I'm not sure what is going on with my phone.
Since the 16th of January, my phone's data service appears to have crashed out.
Prior, it was working fine. I was running an old version of Perception with Firebird, and Phoenix with Firebird (2), using the I9000UGJL2 modem. I got ~~5.0Mbps down, 1.6Mbps up consistently on HSPA, and the more meek 3.8Mbps down, 1.5Mbps up on UMTS. Both times around 100-250ms ping.
All of a sudden on the 16th, my phone has now hit the crapper. Speedtest no longer reports me at my location (instead in either central Florida or northern Texas). On the download test, the dial will slowly rise to .06Mbps, then on the upload test either just not work and flash a token gesture .1Mbps or sit at 0 and then do a rapid bounce back and forth between ~~3Mbps and 0, usually reading at one of those extremes. My ping has also skyrocketed to upwards of 600ms for no reason. This is also indifferent to whether I'm using HSPA or UMTS.
Since this time, I've flashed several different modems and several different ROMs. All produce the same result, as does CWMing to some really old backups. I have mastercleared in between some of these, but it has done nothing.
I know it's not an error with the Speedtest app, because I can still do it on Wi-fi and it'll read as my home PC reads. My phone's internet browser reflects the same cause, taking upwards of 20 seconds to load Google mobile.
Anyone encountered anything similar or can explain why? The slowness is becoming inexcusable, and I can't use my phone on the network anymore for internet. I have to leave it on Wi-Fi to my disdain. At this rate, I'm leaving ATT the moment I'm given the chance. I'm not even close to going over my data allotment, so I don't really know what could possibly account for this.
att is in the middle of updating to 4g. Some more terrestrial areas are going to be sol fire a bit sadly. Where do you live?
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att is in the middle of updating to 4g. Some more terrestrial areas are going to be sol fire a bit sadly. Where do you live?
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Bridgewater, NJ. But this happens no matter where I am. Even if I approach NYC, it's still crap. I can't tell whether this is a network cap issue, a "phone is broken" issue or a "network is bloody awful" issue. It doesn't seem to be terrestrial, because I've taken it to Philadelphia and NYC and both places have been awful. Meanwhile, going out into the more rural bits still puts me on EDGE, which still yields the same reading (but that's the norm for me on 2G networks).
The key aspect here, I think, is that the readings are EXACTLY THE SAME regardless of the network mode that I am in. It's really confusing me.
I've noticed a determent in my speeds and ping as well. Before, I used to be able to get 3.5+mbps down and 2mbps up with 200ms and now I struggle to get 1mbps down and always end up with 1.5mbps up. In real world, it's more like 300kbps down and 300kbps up :/
I shouldn't be complaining but I live in the DC-Metro area and this determent has been getting WORSE for about two or three months. My ping right now is 600+ms and Speedtest NEVER catches my location right, it keeps saying I live in Kansas.
Have u tried manually changing the server on the speedtest app? I get better ping results from a server that is 600 miles away than a server that is 80 miles away.. just wondering :/
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Have u tried manually changing the server on the speedtest app? I get better ping results from a server that is 600 miles away than a server that is 80 miles away.. just wondering :/
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...Of course. lol That's the first thing you could do to improve it. AT&T Is shipping me a new Captivate (sucks that I have to reinstall all my apps on it :/) and i'm getting it by tomorrow. I can verify if it's a device problem or AT&T's network since I could assume if i'm having the same symptoms as OP and it's fixed by a device exchange...
Then the way to fix this problem is a call to AT&T (ask to be transferred to level 2 support)
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Have u tried manually changing the server on the speedtest app? I get better ping results from a server that is 600 miles away than a server that is 80 miles away.. just wondering :/
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Done it with my 2 local servers, the Kansas server, the Texas server, the Florida server and the Sydney NSW server (the last via my MobileAP tethered computer).
All the same uber-slow reading, ping generally gets worse as I go farther away. Nothing really out of the ordinary.
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Done it with my 2 local servers, the Kansas server, the Texas server, the Florida server and the Sydney NSW server (the last via my MobileAP tethered computer).
All the same uber-slow reading, ping generally gets worse as I go farther away. Nothing really out of the ordinary.
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Have you considered it might be your modem? It really sounds like it's connecting via EDGE or even GPRS o_o even when it shows a nice pretty H or 3G in the top right corner.
I came on XDA to talk specifically about this also. I am near the NYC area roughly 35 min north and my HSPA speeds have dropped and thought it was my phone crapping out on me. Speeds have lowered similar to the OPs post and I am guessing it is because of the new towers they are putting up since how drastically i've lost bars I tried switching basebands and making sure i'm solely on 850 and 1900 and also tried 850 alone. Well i'm glad it's not only me =] i'll keep you posted if it fixes itself.
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Have you considered it might be your modem? It really sounds like it's connecting via EDGE or even GPRS o_o even when it shows a nice pretty H or 3G in the top right corner.
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As said in original post, I've swapped through several modems and several masterclears. Both dialer codes and phone status show that I'm connected to the right networks relative to what it shows in the corner.
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As said in original post, I've swapped through several modems and several masterclears. Both dialer codes and phone status show that I'm connected to the right networks relative to what it shows in the corner.
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I have also, when did your problems start btw? mine have started today with the speed issue.
I had this issue a few weeks ago. I got a new captivate, and after a day of use it happened to my new phone. I called again and was sent to a store for a new SIM card. Problem solved. My SIM card was from 3 years ago, and I don't know how many phones. I thought they couldn't go bad, but that fixed my issue, no problems since.
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I had this issue a few weeks ago. I got a new captivate, and after a day of use it happened to my new phone. I called again and was sent to a store for a new SIM card. Problem solved. My SIM card was from 3 years ago, and I don't know how many phones. I thought they couldn't go bad, but that fixed my issue, no problems since.
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It happened to me also when I got a new captivate and tried using my sim and after getting a new one it worked flawlessly but this situation is different. I keep running speedtest and i'm getting erratic speeds sometimes i get 2mb/s down and then other it's barely 60kb/s, I feel like it definitely is a network issue near NYC. Only time will tell what it really is.
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I have also, when did your problems start btw? mine have started today with the speed issue.
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As stated in original post, January 16th, aka last Sunday.
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I had this issue a few weeks ago. I got a new captivate, and after a day of use it happened to my new phone. I called again and was sent to a store for a new SIM card. Problem solved. My SIM card was from 3 years ago, and I don't know how many phones. I thought they couldn't go bad, but that fixed my issue, no problems since.
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I have a new SIM from my phone's activation because my old one looked like there was quite a bit of wear on the contacts (4 years old, mind you, from the dawn of ATT's mainstream 3G release)... If this keeps up, I'll try to pester them for a new SIM again.
I have been having speed issues also but not sure it's related to your issues. I loaded Cog 3.03 on my phone to try it out. Prior to the load I was getting 1300 - 2500 up and 154 - 386 down. After I loaded Cognition it dropped to about 84 up and 40 down. I was going to go back to stock but thought I'd give it a try for a bit. It has slowly gone back up. Last night I got 2928 up and 314 down. The last 3 tries were all over 1300 up and 300 down. Not sure if it is phone or network related but I'm going to keep watching. Just tried a speedtest and got 1061 down and 73 up but I'm also on the 1st floor in the middle of my building. I'm going to let it go for a few days and see if I need to try tweaking anything or if the speeds settle out some. So far I'm pleased with Cognition. Thanks for the dev work.
I noticed all the 3g towers near me recently switched from 1900 to 850. Could it be that your non-us modem doesn't handle 850mhz band well and internally switched to edge? With stock modem, I can barely reach 200k upload speed.
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I have been having speed issues also but not sure it's related to your issues. I loaded Cog 3.03 on my phone to try it out. Prior to the load I was getting 1300 - 2500 up and 154 - 386 down. After I loaded Cognition it dropped to about 84 up and 40 down. I was going to go back to stock but thought I'd give it a try for a bit. It has slowly gone back up. Last night I got 2928 up and 314 down. The last 3 tries were all over 1300 up and 300 down. Not sure if it is phone or network related but I'm going to keep watching. Just tried a speedtest and got 1061 down and 73 up but I'm also on the 1st floor in the middle of my building. I'm going to let it go for a few days and see if I need to try tweaking anything or if the speeds settle out some. So far I'm pleased with Cognition. Thanks for the dev work.
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That could just be your phone getting "used" to ATT's network. I remember, when I first activated service with ATT, it took a long time for my phone to authenticate with the network, gradually shortening over time. Working under the assumption that you're doing this in Kbps, those speeds are actually disgusting. Your down speed is ridiculously low, and your up seems so variable. I think it's beyond a ROM issue; I've never experienced significant differences in ROM use and download speed, except when I first upgraded to HSUPA.
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I noticed all the 3g towers near me recently switched from 1900 to 850. Could it be that your non-us modem doesn't handle 850mhz band well and internally switched to edge? With stock modem, I can barely reach 200k upload speed.
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Nope, don't think so. I have GSM radios disabled on my phone: I forced WCDMA only via *#2263#. Forcing WCDMA 850 alone still produces the same result. As I had said, even after master clears (forgot to mention via OCD to JF6), I still came up with these lousy readings. Checking radio status via *#0011# tells me most of the time that I'm on 1900, so...
As an update to the situation, I've permanently switched to I9088ZNKP1. Still no change, other than marginally better ping. As this is nearly marking a week, I'm becoming very tempted to just drop ATT a line and ask them what the hell is going on and how I can fix it. I refuse to send my phone back though, proud 1007 owner, and the phone is in impeccable condition. Though I doubt they'll be able to help in any other capacity since us blokes here on XDA don't seem to be aware of what's going on here.
EDIT: Just got off the phone with ATT, surely enough they could not come up with a reason or an explanation; they removed and reinstated me on the network and still no change. Ah well, time to CWM backup and OCD back to JF6. Bringing my phone into the store.
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Has anyone had a problem today where your phone just cannot connect to ATT's 3G or HSPA network? For some reason, my phone is getting little-to-no signal, and if I do, it is only on GPRS... I CWM'd to my stable nandroid, but no dice, leading me to think that this problem is with the network.
What's XDA's thought on this? Possible dev issue?
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Att network just sucks.....I get good service everywhere but the places im at the most....my house and my job....go figure
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Their network is just pretty terrible right now. However, by summer we'll probably be singing a different tune about ATT's coverage when the iPhone user population will even out a bit. Also, I believe ATT threw down a few billion for network upgrades this year. It seems like they really took that Consumer Reports article to heart, so I actually see good things in the future.
i haven't had 3G in 24+ hours in NJ. stock, non-rooted.
Must be location specific; -51 dB and HSDPA in Dallas
It happens every now and then in las vegas usually right after a flash. I start to change modems and other stuff then realize "dammit I bet the network is screwed up" sure enough next day things are working again. Damn phone companys lol
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i haven't had 3G in 24+ hours in NJ. stock, non-rooted.
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You're quite close to where I am, it's probably regional then, but my old crappy phones' 3G is working fine though...
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funny thing metro pcs is working better than ATT in south florida. metro is known for bad bad reception
No problems with 3G at the places I frequent in the Tampa Bay area.
I've not had any problems with 3G connections this year.
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You're quite close to where I am, it's probably regional then, but my old crappy phones' 3G is working fine though...
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interesting.. i spent a few hours yesterday with my phone going in and out with GPRS and no network connection at all. i've had fairly consistent EDGE ever since. i normally see 5 bars of 3G at my current location (newark, NJ).
reboots and battery pulls seem to have no effect.
-99db & HSDPA here in Tampa Bay area.
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No AT&T 3G here...but I use edge network, get mostly 3 to 5 bars mostly indoors or outdoors depending on location. At my work, it's pretty good signal and get around 150-180kbps speed but at home is slower which is around 100-125kbps or slower, probably. I usually use wifi at my home with my own internet.
Out of Davenport, IA and I have great HSDPA signal running Perception 10.1 with the included 2.6.32.9 Firebird Kernel. I have flashed a bunch of DGs ROMs and never had issues with connectivity (voice or data).
I also get that the sim card.has been removed and its pissing me off.... btw, im on phoenix 3.5 with a setiron 1.5.6
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interesting.. i spent a few hours yesterday with my phone going in and out with GPRS and no network connection at all. i've had fairly consistent EDGE ever since. i normally see 5 bars of 3G at my current location (newark, NJ).
reboots and battery pulls seem to have no effect.
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I have 3G again, but regardless of HSPA or UMTS, I am getting .06Mbps down and about .4Mbps up. I have absolutely no idea why. I'm in Bridgewater, NJ.
I am in much the same predicament as you, reboots and pulls don't help. I've gone a step further and flashed 5 different ROMs today, no luck.
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actually my 3G just came back a few hours ago too. 2-4 Mbps down and about 0.3 Mbps up, which are normal 3G speeds for me. and i didn't do anything to my phone, 3G just magically reappeared after at least a full 24 hours of only EDGE. strange.
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I have 3G again, but regardless of HSPA or UMTS, I am getting .06Mbps down and about .4Mbps up. I have absolutely no idea why. I'm in Bridgewater, NJ.
I am in much the same predicament as you, reboots and pulls don't help. I've gone a step further and flashed 5 different ROMs today, no luck.
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It happens every now and then in las vegas usually right after a flash. I start to change modems and other stuff then realize "dammit I bet the network is screwed up" sure enough next day things are working again. Damn phone companys lol
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Las Vegas + ATT = terrible.
I just went on a 2 say trip there, took me 2 hours to download a 37kb attachment with full bars. I'd get 30 text messages at once an hour late, with full bars.
If I had to work on the strip I'd drop att in a heartbeat... that is totally unfunctional!!
I've been fine elsewhere... and maybe that's just a bad day /spot... but damn!
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actually my 3G just came back a few hours ago too. 2-4 Mbps down and about 0.3 Mbps up, which are normal 3G speeds for me. and i didn't do anything to my phone, 3G just magically reappeared after at least a full 24 hours of only EDGE. strange.
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My definition of normal is >3Mbps down, >1.5Mbps up... How is yours so different when you are so near? I get these speeds regardless if I'm on HSUPA or UMTS. I tend to use the latter to save battery.
The more I look, the more I think that ATT just capped my speeds 2 nights ago. This is crap. No modem change, nothing fixes it.
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We finally got 3G here and its expanding rapidly in this state which is a good thing. I would like to see new coverage plans after March 31st.
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So I been having problems with my data speeds since my bill cycle started over. I can't get speeds over .04-.05mbps anywhere! when I know I get 3.5-5.5 on a good day and area. I was throttled last bill cycle but now on this bill cycle I'm still at throttled speeds. I've called tmo already 3 nights in a row to see if they still had me throttled. They say I'm not throttled, they troubleshooted so I have a trouble ticket out right now. I'm just trying to see if I can get this fix myself. Tmo is lagging on calling me back. I need my 4g speeds back.the phone is horrible withou it and its killing me.
I just want if anyone with the factory unmodified apn settings can do me the favor of posting it up so I can match it with mine. I would really appreciate it.
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a quick reboot have always fixed that problem for me.
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a quick reboot have always fixed that problem for me.
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Done plenty of those.
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well changing the APn's will not adjust anything as far as speeds go. it's a connection problem between your phone and T-Mobile's servers. If you are that low and showing "h" on the not. bar then they still have you programmed as being throttled.
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well changing the APn's will not adjust anything as far as speeds go. it's a connection problem between your phone and T-Mobile's servers. If you are that low and showing "h" on the not. bar then they still have you programmed as being throttled.
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Yeah I do show the H on full bars. That's also what I been trying to explain to them, that only because it shows on their screen I'm not throttled doesn't me I'm not. I'm pretty sure they messed up some where. I just thought that probably the apn had some thing to do with it too. I'm just trying everything I can. They need real techs over there. Every one I spoke to seemed like they didn't know what the hell they wee doing and they were just reading off a page of instructions which I'm pretty sure they were.
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Yeah I do show the H on full bars. That's also what I been trying to explain to them, that only because it shows on their screen I'm not throttled doesn't me I'm not. I'm pretty sure they messed up some where. I just thought that probably the apn had some thing to do with it too. I'm just trying everything I can. They need real techs over there. Every one I spoke to seemed like they didn't know what the hell they wee doing and they were just reading off a page of instructions which I'm pretty sure they were.
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are you still at the same area where you used to get the much faster speeds? I've had the mt4g since January and even though I have the "H" and full bars in my city the speeds are always between .15 to .6Mbps down, while the upload is usually around 700Kbps. Got trouble tickets going and service calls until a network engineer showed up at my location to do some testing. Turns out I'm sitting about 40 feet away from the t-mo tower, but given their current configuration, those speeds are all I'm going to get until there's further tower upgrades! I can hop on the freeway and drive south for 20 minutes and find a signal that gives me speeds of 2 to 4Mbps, but too bad I don't live or work there. I was put through the tedious troubleshooting "steps" too, even went as far as visiting a t-mo store and doing side-by-side testing with my phone and two of their phones, switched sim cards twice too. All that drama just to be told that the tower is operating "normally" in its current configuration and that's all the speed I'm going to get for a long time.
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are you still at the same area where you used to get the much faster speeds? I've had the mt4g since January and even though I have the "H" and full bars in my city the speeds are always between .15 to .6Mbps down, while the upload is usually around 700Kbps. Got trouble tickets going and service calls until a network engineer showed up at my location to do some testing. Turns out I'm sitting about 40 feet away from the t-mo tower, but given their current configuration, those speeds are all I'm going to get until there's further tower upgrades! I can hop on the freeway and drive south for 20 minutes and find a signal that gives me speeds of 2 to 4Mbps, but too bad I don't live or work there. I was put through the tedious troubleshooting "steps" too, even went as far as visiting a t-mo store and doing side-by-side testing with my phone and two of their phones, switched sim cards twice too. All that drama just to be told that the tower is operating "normally" in its current configuration and that's all the speed I'm going to get for a long time.
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Yea I'm still in the same area where I used to get great 4g speeds. Basically most of los angeles has 4g so every where I went I had great speeds. Now every where i go is crappy.The thing is my girl and I are on the same contract and have the exact same plan. Her mt4g is lighting fast as it should be where mine is super slow in the same areas as her and we live together. At first I thought it was the sim card. I did a test where I put my sim in her phone and mine on hers then hers was getting crappy speed and I was getting great speeds. So I thought it was the sim issue every one was talking bout. So I went to a tmo store and they gave me a new sim. But still that didn't fix the problem. So now I knew that it wasn't a problem with the sim nor the device. That's when I really knew the problem was at their end.
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Wtf?
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it must be jaywan
Before I begin, I already have the latest updates and everything on my phone. Also, all tests were done at full bars connected to HSPA+.
As stated in the title, I have never gotten over 1.5 MB/s in a Speedtest. I tried my phone out in 10 different parts of my city today (San Jose) and always stayed under 1.5 MB/s.
What could be causing this issue? The SIM card I am using is from an old phone (like 5 months old, was from a Captivate), could that be the reason why? The AT&T rep said that is the reason, but I don't know if that is fully correct, since HSPA is just an installment to 3G and it isn't real 4G like LTE is. So it should work, right?
What other troubleshooting steps should I take?
That's better then me, I usually get below 1mbs.
Att network just really isn't all that great, and they could also be working on the network in your area as well.
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That's better then me, I usually get below 1mbs.
Att network just really isn't all that great, and they could also be working on the network in your area as well.
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I got higher network speeds in the same areas using my iPhone 3GS!!! I got around 2 MB/s using my 3GS, and it just seemed to drop once I got my Inspire. My speeds have always been this low for the Inspire.
It will also depend on load on the network. I average 1.5 mb/s but late at night early morning i get better then 2 mb/s. Ive seen people post better speeds then that but haven't seen them myself personally. To many things could be playing into this. But i don't think its the phone or sim. I think its ATT.
Just got 2890 kbps down with 345 kbps up. Ping was 169ms. That's a lot faster than anything I got with my eXpo.
I said "**** mobile data" a loooong time ago.
WiFi all the way, baby.
Between trying to figure out whether it's the phone, the rom, the radio, the ril, the build.prop, the area, the flock of birdies flying over head, or just good old ATT, you'll go nuts.
It is what it is.
Ideally, what you need to do, and it may not be possible for you now that you have the inspire, is test out your old phone, or at least borrow somebody's of the same model, side by side. Or another inspire, side by side. That'll at least answer a couple potential scenarios.
Get your SIM swapped at ATT. I've done that and it solved some issues. Sometimes they get goofy and need to be freshened up.
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Have you tried different radios to see which one works best for your area?
Did you already try pulling and re-inserting the battery?
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Awful data connectivity for the last week (Houston area) - Updt "Desperation sets in"
Anyone else getting horrid data connectivity on their TB? I usually never have data connectivity issues. In fact I was running just fine on the same ROM as recently as last week. But about 4 or 5 days ago, it went to total ****.
It has gotten so bad that I can't use 4g for more than 60 seconds. 3g is somewhat more reliable, but seems to drop down to 1x regularly.
I'm in the houston area and running BAMF Forever 1.09.
Do I need to get a sim replacement or something?
Try a new rom... I was using BAMF and noticed the same issue. Switched over to SHIFTAO5P with a Imoseyan kernel and haven't had any issues. Much snappier than the phone was previously and I haven't had any trouble with 4g. No trouble with data at all actually.
I am having issues too. Especially in buildings where I had a 3 bar 4g signal before, I am now not even picking up a 4g signal. Also, the 3g signal only reaches a bar at best. Almost like an antennae problem or something. But again, it just started within the last week. Co-inky-dink? (Detroit btw)
Running SOAB 1.3 in North Houston area, data has been spotty for awhile now, but not awful.
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i completely lost data this morning. dont know what happened. i switched to a rom i know was working and i am still having issues. i am at a lost on what to do, it must be a network issue
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Yes, so, desperation sets in rather quickly when your phone internet is garbage, I suppose I must be an addict.
I tried many things today:
-Flashed old radios
-ReFlashed new radios
-Flashed new rom
-Flashed old rom
-Pulling/Replacing the battery (don't laugh, I told you I was desperate)
-Drove around the city testing various areas for connection quality
-Went into the verizon store and demanded a SIM card replacement
Perhaps the most painful of the steps I took was the last one. While they were replacing my SIM and giving me odd looks for having a rooted system, I meandered over to the Rezound station. Big mistake. I downloaded speedtest and android terminal, and repeatedly ran the bandwidth test and pinged google from terminal.
Consistent 75ms ping to google, consistent 27mbps down 11mbps up.
I tried the same thing outside the store with my TB, so I could take advantage of any network smoke and mirrors they may be using
My TB: Consistent 220ms ping to google, inconsistent 4mbps down 0.5mbps up
How depressing that was. Nothing has worked. 4g has been unusable for over a week now and 3g is slow as a snail, and only slightly more reliable. I am convinced I have a marginally defective handset and there is nothing I can do to get my 4G back except pay for a new phone.
I might buy my ticket to the TB haters' ball while I'm at it.
Just curious, but why didn't you unroot and turn s-on before going to the store?
Good question, I did think about doing that but ultimately my laziness prevailed. First of all, I am not a serial flasher by nature so I find it somewhat inconvenient to be constantly re-setting-up my accounts/contacts/apps/lookandfeel.
I justified going into the store because I knew if I played dumb and insisted walking out of the store with my handset in hand, that there was likely nothing that would happen. Never underestimate the complacence of an employee on commission who is doing something for you that does not involve earning a commission.
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Try a new rom... I was using BAMF and noticed the same issue. Switched over to SHIFTAO5P with a Imoseyan kernel and haven't had any issues. Much snappier than the phone was previously and I haven't had any trouble with 4g. No trouble with data at all actually.
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What radio are you using and does SHIFTAO5P have permission revocation as well as an uncrippled bluetooth stack (keyboard, wiimote, ps3 support).
So , I got my refurb on Saturday and I confirmed that the issue was hardware related. I did one final test to make sure. My setup was:
Both phones:
no SD card
stock GB MR (unrooted)
same sim card
Fresh wipe/update install
same battery
I installed Speedtest.net (Houston, TX comcast test server) and terminal emulator on both phones and sat in the same chair in my house for testing both phones (had to do 1 at a time due to sim card and battery, obviously).
My first phone (defective):
Speedtest server ping: ~220ms
Speedtest down speed: 500kbps
speedtest up speed: 400kbps
google.com ping: ~180ms, 5% packets dropped.
note: 4g connection indicator (in status bar) would drop randomly during speedtest, also about 2 of the speedtest attempts failed with "connection error"
Refurb:
Speedtest server ping: ~80ms
Speedtest down speed: 26000kbps
speedtest up speed: 9000kbps
google.com ping: ~80ms, 0% packets dropped.
no errors
Ran the test 5 times on each phone in a row, results were clear as day, my original unit somehow got ****ed up 4g hardware.
mthe0ry said:
Anyone else getting horrid data connectivity on their TB? I usually never have data connectivity issues. In fact I was running just fine on the same ROM as recently as last week. But about 4 or 5 days ago, it went to total ****.
It has gotten so bad that I can't use 4g for more than 60 seconds. 3g is somewhat more reliable, but seems to drop down to 1x regularly.
I'm in the houston area and running BAMF Forever 1.09.
Do I need to get a sim replacement or something?
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I have a similar issue as the OP. I was going to start a thread. My issues are a little more of the data connection on/off every 10 seconds. I'm actually flashing the newest shift AOSP now. If this doesn't go away... I will kill...
I'm having the same issues as both op and the poster in post #11. I may try for another refurb, but I'm not sure. I tried that route once before and all three were junk. I think this phone has turned into a major fail by htc.
1454 said:
I'm having the same issues as both op and the poster in post #11. I may try for another refurb, but I'm not sure. I tried that route once before and all three were junk. I think this phone has turned into a major fail by htc.
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I unrooted a couple weeks ago as I was rooted from launch date, started at mr1 and took the otas and the connection seems to be more stable for whatever reason. Even though I had run just a basic rooted 2.11.605.5 ROM with the ota radios.
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I'm over in the NY area and ever since I woke up from work this morning I have been unable to keep a cellular data lock for more than 30 seconds (3g or 4g). I am rooted and am using a custom ROM, but I haven't changed it in nearly 4 months (haven't even updated it).
-x1
I sell vzw for a franchise/premium retailer and I have noticed on my phone first and then on everyone I know/see that has htc's I've noticed that even down to the incredible, incredible 2, and of course the thunderbolt. I honestly haven't checked the rezound but plan to if someone buys one or I have time to test it.
Basically 4G only gets under 4 mbps and 3G phones only get 3 mbps and under. Sometimes averaging around 1 mbps.
According to HTC its a network issue. I said,"how could it be a network issue if the other 4G phones like the Motorola's more specificly like the bionic I have next to my thunderbolt is running 14-18 mbps!"
Verizon says its not a network issue and I was right it is pretty obvious. They said it's a phone issue and it's the first they've heard of it.
I personally believe it has something to do with the back cover antenna. And I also can't help noticing how cheap they are and how they seem to be trying to get rid of more lately. Yes it can very well be because its almost a year that its been out and I'm sure there's somewhere I'm not looking where it shows its planned life time.
I just want to make sure there isn't a software issue going on here or if its a hardware/"dare I say it, defect" with these phones.
Now I will say I have this verified by people I know that travel through and/to Pittsburgh for school and work. It does appear that with more towers downtown u do get a lot of signal bombarding ur phone and they pull about 8mbps. Bionic was going 14-18 mbps all over my area and would imagine it stays strong in the city too.
I'm running cm7 and I got friends running all kinds of roms for there thunderbolts all same results and unrooted users/store phone sent straight from htc/random traffic in the store all get the same bad results. Hope this helps and comments are a must please.
-theZEEKone
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Could be a radio issue I am still on MR2 ota this was done side by side with a Rezound at VZW store and both got similar speeds. And this is one of the slower speeds I have ever got as well.
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Here's my speed test....looks fine to me..
Well i can't post pics yet but my test is normal for me, 10 down 2 up
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Mine is over 4mb.
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LTE 4G Rezound
I had my TB since March of this year, and I didn't have 4G to pick up until they expanded here. While my phone would originally pick up 4G, it stopped picking it up unless the signal was very strong, like in a Verizon store where they have the repeaters. My wife's TB would pick up 4G if it was anywhere around, and would smoke my phone for data speeds every time. I had changed the SIM card, which had no noticeable effect, and finally sent it back under warranty and got a replacement. Of course, I had to unroot and restore to stock, but my replacement is as good as it should have been all along.
To the OP, It may be a situation where you have some HTC phones that have poor signal issues like mine had. My original TB could have had the issue all along, but I was not aware because of how well the phone handled everything else, and the fact that it DID pick up 4G, just not very well.
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Oh, to add to this, my old TB would only get data speeds averaging 4-5 MB/s down with 4G, and my wife's would get 17-26 MB/s side by side. My replacement gets 15-17 MB/s down and 8-10 MB/s up with the 906 radio. Wife's radio is 508/510 combo, I believe.
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Could be a radio issue I am still on MR2 ota this was done side by side with a Rezound at VZW store and both got similar speeds. And this is one of the slower speeds I have ever got as well.
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Uhh youre on wifi there buddy. I think he was talking about the 4G/3G data speeds.
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Uhh youre on wifi there buddy. I think he was talking about the 4G/3G data speeds.
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Uhh he used 4G for the test as stated by the network and IP's in the picture. He just took the picture while using WiFi.
Two things I've noticed on my phone.....one is all gingerbread roms with any radio i have tried slow my speed way down except the latest shiftao5p, its decent with it. With gingerbread roms i only get about 3-5 mbps but with any froyo rom including the very first build i get at least 15mbps.
Secondly, i bought a cheap extended battery off eBay and the cheap battery cover has a cheap antenna in it. It wouldn't pick up 4g most of the time. I put a small piece of aluminum foil on the antenna prongs and put the cover back on and that helped, it would at least pick up 4g after that. With the seidio battey and cover it picks up great. So watch hose cheap extended battery covers.
The speedtest app everyone's been using seems to have inadequate test servers. I routinely get ~15Mb/s from them. Using http://speakeasy.net/speedtest, I frequently see TWICE the speed. Let me upload some screenshots from my phone. Not sure if there's "proof" that it's from my phone though, but rest assured, it is. My home 'net speed is 6Mb/s so it ain't from that connection !!
Here we go...
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The speedtest app everyone's been using seems to have inadequate test servers. I routinely get ~15Mb/s from them. Using http://speakeasy.net/speedtest, I frequently see TWICE the speed. Let me upload some screenshots from my phone. Not sure if there's "proof" that it's from my phone though, but rest assured, it is. My home 'net speed is 6Mb/s so it ain't from that connection !!
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Holy crap! You are correct man! I didn't realize Verizon's network was so good here!
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Try different 'locations' from the Speakeasy site too.
FWIW, the 33Mb/s is the highest I've ever seen myself.
Yes, in fact just last week I got a Certified Like New replacement for my TBolt for this very problem. It was resolved immediately with the new device.
I had tried replacing sim card, replacing back door, replacing battery, flashing various roms and radios, and a full restore to stock with s-on; nothing worked for the defective device.
My 4g speed degraded gradually over a period of a few weeks and became dramatically worse and practically unusable in a span of a few days at the end of it.
When I got my CLN, I had both the replacement and my original unit side by side in the same spot in my house and ran speedtest on the same server using 4g, same sim card, same rom (Stock GB MR), same radio, no SD card, no installed apps.
The difference was black and white, the original was total **** (several times failing to even complete the test due to "network issues") and the replacement was hitting ~25Mbps down.
Long story short, the TB 4g hardware can spontaneously start to fail. It's for that reason I'm contemplating getting insurance once my mfg warranty wears out. I love the character of this phone but I think some of the engineering behind it might be third rate.
More details in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348220
mthe0ry said:
Long story short, the TB 4g hardware can spontaneously start to fail. It's for that reason I'm contemplating getting insurance once my mfg warranty wears out. I love the character of this phone but I think some of the engineering behind it might be third rate.
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Spontaneously start to fail... third rate engineering... Hope I don't run into that
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