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I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.
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SamsungJohn said:
I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.
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I'm not sure there are a lot of expectations here to be let down. We know that in most cases you probably wouldn't be able to offer us beta, or even alpha firmware and software to develop with or on. RC firmware and software would be just as much out of the question so we're down to what is already out, or something that is leaked by people friendly to the development communities that take the chance of getting in to a lot of trouble. So I don't really know what you have to offer yet. I am curious to find out, though.
Dear john, you have sparked a lot of interest, we are drooling at the mouth do you have any gingerbread for us, or dare I speak of honeycomb? ;-)
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"IF" this where to happen it would be a good thing for both samsung and xda for the simple fact that it would help us make better mods for the samsung community and would allow samsung to release things that are more open to modding and customizations that all of us around here love and enjoy making (or in my case learning to make)...hope all goes well with this.
I am a dubious person and do not have expectations as I am still uncertain as to your intentions and more importantly you identity.
But if all is as you say I would take back to the powers that be, many are obviously unhappy with having to run outdated software in the form of the OS on what was at the time of purchase cutting edge hardware.
Give us a option. Give us a way to open the phone up and flash a AOSP option. A more Nexus-ish approach would be fantastic.
The Mainstream will have what they require in a stock configuration and we the ones that know what the potential of the device is can help you in pushing it to its limits.
Well I'm trying to get my post count up so I can comment in development. Anywho kudos to samsung.
Thanks again John, I'm excited and look forward to hearing your announcement!
For those skeptics, he's been trying to prove that he's legit;
http://img602.imageshack.us/i/20110211164013.jpg/
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http://img841.imageshack.us/i/20110211205219.jpg/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11300099&postcount=78
He already posted these in the captivate forum, let's show him a better welcome while we wait for final details!
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Dear john, you have sparked a lot of interest, we are drooling at the mouth do you have any gingerbread for us, or dare I speak of honeycomb? ;-)
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Honeycomb is made for tablets so I don't think that really helps us. And I highly doubt Samsung is going to release Gingerbread directly to XDA if at all.
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Honeycomb is made for tablets so I don't think that really helps us. And I highly doubt Samsung is going to release Gingerbread directly to XDA if at all.
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maybe samsung will use us for testing and maybe some tweaking...that would give us a chance to develop on it before its officially released and we would just plain out have it early, cause if you give the devs here like 2 weeks with just about anything it will be fully modded and running to its full potential!!!
props to xda devs!!!
Everyone please come over to this thread.
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Hopefully their next approach works out better, they should have known better than to open a topic up to the entire forum
They should probably have moderator's from each device take questions from their users, then they could collaborate and get only the good questions answered. (and you wouldn't have to deal with trolls/flames/etc.)
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Everyone please come over to this thread.
Thanks,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11375386#post11375386
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I suppose the question *since we can't ask specifics* is....
What can you do to help us and or what tools can you provide to the DEVs to help us get every bit of Awesome out of the device that we can.
Put the ball in your court.
Glad THIS thread is still open...
(Does SamsungJohn know how forums work?!?)
ANYhoo... I'm a give 'em enough rope to hang themselves kinda guy and I've actually been recommending the Mesmerize & Fascinate to friends that need new phones based solely on the great XDA community and what they can get those phones to do using only a bread tie, three pennies, and a jar of Cheez Wiz. Kudos to the devs once again!
I had no delusions that Samsung was a great manufacturer... my TV and DVD/home theater unit have had their share of problems... and I was also aware of the OS update delays in other product lines before I got my phone so that wasn't a big surprise either. BUT, I got in on the free phone thing through USCC and (if I EVER get my $80 rebate) I'll still consider being a Mesmerize owner/user a WIN.
What I see here is a classic example of a company that has the OBVIOUS solution within their grasp and they are actively choosing to find an alternative to it that will provide them SHORT TERM monetary gains. They have set themselves up for failure and they have only themselves to blame. Here's a vocabulary lesson for SamsungJohn et al... crowdsourcing
Guys if you haven't read through it, that topic was closed by a moderator because it was an experiment that failed miserably. (because the general XDA population isn't very good at reading and following instruction, and it turned into a huge flamefest.)
John has been confirmed by several sources to be who he says he is (at least works for samsung) and is here working with the XDA administration to (in an organized way) swap feedback with the developing community (on all samsung products).
On a side note Supercurio has been in correspondence with Korean Samsung and has been also pushing for this very thing to happen, but from what I've read i'ts pure coincidence that John arrived when he did.
Anyway, sounds to me like we need to be patient as information IS coming as soon as they figure out the best way to go about this whole thing. This is how I've taken things from what I've read today, don't quote me....
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Here's a vocabulary lesson for SamsungJohn et al... crowdsourcing
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In all fairness Crowdsourceing is what the whole AOSP is about. Android was and is developed to be Open Source. So if a company is reaching out to the community it can't be all bad.
I just think that for the most part a lot of us here are end users.
While I am sure that others like me want to, and strive to learn more, we simply will not be on a par with the current crop of DEVs as they progress as well.
I think the idea of a couple DEVs from each of the respective forums of the variations of the SGS platforms being in contact is a smart idea.
Dcows, Phidelt, and of course JT and many of the OPs in the Samsung Fascinate IRC channel would be obvious choices.
In fact a meeting of the minds in a channel of choice with only participants having voice would be nice as well.
I do understand and hope that SamsungJohn does know as well that most here are simply end users and just wanna know when we will get xxx or yyy ..
I will now go back to my corner get my Java Text out and see if I can learn, learn, learn....
If samsung really wants to get in good with the developement community, they would be wise to make it entirely official, and go to engadget or someone with a press release. If you want to gain our trust, give everyone the AOSP build.
Do I want sammy to be community-minded? Absolutely.
Am I going to trust one guy who says he works for our manufacturer? Well, let's get to the root of that. Do I trust the company who created out hardware? Not at all.
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Yeah I frequent the irc with those guys and we're always willing to help people... I think a lot of people come to forums just to get help and information rather than to develop and theme and stuff like we do. It would probably be more beneficial for Samsungjohn to maybe set up a date on the irc and say like "I will be on from x time to y time" and then people can get on and ask questions and talk about things, and more of the power users who use the irc regularly will get a chance to maybe learn some stuff or help out Samsung.
It would also make it much easier to control, if things get out of hand then the OPs can simply kick or ban the culprits.
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Hello all,
I need a sbf rom for the atrix2.
We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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not a waste of time, just no way of flashing it right now
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sbf is NOT a custom rom. its a stock flash.
i dont think you fully understand the bootloader on the atrix....please keep the negativity towards the devs out of here.
As of right now all we really need to use is factory reset if something gets messed up. Custom Roms sounds nice but I'm more interested in overclock this puppy and adding some extra lock screens. *sits and waits patiently*
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As of right now all we really need to use is factory reset if something gets messed up. Custom Roms sounds nice but I'm more interested in overclock this puppy and adding some extra lock screens. *sits and waits patiently*
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i think at the moment, as SBF is more important than a custom rom. we NEED the ability to go back to factory...
Sbf is step 1 toward getting the Atrix 2 development friendly.
I laughed out loud when I saw your post on the official moto forum, cheetablaze, it was a good try though.
We don't typically provide these files to the consumers as they are not customer friendly.
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More like THEY'RE not customer friendly.
I was messaging the admin all night and he wouldn't do it. Said he could give it up. But there's no reason to yet. Maybe after an update is officially released he will give it up. I'll keep complaining also lol
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I was messaging the admin all night and he wouldn't do it. Said he could give it up. But there's no reason to yet. Maybe after an update is officially released he will give it up. I'll keep complaining also lol
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i was impressed that they immediately locked the thread as well.
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sbf is NOT a custom rom. its a stock flash.
i dont think you fully understand the bootloader on the atrix....please keep the negativity towards the devs out of here.
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Did I say it was a custom rom or did you assume thats what I meant? What did I say negatively about any dev? I'll be the first to admit I dont know jack about the bootloader, thats no secret, hence my thread asking why its necessary to unlock it to dev roms for it. Thats all.
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What is this bashing people at xda ? Atrix 2 owners need a sbf and respectable member for providing the sbf is daywalker04, pm him and ask for the sbf. He will ask for some files from your phone and then he will try to locate the file for all of us.
Please keep nice and dont let anyone ruin atrix2 forums like they did at the original atrix forums.
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Did I say it was a custom rom or did you assume thats what I meant? What did I say negatively about any dev? I'll be the first to admit I dont know jack about the bootloader, thats no secret, hence my thread asking why its necessary to unlock it to dev roms for it. Thats all.
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re-read your comment. if it wasnt meant to be derogatory, then fine. you made it sound as if devs owed you a rom, even if it was stock based. i dont think you understand what devving a rom entails. please stop comparing this to the sony you used to have. i can tell you from my experience with motorola, htc, and samsung that none of them are similar....im going to assume that sony would be different as well. just because something works for one device does NOT mean it will work for another. same reason we couldnt get anything really decent over on the atrix until the BL was unlocked. every device is different, some even within the same manufacturer dont act the same as another within. patience, please. i dont know if you noticed, but there arent exactly a ton of developers coming over to the atrix2 side of things right now. we will work with what we have. now that i have my vivid, i can start focusing on tearing up the atrix 2.
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We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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What is this bashing people at xda ? Atrix 2 owners need a sbf and respectable member for providing the sbf is daywalker04, pm him and ask for the sbf. He will ask for some files from your phone and then he will try to locate the file for all of us.
Please keep nice and dont let anyone ruin atrix2 forums like they did at the original atrix forums.
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agreed. i came over here from atrix forums in hopes that we could have a nice community without all the BS that took place over there.
i will talk to daywalker04 and see if he can assist.
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agreed. i came over here from atrix forums in hopes that we could have a nice community without all the BS that took place over there.
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I agree totally!!!
the x10 forums were horrible.
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re-read your comment. if it wasnt meant to be derogatory, then fine. you made it sound as if devs owed you a rom, even if it was stock based. i dont think you understand what devving a rom entails. please stop comparing this to the sony you used to have. i can tell you from my experience with motorola, htc, and samsung that none of them are similar....im going to assume that sony would be different as well. just because something works for one device does NOT mean it will work for another. same reason we couldnt get anything really decent over on the atrix until the BL was unlocked. every device is different, some even within the same manufacturer dont act the same as another within. patience, please. i dont know if you noticed, but there arent exactly a ton of developers coming over to the atrix2 side of things right now.
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LMAO. You come at me sideways based on your assumption and/or misinterpretation and the best you could come up with is "fine"? Not even an attempt at an apology or acceptance of your inappropriate reaction? Wow, ok. Seems kind of counterproductive to your wanting a peaceful forum with no bashing when you're the one coming in pointing the finger at me for doing something I didnt even do. And then you cant even man up and own the fact that you overreacted and apologize for doing so. Sweet!
I've already made it clear my level of understanding of not only the Android system but also the Atrix 2, not gonna rehash that.
Check my resume here on xda, I have never been one of those guys who felt like any developer owed me anything! I'm always appreciative of anything I have ever gotten from them and have even donated to a couple (unsolicited) to show my appreciation for their work so for you to even insinuate anything other ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS BASED YOUR MISINTERPRETATION AND/OR MISUNDERSTANDING of what I said is offensive and disrespectful.
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LMAO. You come at me sideways based on your assumption and/or misinterpretation and the best you could come up with is "fine"? Not even an attempt at an apology or acceptance of your inappropriate reaction? Wow, ok. Seems kind of counterproductive to your wanting a peaceful forum with no bashing when you're the one coming in pointing the finger at me for doing something I didnt even do. And then you cant even man up and own the fact that you overreacted and apologize for doing so. Sweet!
I've already made it clear my level of understanding of not only the Android system but also the Atrix 2, not gonna rehash that.
Check my resume here on xda, I have never been one of those guys who felt like any developer owed me anything! I'm always appreciative of anything I have ever gotten from them and have even donated to a couple (unsolicited) to show my appreciation for their work so for you to even insinuate anything other ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS BASED YOUR MISINTERPRETATION AND/OR MISUNDERSTANDING of what I said is offensive and disrespectful.
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take 5 minutes.
go read your post again from the perspective of someone thats working on a rom already, then come back here and tell me it didnt sound bad. it sounded resentful that nobody had spit out any roms for you to play with yet.
its people like you that make me want to get rid of the phone or keep all my work to myself.
im done with this conversation. i dont owe you an apology or a rom. from now on, all my work will be elsewhere for the a2...
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take 5 minutes.
go read your post again from the perspective of someone thats working on a rom already, then come back here and tell me it didnt sound bad. it sounded resentful that nobody had spit out any roms for you to play with yet.
its people like you that make me want to get rid of the phone or keep all my work to myself.
im done with this conversation. i dont owe you an apology or a rom. from now on, all my work will be elsewhere for the a2...
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There was NOTHING negative about me saying apparrently the devs feel its a waste of time to dev a stock based rom. How you can conclude that I feel like a dev owes me a rom or that im being negative towards them is beyond me.
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Don't bite the hand that feeds you. xD He's really the only guy working toward anything major for the A2 and you're post did kinda sound like it's an expectation that a rom be made for us.
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Don't bite the hand that feeds you. xD He's really the only guy working toward anything major for the A2 and you're post did kinda sound like it's an expectation that a rom be made for us.
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Sorry guy, he's nowhere near that important to me. If I said "koriflame doesnt like milk", does that sound like I meant that you should like milk?
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Sorry guy, he's nowhere near that important to me.
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i hope you do get a dev that will put up with your attitude, because i sure as hell wont.
good luck fellas!
I need to make an apology. Another dev had to do this earlier and now it is my turn.
He was right. We are all a bit angry at people who are posting unnecessary things, but that is no excuse to be rude. I still maintain that this forum has one of the best communities, and I will not let anyone tell me otherwise. I started on this forum in april of this year. That is 4 months ago. Look what I have accomplished. I am nowhere near the level of some of our other devs, but I am so much better than I was then. I WAS a N00B. I was that person with a million questions.
I remember the first time I soft bricked. It was late at night and all of a sudden that beautiful boot animation that I just realized cold be changed started repeating itself after I tried to flash an update to scv5. I panicked. I opened up the lifehacker article on unbricking, posted a new thread with a stupid question, and I started to realize I had no money to buy a new phone. Bottom line is it was the end of the world for me.
But, thanks to all the wonderful people here, i got it fixed. My heartbeat was probably 200 while the fxz flashed, but I got it done
I now bootloop every other day practically. restoring is no problem. ICS was a whole different story, but that is not for here. That is when I had my first hardbrick. but once again thanks to the help of others I am now on scv7 with some mods to it.
To all of you who have posted stupid unnecessary things, and yes there are many I am sorry. as the Moderator Moscow Desire said in a PM after me posting a rude response that lead to me writing this "n00bs will always be at XDA. This is a fact of life. Yes, they post stupid things sometimes, and yes, they will always NEVER do a search or read other posts. It's always been like this. And yes, it gets frustrating at times."
We know you are out their. and we can try to stop it, but there will be people who do dumb things. But that is not an excuse for any of us to be rude to them. Those of us who are more knowledgeable about dev stuff should be helping those who aren't. My mom always told me in school that there will always be bosses you hate just like your teachers, and coworkers you hate st like your classmates, so you might as well learn to get along with them. She was right. we just need to get along. For us devs there is an IRC channel, and believe me we talk about this stuff, but we all get along well. so for the rest of us t needs to be the same.
Let me start this by saying i am still a N00B, saying that Initially i was also annoyed with all those questions people were asking.. i myself started a new thread trying to clear few basic questions.. but as the time went by realised that the senior community was more harsh than anything else.. the more we teach the more we learn thats what say in my part of the world.. but i believe all is well, all that is needed is that you guys get into serious ICS development once the OTA arrives.. and <3 you guys..
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I need to make an apology. Another dev had to do this earlier and now it is my turn.
He was right. We are all a bit angry at people who are posting unnecessary things, but that is no excuse to be rude. I still maintain that this forum has one of the best communities, and I will not let anyone tell me otherwise. I started on this forum in april of this year. That is 4 months ago. Look what I have accomplished. I am nowhere near the level of some of our other devs, but I am so much better than I was then. I WAS a N00B. I was that person with a million questions.
I remember the first time I soft bricked. It was late at night and all of a sudden that beautiful boot animation that I just realized cold be changed started repeating itself after I tried to flash an update to scv5. I panicked. I opened up the lifehacker article on unbricking, posted a new thread with a stupid question, and I started to realize I had no money to buy a new phone. Bottom line is it was the end of the world for me.
But, thanks to all the wonderful people here, i got it fixed. My heartbeat was probably 200 while the fxz flashed, but I got it done
I now bootloop every other day practically. restoring is no problem. ICS was a whole different story, but that is not for here. That is when I had my first hardbrick. but once again thanks to the help of others I am now on scv7 with some mods to it.
To all of you who have posted stupid unnecessary things, and yes there are many I am sorry. as the Moderator Moscow Desire said in a PM after me posting a rude response that lead to me writing this "n00bs will always be at XDA. This is a fact of life. Yes, they post stupid things sometimes, and yes, they will always NEVER do a search or read other posts. It's always been like this. And yes, it gets frustrating at times."
We know you are out their. and we can try to stop it, but there will be people who do dumb things. But that is not an excuse for any of us to be rude to them. Those of us who are more knowledgeable about dev stuff should be helping those who aren't. My mom always told me in school that there will always be bosses you hate just like your teachers, and coworkers you hate st like your classmates, so you might as well learn to get along with them. She was right. we just need to get along. For us devs there is an IRC channel, and believe me we talk about this stuff, but we all get along well. so for the rest of us t needs to be the same.
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I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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Yeah, but on the other side of the coin, if you are on XDA that means you are looking to experiment, you want to try new things, you need a fast and functional ROM or that mod you like so much or simply want to root it and then there are few who are here just to learn.
But for all this you gotta have few attributes
1. Guts
2. Little knowledge
3. Able to go through few threads before starting anything
4. And last but most important, knowing where the search button is.
This still a n00b saying this, dont get me wrong. I am here to learn, i am getting into it slowly but surely. Thanks to the devs.
Ps: this post os taken better in lighter vein!!!
Speak only when it improves on your silence.
I think it is a huge deal to see a post like this. Kudos to you, Ikrasner! You have been much help to everyone, along with the rest of the devs. Thank you all for your time!
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I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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Well it is really not patients that is the problem that we are all having at the moment. It is the fact that everyone now seems to think they are the ONLY one with a certain problem with x, and rather than posting in the thread that deals with x they make a new thread, and then when you ask why they did not search it is always "I searched, and none of the threads deal with MY exact issue".
The issue with this is that is shows a lack of respect for everyone in here, that might be working on an issue, and that person just bumped another thread that might have that or a similar issue in it, and now everyone is reading that new glowing orange thread on the board.
The next issue is that people have to trust us.
Next, it seems we have a new rash of noobs that don't want to listen and then still post a new thread when their issues is not solved in another thread and then keep bumping that thread if no one replies.
Again these are all thing that show alot of issues and lack of respect to your dev team, we are here to help, but the more you guys all help us, the more we can help you.
P.S. I had to post this same thread a few weeks back, because of all the frustrations as well.... see a pattern here.
I know what you mean, its like you cant even blink in this forum, without starting a witch hunt.
I just joined XDA not long ago and I too have noticed a lot of pointless threads. I admit I did post a stupid question before, but I found the answer myself and went back and changed my question. But I did not go and make a new thread about it. I think the issue is A. people are lazy in general, and B. There is so much to try and wrap your head around, and no one wants to brick their device. I only have 1 device and I would love to try experimenting with different ROMs and things, because I am constantly wanting a new phone. I have had the A2 for about 9 months now and I am bored with it. But I have that fear of bricking it and then I am screwed. So for now I will continue to search through different threads and try to learn as much as I possible can before I jump in and try flashing ROMs. I notice some people just try flashing ROMs without really any knowledge then post new threads with the issues that they have. If they would just take the time to read through threads prior to jumping in there would be less of this issue. I just want to Thank all the Devs here that put so much time into all the work they do here!! Definitely the best mobile dev community out there!!
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I have had the A2 for about 9 months now and I am bored with it.
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dude i had the same ROM for 9 months before, without a single wipe, and i never got close to bored, the hw buttons messed up so i had to sell. your phone isnt your game console or gf ... its a phone, no offense
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dude i had the same ROM for 9 months before, without a single wipe, and i never got close to bored, the hw buttons messed up so i had to sell. your phone isnt your game console or gf ... its a phone, no offense
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
I have no idea what section I'm in or what you're apologizing for, but I love you too man.
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
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TMI, me thinks.
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TMI, me thinks.
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FYI that was a joke. but i do hook my phone to my tv and use it as a game console with my PS3 controller
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FYI that was a joke. but i do hook my phone to my tv and use it as a game console with my PS3 controller
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I know, it was amusing. But the fact that you're feeling the urge for clarification makes me second guess that was a "joke". (I'm kidding)
That's what we need more of here, people with a sense of humor. I applaud you for that, hopefully the lighthearted approach will carry through with the other "business class" folk.
I sit in the back of the bus, that one being driven straight to hell, if you know what I mean...
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
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im not gonna lie me myself often sleep next to/on it but damn...
maybe if it was a sgs3
hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM
u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch
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u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch
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Hope i don't get flamed for this
Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.
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Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.
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I already know that nothing is guranteed but looking at situation one can atleast judge what is up in store.Right now that dev section is kinda stagnant and devs are upto something in secret and that is absolutely fine considering what moto has done in past.So a small heads up would always be welcomed.
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hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM
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Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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HA! Love the word play there.
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Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.
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Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.
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You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team hasn't bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team has bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.
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For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.
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You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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So true.very well said bro.
athani said:
You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
Edit: I really wasn't trying to be a jerk, but when someone - anyone - makes a post, they should expect to have it open for discussion. That's all I was engaging in.
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
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Sir, whatever made you think I was referring to your posts ! Relax
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Sir, whatever made you think I was talking about you! Relax.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.
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I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can be befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can he befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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I wasn't arguing semantics. It's something that requires serious introspection among some guys here.
Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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I think the resale value will be adversely affected because of real or perceived lack of after sales support.
About chance to own a Motorola phone, I think that is less of a consideration as these days, everything is available on ebay India.
Hey guys!
I am getting this weird error at boot logo-
"customerID error: contact dealer
Boot to suspend m/TCMD mode:dead:0000:00000000:000000cc" something like this.
It wasn't giving me any problems with kexec roms(This error was generated when I flashed a kexec rom). But when I FXZd back to ICS 4.0.4(due to some reason), it's giving me an illuminated screen nothing past that! Please help.
Edit- Did my homework and found out that it's the CID error? Also found the solution. You have to boot using BP tools. I love you XDA!! Again I'm gonna write steps here for noobs like me
1) Enter fast boot by pressing power+volume down
2) Press power button, then press power+volume up+volume down
3) navigate to bp tools and press volume up
Just realize, this does not fix the real issue, it just bypasses the check.
You most likely will have issues down the road with your provider.
The ONLY way to fix this is restore a backup of YOUR, CID image (each persons phone has a unique Customer ID).
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Just realize, this does not fix the real issue, it just bypasses the check.
You most likely will have issues down the road with your provider.
The ONLY way to fix this is restore a backup of YOUR, CID image (each persons phone has a unique Customer ID).
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Thanks for the info! Yeah I read it. So, can I backup CID now using BMM? Or is it lost forever?
What issues may I face with provider? IDK what you meant by "provider"? As in AT&T?
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Thanks for the info! Yeah I read it. So, can I backup CID now using BMM? Or is it lost forever?
What issues may I face with provider? IDK what you meant by "provider"? As in AT&T?
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Yes if that is who your network provider is, otherwise it is whoever gives you your service. This is sent to your provider with the IMEI when phone calls and data are requested. At some point your provider may stop allowing service from any phone that does not send back a valid CID.
No you can not put it back without a valid backup from YOUR phone, if you did not backup your phone, you may be screwed.
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Yes if that is who your network provider is, otherwise it is whoever gives you your service. This is sent to your provider with the IMEI when phone calls and data are requested. At some point your provider may stop allowing service from any phone that does not send back a valid CID.
No you can not put it back without a valid backup from YOUR phone, if you did not backup your phone, you may be screwed.
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Dude that sh it happens only in the US not in India where we are all from it makes no difference here .......
We get the AT&T model for real cheap so we end up buying it i got mine for like 150 dollars XD (Works like mint) :laugh:
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Dude that sh it happens only in the US not in India where we are all from it makes no difference here .......
We get the AT&T model for real cheap so we end up buying it i got mine for like 150 dollars XD (Works like mint) :laugh:
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Yeah the A2 is super cheap here, and always has been. The thing is that this phone was released in way more than just the sea area. There is the US version, the SEARET/MEARET, the HK version, there were 2 euro versions, that somehow only released a very limited number of phones, it was like in Greece and the UK, and then they stopped shipping them after only 2 months of sales (only like a few hundred).
ALL versions except the MEARET/SEARET were locked down so tight that anything you tried to do to them would screw you. And yes everywhere but in India the CID does matter, so please read, as this has been posted many times, and your posting what you did does not make it a fact, but maybe only in your country/ phone version. Also the XDA site does not only cater to the India market, it is a world wide site, and like I said the A2 was released world wide.
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Yeah the A2 is super cheap here, and always has been. The thing is that this phone was released in way more than just the sea area. There is the US version, the SEARET/MEARET, the HK version, there were 2 euro versions, that somehow only released a very limited number of phones, it was like in Greece and the UK, and then they stopped shipping them after only 2 months of sales (only like a few hundred).
ALL versions except the MEARET/SEARET were locked down so tight that anything you tried to do to them would screw you. And yes everywhere but in India the CID does matter, so please read, as this has been posted many times, and your posting what you did does not make it a fact, but maybe only in your country/ phone version. Also the XDA site does not only cater to the India market, it is a world wide site, and like I said the A2 was released world wide.
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Ya but you do realize that the majority of the devlopers as well as users even the guy who posted this question was from India so
I LIKE TO PLEASE THE MASSSES!!!! :laugh:
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Ya but you do realize that the majority of the devlopers as well as users even the guy who posted this question was from India so
I LIKE TO PLEASE THE MASSSES!!!! :laugh:
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ALL THOSE INDIANS IN D HOUSE GIVE ME A HIGH FIVE !!!!!
(PS:You COULD press that button that says THANKS ) Bharat mata ki jai lol :laugh:
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Ya but you do realize that the majority of the devlopers as well as users even the guy who posted this question was from India so
I LIKE TO PLEASE THE MASSSES!!!! :laugh:
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ALL THOSE INDIANS IN D HOUSE GIVE ME A HIGH FIVE !!!!!
(PS:You COULD press that button that says THANKS ) Bharat mata ki jai lol :laugh:
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Wow, what an ignorant little ****, you are.
There are 3 devs from India. Devesh, Ravikrang, and Turffe. ALL of the rest of the devs are from the US, and one is from Frankfurt, and even one from China.
alteredlikeness, Hashcode, lfaber06, lkrasner, rdavisct, timmytim, daavis, cogeary, myself, etc. are ALL from the US.
Wanggjhost is from China.
The thing is that devesh, is a great guy but he mostly ports ROMS from other phones, and does really do much "developing", so you can sort of throw him out, if you want to really count people who have actually done real development work on this phone.
So humm, sounds like there are so many developers from India on here (2), and I have not seen either one very recently, on here.
Just because there are a crapload of people, from India (right now) posting in the General and Q&A section asking the same questions without searching, over and over again does not make them devs.
It might help you, if you go back and read all over this forum so you know what has and has not been done. The answers to most of the questions have been answered so many times now, and I have given you a break since you just signed up on XDA a month ago, but as of this post that is done, as you insulted so many devs, who do this work all for free in their spare time, to better the phone and community, and you can not even show respect for those devs, and make statements so arrogantly when you do not have all the correct information, and were just too lazy to take a look at who your devs are, and where they are from.
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Wow, what an ignorant little ****, you are.
There are 3 devs from India. Devesh, Ravikrang, and Turffe. ALL of the rest of the devs are from the US, and one is from Frankfurt, and even one from China.
alteredlikeness, Hashcode, lfaber06, lkrasner, rdavisct, timmytim, daavis, cogeary, myself, etc. are ALL from the US.
Wanggjhost is from China.
The thing is that devesh, is a great guy but he mostly ports ROMS from other phones, and does really do much "developing", so you can sort of throw him out, if you want to really count people who have actually done real development work on this phone.
So humm, sounds like there are so many developers from India on here (2), and I have not seen either one very recently, on here.
Just because there are a crapload of people, from India (right now) posting in the General and Q&A section asking the same questions without searching, over and over again does not make them devs.
It might help you, if you go back and read all over this forum so you know what has and has not been done. The answers to most of the questions have been answered so many times now, and I have given you a break since you just signed up on XDA a month ago, but as of this post that is done, as you insulted so many devs, who do this work all for free in their spare time, to better the phone and community, and you can not even show respect for those devs, and make statements so arrogantly when you do not have all the correct information, and were just too lazy to take a look at who your devs are, and where they are from.
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Hey why you getting so pissed off im just saying that the guy who posted was frm india
i never undermined how mch work you guys put in ................
no one can ever take that from you all
i was just saying a comradery thing for the indians here why did u get so serious man........
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Ya but you do realize that the majority of the devlopers as well as users even the guy who posted this question was from India so
Hey why you getting so pissed off im just saying that the guy who posted was frm india
i never undermined how mch work you guys put in ................
no one can ever take that from you all
i was just saying a comradery thing for the indians here why did u get so serious man........
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Read what you said, again!
And I Quote:
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Ya but you do realize that the majority of the devlopers was from India
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And what I originally said is correct wherever, you live, and for, the OP's, OG issue, is not just an issue for those in India, and ALL of your responses never took that into account. So, that is why I said what I said! And that Is why I took offense, as your statement about ALL the devs here being from india is incorrect, and you need to think before making blanket statements like that! As it is offensive to a good majority of hard work by others from around the world.
I get that the second post you made:
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Is just that, and not what I took offense to.
All I am trying to say is be careful what you say, as you are a bit of a "n00b" poster here, so read up on the history of this phone.
These are a few good posts, maybe a bit out of date, but you may get some insights from these, and gain a bit of understanding:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778853
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857631
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396650
Whoa!
I never knew this was so serious! I mean it was mentioned in all OPs to back up CID, but I was ignorant and was like "Ah wth!! What could possibly go wrong??" But I know now what can.
ENJOYING TILL IT LASTS I WOULD SAY!
But I don't think that would cause any problems because it's not that strict here! LOL!
@darth_nihar, please learn to respect senior devs, not that I'm pointing or anything...just giving a heads up.
We cool??
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I never knew this was so serious! I mean it was mentioned in all OPs to back up CID, but I was ignorant and was like "Ah wth!! What could possibly go wrong??" But I know now what can.
ENJOYING TILL IT LASTS I WOULD SAY!
But I don't think that would cause any problems because it's not that strict here! LOL!
@darth_nihar, please learn to respect senior devs, not that I'm pointing or anything...just giving a heads up.
We cool??
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You are lucky you live in an area where carriers are less strict about security like this. You will have to bypass thr issue with bmm on every boot and this will be a real pia. you may think about buying another a2 with a broken screen and exchange the innards with you screen ans case, then take a backup of the old and new, then try and do all the same rom installs and hacks again, and if you lose the CID, you can restore it since you made a backup with the new board/storage.
I know that seems like a lot of work, but it will make you whole and you can sell the broken phone so you are not out much money.
There is guide on how to replace the screen in the general section, that should get you everything you need to do this.
Good luck!
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You are lucky you live in an area where carriers are less strict about security like this. You will have to bypass thr issue with bmm on every boot and this will be a real pia. you may think about buying another a2 with a broken screen and exchange the innards with you screen ans case, then take a backup of the old and new, then try and do all the same rom installs and hacks again, and if you lose the CID, you can restore it since you made a backup with the new board/storage.
I know that seems like a lot of work, but it will make you whole and you can sell the broken phone so you are not out much money.
There is guide on how to replace the screen in the general section, that should get you everything you need to do this.
Good luck!
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Sounds like a great idea! But I think I would rather buy a new phone down the road(nexus maybe). Because even used phones are overpriced here.
Lesson learnt..Pheww! Gotta start saving now
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Read what you said, again!
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And what I originally said is correct wherever, you live, and for, the OP's, OG issue, is not just an issue for those in India, and ALL of your responses never took that into account. So, that is why I said what I said! And that Is why I took offense, as your statement about ALL the devs here being from india is incorrect, and you need to think before making blanket statements like that! As it is offensive to a good majority of hard work by others from around the world.
I get that the second post you made: Is just that, and not what I took offense to.
All I am trying to say is be careful what you say, as you are a bit of a "n00b" poster here, so read up on the history of this phone.
These are a few good posts, maybe a bit out of date, but you may get some insights from these, and gain a bit of understanding:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778853
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857631
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396650
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HEY SORRY IF U FELT THAT I OFFENDED YOU AND ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPERS
i know how mch hard work you put into these ROMS as well as kernels.....
i just said smthin to please that guy from nagpur who posted in the thread thats all......
just letting him know that there are a lot of us from INdia here not only him alone .........
Sorry if it got you mad at me ...........
On the contrary i actually like your work and devlopment you have put in and kinda wierd to say im a big fan of your work
so again saying that im sorry if you felt pissed of ...........:highfive:
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HEY SORRY IF U FELT THAT I OFFENDED YOU AND ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPERS
i know how mch hard work you put into these ROMS as well as kernels.....
i just said smthin to please that guy from nagpur who posted in the thread thats all......
just letting him know that there are a lot of us from INdia here not only him alone .........
Sorry if it got you mad at me ...........
On the contrary i actually like your work and devlopment you have put in and kinda wierd to say im a big fan of your work
so again saying that im sorry if you felt pissed of ...........:highfive:
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No it's cool. Just be careful what you post, and that people get your drift. Be glad it was me, and that was not really pissed, because I have had people banned for being complete pricks, not that you were. Others may not have been so gracious.
We are cool, though.
I would like to add that, though I am far from being a developer, I am also from the US. I live in Louisiana now, but I am originally from Texas, which if I remember correctly, Jim is too. If I am right about that then I can vouch for him that you did get off easy. There's a reason that the saying is " Don't mess with Texas ". We Texans are a no-nonsense group of people. Hahaha!
If I had a dollar for every time I said that, I'd be making money in a very weird way.
jimbridgman said:
No it's cool. Just be careful what you post, and that people get your drift. Be glad it was me, and that was not really pissed, because I have had people banned for being complete pricks, not that you were. Others may not have been so gracious.
We are cool, though.
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kk man wontt happen again .............:laugh:
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Wow, what an ignorant little ****, you are.
There are 3 devs from India. Devesh, Ravikrang, and Turffe. ALL of the rest of the devs are from the US, and one is from Frankfurt, and even one from China.
alteredlikeness, Hashcode, lfaber06, lkrasner, rdavisct, timmytim, daavis, cogeary, myself, etc. are ALL from the US.
Wanggjhost is from China.
The thing is that devesh, is a great guy but he mostly ports ROMS from other phones, and does really do much "developing", so you can sort of throw him out, if you want to really count people who have actually done real development work on this phone.
So humm, sounds like there are so many developers from India on here (2), and I have not seen either one very recently, on here.
Just because there are a crapload of people, from India (right now) posting in the General and Q&A section asking the same questions without searching, over and over again does not make them devs.
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Ok now you seriously crossed your line.
* crapload of people, from India (right now)*
* so you can sort of throw him out*
Seriously? He has done way more than you ever did.
As for all the *devs* you mentioned "all from US" , only 2 of them do real development. Namely hash and altered. Rdavisct and daavis used to dev.. But that was long time ago.. So you can sort of throw out the rest (including and especially yourself). And you actually spoil their reputation. Considering how humble hash and altered are..
The one who actually brought a proper working aosp (including radio) based roms to this device was Wang. And I remember the way you posted in that thread.. All the skepticism.. The only thing you ever said before this was " I am working on ril" "discussing ril on XDA is not allowed"..
As for all that you boast about yourself, here is the truth. You are a big fake.. You have actually done no development for this device. The only thing was the Ubuntu on webtop hack. And I am not really sure how original it is..
The only things you say are
1. Some thing big is on the horizon/around the corner.
2. Give credit.
3. Cannot be done.
Here is one more thing. On the a2 you always said the bl is locked so you cannot do anything. I haven't seen you do anything for the s3.. That has an unlock able bl I guess..
"and I have not seen either one very recently, on here."
Really? I come here and post pretty much every day..
Oh and if there is something you are good at, that's starting flamewars. Since you no longer have the phone any more and posted your "goodbye" thread, here is a sincere request..
PLEASE LEAVE!
Nothing worthwhile has come from you.
Honestly, you are the reason this device's development was hampered.. Not the locked bl..
BTW, here are a few worthy things devesh has done.
1. Get hash, dtrail, altered and me in contact and hence get things moving. He is half the reason we have "official" cm today. It's not you.
2. He is the whole reason we have JBX. Dtrail1 doesn't own an a2..
And at the one who posted the other post, here is something you need to keep in mind.
There are Ppl from all over the world with different nationalities, gender, race, religion and everything else. So DONT POST ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF THOSE MENTIONED.
P. S. And Ppl from any other nation, nothing personal. If I have hurt any of you in the above rant, my sincere apologies. I have respect for all nations.
Good bye.
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