't believe for a minute that there won't be an update to eclair for the X10, even if it's just be the folks on XDA! I wouldn't base my decision on what android version is on the device...
Bikram said:
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Android 2.0.1, Keyboard, hard metallic body, this phone is out and tested so it wont have any bugs.
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Did you REALLY just write that?
You should try googling it Go to the Android forums and look at the milestone and droid sections.
I chose a HTC HD2 over the Milestone for a couple of reasons.
1 - Bugs. They both have bugs, one big diference though is that HD2 has this massive community
2 - Exchange Support (not sure if relevant to you). 2.0 is still not full Exchange support.
3 - Office Support (again, not sure if relevant to you)
4 - Various reviews that said the keyboard on the Milestone was pants. Very few liked it (but some did!)
Its actually rogers that has the weird frequency.
You're in montreal, so wind isn't available (and won't be since videotron bought up all the quebec spectrum), but if you can hold out until summer, videotron http://corpo.videotron.com/site/press-room/press-release/375 is launching AWS service compatible with GN1.
SornyX10 may have a little bit of android, but it is really crippled by all the sorny proprietary junk that they've added onto it. There is also no indication that they will actually be updating from android 1.6 to anything newer *ever*.
Regarding CPU speed, its usefulness depends on your use. It is a phone after all... and with the internal storage limitations of the milestone, its not like you'll be installing any huge 3d games to take advantage of a fast CPU.
Bikram said:
Hi,
I am from Montreal, Canada. I am with rogers and I have Xperia X1i. Right now I have a contract with rogers of 6Gb for $30 till november. I really want an Android phone. Since Google decided to go with a weird frequency for 3g, I cant really get a nexus phone. So I decided to wait till july and probably get Xperia X10 with Android. I heard that telus is bringing motorola droid in Canada and telus have better plans than rogers (BTW for those who don't know, roger has terrible plans, my data plan is awesome but voice plan is terrible). So I am trying to decide between this two phones.
X10
Pros:
4inch screen, better looks, 1GHz processor!!!!
And I get to keep the same number with rogers
Cons:
It runs on Android 1.6?!! And even though it has 65k screen but it might be running at 35k?! No keyboard.
Milestone
Pros:
Android 2.0.1, Keyboard, hard metallic body, this phone is out and tested so it wont have any bugs.
Cons:
3.7inch screen, 133Mb rom and 550MHz processor.
I heard some where that the processor speed in not important. I am not sure whether it is true or not. One thing is for sure it runs on Android 2.0.1 whereas X10 is stuck at 1.6. I was wondering if anybody else is in the same kind of dilemma or even any thoughts or suggestions.
Thanks in advance
Bikram
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Get the X10a, Rogers is launching it later in the year if you want 3G.
Bikram said:
Hi,
I am from Montreal, Canada. I am with rogers and I have Xperia X1i. Right now I have a contract with rogers of 6Gb for $30 till november. I really want an Android phone. Since Google decided to go with a weird frequency for 3g, I cant really get a nexus phone. So I decided to wait till july and probably get Xperia X10 with Android. I heard that telus is bringing motorola droid in Canada and telus have better plans than rogers (BTW for those who don't know, roger has terrible plans, my data plan is awesome but voice plan is terrible). So I am trying to decide between this two phones.
X10
Pros:
4inch screen, better looks, 1GHz processor!!!!
And I get to keep the same number with rogers
Cons:
It runs on Android 1.6?!! And even though it has 65k screen but it might be running at 35k?! No keyboard.
Milestone
Pros:
Android 2.0.1, Keyboard, hard metallic body, this phone is out and tested so it wont have any bugs.
Cons:
3.7inch screen, 133Mb rom and 550MHz processor.
I heard some where that the processor speed in not important. I am not sure whether it is true or not. One thing is for sure it runs on Android 2.0.1 whereas X10 is stuck at 1.6. I was wondering if anybody else is in the same kind of dilemma or even any thoughts or suggestions.
Thanks in advance
Bikram
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Processor speed is important. If you are going with Windows Mobile 6.1 to 6.5 the 528 MHZ is like a minimum requirement, or else your phone will be slow as ****. Don't listen to the people who have 528 MHz phone. Listen to the people who have the 1GHz one.
lbcoder said:
Its actually rogers that has the weird frequency.
You're in montreal, so wind isn't available (and won't be since videotron bought up all the quebec spectrum), but if you can hold out until summer, videotron http://corpo.videotron.com/site/press-room/press-release/375 is launching AWS service compatible with GN1.
SornyX10 may have a little bit of android, but it is really crippled by all the sorny proprietary junk that they've added onto it. There is also no indication that they will actually be updating from android 1.6 to anything newer *ever*.
Regarding CPU speed, its usefulness depends on your use. It is a phone after all... and with the internal storage limitations of the milestone, its not like you'll be installing any huge 3d games to take advantage of a fast CPU.
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Wow videotron is getting AWS, great.
When it comes to processor everybody has different opinion. I am not going to play 3D games but I hate slow animations in my HTC sense ROM ( even though xperia x1 is suppose to have a seperate memory just for video processing). And specially when they freezes!!! Its really annoying, I haven't seen that on a Iphone though (I dont have an Iphone, saw it from friends). And android would have been the next thing to try.
Android 2.1 is better than 1.6 that I know for sure. Now its seems like everything comes to one question:
DOES PROCESSOR SPEED MATTERS? I never seen a phone with 1GHz so no clue. Anybody ever seen phone with 1Ghz?
Monty Burns said:
Did you REALLY just write that?
You should try googling it Go to the Android forums and look at the milestone and droid sections.
I chose a HTC HD2 over the Milestone for a couple of reasons.
1 - Bugs. They both have bugs, one big diference though is that HD2 has this massive community
2 - Exchange Support (not sure if relevant to you). 2.0 is still not full Exchange support.
3 - Office Support (again, not sure if relevant to you)
4 - Various reviews that said the keyboard on the Milestone was pants. Very few liked it (but some did!)
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Dude up here in Canada we call a bug "bug" like when you can't call 911 from your cell
Now google that lol
Just kidding, you were right.
Hey everyone,
Just joined the forums, and figured I'd earn myself a warm welcome by asking a question that I'm positive no one has asked before: Vibrant, G2 or myTouch HD?
I do have certain criteria that I'd like to share, as I've spent many hours reading up on the three phones. Here's my take on the three phones so far based on what's important to me:
Samsung Vibrant
Likes
AMOLED screen is amazing
16GB built in storage is great
Battery life sounds decent
Lightweight
Speaker is great
Fast CPU
Dislikes
Not stock Android, not sure how crippled 2.2 will be on it
Not sure if it will tether when 2.2 comes out
No HSPA+
Can't store applications on SD card
Sounds like OTA updates have caused issues
Bloatware
G2
Likes
Almost stock Android 2.2
HSPA+
QWERTY keyboard is handy
Tethering supported after OTA update
Can store applications on an SD card
Dislikes
Screen is good, not great
Battery life questionable based on what I've read
Speaker is not very good
Not sure if 800Mhz CPU will show its age sooner rather than later
4GB (1.2GB usable) is a bummer
Can't remove some preinstalled Google applications
myTouch HD (what I've found on spec reports)
Likes
Fast CPU
HSPA+
Nearly stock Android
Front facing camera
Screen sounds like it will be better than the G2's but not as good as the Vibrant's
Dislikes
Battery life? Sounds like it could be not so great
Not sure how good the speaker will be, sounds like HTC doesn't do great in this department
Sounds like it has the same 4GB/1.2GB of the G2 so far
So, as you can see, I can find something to love and hate in all three. I'd like to hear comments regarding perhaps why you chose one over another. I'm also very curious to hear more about the myTouch, because right now I'm working off speculation.
I'm not looking for any of you to read my mind, but I am curious to hear others compare and contrast the three and share their preferences.
Vibrant or MyTouch.
The vibrants screen will amaze you. Its like an orgasm ona screen. Plus there's a mod for a front facing camera. Plus there's roms with vanilla android so its not bad.
The battery life is great.
The mytouch HD sounds good. So I'd wait for it in case
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The more that I've read, I'm leaning more towards the G2. It sounds like several people get a couple days before having to recharge, and that people have been able to prevent the preloaded software from booting via the package manager.
Also, I just read that it sounds like the myTouch will have HTC Sense which, while not a bad thing, is a blocker to fast updates. I'd like to be able to upgrade to Gingerbread as soon as it's available, and it sounds like the G2 is the only phone (besides the Nexus One) that's going to be able to do that easily.
Finally, after reading up on the JI6 battery issues on the Vibrant, as well as the Mini Kies software that people are now having to run via Windows to get updates, it gives me a little less faith in Samsung.
I am still very curious to hear others speak about the speaker and the resetting issue on the G2.
Things you cannot change in a phone or upgrade are; screen, memory, processor. you have all of them as dislike or concern on hd or g2.
Your concern in regards of the vibrant, seem to be sw related. Being a Galaxy S phone. You have i believe, the larger group of modders, developers working on it worldwide, to get you a large array of options to upgrade, fix, or just show off your phone.
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Chazz Thanks for posting the poll! I'm looking at a very similar predicament in replacing my Mytouch 3G (32B). At this point, I'm not sure if the MyTouch HD will have the capabilities that I'll want on it (SIPphone, Tether, ability to modify simple things like boot animations).
Vibrant biggest benefit (to me)- Can be rooted, tethered
MyTouch HD biggest foreseeable benefit - HSPA+, native 2.2
Just to add my 2c, The CPU in the G2 is actually faster than the Vibrant and MyTouch HD. 800MHz doesn't mean a thing, it's a new gen. CPU and it currently gets the highest scores of ANY mobile CPU out there.
Robin.B said:
Just to add my 2c, The CPU in the G2 is actually faster than the Vibrant and MyTouch HD. 800MHz doesn't mean a thing, it's a new gen. CPU and it currently gets the highest scores of ANY mobile CPU out there.
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If you look around you will see that the MyTouch HD/4G actually has the same Generation (45nm? I think) CPU in it, but the MyTouch will be clocked to 1GHz by default. If the MyTouch can be rooted I think that will convince me fully. I can always sell it in 6 months when something better comes out, 'cause it will.
Side note, the G2 and the MyTouch are only on T-Mobile. The Z (Sense version of G2) might come to another American provider.
Unconnected.
I love my g2's speakers. I use them all the time with slacker radio. I'd also like to add that the g2 also supports wifi tethering once rooted using the free visionary app in the market. (One click root) And like what was mentioned above you can overclock the processor to out due any phone on the market. I will admit that vibrant screen is nice but that thing has to take up lots of battery. Oh i almost forgot the keyboard is awesome aswell. The Froyo 2. 2 is nice and very smooth. Has the vibrant gotten the GPS issue fixed?
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Anyone else have any thoughts on these two (G2 and Mytouch) phones? I am on the verge of ditching my Vibrant (laundry list of issues spanning 4 phones) for either the G2 or Mytouch4G.
As both are HTC phones and fairly close in specs and build quality, does one have any real distinct advantage over the other? While I will certainly miss the Vibrant's screen, can't say I'll miss the dodgy Samsung support.
I just signed up for WIND here in canada and they have ****ty phones. I really was gonna go for the Galaxy S but not gonna happen since i went WIND. I been using a BB 9700 and am very happy with it but i wanted to to switch to the robot for a while now.
So my only option for now is to go BB or go robot. The XT720 got mixed reviews and no 2.2 update really making me have second thoughts. The under powered processor is another let down but i hear you can overclock it to 1GHz? but how bad is that on the battery life (i would hate to charge it daily). the reviews said its slow and under powered but i need to know what you guys think.
I know it will never be a galaxy but can it come close with the hacks and overclocking etc?
Do you think we will get 2.2 unofficially from the Korean update?
PS i had a omnia 2 before the BB and if this is as sluggish as the O2 then forget it.
1. XT720 will not get official 2.2 update. Motoroi (Korean XT720) already got the update on Christmas Eve and developers are trying to port it to other XT720 phones, but they're still having some issues with proximity sensor, gravity sensor and touch sensitive button LED lights. 3G connection is also still not working.
2. Even in 2.1 update 1, we can overclock the phone (up to 1.2 GHz), install App2SD to move your apps to SD card and have some tweaks to make the phone running a lot better than original stock.
3. Unfortunately, you'll have to charge your phone daily (same as other touch-screen phones larger than 3.5" screen). My best record is 40 hours continuously running without charging. can't go over that.
4. After a few tweaks, the phone is better than Nexus One (according to the benchmarks also). But the HD video recording sucks. (HDMI output is also just for show. can't get it to work nicely). 8MP camera is just on per with other 5MP cameras. Xenon Flash rocks when it's dark, but it kills you with the lagging time and battery life.
Apart from the things mentioned in 4, I love my phone. I've been using this for 6 months already and still thinking to keep it for at least another 6 months before getting a new one even I can't get 2.2 update on the phone. (Throw that BB away. It's Stone Age's phone).
Hope you get your answer. pls feel free to ask anything u want to know.
Love it. Although my previous phone was a WinMo phone, so anything better will seem like heaven.
@spiderx_mm's points are all true, however it's not that much of a big deal for me. I guess I'll root mine eventually, but only to get rid of stock apps I do not use to get me some space.
well my main concern is the lag, if we can make the lag go away altogether i can see myself using the phone. Using a 3rd party app to get apps on the SD card is no big deal as long as it works for any/all apps. Hopefully users can convince Moto to get of there ass and support there devices so we get a official 2.2 update, that way we get some major speed increase, flash and apps on SD officially.
Coming from a O2 which i had to tweak the hell out of and still have slow response crashes and reboots, it start to get annoying and i don't want on that boat again. I ended up having to disable everything just so i can use it regularly. This is something i never had to do with the BB and is 1000x better then winmo so i really hope thats not a issue with this phone due to the low RAM.
I dumped the O2 and went BB was coz of the lack of RAM no matter what i did i could not get more then 2 apps working or they just started randomly closing on me.
1.) If clocked to 1GHz dose the phone heat up?
2.) How much RAM do you have after 2-3 days of usage without a reboot or it dieing?
3.) Is it sluggish at all after the overclock? i can see it lag a bit, but can't deal with it crashing (Samsung Omnia 2)?
4.) What about if you add a live wallpaper and some cool apps that are resource hungry? (just wanna know how much it can handle)
5.) How is browsing websites on the phone? dose it start to hang the phone lag/crash?
On a regular day i wanna be able to do the following at the same time; surf the web while listing to music, be on MSN and taking calls/SMS/emailsand facebook/twitter and youtube etc. This is what i do with my BB always have MSN running and music playing and usually have the browser open and emails coming in etc check facebook go on youtube links etc I use the BB to the max and got pretty used to it and can't go back to using 2 apps at a time like i had to with the O2.
Even if i can be browsing the web and listing to music and be on MSN and take calls/sms/emails without it hanging, lagging. I could try to live with it, even the BB lags a bit but maybe like 20seconds or so very rarely i have to do a battery pull. But that was a daily thing with the O2.
With the O2 i could not listen to music and surf the web at the same time, if i had HTC Sense running forget even running the browser without getting the low memory message and this is with a stripped down light ROM. I really don't wanna be on that train REALLY REALLY DONT.
As you can see how much i have suffered coz of winmo and hoping this phone is better.
Dude!...
You'll not believe this, but this little toy from Motorora beats the Galaxy S, yes you heard me right, and no, i'm not joking.
If you go over to the I9000 section of the forum, you know Galaxy S is like bread & water, but when you put the 2 together, it beats the SGS hands on 2.1 eclair.
it has got App2SD or App2Card, it can be safely OC to 1 Ghz, stock is 720 Mhz
the screen is smoooooooooth sailing, not laggy like the SGS, GPS is perfect!
SGS GPS works, but it can be better
XT720 battery last a day+ on a single charge even when OCed
8 MP camera, dedicated camera buttons
HDMI output man! HDMI! not even the SGS has that.
you can throw in a 16 GB or 32 GB microSD, it comes out of the box with a 8 GB microSD
3G is really fast on Wind Mobile
Tons of hacks, all well brewed to perfection.
the machine is rock solid and stable... unlike the SGS
Everyone at work were impressed with the XT720 demo, they were not as impressed when the SGS were demoed, due the minor lags.
I was originally in FIDO, but the $40 plan was too sweet to pass over.
You'll not go wrong with the XT720
your next best bet if you really don't pick this one up, are the:
Tmobile Nexus S i9020
Tmobile Galaxy S Vibrant SGH-T959
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jebise101 said:
I just signed up for WIND here in canada and they have ****ty phones. I really was gonna go for the Galaxy S but not gonna happen since i went WIND. I been using a BB 9700 and am very happy with it but i wanted to to switch to the robot for a while now.
So my only option for now is to go BB or go robot. The XT720 got mixed reviews and no 2.2 update really making me have second thoughts. The under powered processor is another let down but i hear you can overclock it to 1GHz? but how bad is that on the battery life (i would hate to charge it daily). the reviews said its slow and under powered but i need to know what you guys think.
I know it will never be a galaxy but can it come close with the hacks and overclocking etc?
Do you think we will get 2.2 unofficially from the Korean update?
PS i had a omnia 2 before the BB and if this is as sluggish as the O2 then forget it.
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Once custom ROMs (obviously, not a custom kernel) get released on the XT702 like on the international Milestone, you won't even need to overclock it for good speeds and lag-free GUI. Even the Droid 2 with its 1GHz OMAP chip can lag with the stock ROM.
The Galaxy S would have been the best phone ever made if Samsung had used a traditional RGB subpixel system instead of terrible pentile matrix (missing 33% subpixels, awfully inaccurate colors). IF you can live with the Galaxy S' pentile matrix display (and that is a big IF) while reading small text, then consider the T-Mobile version mentioned by AllGamer.
i can play movie even mkv 480p smooth without lag..hd games also superb...:
my same fun & joyful experience as khalpowers
khalpowers said:
u proof me wrong dude!..here my 7 home screen...
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Your phone isn't smooth in either of your videos (Maybe just a TINY bit in the MIUI transitions video). That's my major problem with the XT720. I've used my sister's Galaxy S and it's nearly as smooth as an iPhone 4. I would only recommend the XT720 to someone who does not mind that you cannot customize the ROM. Angry Birds doesn't even run at full speed compared to the one on my old iPod Touch.
I ended up getting the nokia 5230 and giving it to my dad, will be getting the SGS for myself. The 2.2 upgrade was a total let down plus no custom ROM's or tweaks kida pushed me off and i never like Moto . SGS has its problems but i think i can live with that because of 2.2 and also up coming 2.3.
just finding that custom ROM is all i will need, if the XT can be OC'ed then maybe the SGS can also. Why would you guys recommend the tmobile version versus the bell version? are they not the same thing minus the antenna's and design?
Getting the Nexus S android 2.3 ported to the SGS was a huge factor for me, as that just says to me once we get this port perfected then anything google releases for the Nexus S can easily be ported to the SGS and no stupid Samsung bloatware. I would only get the Nexus S because of android 2.3 (its gonna come for the SGS officially and even if it doesn't we will have the Nexus port) and the LED flash. Other than that the devices are the same from what i have seen.
if you were looking to get the XT720
you would have noticed it runs on 1700/2100
Bell runs on 850/1900
the Tmobile version runs on 1700/2100
jebise101 said:
I ended up getting the nokia 5230 and giving it to my dad, will be getting the SGS for myself. The 2.2 upgrade was a total let down plus no custom ROM's or tweaks kida pushed me off and i never like Moto . SGS has its problems but i think i can live with that because of 2.2 and also up coming 2.3.
just finding that custom ROM is all i will need, if the XT can be OC'ed then maybe the SGS can also. Why would you guys recommend the tmobile version versus the bell version? are they not the same thing minus the antenna's and design?
Getting the Nexus S android 2.3 ported to the SGS was a huge factor for me, as that just says to me once we get this port perfected then anything google releases for the Nexus S can easily be ported to the SGS and no stupid Samsung bloatware. I would only get the Nexus S because of android 2.3 (its gonna come for the SGS officially and even if it doesn't we will have the Nexus port) and the LED flash. Other than that the devices are the same from what i have seen.
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I ended up getting the nokia 5230
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I probably would recommend the same thing. Though I have one odd use case that most people do not have and that is "wifi" tethering (after rooting)for those times when I need to connect another device to access the Internet. e.g. laptop, PSP, iPod etc.
The phone itself is a bit overpriced for just that one feature though. However, since I recently lost my iPod touch, this would act as a replacement for it.
So far the relationship I have with the phone (got it on Dec 14) can be described as "I hate it, but my life will not be fun without it"
However, I if I still had my iPod, I may get Alcatel Tribe just because it is cheaper.
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if you were looking to get the XT720
you would have noticed it runs on 1700/2100
Bell runs on 850/1900
the Tmobile version runs on 1700/2100
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I know WIND/T-Mobile run on the same bands and Bell/Verizon i think are the same bands and Rogers/AT&T are same bands.
I'm stuck with a 3 year contract with bell and that was why i was thinking of switching to WIND's miracle plan and giving my dad my bell contract. But that not what ended up happening, i stayed with my bell contract and got dad a nokia with the $25 which meant i could in the end get the SGS i wanted since it came out in june.
jebise101 said:
I know WIND/T-Mobile run on the same bands and Bell/Verizon i think are the same bands and Rogers/AT&T are same bands.
I'm stuck with a 3 year contract with bell and that was why i was thinking of switching to WIND's miracle plan and giving my dad my bell contract. But that not what ended up happening, i stayed with my bell contract and got dad a nokia with the $25 which meant i could in the end get the SGS i wanted since it came out in june.
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that's exactly what i did, i switched over to WIND
those plans were AMAZING!!!! (enjoying every minute of it ) unfortunately the lats day to get it was last year 12/31
no more worries about calling long distance
no more worries about sending SMS to international numbers
no more worries about data limit
no more worries about anything.... all feature, all unlimited, ALLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!! muahahahahahaha!!!!!
never been happier switching providers
AllGamer said:
that's exactly what i did, i switched over to WIND
those plans were AMAZING!!!! (enjoying every minute of it ) unfortunately the lats day to get it was last year 12/31
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Wind's plans are awesome, but the coverage is somewhat ****ty still. Just gotta wait until they put more towers out there. Now that there's Mobilicity in town (they seem to use AWS2100 as well) that's only a matter of time.
Hi,
im planing to buy the Xt720 soon, but my question is wether it runs somewhat smooth or is it lagging sometimes, because there were mixed replies in some other thread.
And when i OC the milestone xt720 and maybe put the Froyo JIT thing on it, how would it be in terms of speed in comparison to the HTC Desire?
Is it a huge drawback that the phone cant be updated to 2.2 yet? I mean except for performance it doesn't change that much right?
Overall would you suggest the phone to me or is there a better alternative in this pricerange?
And my last question is, when i root my phone is the chance for real higher that it gets a defect or are these warnings pretty much meanless?
Thanks in advance
when clocked at 1000, you wont even know the difference to when HTC Desire was on 2.1
if you remember how it was for the Desire to run 2.1, then that's how it feels on this phone
we're working towards porting a 2.2 to work on our phone, it'll be a matter of time before we get it
Reedddd said:
Hi,
im planing to buy the Xt720 soon, but my question is wether it runs somewhat smooth or is it lagging sometimes, because there were mixed replies in some other thread.
And when i OC the milestone xt720 and maybe put the Froyo JIT thing on it, how would it be in terms of speed in comparison to the HTC Desire?
Is it a huge drawback that the phone cant be updated to 2.2 yet? I mean except for performance it doesn't change that much right?
Overall would you suggest the phone to me or is there a better alternative in this pricerange?
And my last question is, when i root my phone is the chance for real higher that it gets a defect or are these warnings pretty much meanless?
Thanks in advance
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Ok thank you thats great to hear.
But when i overclock my phone to 1GH will there be issues with the phone, i mean will it stop functioning earlier when overclocked that much or doesn't it matter at all?
In Terms of speed, even when not overclocked the motorola milestone xt720 is faster/less laggy then the samsung galaxy 3 i5800 right? Because i saw a video where the xt720 was lagging and galaxy 3 wasnt.
Sorry for my bad english im german
Thanks in Advance
Hy i´m verry Happy with this Device....i´ve not Modified anything....only installed Updates and some Apps and everything is fine.....i´ve bid it from Ebay as New for 186 €....so for me its the Best Phone i´ve ever bought and it was very cheap.....
I´m an old WinMo Fanboy but now with Android its the best i ever used.....fast,easy to customize and easy to Use......
Sorry for my poor English.....
Loving the phone
I am using it for little more than a month and totally loving it..
Not sure what section to put this in.
I have a chance to get one of these 3 phones. With contract.
I really like the G2 but, want to get the experts recommendations of these 3 phones.
I haven't used anyone of these phones. I do use an HD2 dual booting.
Pros and Cons for all phones and user experience would help me decide.
Thanks
First off i say stay away from the vibrant. Not thst its a bad phone, i personally dont like samsung (returned my epic after 3 days.) As you can see in my sig my current phones include a nexus one, HD2, HD7, and My Touch 4G.
My favorite phone out of the group is the MT4G just because of the speed and power it has. The second gen snapdragon and the 786mb ram make it one of the most powerful and fast android phones on the market.
I have only had the HD7 for 3 or 4 days. Great phone and OS, but it needs more time to mature. My mine problem with it is the no multitasking with third party apps. The Os is smooth as butter though!
IMO get the G2 (If you want the keyboard, MT4G if you want a fully loaded android.)
Personally, I'd get the HD7. It can only get better as the OS matures.
As far as the android phones go, it depends on what you're looking for. G2 has a keyboard, but slower CPU (800MHz). Vibrant has no keyboard, but a faster CPU (1GHz) and also an AMOLED screen.
Don't know if you were looking to get the MyTouch4g, but I'd probably choose that if I were to get an android phone on t-mobile.
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First off i say stay away from the vibrant. Not thst its a bad phone, i personally dont like samsung (returned my epic after 3 days.) As you can see in my sig my current phones include a nexus one, HD2, HD7, and My Touch 4G.
My favorite phone out of the group is the MT4G just because of the speed and power it has. The second gen snapdragon and the 786mb ram make it one of the most powerful and fast android phones on the market.
I have only had the HD7 for 3 or 4 days. Great phone and OS, but it needs more time to mature. My mine problem with it is the no multitasking with third party apps. The Os is smooth as butter though!
IMO get the G2 (If you want the keyboard, MT4G if you want a fully loaded android.)
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I do like the MT4G too, that one isn't available to me right now (these aren't being bought from a T-Mobile store). That is why I didn't include it in the poll or post.
I'm not really sure about the Vibrant, I can't believe they didn't put a camera flash on it, what a waste.
Thanks for your input. I did click the thanks button.
With NAND boot Android on the HD2 I'm not sure you will get an appreciably better Android experience from the Vibrant, G2, or MT4G. I would go with the HD7 personally to try something new. Or wait it out until after CES.
The main advantage is 4G speeds with the G2 or MT4G, if your in a 4G area. In Kansas City I avg 8-10mbs on my MT4G. I do see great potential in WP7. I absolutly love the OS, im just waiting for Microsoft to add the lil things they left out. If you take lots of pics with your phone though the camera sucks on the HD7.
I have yet to try a nand rom on my HD2. Time to dust it off and give it a shot. it was already good with SD roms.
My sd Android is working good. Battery life could be better. I haven't tried the NAND either, might try it tomorrow.
Still haven't figured out which one to get.
I just got a vibrant and I really love it. I came from a hd2 so screen size as very important.
While I thought I wanted the mt4g but I am very happy with the vibrant. I havent experienced any bugs and with the nero v3 rom i've been happy as a pig in sh.t lol.
As far as the hd7 I wasnt willing to take the plunge because of the sd card limitation and the possible lack of apps.
Well personally ive played around with the G2 and i like it, yes it has a slower CPU but it has been overclocked to 2 Ghz!!! 2X faster than the MT4G, but you dont have to go that ridiculous, you can just go with the standard 1.2 Ghz, thats assuming your willing to root your phone
Not to mention that the G2 is said to get the new gingerbread (2.3) soon, according to others, it makes it quicker so if you add all that i think that the G2 is the best
(also if you really like the MT4G sense ui, i have heard that they have it as a rom for the G2, not to mention they have Cyanogen on it)
but basically its up to you
Not looking to leave a Vibrant
As you can see by my signature I have a Vibrant. It is operating some as silk and very very fast. If it wasn't for the developers I could not say this.
I have been looking at a Nexus S and realizing the differences between Nexus S and a Vibrant are the curved body style, a flash with the camera and a 2.3 OS. The camera on a Vibrant is very good even taking night shots. A flash is not required on a Vibrant.
I will not change to a Nexus for the small differences. Very happy for now waiting for something newer to come along
My vote goes to Desire Z
I vote for the G2. I'm selling my Nexus S for one.
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Advantages of of G2 are Keyboard and (almost) stock android IMO.
Advantages of MT4G are faster processor (and its been overclocked to, i run mine at 1.4ghz) More ram(786mb), more ram cant hurt. Front facing Cam, thats more of a prefrence, but it will be big if skype brings video chat to android.
Advantages of HD7 are Big screen. Fast and great looking OS. Netflix (if your a member.) Zune and zune pass. The market is also growing really fast so the lack of apps will die especially when MS loosens up and let devs get access to more api.
If your gonna root i dont think it matters if a phone has sense or not because you can put a rom with it if you want it or a rom without it if you prefer stock.
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Advantages of of G2 are Keyboard and (almost) stock android IMO.
Advantages of MT4G are faster processor (and its been overclocked to, i run mine at 1.4ghz) More ram(786mb), more ram cant hurt. Front facing Cam, thats more of a prefrence, but it will be big if skype brings video chat to android.
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They've overclocked the G2 to 1.8GHz.
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They've overclocked the G2 to 1.8GHz.
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Same for the MT4G, I just run mine at 1.4ghz.
Well, I did have a chance to get the Mytouch 4g and, I got it in red.
Loving it so far. Thanks for all the great help!
G2. Dude why not get 4G speeds? Who wouldn't?
Im looking into picking a new phone, but like most of us I have a hard time deciding whats better to get after having the phone I thought was the greatest. So I Want to see what phone to get next, or what devices to consider, as well see what features to look for next, I was just happy when the Droid inc (1GHz processing power, 8MP Cam, and 512 MBs RAM) was announced and I still am when I look at and think about it. SO my question to the entire Community, What is the best phone, OS, ROM, Features, and why?
Phone EX: Nexus one, HTC EVO, HTC Touch Pro, LG Quantum
Custom built EX: HTC HD2 Running Windows phone 7,
Motorola Droid Running (Custom ROM or Stock)
or even a concept phone; 10MP Cam, Android 2.2, dual core, qwerty keyboard, etc.
Current:
PhoneInc, ROM:Incredible RMX 2
Tablet:Asus Transformer, ROM:Revolver
the only 2 phones worth considering are:
SGS2
Nexus 3
or wait another months for the next best phones to come out, but by then you can wait another 3 months, and then even better phones are around the corner
i made a spec sheet for iOS/Android/Windows phones in my sig.
please feel free to check it out and contribute if you can.
thanks.
hopefully this will help you in getting the right device this holiday season.
AllGamer said:
the only 2 phones worth considering are:
SGS2
Nexus 3
or wait another months for the next best phones to come out, but by then you can wait another 3 months, and then even better phones are around the corner
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lol I see your point, but there's nothing i'm that excited about. I do like the HTC rhyme, (if it wasn't purple). What are the specs on the Nexus 3?
aohus said:
i made a spec sheet for iOS/Android/Windows phones in my sig.
please feel free to check it out and contribute if you can.
thanks.
hopefully this will help you in getting the right device this holiday season.
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Thank you, I like the looks of the Sensation XE, But I'm in the US how can I get it on verizon? if you know, and that HTC Holiday, but again, verizon.
the Nexus 3 is basically SGS2 but with a 5MP camera instead of 8MP, but improved screen SAMOLED+ HD 720p resolution
tech spec for the SGS2 are everywhere
best phone
Hi
according to gsmarena is SAMSUNG GALAXY SII
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because it aggregates new processor technology bringing 2 cores concept.
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Hi
according to gsmarena is SAMSUNG GALAXY SII
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because it aggregates new processor technology bringing 2 cores concept.
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Let me help you out with that mate...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii-3621.php
Incidentally, to make it easier for people (till you get enough posts to post links), just change the http to hxxp. That seems like a commonly accepted way of posting links that aren't links (and it's easier for people to correct in their address bar!)
Nexus 3 is what I'm waiting for.. .iphone 5 is sounding real sexy too at the moment. Seems like it will be the thinnest phone once it releases.on top of its sexy teardrop all aluminum design reminiscent of the MacBook air from what I've read (all speculations)Too bad ios sucks!
Sticking to android and probably give wp7 a try once better phones are out.
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But giving up my 8MP cam and I've never really been to big a Samsung anything fan. But I do like the gorilla glass idea. And what are the best rumered specs about the Iphone 5 even thou I probably won't buy it?
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As much as I dislike HTC, the HTC titan is in a league of it's own as far as phones go. With processing power, it's not the absolute best. The thing is though, that only matters on an OS like android where it will only run remotely decent even with a top-end processor. Aside from that it sports a massive screen, ffc for video chat, solid body, up to 32 gigs internal, and most importantly windows phone 7. I'm sorry, but I don't buy high-end hardware to put an OS on it that was and is intended for crap hardware. My OS needs to keep up with me. Can I customize my phone to the point that it is unstable, slow, but reflects me? No. I can add numerous tiles with all kinds of pictures on a dynamic UI which totally beats a background image for me. Android is great if customization is your ONLY concern, for quality, speed, social integration, gaming,business, media, and pretty much anything else you'd be ripping yourself off if you went any way but the windows phone 7 way.
iphone5，next google phone
I honestly think that the Samsung Galaxy S II is the best phone out there, befor i bought it i read tons of comparisons and articles
Nexus prime with ics !!!!!!
Nexus Prime is supposed to be coming out in the next 2 weeks WITH ICS!!!!
I would personally want the MIUI phone / M1 but I doubt it will make it out of China.
abhi63 said:
Nexus Prime is supposed to be coming out in the next 2 weeks WITH ICS!!!!
I would personally want the MIUI phone / M1 but I doubt it will make it out of China.
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Whats the MIUI phone? the phone I used to want (though probably outdated now) was called the first else phone, and it was only sold in the middle east, but everyone seems to be on samsung now, I just cant be excited about that, esp since everything I would buy from them usually looks alot better than it preforms. The two phones that top my list now thou would be the Sensation XE, and the Rhyme(almost to the point where the color doesn't even matter)
But I have heard alot of good about the nexus prime. I just feel like if I actually knew how how to program it would be of that much more use to me.
You must smoke crack
z33dev33l said:
As much as I dislike HTC, the HTC titan is in a league of it's own as far as phones go. With processing power, it's not the absolute best. The thing is though, that only matters on an OS like android where it will only run remotely decent even with a top-end processor. Aside from that it sports a massive screen, ffc for video chat, solid body, up to 32 gigs internal, and most importantly windows phone 7. I'm sorry, but I don't buy high-end hardware to put an OS on it that was and is intended for crap hardware. My OS needs to keep up with me. Can I customize my phone to the point that it is unstable, slow, but reflects me? No. I can add numerous tiles with all kinds of pictures on a dynamic UI which totally beats a background image for me. Android is great if customization is your ONLY concern, for quality, speed, social integration, gaming,business, media, and pretty much anything else you'd be ripping yourself off if you went any way but the windows phone 7 way.
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Im looking into picking a new phone, but like most of us I have a hard time deciding whats better to get after having the phone I thought was the greatest. So I Want to see what phone to get next, or what devices to consider, as well see what features to look for next, I was just happy when the Droid inc (1GHz processing power, 8MP Cam, and 512 MBs RAM) was announced and I still am when I look at and think about it. SO my question to the entire Community, What is the best phone, OS, ROM, Features, and why?
Phone EX: Nexus one, HTC EVO, HTC Touch Pro, LG Quantum
Custom built EX: HTC HD2 Running Windows phone 7,
Motorola Droid Running (Custom ROM or Stock)
or even a concept phone; 10MP Cam, Android 2.2, dual core, qwerty keyboard, etc.
Current:
PhoneInc, ROM:Incredible RMX 2
Tablet:Asus Transformer, ROM:Revolver
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Stay away from WM7 on an HD2 if you want the card slot to survive. It will kill the card slot. Mine, I can run WM7, but if I try to flash Android or other ROMs, the card slot won't work. WM7 runs from the card in the slot excessively and wears it out. WM7 just isn't worth it.
Imho I have used the Samsung epic and also the EVO 4g (not the 3d) and have noticed that the EVO is by far the best one out of the two... Also the most customizable in the sense if being able to switch from sense 3.0 to 3.5 and to asop...
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b1337 said:
You must smoke crack
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not at all, I just know my stuff.
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not at all, I just know my stuff.
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well the only exception to your analogy is the sgs 2 or a totally stock/cyano/miui rom, according to my experience from my hd2 and captivate days. If it's sense, you can expect it to lagg, even when you have nothing on your homescreen.
That aside, I have to agree, WP7 is a great piece of work. Micro created a smooth, simple UI/OS that competes with apple in all those terms and maybe even better in some aspects. What Micro is "copying" from Apple is making phones that run on the "same specs". And the advantage to that is any app placed on the market will be able to run on all WP7 phones, unlike some android apps, which will work on a certain phone but not another.
What i don't like however is that really, all of them look the same (UI/appearance). It makes me feel like i don't have anything special. Which is the same with an iPhone(a stock one atleast). Atleast with android I can customize my status/notificaton bar, change my launcher layout/appearance, change certain effects e.g. overscroll glow to bouncy, change my lockscreen, change my icons, change my settings/menu appearance, which overall means i can have a phone that's different than the next or atleast appears different. (note also the lagg that you state coming from all this customization was atleast non apparent to me in my hd2 days, and for me now in my sgs 2)
Now I may be wrong about WP7 as i haven't even checked on the hacks/customization available since my HD2 days running WP7.
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I don't think so, you obviously have not done a genuine unbiased eval.