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HTC Issue, Hope you guys help

So right now were trying to make sure that the future of HTC's phones dont get knocked out because of the encrypted bootloader they are trying to force upon us so im just writing this to you all to make sure that the XDA members know whats going on and I was wondering if you all can help us out, these are the details:
right now i'm sure your aware of what is going on in HTC's facebook page and i wanted to know if you
would read up on what is going on and show that everyone is wanting this to be unlocked.
This first link is the petition that were all signing to show to HTC that we are wanting this:
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloade...nd/#signatures
We want more to know about it so i was reaching out to all of you right now.
this second link is the conversation that a member who started this had with a sprint rep on facebook, it shows that sprint is not the one responsible for the locked bootloader and that they are not trying to push for it.
https://www.facebook.com/sprint/posts/156658601067283
This last link is just what xda is thinking of it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1094914
we know that they made a statement but we want to make sure that they know that we all want this to be unlocked
So pass this along and let everyone know what is happening! thanks for your help!

The links are dead. I think this is a bogus post. Admins, please review and close this thread if it is.
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links are broken.

Gene Poole said:
links are broken.
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http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/#signatures
idk what happened sorry guys

I made a quick search for the groubal and found the link:
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/#sign
I don't think this is a bogus post.
Sorry, you beat me to it!

mintilmidnight said:
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/#signatures
idk what happened sorry guys
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click on it different times because i do get that error sometimes, sorry about it not working from the get go, but i would love your support on this guys

guy4even said:
I made a quick search for the groubal and found the link:
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/#sign
I don't think this is a bogus post.
Sorry, you beat me to it!
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thanks for reassuring them its not bogus at all me and a couple of xda members are trying to influence the facebook people right now we have been working hard but we need the help of our fellow xda members

No surprise with future HTC phones getting locked and/or encrypted BLs. Pressure from carriers are finally getting to HTC.
Someone from XDA will crack 'em.

knarfl1 said:
No surprise with future HTC phones getting locked and/or encrypted BLs. Pressure from carriers are finally getting to HTC.
Someone from XDA will crack 'em.
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Seems like sprint isn't pushing this on them though, based on what i've seen with this info it seems its HTC's part here that they want to protect their Sense UI most likely. but you can help and try to change the future because that's not something i want and i'm sure no one in xda wants this either

mintilmidnight said:
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/#signatures
idk what happened sorry guys
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It appears that you cut the links from another post wherein the tag get's abbreviated (the ellipsis in the middle) but the actual href is valid. You should always right click the link and "copy address" (or however it appears in your browser) instead of selecting the text directly.

Yea I saw that I have never had that issue before but wanted to get the word out there and try to get as much help as possible
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[Q] Hashcode: State of the Union (Want ICS?)

Dear Fellow Atrix 2 Friends,
This really belongs in the Dev thread, but I can't post there yet. I wanted to share this fascinating article with you all, and wondering if Jim and LFaber are in contact with him regularly (I know CM9 is still alpha)??
I almost wish we (everyone here at XDA with an A2), had gotten him an Atrix 2, before that person from the Bionic crew did (read the article, you'll understand)?
As always, tons of thanks to Jim, LFaber, and even to those brave souls who occasional get really excited about diving in (I mean, even if it turns out a far deeper rabbit hole than you were prepared for at first --- still, I tip my hat to these brave souls!).
To those who will read the linked brief article (half a page, really), do you have any ideas, any feedback?
Good Karma,
~p

PRichardson said:
Dear Fellow Atrix 2 Friends,
This really belongs in the Dev thread, but I can't post there yet. I wanted to share this fascinating article with you all, and wondering if Jim and LFaber are in contact with him regularly (I know CM9 is still alpha)??
I almost wish we (everyone here at XDA with an A2), had gotten him an Atrix 2, before that person from the Bionic crew did (read the article, you'll understand)?
As always, tons of thanks to Jim, LFaber, and even to those brave souls who occasional get really excited about diving in (I mean, even if it turns out a far deeper rabbit hole than you were prepared for at first --- still, I tip my hat to these brave souls!).
To those who will read the linked brief article (half a page, really), do you have any ideas, any feedback?
Good Karma,
~p
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That would be awesome!

You might want to rethink donating an Atrix 2 to him; you might unintentionally ruin his marriage!

Yep, I read it, and both lfaber06 and I communicate with him often. I will PM lfaber06 and see if we can get hascode to give us some info, but I will tell you that the radio on our phone is sooooo, different from all the phones that he/they work on since they are all for verizon, some with international versions mind you, but it is still an issue for us, because we are an island in the motorola smartphone world. There really is not a phone that is "exactly" as ours, now the international version of the d3 is as close as it gets, but we still have the radio issues. And I have already contacted hashcode about that a while ago, we still need to find a phone that has a close enough radio that is running ICS, like one of the sony phones, but they are not running ics yet, so it is playing the waiting game for the moment.

Hi Jim,
You wrote:
jimbridgman said:
Yep, I read it, and both lfaber06 and I communicate with him often.
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... I thought that was likely. You also mentioned:
..I will PM lfaber06 and see if we can get hascode to give us some info..
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I was curious and skimmed through some of HashCode's posts on XDA, and there was one particular post where he indicated that "everyone" (referring to those with a particular phone) needed to be regularly/daily checking the 'servers' for a leaked ROM or something like that. I have a MOTO Dev account, but I am unaware of any list of FTP servers(?).
~p

moofree said:
You might want to rethink donating an Atrix 2 to him; you might unintentionally ruin his marriage!
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LOL, that's probably true for several of us here!

He means checking the cheesecake servers... if you'd like to help go to the bootloader unlock thread for more information.
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Jimmy273 said:
He means checking the cheesecake servers... if you'd like to help go to the bootloader unlock thread for more information.
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Thanks Jimmy!, I am still quite new to Android Dev, but I am diving in fast. I'll read the entire thread you have suggested, in order to understand better, and also to find the absolute best way that I can help out.
Best Regards,
Paul

ICS Update?

So, curious... has anyone who claims finding that golden ticket in the Wonka bar of the new leaked ICS update passed that update file along to someone who can actually pick it apart to see if these are legit, or are we dealing with a bunch of trolls here?
*Mod, feel free to move this if needed. Thanks.
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Apex_Strider said:
So, curious... has anyone who claims finding that golden ticket in the Wonka bar of the new leaked ICS update passed that update file along to someone who can actually pick it apart to see if these are legit, or are we dealing with a bunch of trolls here?
*Mod, feel free to move this if needed. Thanks.
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Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683893
Several of my dev counterparts and I have looked this one over extensively. It is legit, but so far ONLY for the Chinese release, and Middle East Aisia phones. There is still no sign of the US AT&T or any other international versions yet.

Apex_Strider said:
So, curious... has anyone who claims finding that golden ticket in the Wonka bar of the new leaked ICS update passed that update file along to someone who can actually pick it apart to see if these are legit, or are we dealing with a bunch of trolls here?
*Mod, feel free to move this if needed. Thanks.
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Yes, there are legitimate leaks of ICS for ME865 and non-AT&T MB865. See these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683893
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684443
Pretty much everyone here who's a dev or wants to be one at some point are taking a look at these.

So, are these updates being found via Cheesecake or do the lucky ducks in China (or wherever) not divulge where they stumbled upon it?
Also, I've been checking Cheesecake for a couple of weeks now, but occasionally I'll get a "Connection Failed" window that wants me to select from three different choices... is that right or am I not doing something right?
Thanks in advance for your responses.

Apex_Strider said:
So, are these updates being found via Cheesecake or do the lucky ducks in China (or wherever) not divulge where they stumbled upon it?
Also, I've been checking Cheesecake for a couple of weeks now, but occasionally I'll get a "Connection Failed" window that wants me to select from three different choices... is that right or am I not doing something right?
Thanks in advance for your responses.
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Most likely being leaked from Cheesecake, unless they know someone who works inside at Motorola.
As for the connection failed window, whenever I get that window I simply restart my phone and the message will not show up again for a while. That message shows up I believe if you overload their servers by trying to connect too many times in a given time period.

MagicXB said:
Most likely being leaked from Cheesecake, unless they know someone who works inside at Motorola.
As for the connection failed window, whenever I get that window I simply restart my phone and the message will not show up again for a while. That message shows up I believe if you overload their servers by trying to connect too many times in a given time period.
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Okay, good to know .I'll try a reboot next time I see that window pop up. Glad to know I'm not going about this wrong -don't want to lessen my already slim-to-none chance at getting the ICS update! lol

Please post in the correct forum. Development forum is not meant to make random inquiries. If you didn't make it it does not merit a new forum in development section. Also this has been asked before so please search before making a new thread. /moved to General.
Cheers

Apex_Strider said:
Okay, good to know .I'll try a reboot next time I see that window pop up. Glad to know I'm not going about this wrong -don't want to lessen my already slim-to-none chance at getting the ICS update! lol
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Please DON'T install any of these pre-release updates!
They really are not meant for "normal" use.
You are best to wait for one of us devs to create a stable ROM out of these updates for everyone to flash. Either that or wait about 2 more weeks and Motorola will release the real deal through the proper OTA channels. When we had the 2.3.6 leaks, it was about 2-3 weeks before the "Official" OTA came out.
If you flash this it has the potential to lock your phone down even more than it already is, that or make a brick out of it.
If you find an update the best thing to do is to upload it someplace like say dropbox... then post a post in the General section with the link to it, asking us devs to look it over.
If you don't have a dropbox space, see my signature, it is 100% free for 2.5GB of space, and if you refer people you get more free space.

Apex_Strider said:
Also, I've been checking Cheesecake for a couple of weeks now, but occasionally I'll get a "Connection Failed" window that wants me to select from three different choices... is that right or am I not doing something right?
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"Connection Failed" just means that that server is down.. choose "Skip setup", switch servers and try again... no need to reboot.

prbassplayer said:
Please post in the correct forum. Development forum is not meant to make random inquiries. If you didn't make it it does not merit a new forum in development section. Also this has been asked before so please search before making a new thread. /moved to General.
Cheers
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My apologies prbassplayer, I thought that maybe this was out of step for this part of the forum -wasn't entirely sure. Noted and understood.

jimbridgman said:
Please DON'T install any of these pre-release updates!
They really are not meant for "normal" use.
You are best to wait for one of us devs to create a stable ROM out of these updates for everyone to flash. Either that or wait about 2 more weeks and Motorola will release the real deal through the proper OTA channels. When we had the 2.3.6 leaks, it was about 2-3 weeks before the "Official" OTA came out.
If you flash this it has the potential to lock your phone down even more than it already is, that or make a brick out of it.
If you find an update the best thing to do is to upload it someplace like say dropbox... then post a post in the General section with the link to it, asking us devs to look it over.
If you don't have a dropbox space, see my signature, it is 100% free for 2.5GB of space, and if you refer people you get more free space.
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Gotcha, Jim. I have a dropbox account, but don't figure I'd be lucky enough to score the first ICS update for US and/or AT&T. At any rate, I'll keep on truckin' along just to help out...

Apex_Strider said:
Gotcha, Jim. I have a dropbox account, but don't figure I'd be lucky enough to score the first ICS update for US and/or AT&T. At any rate, I'll keep on truckin' along just to help out...
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You never know. I just hope that we hit these servers so much that we keep them pretty unusable, and MOTO gets so annoyed that they speed it up and get the stable version out faster.

alteredlikeness said:
"Connection Failed" just means that that server is down.. choose "Skip setup", switch servers and try again... no need to reboot.
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Where do these servers come from, are they official Moto servers?

jimbridgman said:
You never know. I just hope that we hit these servers so much that we keep them pretty unusable, and MOTO gets so annoyed that they speed it up and get the stable version out faster.
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We can only hope! What differences will 4.0 have over our now 2.3.6 -why is this so sought after? (N00B question)
EDIT: Other than that which I have seen around the forum, being that the UI is different among other (seemingly indifferent) differences... at least to my untrained brain.

jimbridgman said:
You never know. I just hope that we hit these servers so much that we keep them pretty unusable, and MOTO gets so annoyed that they speed it up and get the stable version out faster.
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Was thinking something like that the other day it is like a ddos attack (imma fire my laser) with all the people on cheesecake now.....

Testers needed

I need 5 testers to test this official stock Jelly Bean build based on the Asian Jelly Bean leak.
I am uploading it now, and it should take about an hour or so to complete.
What I need are the first 5 people that reply to this thread will be picked, if there are more replies, and someone is not able to right away, then I will get with the next people. This is a first come first picked type of a thing.
Now for the requirements:
1) You must have an AT&T branded phone.
2) You must use your phone is in the US (those outside the US will have more work to be done, and I can work with those later on).
3) You must be able to trouble shoot just a little bit, since I do not have my Atrix2 anymore and you will have to be my hands and eyes.
4) You also can not have an issue with having root on your phone (I know some prefer not to have root).
5) You must know how to use RSD lite and apply the proper fxz, in case anything goes wrong.
Ok, so with all that out of the way. Just reply here and say that you want to test this, and I will PM the people to test once the upload completes.

Sign me up!
I have AT&T running stock ICS rooted and ready to go.

Im in. Att rooted on stock ics rooted. 1.2 g processor.
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Count me in.
Sent from my "security" enabled smartphone.

I'm in.
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Sign me up man!
Stoked haha.
Thanks jim!

OK that is six testers, since alteredlikeness already communicated with me about testing it too.
Anyone else who replies after this post will be on an as needed basis.
Thanks everyone!

Jim ill test if u need
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count me in as an 'as needed'. I've also got the bionic lapdock so will happily relay how things work on that end as well.

I'm in for the att outside US thing
sent from the gray stuff inside my skull

demonoid phenomenom said:
I'm in for the att outside US thing
sent from the gray stuff inside my skull
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Ditto.

demonoid phenomenom said:
I'm in for the att outside US thing
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Cool. I will PM you tomorrow. I will be seeking apns and a few other things. Then I will update and you can test.

RoadToNever said:
Ditto.
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Same as with demonoid_phenomenom, I'll hit you up tomorrow.

PM's have been sent, and I have asked for any issues to be PM'd to me instead of in here.
Those that I did not PM, if things check out, I will give you first "preview" tomorrow while I get the att phones outside the US testing, and before I post it up in the Dev section.

jimbridgman said:
PM's have been sent, and I have asked for any issues to be PM'd to me instead of in here.
Those that I did not PM, if things check out, I will give you first "preview" tomorrow while I get the att phones outside the US testing, and before I post it up in the Dev section.
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The people you PM'd must be pretty cool, quick general question about your ROM, do I need to download any GApps packages?

Co2Noss said:
The people you PM'd must be pretty cool, quick general question about your ROM, do I need to download any GApps packages?
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No. This is a PURE motorola stock ROM, and as such has all the bloat and the GApps too.
No, no one is any cooler than the others... I PM'd you too... I just went with the first 5 people that replied in here, just like I said in the OP. That really is the ONLY fair way to do it. I also choose five because that happens to be the limit as to how many people you can PM at once in the same PM.

S'all good. I'll be checking the forums periodically to see if I'm needed. I've still got the Craptivate lying around if I manage to brick the A2. lol.

I am available for testing- I am rooted
In case I am not selected, which thread will receive updates on testing progress?

jimbridgman said:
No. This is a PURE motorola stock ROM, and as such has all the bloat and the GApps too.
No, no one is any cooler than the others... I PM'd you too... I just went with the first 5 people that replied in here, just like I said in the OP. That really is the ONLY fair way to do it. I also choose five because that happens to be the limit as to how many people you can PM at once in the same PM.
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Oh you didn't pick up on my sarcasm Jim. Haha :victory:

Co2Noss said:
Oh you didn't pick up on my sarcasm Jim. Haha :victory:
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LOL

When will factory images be released?

What is essential waiting on to release their factory images? Is it the lawsuit against them? Or have they decided to go back on their word please essential your device would be better if you did and your customers would be happier!

I think its the wrong Forum.
You must ask Essential or Andy Rubin himself.
Every PH-1 owner is waiting lik you. :victory: :fingers-crossed:

dispatcher2412 said:
What is essential waiting on to release their factory images? Is it the lawsuit against them? Or have they decided to go back on their word please essential your device would be better if you did and your customers would be happier!
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You may as well ask what tonight's winning lottery numbers will be. They'll drop when they drop.

I get my **** together and wrote them a email.
I will post the answer if i get one.
Greetz Kaz

At this rate, they will never be released. Phone has been out for 2 months and no ETA on factory images.

colorado_al said:
At this rate, they will never be released. Phone has been out for 2 months and no ETA on factory images.
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Yeah, I agree with you here. I have a slight feeling they might actually never get released. Additionally, leaving the consumer in the dark so blatantly is somewhat annoying.

But why have they a TUT how to unlock the bootloader?

Serial Kazama said:
I get my **** together and wrote them a email.
I will post the answer if i get one.
Greetz Kaz
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You're going to get the same stock reply the rest of us have gotten. Something to the effect that they plan on releasing them, but don't have an ETA at this time. I harass them any time they tweet something. My reply is always, "image files, please".

I'm guessing images will come when they finish the next major update. Why release images for a build that will be replaced shortly after? A month ago in an AMA, they said they were almost done preparing for system images and that they were fast tracking the Oct. security patch update. What I take from that is they were prioritizing that update to get it out fast, which likely put other efforts behind. If the system images were almost ready for release, then perhaps they're just sitting on it for the time being.
If it were me, I'd wait on releasing old system images if newer builds were expected to be ready shortly after. Yes, I understand people may want to revert to an older build for one reason or another. But putting out old builds for users to use, flash, take apart, etc. only for a new one to come out shortly after is kind of wasting those users' time in some regards.

I have hope so i wait.

Number one reasons holding my purchase back on this phone. I want to see official root and TWRP released before buying.
If no development gonna start on this phone, I'll wait to see the official OnePlus 5t announcement, as I know that will have big XDA development.

Development is already happening.
Lineage is available, but not on xda yet. If you search the forum, you'll find what your looking for.

johnny8910 said:
Development is already happening.
Lineage is available, but not on xda yet. If you search the forum, you'll find what your looking for.
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In what section on this forum? And is there an unofficial twrp to flash

Search for the Discord link.
TWRP works, but not fully.

dispatcher2412 said:
In what section on this forum? And is there an unofficial twrp to flash
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..just this once:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74389775&postcount=16

Here is my answer, that came really quick:
"Hi Criss,
Thank you for reaching out. Glad you are enjoying the phone!
We are developer friendly, and have started the process of uploading files to support building custom ROMs. We have recently released the kernel source to Essential.com/developer, and the factory images should be coming within the next few weeks. I don't have a confirmed date to provide at this point though.
Hope that helps. If you have any additional questions, please don't hesitate to reach out. Enjoy your day!
Sincerely,
Erich
Essential Customer Experience Team"

Serial Kazama said:
Here is my answer, that came really quick:
"Hi Criss,
Thank you for reaching out. Glad you are enjoying the phone!
We are developer friendly, and have started the process of uploading files to support building custom ROMs. We have recently released the kernel source to Essential.com/developer, and the factory images should be coming within the next few weeks. I don't have a confirmed date to provide at this point though.
Hope that helps. If you have any additional questions, please don't hesitate to reach out. Enjoy your day!
Sincerely,
Erich
Essential Customer Experience Team"
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I hope the system images come quickly. I'm slated to receive the phone by the 9th, so it's be nice to have some custom roms within a few weeks of receiving the device.

Serial Kazama said:
Here is my answer, that came really quick:
"Hi Criss,
Thank you for reaching out. Glad you are enjoying the phone!
We are developer friendly, and have started the process of uploading files to support building custom ROMs. We have recently released the kernel source to Essential.com/developer, and the factory images should be coming within the next few weeks. I don't have a confirmed date to provide at this point though.
Hope that helps. If you have any additional questions, please don't hesitate to reach out. Enjoy your day!
Sincerely,
Erich
Essential Customer Experience Team"
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Yep, pretty much the same response I received weeks ago.

I Would like to upgrade from my Nexus 6 to PH-1 specially with all these price drops but without factory images anything goes wrong and you can't fastboot back to stock
I won't pull the trigger until they release it. I want root/TWRP/xposed working on this device
btw anybody knows if the dual boot thing similar to the Pixels is going to be a problem for xposed framework?
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sgloki77 said:
I Would like to upgrade from my Nexus 6 to PH-1 specially with all these price drops but without factory images anything goes wrong and you can't fastboot back to stock
I won't pull the trigger until they release it. I want root/TWRP/xposed working on this device
btw anybody knows if the dual boot thing similar to the Pixels is going to be a problem for xposed framework?
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Everything already works. I'm rooted, have twrp (semi functional) and running xposed