This was posted in Motorola support forums:
''There will not be an upgrade to FroYo 2.2 for the XT720/XT701. We are evaluating having a software update to fix some of the bugs some users have reported.
Mark
Motorola Mobility US Facebook Support''
So maybe we will get an update
What bugs need to be fixed?
There is a thread around with a list of bugs, I couldn't tell you from off the top of my head, but that confirms we aren't getting froyo EVER? I hope that applies only to the upgrade log of Q4 2010 and Q1 2011.. Dex is cooking something up for us Froyo wise so we shouldn't worry to much, but if he finishes his project before this "update" hopefully he'll optimize his build to support it.
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that just means they will only release a FIX for 2.1 to 2.1 fixed
that is by no means a release for 2.2
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This was posted in Motorola support forums:
''There will not be an upgrade to FroYo 2.2 for the XT720/XT701. We are evaluating having a software update to fix some of the bugs some users have reported.
Mark
Motorola Mobility US Facebook Support''
So maybe we will get an update
What bugs need to be fixed?
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I think you added the word "soon" there. All they've really said is that they're thinking about maybe deciding to do something sometime in the future.
Edit: Also be aware that Motorola distinguishes between "updates" and "upgrades". 2.1-update1 to 2.1-update2 is an "update". 2.1-update1 to 2.2 is an "upgrade". Mark's been pretty clear that the Motorola software group has decided there will never be any "upgrade" whatsoever for the XT720 (except the Motoroi).
Also...thnigs to think about...Motorola released the xt720 onto the market with flaws and have not done anything to correct them. And are only at the moment collating the bugs from the owners of the handsets...then will present that to whomever in Motorola to see if and what they MAY address..forget about it.
Then get their new graduate programmers to work on it.
Motorola do crap software on magnificent hardware...our only hope is thru hired guns.
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"Motorola do crap software on magnificent hardware...our only hope is thru hired guns."
true, its been that way for years
mtvdeo said:
This was posted in Motorola support forums:
''There will not be an upgrade to FroYo 2.2 for the XT720/XT701. We are evaluating having a software update to fix some of the bugs some users have reported.
Mark
Motorola Mobility US Facebook Support''
So maybe we will get an update
What bugs need to be fixed?
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got the link? I wasn't able to see that post on the US and Non US xt720 forums...
here is the link to the forum with where they are tracking the bugs..
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/41375
ot the link? I wasn't able to see that post on the US and Non US xt720 forums...
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While there will not be an upgrade for this phone, we are exploring giving it an update to resolve some of the bugs users have reported., It is at the bottom of page 11.
I see many people correcting me. I said UPDATE, not UPGRADE. I didn't mean froyo. Maybe we are getting update2 or 2.1.5 (like the CLIQ).
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got the link? I wasn't able to see that post on the US and Non US xt720 forums...
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It's one of the canned responses they're using now. It's all over the facebook/getsatisfaction threads. For example:
http://getsatisfaction.com/motorola/topics/to_motos_administrators_and_managers
I read another one there (that I can't find at the moment) where it's clarified that "will remain 2.1" or whatever they put on the software upgrade page is a final decision and that 2.3, 3.0 etc and later are also out of the question, too.
If you want to get your (dis)satisfaction faster, Motorola seems much more responsive there than on their own forums.
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if so when it will be?
can i get the OTA if i dont use at&t's sim?
who develop and responsible for the update? is it at&t or Samsung?
and for last, will i be able to install the updated Rom by Odin?
thanks
Shay
All these questions have been asked ad nauseum on these very forums... wouldn't want to inconveniance you with a search though so...
Yes.
Don't know.
Probably, but you'll likely have to flash it yourself.
Samsung will do the development, AT&T will probably deploy.
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All these questions have been asked ad nauseum on these very forums... wouldn't want to inconveniance you with a search though so...
Yes.
Don't know.
Probably, but you'll likely have to flash it yourself.
Samsung will do the development, AT&T will probably deploy.
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Thanks for your reply! It is also important to me.
I can trust the AT & T?..
I want to buy the device. Maybe they do not release an update?
Eventually. If you search the threads, there is a post about Froyo for Captivate in Spain (I think) for late October.
Anyway, I want them to make sure it's ok before they push out another update that bricks phones.
Thanks. So the update will come for sure? So probably I will buy.
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Thanks. So the update will come for sure? So probably I will buy.
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Yeah but it will probably come for the I9000 Galaxy S phones first. It's a wait and see.
so one last question to be sure:
the captivate will get an update to android 2.2
the update is originally made to the i9000 and being modified by at&t?
am i right?
thanks again
by the way, i did searched a lot in the forum but i didn't found and inconclusive answers
Samsung will port the 2.2 update to the Captivate, but AT&T has to approve(mangle) it before public release.
Don't mean to burst your bubbles but no. We will not get a official release.... just remember I said it.
Common if we were to get it it would be done by now.
yes
It will come
someday
smashpunks said:
Don't mean to burst your bubbles but no. We will not get a official release.... just remember I said it.
Common if we were to get it it would be done by now.
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True We Will Not, but You can "BUY" a Samsung Tablet with Froyo 2.2. Ask yourself how do they have 2.2 for a tablet that has yet to be released (here in the USA, but Soon) and not for the Captivate and all others that were released in July some back in May?
Hell No We WON'T EVER see Froyo on the Captivate....
So does this mean that the devs will be able to strip honeycomb out of the xoom easily for us g-tabers?
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/2...ckablerelockable-bootloader-for-development/#
That would be my assumption. Great news!
Edit:
I just saw that announcement as well. Seems like good news. I'm a little shocked honestly.
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I'm sure its only a matter of time before someone yells at us for talking about honeycomb in a forum, but I too am curious about that. I know that Roebeet was answering some questions on another honeycomb thread, which I really appreciate. Seems to me, now that honeycomb is right around the corner, that some discussion about what must be done to get honeycomb on our g tabs would be useful.
Is anyone who checks this forum getting a Xoom? It would be great if a developer could let us know what might be needed from a xoom to begin work on a gtab honeycomb rom (if it is even possible). Im much more hopeful now after learning about the unlockable bootloader. I'm not asking for honeycomb tomorrow by any means, but am very curious about what steps would need to be taken to get honeycomb on the gtab. Thanks for any help!
Guys, our dev community here is one of the best. Roebeet and Rothnic are already active on the Xoom forum and inquiring/waiting/stalking for a system rom dump. ..gotta luv 'em.
See here for the Xoom forum on xda
When you start seeing threads about roms and the like on those forums, Honeycomb for the Gtab won't be far behind.
Thanks for the update!
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Guys, our dev community here is one of the best. Roebeet and Rothnic are already active on the Xoom forum and inquiring/waiting/stalking for a system rom dump. ..gotta luv 'em.
See here for the Xoom forum on xda
When you start seeing threads about roms and the like on those forums, Honeycomb for the Gtab won't be far behind.
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Thanks for the info. Maybe a mod should post a sticky like your post to cut down on honeycomb threads.
Thanks again \oo/
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neo4uo said:
Thanks for the info. Maybe a mod should post a sticky like your post to cut down on honeycomb threads.
Thanks again \oo/
Sent from my Froyo Leak...thanks Kaos \00/
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Exactly what I was thinking. If anyone in the know could explain whats the approximate timeline for Google's releases of AOSP in relation to the release of flagship device with the corresponding update.
cjackxiii said:
Exactly what I was thinking. If anyone in the know could explain whats the approximate time line for Google's releases of AOSP in relation to the release of flagship device with the corresponding update.
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Read in another post here that Google has 30 days from the release of the first device running an OS before they have to release it to AOSP. again this is from a post I read and can't locate at the moment (too many Where's honeycomb threads to deal with looking through) so take it for what its worth.
Even so, would you like a rom that is a port of another device or a rom built from source using the same version of android?
I say our very own honeycomb will do!
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I'm sure its only a matter of time before someone yells at us for talking about honeycomb in a forum, but I too am curious about that. I know that Roebeet was answering some questions on another honeycomb thread, which I really appreciate. Seems to me, now that honeycomb is right around the corner, that some discussion about what must be done to get honeycomb on our g tabs would be useful.
Is anyone who checks this forum getting a Xoom? It would be great if a developer could let us know what might be needed from a xoom to begin work on a gtab honeycomb rom (if it is even possible). Im much more hopeful now after learning about the unlockable bootloader. I'm not asking for honeycomb tomorrow by any means, but am very curious about what steps would need to be taken to get honeycomb on the gtab. Thanks for any help!
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I'm getting a xoom tomorrow and i'm pretty adventurous so if there's anything I can do to help just let me know.
Legacy2385 said:
I'm getting a xoom tomorrow and i'm pretty adventurous so if there's anything I can do to help just let me know.
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I am also getting a Xoom tomorrow but definitely not throwing out the gtablet as it is one of the best learning development tools I have owned. I will probably be a bit more cautious with the xoom out of the gate just because of the cost, but guaranteed I will be testing Honeycomb ROMS on the gtablet as soon as they are available.
Looks like some of us made Wikipedia .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Milestone_XT720#References
Haha is that a pix of and XT by an XT? Would that be MadXT Disease.
That Wikipedia page actually has quite a lot of problems.
Let me post some things found on the page:
Unfortunately the CBW or "Cincinnati Bell" update was nothing but a plagiary of D3xters First 2.2 update. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11082732&postcount=1 was posted on XDA Developers website 6 months previously to the "BS Official" update CBW put out.
Due to the fact that CBW was boasting their "Official" XT720 update, actual developers stop developing on D3xters release in anticipation of a "fixed XT720". The wait was mostly due to incorrigible system hack's that disabled vital functions in the ROM's system.
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Plagiarism? Really? Android is Open-Source for a reason.
And something I find really funny in that post:
Fortunately, the developers stroked back lol and took back the XT720.
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The inclusion of the word 'LOL' in a Wikipedia page is just...lol.
I really hope I don't offend anyone by posting this, but I find it quite humourous so I decided to post this.
Hey i spoke to samsung on live chat and they did say samsung infuse will get official ics update.
Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Visitor: Hi i wanted to ask if the samsung infuse 4g would be getting the ice cream sandwich update as you guys promised it would
Simpson: I understand that you want to know if Infuse 4g will get a ICS update in near future. Is that correct?
Visitor: yes
Simpson: Thank you for confirming.
Simpson: Would you mind in holding for a few minutes while I check the information?
Visitor: ok
Simpson: Thank you.
Simpson: Thank you for holding.
Simpson: I can see that Samsung is in close contacts with the Google and all the carriers to release the Icecream sandwich update for Infuse.
Simpson: I am glad to inform you that your phone is in the update list and is close to receive the update however the dates are not confirmed yet.
Simpson: The Icecream sandwich update for your phone will be released as soon as possible.
Simpson: We apologize for any inconvenience caused to you.
Simpson: When ever an update is released for your phone you will get an notification alert on your phone informing you about the released update.
Simpson: We sincerely apologize for the delay caused to you.
Visitor: so you guys confirmed that there will be an update?
Simpson: Yes, but we don't have exact date for it.
Simpson: I’m sorry for the inconvenience.
Visitor: o okay thank you. Do you guys think it will happen this year?
Simpson: I think it will as Samsung is working in this regard with Google.
Simpson: Is there anything else that I can assist you with?
Visitor: no and thank you
Simpson: You are welcome.
Simpson: It was a pleasure assisting you. Thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. If you have a minute, please click on the blue “X close” button to receive a transcript of your chat and fill out a brief survey to help us serve you better. Have a wonderful day!
Chat session has been terminated by the Samsung Agent
"Visitor: Hi i wanted to ask if the samsung infuse 4g would be getting the ice cream sandwich update as you guys promised it would"
They never promised anything...but who knows miracles could happen and they may not have been just giving you lip service
so... make it happen "the google"!
Samsung Technical Support can you please send me a link when the icecream update is ready for the Infuse 4g.
I highly doubt ICS is ever coming to infuse... but good to see there is a slight hope.
I just want them to release more stable version of official gb
It will take forever
lol even though it will come jelly bean (android 5.0) will probobly be out by then. I mean froyo to gingerbread is small step and took atnt forever to release it. gingerbread to ics is huge step and will take atnt forever to release it to lol. The only reason i want them to release it is for bluetooth and camera drivers. Entropy's rom is awsome and is my daily driver but it doesnt have bluetooth and camera isnt the best quility so if samsung does release official the entropy's rom will be awsome. Yeah a more stable gb rom would be good to cause the one out right now doesnt have hdmi support and only records 720p at 15frames per second
I'm not trying to be a buzz kill but they more than likely for their phones mixed up. This phone is dead to them.
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lets hope not
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I'm not trying to be a buzz kill but they more than likely for their phones mixed up. This phone is dead to them.
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lol im hoping not cause when he replys he does mention the infuse in like 3 of his replys
ross1998 said:
lol im hoping not cause when he replys he does mention the infuse in like 3 of his replys
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I would try it again with another operator just to see what they say.
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Ill try again
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I would try it again with another operator just to see what they say.
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ill try agian when i have time and post results
Edit: tried agian and the guy said they are working on it with google right now but its not official yet
Maybe ask them by model number (SHG-I997) so they don't confuse it with the "Inspire" again.
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Maybe ask them by model number (SHG-I997) so they don't confuse it with the "Inspire" again.
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The OP was speaking with Samsung not ATT so no reason to get infuse confused with inspire
The person I spoke with did not give me the same reply you got
Valarie: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Visitor: Hello. Will the Samsung Infuse 4g (SGH-1997) be recieving an Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) update?
Valarie: I understand that you want to know the releasing date of Ice Cream Sandwich for Samsung Infuse 4g. Is that correct?
Visitor: Yes.
Valarie: Thank you.
Valarie: I will be more than happy to assist you.
Valarie: We are unable to speculate when/if this software revision might be available due to the fact that this might lead to inaccurate information and confusion. Should this become available, it will be posted on our website in the Samsung Download Center or you will be informed by your service provider. Please feel free to check with us periodically for updates.
Valarie: You will get the update information on your phone once the update is released.
Valarie: I apologize for the inconvenience caused.
Visitor: So there is no word as to if this is even being worked on?
Valarie: In live chat support we perform basic troubleshooting steps to get the issue fixed.
Valarie: You will get the update information on your phone once the update is released
Visitor: Alright Thank you.
Valarie: You're welcome. Is there anything else I can assist you with?
Visitor: No thanks.
"Valarie: You will get the update information on your phone once the update is released" This was said twice... Maybe good news? Im trying a diffrent rep.
The release date will be in 2025
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You should keep annoying them with it and they might change their mind lol
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Maybe ask them by model number (SHG-I997) so they don't confuse it with the "Inspire" again.
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Lol. He didn't contact HTC...
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Dont put stock in what Samsung has to say as they have little control over the update. ATT has complete control. Samsung may release it to ATT but then ATT may never release it. It is not unheard of. Happens all the time with ATT phones. The euro version gets 1 or 2 updates whle the US version never sees any updates at all.
This is what i got
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Your Issue ID for this chat is LTK56401028540X
Nicole: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Visitor: Will the Infuse be recieving ICS?
Visitor: SGH-1997
Nicole: I understand that you want to know the ICS release for your Infuse device. Is that correct?
Visitor: yes
Nicole: Thank you.
Nicole: I will be happy to help you with the details.
Visitor: okat
Nicole: I would like to inform you that, we do not have any information on future release updates. However; once the update is available, it will be posted on our website in the Samsung Download Center or you will be informed by your service provider. Please feel free to check with us periodically for updates.
Nicole: I would like to inform you that, currently, 2.3 Gingerbread is the latest software version for your device. ICS has not been released. Once the update is available, it will be posted on our website in the Samsung Download Center or you will be informed by your service provider. Please feel free to check with us periodically for updates.
I have to agree, it would be awesome if they do bring ICS to our phone. However, it'll be a couple of months before they release a "Leak" of it, and by the time it's released on Kies, I'm sure all of us will be up for an upgrade, and we'll all have the SG3 looking for a Jellybean leak, trying to OC and Theme the hell out of it.. lol..
Guys.... there were articles everywhere stating that att would only release ics to some of their very high end phones. The infuse is not a high end phone anymore. Sammy may make an update... but the chances of us ever seeing it are little as att will abolish it immediatly. Only if someone was in very close contact with sammy....
I agree with you, which is pretty much why we're all here on XDA looking for the latest and greatest for our phone, which is why I applaud and send my MANY thanks to everyone responsible for every Mod/Theme/Firmware update possible. I know I just officially joined this site, but I've been coming to it for quite sometime, to look for ways to mod not just my phone, but also friends of mine who are not as Tech-savy as I am, so I find myself getting asked to mod all my friends phones all the time. Luckily, I find it fun to do, not to mention, it helps me get a better understanding of how things work and why they operate the way they do. but anyhow.. If it is true that this phone will get ICS that's awesome, but if not, well.. atleast it was a nice thought. Even though, it still baffles me that Developers here at XDA can port ROMs from other phones and are getting quite efficient at it too by the way, and it takes manufactures months actually almost a year to release an old outdated Firmware upgrade (Gingerbread) and still had plenty of bugs.. so what's the difference at this point where we get updates from.. lol..
I got this email from Motorola today.....
Hi.
Thanks for signing up for the Atrix 2 software test. Our apologies for the delay in starting this test! The software will begin to be pushed out later this afternoon; however, it may take several hours for all targeted devices to receive the update.
We're eager to hear your feedback. Please share your experience on the private community provided, and via the survey I will send out after you've had some time to work with the software.
To ensure we hear you, please follow these guidelines:
•Please post all your feedback in our private community (link below). This also where you'll find help during the soak.
•Please do not call or contact Motorola, AT&T or your carrier support for help during the soak. Those teams are not yet ready to support this software.
•I'm not able to check private messages on the forums during soaks, so if you need immediate help that's not a good route to take. Post in the community instead.
•If you have any problems accessing the private community, please click here for help.
•Please do not post questions publicly, on our site or elsewhere.
Please start your visit to the private community here. You'll find additional important information in the Welcome message as soon as you sign in. (Note that you will not be able to post in the public communities during the soak test.)
Thanks so much for your participation! We really appreciate your time and insights.
Regards,
Motorola Feedback Network
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Visit us at: forums.motorola.com
I saw this in another thread. Once again, we're advising to download the leak but DO NOT install it. Extract it from your cache folder and upload it to give to one of the devs via PM.
DO NOT post it on the forums or in a thread.
Oh and waiting? Can you please edit your post so the gentleman's name from Motorola is not posted?
Thanks.
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I just received the update prompt.
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LOL motorola this appears to be the update offered on the leak from the looks of things.....
Here is a better capture
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I just got the update from the soak test as well ,downloading now
This looks to be the same leak from early July....
Either way, glad you guys now have the soak test ongoing!
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Here is a better capture
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Does - "View release notes" actually give you anything useful?
67.21.125
nothing interested.
How long do we have to wait before we start blaming Motorola's sad update schedule on Google? Have we reached that threshold? They are, after all, the ones who laid off a bunch of Motorola staffers (potentially those working on the Atrix 2's update). I'll stop, because there's already been enough baseless conjecture around this, but at this point I think it comes down to Google.
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How long do we have to wait before we start blaming Motorola's sad update schedule on Google? Have we reached that threshold? They are, after all, the ones who laid off a bunch of Motorola staffers (potentially those working on the Atrix 2's update). I'll stop, because there's already been enough baseless conjecture around this, but at this point I think it comes down to Google.
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I blame all the Indian ICS Atrix2 users for posting so many questions. It probably scared the Motorola company lurkers until they got quiet again.
But seriously, like you said, enough is enough. Mods please delete any new posts that try to start that stupid, tired argumentative thread again.
Ajfink said:
How long do we have to wait before we start blaming Motorola's sad update schedule on Google? Have we reached that threshold? They are, after all, the ones who laid off a bunch of Motorola staffers (potentially those working on the Atrix 2's update). I'll stop, because there's already been enough baseless conjecture around this, but at this point I think it comes down to Google.
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lol, kinda feels like you should have ended your statement with the ubiquitous "I'm just saying...". Seriously, I'm just glad we're getting an official build...
I am a soaker and my update fails, I removed root, TB, Cheesecake, and bootstrap verified all were removed and settings changed back what would be causing it to fail? I did also change my boot animation
SLayernet said:
I am a soaker and my update fails, I removed root, TB, Cheesecake, and bootstrap verified all were removed and settings changed back what would be causing it to fail? I did also change my boot animation
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You likely have removed some bloat or touched a file it checks. Your best bet it to copy the update to your SD card and FXZ to stock, update to 2.3.6, and apply ICS soak. As has been stated MANY times, once you are on this version of ICS you can't FXZ back. Good luck!
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You likely have removed some bloat or touched a file it checks. Your best bet it to copy the update to your SD card and FXZ to stock, update to 2.3.6, and apply ICS soak. As has been stated MANY times, once you are on this version of ICS you can't FXZ back. Good luck!
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Thank you, sorry if I overlooked it MANY times
SLayernet said:
I am a soaker and my update fails, I removed root, TB, Cheesecake, and bootstrap verified all were removed and settings changed back what would be causing it to fail? I did also change my boot animation
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Just fyi, you can also check /cache/recovery/last_log.txt to see why it failed... but yea, once you go on this soak build, there's most likely no going back.
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