I sell vzw for a franchise/premium retailer and I have noticed on my phone first and then on everyone I know/see that has htc's I've noticed that even down to the incredible, incredible 2, and of course the thunderbolt. I honestly haven't checked the rezound but plan to if someone buys one or I have time to test it.
Basically 4G only gets under 4 mbps and 3G phones only get 3 mbps and under. Sometimes averaging around 1 mbps.
According to HTC its a network issue. I said,"how could it be a network issue if the other 4G phones like the Motorola's more specificly like the bionic I have next to my thunderbolt is running 14-18 mbps!"
Verizon says its not a network issue and I was right it is pretty obvious. They said it's a phone issue and it's the first they've heard of it.
I personally believe it has something to do with the back cover antenna. And I also can't help noticing how cheap they are and how they seem to be trying to get rid of more lately. Yes it can very well be because its almost a year that its been out and I'm sure there's somewhere I'm not looking where it shows its planned life time.
I just want to make sure there isn't a software issue going on here or if its a hardware/"dare I say it, defect" with these phones.
Now I will say I have this verified by people I know that travel through and/to Pittsburgh for school and work. It does appear that with more towers downtown u do get a lot of signal bombarding ur phone and they pull about 8mbps. Bionic was going 14-18 mbps all over my area and would imagine it stays strong in the city too.
I'm running cm7 and I got friends running all kinds of roms for there thunderbolts all same results and unrooted users/store phone sent straight from htc/random traffic in the store all get the same bad results. Hope this helps and comments are a must please.
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Could be a radio issue I am still on MR2 ota this was done side by side with a Rezound at VZW store and both got similar speeds. And this is one of the slower speeds I have ever got as well.
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Here's my speed test....looks fine to me..
Well i can't post pics yet but my test is normal for me, 10 down 2 up
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Mine is over 4mb.
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I had my TB since March of this year, and I didn't have 4G to pick up until they expanded here. While my phone would originally pick up 4G, it stopped picking it up unless the signal was very strong, like in a Verizon store where they have the repeaters. My wife's TB would pick up 4G if it was anywhere around, and would smoke my phone for data speeds every time. I had changed the SIM card, which had no noticeable effect, and finally sent it back under warranty and got a replacement. Of course, I had to unroot and restore to stock, but my replacement is as good as it should have been all along.
To the OP, It may be a situation where you have some HTC phones that have poor signal issues like mine had. My original TB could have had the issue all along, but I was not aware because of how well the phone handled everything else, and the fact that it DID pick up 4G, just not very well.
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Oh, to add to this, my old TB would only get data speeds averaging 4-5 MB/s down with 4G, and my wife's would get 17-26 MB/s side by side. My replacement gets 15-17 MB/s down and 8-10 MB/s up with the 906 radio. Wife's radio is 508/510 combo, I believe.
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Could be a radio issue I am still on MR2 ota this was done side by side with a Rezound at VZW store and both got similar speeds. And this is one of the slower speeds I have ever got as well.
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Uhh youre on wifi there buddy. I think he was talking about the 4G/3G data speeds.
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Uhh youre on wifi there buddy. I think he was talking about the 4G/3G data speeds.
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Uhh he used 4G for the test as stated by the network and IP's in the picture. He just took the picture while using WiFi.
Two things I've noticed on my phone.....one is all gingerbread roms with any radio i have tried slow my speed way down except the latest shiftao5p, its decent with it. With gingerbread roms i only get about 3-5 mbps but with any froyo rom including the very first build i get at least 15mbps.
Secondly, i bought a cheap extended battery off eBay and the cheap battery cover has a cheap antenna in it. It wouldn't pick up 4g most of the time. I put a small piece of aluminum foil on the antenna prongs and put the cover back on and that helped, it would at least pick up 4g after that. With the seidio battey and cover it picks up great. So watch hose cheap extended battery covers.
The speedtest app everyone's been using seems to have inadequate test servers. I routinely get ~15Mb/s from them. Using http://speakeasy.net/speedtest, I frequently see TWICE the speed. Let me upload some screenshots from my phone. Not sure if there's "proof" that it's from my phone though, but rest assured, it is. My home 'net speed is 6Mb/s so it ain't from that connection !!
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The speedtest app everyone's been using seems to have inadequate test servers. I routinely get ~15Mb/s from them. Using http://speakeasy.net/speedtest, I frequently see TWICE the speed. Let me upload some screenshots from my phone. Not sure if there's "proof" that it's from my phone though, but rest assured, it is. My home 'net speed is 6Mb/s so it ain't from that connection !!
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Holy crap! You are correct man! I didn't realize Verizon's network was so good here!
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Try different 'locations' from the Speakeasy site too.
FWIW, the 33Mb/s is the highest I've ever seen myself.
Yes, in fact just last week I got a Certified Like New replacement for my TBolt for this very problem. It was resolved immediately with the new device.
I had tried replacing sim card, replacing back door, replacing battery, flashing various roms and radios, and a full restore to stock with s-on; nothing worked for the defective device.
My 4g speed degraded gradually over a period of a few weeks and became dramatically worse and practically unusable in a span of a few days at the end of it.
When I got my CLN, I had both the replacement and my original unit side by side in the same spot in my house and ran speedtest on the same server using 4g, same sim card, same rom (Stock GB MR), same radio, no SD card, no installed apps.
The difference was black and white, the original was total **** (several times failing to even complete the test due to "network issues") and the replacement was hitting ~25Mbps down.
Long story short, the TB 4g hardware can spontaneously start to fail. It's for that reason I'm contemplating getting insurance once my mfg warranty wears out. I love the character of this phone but I think some of the engineering behind it might be third rate.
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Long story short, the TB 4g hardware can spontaneously start to fail. It's for that reason I'm contemplating getting insurance once my mfg warranty wears out. I love the character of this phone but I think some of the engineering behind it might be third rate.
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Spontaneously start to fail... third rate engineering... Hope I don't run into that
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So I been having problems with my data speeds since my bill cycle started over. I can't get speeds over .04-.05mbps anywhere! when I know I get 3.5-5.5 on a good day and area. I was throttled last bill cycle but now on this bill cycle I'm still at throttled speeds. I've called tmo already 3 nights in a row to see if they still had me throttled. They say I'm not throttled, they troubleshooted so I have a trouble ticket out right now. I'm just trying to see if I can get this fix myself. Tmo is lagging on calling me back. I need my 4g speeds back.the phone is horrible withou it and its killing me.
I just want if anyone with the factory unmodified apn settings can do me the favor of posting it up so I can match it with mine. I would really appreciate it.
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a quick reboot have always fixed that problem for me.
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a quick reboot have always fixed that problem for me.
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Done plenty of those.
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well changing the APn's will not adjust anything as far as speeds go. it's a connection problem between your phone and T-Mobile's servers. If you are that low and showing "h" on the not. bar then they still have you programmed as being throttled.
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well changing the APn's will not adjust anything as far as speeds go. it's a connection problem between your phone and T-Mobile's servers. If you are that low and showing "h" on the not. bar then they still have you programmed as being throttled.
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Yeah I do show the H on full bars. That's also what I been trying to explain to them, that only because it shows on their screen I'm not throttled doesn't me I'm not. I'm pretty sure they messed up some where. I just thought that probably the apn had some thing to do with it too. I'm just trying everything I can. They need real techs over there. Every one I spoke to seemed like they didn't know what the hell they wee doing and they were just reading off a page of instructions which I'm pretty sure they were.
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Yeah I do show the H on full bars. That's also what I been trying to explain to them, that only because it shows on their screen I'm not throttled doesn't me I'm not. I'm pretty sure they messed up some where. I just thought that probably the apn had some thing to do with it too. I'm just trying everything I can. They need real techs over there. Every one I spoke to seemed like they didn't know what the hell they wee doing and they were just reading off a page of instructions which I'm pretty sure they were.
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are you still at the same area where you used to get the much faster speeds? I've had the mt4g since January and even though I have the "H" and full bars in my city the speeds are always between .15 to .6Mbps down, while the upload is usually around 700Kbps. Got trouble tickets going and service calls until a network engineer showed up at my location to do some testing. Turns out I'm sitting about 40 feet away from the t-mo tower, but given their current configuration, those speeds are all I'm going to get until there's further tower upgrades! I can hop on the freeway and drive south for 20 minutes and find a signal that gives me speeds of 2 to 4Mbps, but too bad I don't live or work there. I was put through the tedious troubleshooting "steps" too, even went as far as visiting a t-mo store and doing side-by-side testing with my phone and two of their phones, switched sim cards twice too. All that drama just to be told that the tower is operating "normally" in its current configuration and that's all the speed I'm going to get for a long time.
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are you still at the same area where you used to get the much faster speeds? I've had the mt4g since January and even though I have the "H" and full bars in my city the speeds are always between .15 to .6Mbps down, while the upload is usually around 700Kbps. Got trouble tickets going and service calls until a network engineer showed up at my location to do some testing. Turns out I'm sitting about 40 feet away from the t-mo tower, but given their current configuration, those speeds are all I'm going to get until there's further tower upgrades! I can hop on the freeway and drive south for 20 minutes and find a signal that gives me speeds of 2 to 4Mbps, but too bad I don't live or work there. I was put through the tedious troubleshooting "steps" too, even went as far as visiting a t-mo store and doing side-by-side testing with my phone and two of their phones, switched sim cards twice too. All that drama just to be told that the tower is operating "normally" in its current configuration and that's all the speed I'm going to get for a long time.
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Yea I'm still in the same area where I used to get great 4g speeds. Basically most of los angeles has 4g so every where I went I had great speeds. Now every where i go is crappy.The thing is my girl and I are on the same contract and have the exact same plan. Her mt4g is lighting fast as it should be where mine is super slow in the same areas as her and we live together. At first I thought it was the sim card. I did a test where I put my sim in her phone and mine on hers then hers was getting crappy speed and I was getting great speeds. So I thought it was the sim issue every one was talking bout. So I went to a tmo store and they gave me a new sim. But still that didn't fix the problem. So now I knew that it wasn't a problem with the sim nor the device. That's when I really knew the problem was at their end.
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Nigga sack butt plug option94 stolen rom ****
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Wtf?
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it must be jaywan
so!
got the samsung galaxy 4g the day it came out. i had actually gotten the g2 originally, and 13 days later, this phone came out and after holding it in my hands i had to have it. it was just... sexy.
so the day i got it i was so happy. i ended up paying nothing for it through a weird fluke situation on tmobiles part, which made it even better.
then the troubles started.
in getting the new phone i knew that although this phone boasts the speeds that it does there was no way i was going to get those speeds. i do a speed test. at the tmobile store (1/4 a mile away from a tower on a tuesday afternoon around 2 pm) i get ..... 0.03 down and 0 up.
....k.
so i give it some time to get used to my sim card and my usage. that's when i notice the battery. i had to charge my phone two times a day on light usage. i turn off all synching, including my google calendar and contacts to see if that helps the battery. meh, a little. but i'm still charging it at least halfway through the day, and i am not able to use my phone at work. that means from the time i unplug it ten minutes before i leave for work until 6 pm (11 hours later) my battery is at roughly 20% ... and i've done nothing on the phone whatsoever. i'm super sad about the battery life and still getting sad speed tests on my "4g".
then about a week after purchase more problems kick in.
pretty soon my picture messages aren't coming through. it's giving me messages i'm used to seeing on my iphone, something about the message size being too big to download (sorry, the wording has left my mind now that i am trying to document it all for you guys).
then i start getting no texts. and sending them is a joke. if i have less than three bars (i usually have two at home and my work building) i am not able to send. it will try and give me a failed message. pulling out the battery will usually fix it, but after a couple of weeks of that it gets used to that fix and doesn't work at all.
i go into the tmobile store.
they switch out my sim (which we had done once before) and at this point my phone doesn't recognize the new sim. the rep tells me i broke my phone (even though my phone at least recognized the previous sim) and tells me that i'll need a new phone, offering to sell me one for cheap. i leave, pretty irritated at the dude.
i go to work, call 611, they tell me my IMEI has never been active on my account. we activate it and lo and behold, my phone recognizes the sim (mmhmm). but still sending messages is still a joke. out of 10 messages i can usually get one to send. it's a sad ratio of sent to failed.
in addition, i am still charging my battery at least once to twice a day with hardly any usage whatsoever (what good is using a phone that never has service anyway?). i've turned off wifi at all times, 4g is off, everything synching is off. i'll take out the sim and put it in my iphone so that it's not constantly searching for service (which texting worked just fine on my iphone) and it STILL dies by the end of my work day - i am lucky if i get 12 hours of standby before having to charge it. i condition my battery with no luck.. it still sucks. i root it and set SetCPU to underclock down to 200mhz when idle just to see if that will help the battery. i get about 14 hours of standby on that.
so, after all of this and about two months later, i finally got a replacement phone today. after looking at the back of the new phone and the old one i discover something interesting...
my sim contacts have been broken this whole time! sad!
( i was going to link to the pic but can't since i'm a new user. )
now, has this new phone fixed my issue? well, for one i'm getting 4g speeds at my place (i live in downtown SLC, i should be getting them here!) for the first time ever and have yet to come across a "failed" message when sending texts. only time will tell but mostly i want to post this to let you know.. if you are having this issue this is NOT normal. talk to tmobile. troubleshoot what you need to and get that mother replaced!
(i'll report back on battery life tomorrow.)
Consider yourself lucky. I live in Murray, phone says 4G but my Vibrant pulls faster speeds on 3g. Lol
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Honestly man I was in SLC a couple weeks ago with my 4g and the speed sucked compaired to here in Reno... I get 7mb up and 1.8 up avg with much higher peaks in Reno. Even at the gateway downtown SLC the 4g sucked at about 3mb upload and 750k up.
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i need a new city
Vegas here. Even though they say we are one of the new turned up cities I'm still only getting 7mb down and 1.5 up on a typical day.
Here's something interesting though, when I upgraded from my G1 to my SGS4G they were supposed to update my data plan.
Logged into my TMO account and it still shows the G1 Unlimited data. Paying $25 instead of the $30.
My wife has a MT4G and her account did get upgraded to the 4G Unlimited data plan for $30 a month.
Possible my phone isn't going to get higher speeds based on the data plan still in my account? I'm doubting it, but I guess it's possible.
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Vegas here. Even though they say we are one of the new turned up cities I'm still only getting 7mb down and 1.5 up on a typical day.
Here's something interesting though, when I upgraded from my G1 to my SGS4G they were supposed to update my data plan.
Logged into my TMO account and it still shows the G1 Unlimited data. Paying $25 instead of the $30.
My wife has a MT4G and her account did get upgraded to the 4G Unlimited data plan for $30 a month.
Possible my phone isn't going to get higher speeds based on the data plan still in my account? I'm doubting it, but I guess it's possible.
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i still have the g1 data plan as well, i wonder if that does have anything to do with it. i kinda don't want to ask though, the 5 bucks a month is small but nice to not pay
p.s. for all interested, my battery is at 48% with pretty consistent usage and synching on all day. schweet!
I would have callers t mobile right away and gotten a new phone overnight. I am not too trusting of in store employees. Most don't know how to troubleshoot a phone.
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You can have my city.... except I don't have a city.... it's just a trailer park in the middle of nowhere. But then I get better speed here than I can in the nearest two cities, a ripping 16KB/SEC on a good day, on "AMERICAS LARGEST 4G NETWORK" I spend almost as much time downloading as I do talking to tech support. Then that's another story.
Your data plan will not affect your data speeds in any way.
As for the phone showing 4G and having another 3G device pulling better speeds. The cause is that you are not in a true 4G area. The GS4G does not have an icon for 3G, even if it did, the phone cannot distinguish between 3G or 4G due to the fact that HSPA+ is still 3G hardware on the tower, but provides 4G speeds via software in the base station and the backhaul of the network.
I don't see how you are getting such bad speeds. I live in Kaysville, only 20 minutes from SLC and my average DL speed is usually around 5.0mb/s. The fastest I have gotten over 4g so far is 8.8mb/s.
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I don't see how you are getting such bad speeds. I live in Kaysville, only 20 minutes from SLC and my average DL speed is usually around 5.0mb/s. The fastest I have gotten over 4g so far is 8.8mb/s.
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If you are lucky enough to have a 3 or 4G tower in your area you will likely have good download speed. My download speed sucks. TMO's network is full of holes.... DEAD zones. Even in large areas like Los Angeles, CA. They have a long way to go before their network will catch up with the others.
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Your data plan will not affect your data speeds in any way.
As for the phone showing 4G and having another 3G device pulling better speeds. The cause is that you are not in a true 4G area. The GS4G does not have an icon for 3G, even if it did, the phone cannot distinguish between 3G or 4G due to the fact that HSPA+ is still 3G hardware on the tower, but provides 4G speeds via software in the base station and the backhaul of the network.
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I'm confused by this due to my dell streak 7 actually showing 3g and 4g at different times.
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Your data plan will not affect your data speeds in any way.
As for the phone showing 4G and having another 3G device pulling better speeds. The cause is that you are not in a true 4G area. The GS4G does not have an icon for 3G, even if it did, the phone cannot distinguish between 3G or 4G due to the fact that HSPA+ is still 3G hardware on the tower, but provides 4G speeds via software in the base station and the backhaul of the network.
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I actually get 3g , 4g, edge, and g.
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I actually get 3g , 4g, edge, and g.
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The GS4G does not even have an icon to represent 3G.
Please, if you can, provide a screenshot.
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The GS4G does not even have an icon to represent 3G.
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I will have to do it Monday, cause it only happens when I leave my office building. When I am in my office building I will often go into data roaming through at&t. This may have something to do with why it shows up. But it is there.
If you truly doubt it. Go to the market and download ninja morph. Then use it to make a copy of your framework-res.APK. From there open the COPY that you made. Look in framework-res.apk\res\drawable-hdpi-v4
Do not try and look in the actual phones framework-res.apk. Because it will break a couple things and you will have to re-flash. But if you make the copy it will automatically extract the apk and you can view the files with your computer.
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The GS4G does not even have an icon to represent 3G.
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that my friend, you are wrong on.
I get the 3G icon on my elevator everyday before and after work.
4g
I always get 4g in the missouri area and I get 13mbps
Phone was fine, sleeping. Tried waking up and nothing. Tried again nothing. So I figured crap it's shut itself off and won't turn on. So battery pull and turned it back on. Then boom! Get's to the T-Mobile G2X logo and then just freezes there. WTF???
For a while I thought that was it, I pulled battery yet again.
Turned back on and now it booted up ok. WTF is going on with this? I've never seen these type of issues with other phones. What could cause this? Almost seems like a hardware issue because I used it all day today for about 10h with no issues.
So I got the phone at 4PM yesterday.
- Worked fine from 4PM - 11PM. I rebooted myself. Started up fine and then rebooted at 11:30PM
- Worked fine rest of night and went to bed at 2AM...was charging all night, woke up and used it fine. 8:30AM rebooted.
- Used it all day at work and no issue. Was using it while walking the dog at like 6PMish and boom reboot.
- Used it since 6PM and then it just did the hard lock/screen off thing that required 2 battery pulls to revive it.
Before this last what is essentially a crash, I had GPS turned off so that didn't help. I've turned it back on.
In all these situations I had WiFi calling enabled so I'm now trying with WiFi calling disabled and see if I still have issues.
I'm giving this phone a week because I love it so much but if I can't get it stable it's going back and I'll have to go back to VZW and my Incredible. Major bummer
Have none of those issues. Might have a defective phone. And u were a verizon customer and didn't get the TB? Verizon LTE blows everyone... way faster than Tmo.. I have both lol so I know what I'm talking. G2x faster tho but TB faster network. Downloads and browsing
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Have none of those issues. Might have a defective phone. And u were a verizon customer and didn't get the TB? Verizon LTE blows everyone... way faster than Tmo.. I have both lol so I know what I'm talking. G2x faster tho but TB faster network. Downloads and browsing
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Ummm... I got 12Mbps on MyTouch4G on T-Mo's network - my buddy has the TB and has yet to pass 9. If this phone had HSPA+ 21, I imagine I'd be able to eek out 17 or 18 on T-Mo.
Anyway yeah I don't have any issues with mine other than things that were my own stupidity (skipping the Google login and trying to set it up later which broke wifi calling and market access over wifi and required a factory reset to fix). Its an amazing device!
Yeah, I'm all clean here too. I'm not experiencing anything negative and been using the phone all day. Fantastic device, glad I got it.
Sounds like you got a lemon and need to try another before you trash it s having serious problems.....
Try again there's always bad ones out the batch.
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Ummm... I got 12Mbps on MyTouch4G on T-Mo's network - my buddy has the TB and has yet to pass 9. If this phone had HSPA+ 21, I imagine I'd be able to eek out 17 or 18 on T-Mo.
Anyway yeah I don't have any issues with mine other than things that were my own stupidity (skipping the Google login and trying to set it up later which broke wifi calling and market access over wifi and required a factory reset to fix). Its an amazing device!
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on my tb i hit 16-even 20mbps lol i haven't touch over 8mbps on my g2x yet and upload speeds are much better with verizon
Those of you not having problems. Are you all using Wifi calling? Do you have network mode to auto, GSM or wcdma?
CNN just updated their app so maybe that'll help me if that was the culprit.
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Have none of those issues. Might have a defective phone. And u were a verizon customer and didn't get the TB? Verizon LTE blows everyone... way faster than Tmo.. I have both lol so I know what I'm talking. G2x faster tho but TB faster network. Downloads and browsing
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Ummm... I got 12Mbps on MyTouch4G on T-Mo's network - my buddy has the TB and has yet to pass 9. If this phone had HSPA+ 21, I imagine I'd be able to eek out 17 or 18 on T-Mo.
Anyway yeah I don't have any issues with mine other than things that were my own stupidity (skipping the Google login and trying to set it up later which broke wifi calling and market access over wifi and required a factory reset to fix). Its an amazing device!
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I also have the thunderbolt and the nexus s and I previously owned the mytouch 4g. And verizon 4g is spectacular to say the least. I have downloads speeds as high as 20mbs on a consistent basis. Tmobile can not compete with verizon service. But tmobile does offer a great value, and has stellar customer service.
Meh, idk. I use both and while Verizon 4g is currently fast, not always faster, that wont last. On 3g, Verizon is much slower.
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Maybe you could edit the title to say "My Phone" even though some others share your grief. It would appear not all does. .....thus far.
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on my tb i hit 16-even 20mbps lol i haven't touch over 8mbps on my g2x yet and upload speeds are much better with verizon
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And if T-Mobile had gone with a better chipset (21-42Mbps instead of the same 14.4 that the G2 has - mind you the Vibrant 4G has 21Mbps HSPA and my buddy regularly gets similar speeds to yours - 17-19 down and about 2.4 up) for the baseband, it would be a non-issue. T-Mobile has a smaller network and thus more backhaul than Verizon. Also, using the AWS band, T-Mobile can support more calls and data connections per tower than Verizon can on the 700 band. Its just the way that the spectrum works. 700MHz broadcasts further but can't handle as many connections as 1700 can but 1700 requires more towers for sufficient coverage but has over twice the total network capacity as 700. That said, Verizon being an ISP as well gives them a backhaul advantage.
As was previously stated though, do not expect the speeds on Verizon to last. Also keep in mind that Verizon is quite like Sprint at this point - you have to have LTE *AND* CDMA turned on to make and receive calls and still get your 4G data. This equals much higher battery drain than an equivalent "HSPA+" phone on T-Mobile with the same signal strength being taken into account.
Anyway, as was said earlier in the thread, don't give up on the phone. Try a factory reset first (settings/privacy) and set everything back up again - if that does not work, exchange the device. I've had no issues outside of my own doing with the G2x yet which is amazing since I almost never buy the first generation of a device due to bugs. LG really makes high end android phones.
I had installed the Car Home from the Market by sending to the phone via bt. After looking at my usage in spare parts it looks like it was using some sensor all the time so I'm hoping that was the issue. IV uninstalled it and closed the current car home app that's included. So far no sensor usage. Lets hope that fixes it. Would make sense because I doubt other folks installed this Car Home app on their phones.
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I'm also having similar issues with my phone. I received the phone yesterday morning and i've got nothing while trying to wake it up a few times. It's happened about 5-6 times and it seemed to happen while charging the phone. I don't know if that is a coincidence though. I pull the battery and then it will boot up fine. I actually had the same issue with my original G1. The issue went away after the phone received a few updates.
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Meh, idk. I use both and while Verizon 4g is currently fast, not always faster, that wont last. On 3g, Verizon is much slower.
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This. Wait until more than a few Verizon customers are on the 4G network, speeds will drop a bunch. LTE will probably still beat out T-Mobile's 4G, but not by much once the network gets some traffic. As it stands, Verizon only has one 4G phone that is pretty new, so I'm sure the total number of 4G users is quite low.
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I'm also having similar issues with my phone. I received the phone yesterday morning and i've got nothing while trying to wake it up a few times. It's happened about 5-6 times and it seemed to happen while charging the phone. I don't know if that is a coincidence though. I pull the battery and then it will boot up fine. I actually had the same issue with my original G1. The issue went away after the phone received a few updates.
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I'm definitely jinxing myself but....since I removed the Car Home app and then rebooted. Then stopped the Car Home app that came with the phone from running. It's been OK. Battery life is better too. If I can get it to last at least 5 days before a reboot, might be livable until an update comes along.
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And if T-Mobile had gone with a better chipset (21-42Mbps instead of the same 14.4 that the G2 has - mind you the Vibrant 4G has 21Mbps HSPA and my buddy regularly gets similar speeds to yours - 17-19 down and about 2.4 up) for the baseband, it would be a non-issue.
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I am still pretty disappointed in this. I can't figure out why T-Mobile downgraded their latest phones (Sensation and G2x) to 14.4 from the 21 of the Vibrant 4G. This is supposed to be their flagship phone, but they didn't even put their best modem in it, yet the Sidekick 4G got a 21Mbps modem? Just don't get it.
**** **** ****! Sorry...just happened again. Reboot. Bam. This is irritating to the extreme. Wifi was off, BT was off, phone had been fine all morning. Was exchanging texts with people and put the phone down. Next thing I see, it's rebooting.
WTF!!!!!!!!!
Maybe it's an app that's running but just seems very random.
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I am still pretty disappointed in this. I can't figure out why T-Mobile downgraded their latest phones (Sensation and G2x) to 14.4 from the 21 of the Vibrant 4G. This is supposed to be their flagship phone, but they didn't even put their best modem in it, yet the Sidekick 4G got a 21Mbps modem? Just don't get it.
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I believe this has nothing to do with tmobile. the reason why the galaxy s and sidekick support 21mb/s is because the hummingbird processor supports it while the snapdragon and nvidia only support 14.4 mb/s
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**** **** ****! Sorry...just happened again. Reboot. Bam. This is irritating to the extreme. Wifi was off, BT was off, phone had been fine all morning. Was exchanging texts with people and put the phone down. Next thing I see, it's rebooting.
WTF!!!!!!!!!
Maybe it's an app that's running but just seems very random.
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This doesn't seem so random anymore, and I've read about all the same issues with the O2X. Are you going to try to exchange it before making a final decision?
I have only ever seen it say 2g or 4g. I don't have the best coverage so I didn't think much of it, but a friend I'm Chicago is reporting the same issue.
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Same here. TMobile has to figure this out. My brother's G2 goes from 3G to H.
Mine goes from 2G to 4G.
Make it a standard as to what shows up on the screen. My understanding it even when it says 4G, you may be in 3G. Only way to know is go into network settings or run a speed test.
Kind of stupid in my opinion.
Yeah, it's not a big deal really, just annoying.
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the exact reason given to me by tmobile is that our phones only register gsm(2g) and wdcma(3G and 4G both fall under this on tmobile) so without really checking at anytime 4g could be 3g its fast either way but annoying none the less
Same here...
So the phone just doesn't ever display 3g? When I'm on the 3g network it will show 4g? Sounds a little bit like false advertising to me. I really don't care too much, but if I am getting less than 1mb down and the phone claims to be on 4g it's kinda bs.
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From what I understand, if you go to Settings > About Phone > Status > Mobile Network Type.
If it says UMTS, then your on 3G
If it says HSDPA or HSPA or HSPA+ then your on 4G.
I could be wrong, when Im out and about driving, I can run a speed test and hit 10-12 Mbps and the settings will still read as UMTS even though that appears to be 4G speeds.
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So the phone just doesn't ever display 3g? When I'm on the 3g network it will show 4g? Sounds a little bit like false advertising to me. I really don't care too much, but if I am getting less than 1mb down and the phone claims to be on 4g it's kinda bs.
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Thats exactly what im going through now. My phone right now for example shows "4G" in the status bar, but Settings/About Phone shows "UMTS" doing a speed test right now, my speeds are Download-0.53 Mbps Upload 0.41
I agree this is BS.
Tried calling TMobile to explain how the coverage map for my area says 100% complete 4G coverage but my speeds are slow as ****. Tried complaining so I can get out my contract and go to Sprint but they say as long as voice calling works slow data speeds dont permit to break contract.
But TMobile and there whole 4G compain definetly is false advertising.
ive gotten 3 or 4 different answers from various reps at tmobile but there all terrible i get fast enough service all around me even edge runs well enough but i wish they would show 3g when its 3g they act like they have amazing 4g coverage but all the new 4g phones do this at least i know the sidekick 4g does and correct me if im wrong but the g2 does as well its just a marketing scam
Hey i work for t-mobile and have the G2x. I hosted an event for the launch of the phone and had my LG rep there. She explained that LG actually forgot to put the 3G indicator on the phone. LG is supposed to be putting out a software update for that as well as the terrible battery life on their website very soon. Lets keep our fingers crossed
Ummmmm oops....
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Helluva thing to forget. If it's true.
I hope they do!!!
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Personally, I think they need to do with the G2x like they did with the ipad... stop all manufacturing of the item, until all ends and malfunctions are corrected.
including software & hardware. They're just sending stuff out, and in the end sticking it to the consumer by giving them less than quality standard work for the same amount of money they would expect to receive for something put together and functioning "correctly"
(p.s. before i get the "apple made the ipad" bull, LG created the screens, hence the same "bleeding" "light leaks" in the new ipad 2, also Samsung took over when they halted the production of LG screens)
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Hey i work for t-mobile and have the G2x. I hosted an event for the launch of the phone and had my LG rep there. She explained that LG actually forgot to put the 3G indicator on the phone. LG is supposed to be putting out a software update for that as well as the terrible battery life on their website very soon. Lets keep our fingers crossed
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Well this is a lie they didnt forget anything LOL.
Look at the G2 for example which is made by HTC. It will show 2G/E or H. You will never see 3G symbol on the G2. Unless you install one of those custom roms where then the dev make the phone switch between H and 4G / 3G depending on data traffic.
Well I had bad 4G speeds in my part of town for years I finally gave up on tmobile today. Sold my G2x on craigslist and picked up a Nexus S 4G with Sprint.
I now get atleast 10 Mbps on avarage now. Proof is in the signature.
I think that might be going a little too far, but I haven't had too many major issues thus far. Just little annoying things that should be fixed with updates.
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I have an Evo and on the stock Sense ROM, the phone will display 3G even on 1x (the CDMA equivalent of EDGE). If I hop to CyanogenMod or any Sense ROM ported from another HTC phone, it'll show 1x when I roam/send a text. Also Sense ROMs have like 6 signal bars.
It's all about what the carrier wants. Hell, they could make it say 4G all the time if they want. It's weird though that they show 2G and not 3G.
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Well this is a lie they didnt forget anything LOL.
Look at the G2 for example which is made by HTC. It will show 2G/E or H. You will never see 3G symbol on the G2. Unless you install one of those custom roms where then the dev make the phone switch between H and 4G / 3G depending on data traffic.
Well I had bad 4G speeds in my part of town for years I finally gave up on tmobile today. Sold my G2x on craigslist and picked up a Nexus S 4G with Sprint.
I now get atleast 10 Mbps on avarage now. Proof is in the signature.
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You also won't get any indication that you're on hspa+, either. Just sayin', it goes both ways. You're losing something no matter what.
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I have to put my two cents in on speeds.
I started (my smarty phone odyssey) on Metropcs in Feb....most speed test ever showed was like 1.6mbps...once. Mostly at 1.4-1.5. I was very unhappy with that. Between these speeds, battery issues, no support (from Samsung), I had enuff and went to Sprint. I saw around1.0 Mbps in the beginning. When I complained, they made an adjustment on their end amd it got worse! My average was .65 up and down. Then I went back to Metro. Seems they are suddenly having speed issues. Couldn't get more than about .80, with the same other issues as before. So I've purchased the G2x.
Got two yesterday!!
Both have bleed. Doesn't bother me as it is though. Just noticeable when screen is black. It IS bs, but not a dealbreaker, if it doesn't get worse.
I see people talking about speeds of 8 and 9Mbps and I say I'd be happy with a third of that.
Personally I don't think speedtest is accurate. But I never see that discussed.
T Mobile is supposed to activate these tomorrow. I'll post my speeds. If I get anything above 4.0, I'll be in heaven.
I have looked at youtube videos via wifi and am in awe of this device. Really smooth playback. Wow. Better than the Indulge AND the Evo IMO.
My new phone is supposed to activate tommorow. Can't wait
Oh and I'm in the Dallas market. I'm on top of DFW airport. Dallas is Metros home market so system is overall good here, but I'm in a bit of a dip so reception can be an issue in my home.
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I have to put my two cents in on speeds.
I started (my smarty phone odyssey) on Metropcs in Feb....most speed test ever showed was like 1.6mbps...once. Mostly at 1.4-1.5. I was very unhappy with that. Between these speeds, battery issues, no support (from Samsung), I had enuff and went to Sprint. I saw around1.0 Mbps in the beginning. When I complained, they made an adjustment on their end amd it got worse! My average was .65 up and down. Then I went back to Metro. Seems they are suddenly having speed issues. Couldn't get more than about .80, with the same other issues as before. So I've purchased the G2x.
Got two yesterday!!
Both have bleed. Doesn't bother me as it is though. Just noticeable when screen is black. It IS bs, but not a dealbreaker, if it doesn't get worse.
I see people talking about speeds of 8 and 9Mbps and I say I'd be happy with a third of that.
Personally I don't think speedtest is accurate. But I never see that discussed.
T Mobile is supposed to activate these tomorrow. I'll post my speeds. If I get anything above 4.0, I'll be in heaven.
I have looked at youtube videos via wifi and am in awe of this device. Really smooth playback. Wow. Better than the Indulge AND the Evo IMO.
My new phone is supposed to activate tommorow. Can't wait
Oh and I'm in the Dallas market. I'm on top of DFW airport. Dallas is Metros home market so system is overall good here, but I'm in a bit of a dip so reception can be an issue in my home.
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Sprint's been having nationwide issues for like the last 5 months. On 4G, I used to get 15 Mbps, now I get 1 Mbps. On 3G, I get 300 kbps tops. Their network is overcrowded, according to higherups I spoke to. They said it'll be fixed end of June. Not good enough.
Before I begin, I already have the latest updates and everything on my phone. Also, all tests were done at full bars connected to HSPA+.
As stated in the title, I have never gotten over 1.5 MB/s in a Speedtest. I tried my phone out in 10 different parts of my city today (San Jose) and always stayed under 1.5 MB/s.
What could be causing this issue? The SIM card I am using is from an old phone (like 5 months old, was from a Captivate), could that be the reason why? The AT&T rep said that is the reason, but I don't know if that is fully correct, since HSPA is just an installment to 3G and it isn't real 4G like LTE is. So it should work, right?
What other troubleshooting steps should I take?
That's better then me, I usually get below 1mbs.
Att network just really isn't all that great, and they could also be working on the network in your area as well.
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That's better then me, I usually get below 1mbs.
Att network just really isn't all that great, and they could also be working on the network in your area as well.
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I got higher network speeds in the same areas using my iPhone 3GS!!! I got around 2 MB/s using my 3GS, and it just seemed to drop once I got my Inspire. My speeds have always been this low for the Inspire.
It will also depend on load on the network. I average 1.5 mb/s but late at night early morning i get better then 2 mb/s. Ive seen people post better speeds then that but haven't seen them myself personally. To many things could be playing into this. But i don't think its the phone or sim. I think its ATT.
Just got 2890 kbps down with 345 kbps up. Ping was 169ms. That's a lot faster than anything I got with my eXpo.
I said "**** mobile data" a loooong time ago.
WiFi all the way, baby.
Between trying to figure out whether it's the phone, the rom, the radio, the ril, the build.prop, the area, the flock of birdies flying over head, or just good old ATT, you'll go nuts.
It is what it is.
Ideally, what you need to do, and it may not be possible for you now that you have the inspire, is test out your old phone, or at least borrow somebody's of the same model, side by side. Or another inspire, side by side. That'll at least answer a couple potential scenarios.
Get your SIM swapped at ATT. I've done that and it solved some issues. Sometimes they get goofy and need to be freshened up.
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Have you tried different radios to see which one works best for your area?
Did you already try pulling and re-inserting the battery?
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