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Radio Disabling on Task Kill (Solution)

I'm by no means a pro with this stuff but I wanted to share this for those of you having issues with your radio getting shut down after certain tasks getting closed with a task manager. Also peep, footprints and stocks constantly restarting.
I've tried a few of the task killers out there, even purchased Advanced Task Manger which is an awesome program, but regardless of exception lists with most of these programs occasionally my device would eventually force close an invisible process which made the browser unresponsive and cause other issues.
I picked up TaskPanel a couple of days ago and haven't had a single issue since. I'm chalking it up to some of the other task killers i've tried to closing some random process at some odd time (I'm not able to recreate it consistently).
TaskPanel fixed the problem I was having. It was annoying having to go into air plane mode or resetting the device to get it working again. Its been 2 days now without the issue coming back up so at a minimum it seems significantly reduced if not eliminated for me.
I also do not have peep, stocks and footprints auto loading after a close. If I open them they show up to be closed but once closed they do not automatically reopen. Display difference? Perhaps, but memory useage displayed says they are closed since if I open them it drops and returns back when closed.
My exclusion list:
Htc Sense
Htc Wagent
IQRD
OMADM
Thats it. No issues.

I too have tried all the task killer apps and have had the best luck with task pannel. I'll try adding these to my exception list and see how it goes. Thanks for the info.

Aridon said:
I'm by no means a pro with this stuff but I wanted to share this for those of you having issues with your radio getting shut down after certain tasks getting closed with a task manager. Also peep, footprints and stocks constantly restarting.
I've tried a few of the task killers out there, even purchased Advanced Task Manger which is an awesome program, but regardless of exception lists with most of these programs occasionally my device would eventually force close an invisible process which made the browser unresponsive and cause other issues.
I picked up TaskPanel a couple of days ago and haven't had a single issue since. I'm chalking it up to some of the other task killers i've tried to closing some random process at some odd time (I'm not able to recreate it consistently).
TaskPanel fixed the problem I was having. It was annoying having to go into air plane mode or resetting the device to get it working again. Its been 2 days now without the issue coming back up so at a minimum it seems significantly reduced if not eliminated for me.
I also do not have peep, stocks and footprints auto loading after a close. If I open them they show up to be closed but once closed they do not automatically reopen. Display difference? Perhaps, but memory useage displayed says they are closed since if I open them it drops and returns back when closed.
My exclusion list:
Htc Sense
Htc Wagent
IQRD
OMADM
Thats it. No issues.
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IQRD is the one that kills the radio. I've got it excluded on Advanced Task Killer, and have no problems like you were reporting either.
I do, however, like the auto-end feature with TaskPanel where you can set it to do it as frequently as every five minutes, or at a threshold of available RAM. Advanced Task Killer's minimum is 30 minutes, so I think I'm going to switch to TaskPanel for a while and see how it works. Good suggestion!

I have the solution, stop killing tasks.
Pretty simple.

notrock said:
I have the solution, stop killing tasks.
Pretty simple.
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It's not a solution when the solution has undesired results.
I don't like how sluggish the Hero feels like when it has 28MB of RAM free. I do, however, like it a lot better when it has 75MB free.
Others obviously feel this way too, so hence the need for a thread to discuss viable solutions.
Since you feel your solution works for you, this topic doesn't apply to your situation. I feel like you were trolling a little, so bye bye!

Thanks for this thread. I just tried TaskPanel X and I like it! Pretty powerful little app.

watzone69 said:
Thanks for this thread. I just tried TaskPanel X and I like it! Pretty powerful little app.
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the best hands down....

apps wont close

I just flashed to fresh Rom 0.6b and I also use advanced task killer now I kill everything except my messages and mail app. But I can go back 10mins layer let's say and more apps are running and I never opened them. I can't figure out why if its the Rom or the task killer? killer? Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

Which apps are running? I know that peep like to restart itself all of the time.

I'm having trouble with Sprint navigation restarting by it self I don't know if another app o have is forcing to open nut it sucks bc it uses so much of my battery when its running and every time I see it running I just end the app but I wanna disable it from start up

I noticed on my Stock Unrooted Hero that apps would run constantly by them selves even after a task killer cleared them. I think its the joy of our provider hijacking the phone and telling us what we want.

i use an app called taskpanel, it is one of the only task killer apps to have an auto-killer, you can set it to 5, 15, 30 ect. minutes and it will close any app that is opened, it is also good cuz if you have an app in the foreground it wont close it until you finished

The main thing that custom roms were first addressing on the CDMA Hero are those programs that like to run in the background.
For instance... Sprint Navigation launches automatically when you get a text. I assume it has something to deal with the fact that you can text someone a location straight from Sprint Nav and it will show up in your Sprint Nav.
My personal opinion... stop using task killers. Honestly my phone became much happier when I stopped. I feel that the phone actually runs better when you aren't constantly terminating applications that aren't ready to be closed. Just let the phone do it's thing and uninstall your task killer programs.

I understand and agree about the task killers but if i have sprint naviagation running in the background all day long since i text alot my battery is going to drain down and not really gonna let me last the entire day. so what do you recommend in that situation...? or is there no solution to that yet?

BAttitude7689 said:
I understand and agree about the task killers but if i have sprint naviagation running in the background all day long since i text alot my battery is going to drain down and not really gonna let me last the entire day. so what do you recommend in that situation...? or is there no solution to that yet?
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The easiest recommendation would be to remove sprint navigation. There is also a great app out there called "Autostarts" that will let you view what starts when. You can go under sms and disable sprint nav. However that program hasn't worked for me since the 1.56 update. It still sees everything and tells you what starts when but if you actually try and disable something it just locks up.

ok thanks for that, and I love the blue themed you added for the rom, anyway you can come out with one that has pink replacing the blue because my girlfriend is dying for that..just a request of different colors would be cool.

Help Please

I have a strange problem with my Hero that is hard to describe. Even before I rooted my phone I had this problem which leads me to believe it could possibly be a hardware malfunction. Anyways..
The problem is that over time after a complete wipe and flash of a custom rom (I've tried several) that my phones slowly deteriorates. It will be running fast and great for a week or two and then its starts to slow down to the point where it is completely unusable and I am forced to wipe and flash again. While its acting this way I have tried killings tasks, emptying cache, hard resets... every simple solution I can think of....
The other odd thing is that I use my phone very lightly. I only install 4-6 apps and those are the basics like pandora and such...
And I'd like to add that maybe I'm wrong about my phone acted this way when I had 1.6 official on it. It's been awhile.... so maybe I corrupted something when I rooted my phone for the first time?
Really I wish you could see the way my phone acts... its ridiculous . I would take a youtube video of it if I wasnt too lazy too. Crazy stuff like it taking a whole 30 seconds to a minute for a unlock pattern to finally go through, Or how when I try and type a phone number its like 3 or 4 presses "behind" as I type ( and im not typing quickly) or when I try to scroll through my contact list it just gets stuck and then finally it "catches up" and stutters all the way down to the bottom because of how many swipes I attempted.....
...help

have you tried.....?
Have you tried to run an RUU of eith 1.6 or 2.1? if you runn an RUU it will clear out any lerking "software" issues and then just re-root and try that out then try a custom rom after that.

Try Autokiller from the market. Once you install it, run it. Set the autokiller settings to something like Optimum or Strict (if that doesn't work for you, try Aggressive).
This will adjust the low memory killer settings to a more aggressive number. This, hopefully, will help.
smash58 said:
I have a strange problem with my Hero that is hard to describe. Even before I rooted my phone I had this problem which leads me to believe it could possibly be a hardware malfunction. Anyways..
The problem is that over time after a complete wipe and flash of a custom rom (I've tried several) that my phones slowly deteriorates. It will be running fast and great for a week or two and then its starts to slow down to the point where it is completely unusable and I am forced to wipe and flash again. While its acting this way I have tried killings tasks, emptying cache, hard resets... every simple solution I can think of....
The other odd thing is that I use my phone very lightly. I only install 4-6 apps and those are the basics like pandora and such...
And I'd like to add that maybe I'm wrong about my phone acted this way when I had 1.6 official on it. It's been awhile.... so maybe I corrupted something when I rooted my phone for the first time?
Really I wish you could see the way my phone acts... its ridiculous . I would take a youtube video of it if I wasnt too lazy too. Crazy stuff like it taking a whole 30 seconds to a minute for a unlock pattern to finally go through, Or how when I try and type a phone number its like 3 or 4 presses "behind" as I type ( and im not typing quickly) or when I try to scroll through my contact list it just gets stuck and then finally it "catches up" and stutters all the way down to the bottom because of how many swipes I attempted.....
...help
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tkirton said:
Try Autokiller from the market. Once you install it, run it. Set the autokiller settings to something like Optimum or Strict (if that doesn't work for you, try Aggressive).
This will adjust the low memory killer settings to a more aggressive number. This, hopefully, will help.
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I agree. I use auto killer on aggressive with CM6 and it runs great forever

My phone does the exact same thing!
I first really noticed it when I flashed the official sprint 2.1 update. I think it has something to do with the buildup of cache on the phone.
I have been running CM6 for a little over a month and have recently noticed it getting slightly hung up at times, but nothing compared to how it was with the official 2.1 update. Also, remember that CM6 does not have Sense, which can really slow down the phone.
I also I agree with you that it seemed like my phone did not do this on 1.6, but it has been quite sometime since I flashed 2.1.
Does anyone know what really causes this exponential slow down; to the point where the phone is barely useable?

hm... I will try autokiller.....thanks for the advice
as for CM6..... I've tried not using sense UI but to me its my favorite part of my phone... for example the facebook/twitter/flickr integration with my contact list is invaluable.... is there a replacement for this?
is anyone else able to add anything else?

smash58 said:
hm... I will try autokiller.....thanks for the advice
as for CM6..... I've tried not using sense UI but to me its my favorite part of my phone... for example the facebook/twitter/flickr integration with my contact list is invaluable.... is there a replacement for this?
is anyone else able to add anything else?
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Try Zen-Rom. It has all that you are looking for and is very fast and stable.
Sent from my Zen-Rom Hero!

Auto killer is the way to go. I found Aggressive setting too much for my tastes; if I was on a webpage, then went to the home screen for something else and opened back up the browser, it would have to reload it because it was killed. I set it on optimum, and get no slow down, and can still truly multi task.

chefthomas99 said:
Try Zen-Rom. It has all that you are looking for and is very fast and stable.
Sent from my Zen-Rom Hero!
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Or NFX-Hero. I'm not a Sense guy, but I've experimented with that ROM, and it was the fastest Sense 2.1 IMO.

Just curious but does pandora have a cache file on your sdcard? I had an app that was reading and writting to a cache on my sdcard and it would slow my phone down a lot. When your phone slows try ditching some of your apps and see if maybe one could be responsible for it, if it is there are tons of options different apps that do the same thing.

[Q] Manual Ram Reset?

Let me begin by saying I have a rooted Infuse with Infused 2.2.3 Gingerbread and the Infusion Kernel.
As I use the Infuse over the course of the week, apps get started up and slowly my memory goes down. I can shut off some apps manually, but some refuse to get turned off, even by ram clearing apps and manual rooted actions.
Whenever I want to speed my phone up again and free up Ram, I have to reset my phone.
My question is how would I go about clearing the ram on my phone back to the 'phone-on' starting position, when my apps have yet to be activated?
I have used Advanced Task Killer to attempt this and it does not permanently close apps. I have also used Autokiller Memory Module to close programs, but they also do not stay closed (Is there something to Chuck Norris mode?).
Does anyone know a way to clear the ram back to that point? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Check this out to know more about Android memory management
You do NOT need any memory managers to manage. Let android manage memory.

Please actually read!
Please read my statement before you answer.
Once again, my phone's internal memory manager works FINE, but it does over time get bogged down by too many apps trying to start at once.
My ONLY question: Can I reset the phone's memory back to a reset state without resetting my phone?
Thanks for anyone who knows an answer to this!

sonomar said:
Please read my statement before you answer.
Once again, my phone's internal memory manager works FINE, but it does over time get bogged down by too many apps trying to start at once.
My ONLY question: Can I reset the phone's memory back to a reset state without resetting my phone?
Thanks for anyone who knows an answer to this!
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Read again:
Apps don't start at once, nor compete. Based on usage of apps, OS loads them into RAM, and keeps them there. The amount of RAM to be always left free is set initially. Rest of the RAM is filled here. Apps filled like this do NOT use CPU. They use CPU only when they are invoked, or backgrounded.
Say you are done working with an app, and use the exit function in it. It just signals OS its end, but the app is not cleaned out of RAM. It is kept until it is invoked again, or pushed out until more free RAM than available is needed or when pushed out manually using task manager.
When any app wants more RAM than what is available, the preloaded ones are pushed out, and this app is loaded.
Too many apps compete for CPU and memory when a user starts hitting "home" button instead of "back" button. Home button pushes apps to background wherein the back button signals u r out of the app. This sets the app to be pushed out of RAM as needed.
I use pretty many apps, and sometimes go on for over a week without bothering to use any task manager to clear out RAM nor noticing any lag.
And to be specific to your question:
There is no time like initial start time until the phone is rebooted again. If u give the phone some time to settle after u reboot it, u can see apps being to memory, be it that they are invoked by you or not. Even if ATK or any task killer kills them, OS respawns them over time based on ur usage of them.

Thanks, I'll try pushing the back button more often and see if that works...though for google apps that usually isn't allowed.
The problem is that even with Android's automatic system, I'm still being given "Low Memory" warnings on all my apps within a few days of rebooting.
I dunno, I think that currently the only real solution is to reboot my phone bi-daily, but I really was hoping there was a way to reset the OS ram without a full reboot.
Again, thanks anyway!

sonomar said:
Thanks, I'll try pushing the back button more often and see if that works...though for google apps that usually isn't allowed.
The problem is that even with Android's automatic system, I'm still being given "Low Memory" warnings on all my apps within a few days of rebooting.
I dunno, I think that currently the only real solution is to reboot my phone bi-daily, but I really was hoping there was a way to reset the OS ram without a full reboot.
Again, thanks anyway!
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Maybe u have too many apps open. Not sure what's the case on ur phone. Personally I never faced this low memory issue so far.
By the way, I froze up certain system apps (in tibu) (even deleted some) that I don't use, like Google search, etc cos these r always loaded and I never use them.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA App

I have the same problem
sonomar said:
Let me begin by saying I have a rooted Infuse with Infused 2.2.3 Gingerbread and the Infusion Kernel.
As I use the Infuse over the course of the week, apps get started up and slowly my memory goes down. I can shut off some apps manually, but some refuse to get turned off, even by ram clearing apps and manual rooted actions.
Whenever I want to speed my phone up again and free up Ram, I have to reset my phone.
My question is how would I go about clearing the ram on my phone back to the 'phone-on' starting position, when my apps have yet to be activated?
I have used Advanced Task Killer to attempt this and it does not permanently close apps. I have also used Autokiller Memory Module to close programs, but they also do not stay closed (Is there something to Chuck Norris mode?).
Does anyone know a way to clear the ram back to that point? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I have a tablet android 4.1. After some time I don't have runing apps and I don't have free memory. I don't have running tasks, I don't have cashed tasks. And I don't have free memory. After this critical point the tablet needs restart. Of course after restart everything works fine, for some hours. After sleep the above critical point comes quicker... The problem seems to me like driver or software problem but I can't be sure... I m searching for a similar solution for an app that can without restart, restart my ram, clear completely my ram, not task killing because at the end I don't have tasks to kill... It looks like somehow a garbage ram is created after some time, that kills my ram. It looks like virus but it is not virus as the device is new and I have check for viruses...

Just get the app Startup Manager, stop all user apps (except some that you do want to run), apply, and reboot

Cache cleaner free from the market. I use cache cleaner ng.
sent from outer space.

Quick and easy approach - use Fast Reboot.
Brings the phone to like-rebooted condition... in about 5 seconds.
Normally don't need it, but occasionally phone gets bogged down and this clears it right up.
Free program.
Another step - a little more work - Find the programs that are running with a service and get rid of them if you don't need them... or use Gemini Apps manager to block auto-start. Google Maps is a good one to block auto start of.

can i make certain apps force my screen to stay awake?

It's been a while since I owned a Android and I just moved over to honor 8 from an iPhone.
On my iPhone certain apps forced the screen to stay awake, mostly gps apps and also pokemon go which my gf plays all the time on my phone.
Pokemon go also uses the gps so I'm guessing it's all related to the gps or video since that's another situation where the screen stays awake longer.
So, is this possible on Android and on honor 8?
Changing the autolock is not what I'm looking for since that changes it in all apps and outside of apps.
Thnx

Take a Look an Tasker-App.
Maybe it will give you the solution.

[email protected] said:
Take a Look an Tasker-App.
Maybe it will give you the solution.
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You talking about the app called 'tasker' from 'crafty apps eu' in the play store that's about $3?
EDIT: Ok, it took me a while to get it sorted and to figure out why it stopped working all the time (it was the battery saving process that kept killing it's permissions)
But now it's working like a charm.
Thank you so much, I never even knew this app existed. I haven't fully figured it out yet but I can see huge potential in it.
Every Android user should definitely have it installed.
This is a bit off-topic, but do you know any other extremely useful apps like this?
Thnx again.