I'm looking for some advice on what new phone to buy. Here is my situation. I would like to buy a phone that will work on the Bell network with 3G (high speed network) AND also work in Europe with 3G speeds.
I would prefer an Android device so it looks like i'm limited to the HTC Desire Z and the Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant. But as far as i understand both of these phones don't have UMTS 2100 frequency to get 3G in Europe. Do I just suck it up and use EDGE in Europe or do something else?
What do you recommend?
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hi guys im in need of a new phone and like the full qwerty keyboard ones, im from australia so i cant import any of the cdma ones from the us.
Im looking at getting a desire Z when it comes out but i cant wrap my head around the coverage frequencies and what it means.
i want to know how well/ which parts will work in australia, coverage wise?
the specs can be found on the europe htc site
thanks
*solved - i was confusing gsm 850mhz and 3g 850 mhz
as the phone doesnt have 850mhz 3g it will not work on the australian nextG network, but the 3g 2100mhz that is pretty well only in the major cities will work.
and gsm will work too.
Hi everyone. I’m currently living in the UK and I’m interested in the Samsung Galaxy S (i9000). Unlike in the USA, there’s only one variant and its quite expensive. Much cheaper in the USA! So I’ve been looking at the Samsung Captivate, AT&T’s Galaxy S variant.
Network
Samsung Galaxy S –
2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network
HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
Samsung Captivate –
2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
2G is exactly same band, but 3G is only 50MHz difference.
Will both 2G and 3G networks work fully in the UK?
Software
Am I correct in thinking I can remove the AT&T bloatware by flashing a custom ROM?
Can someone please suggest a good, fast lag-free 2.2 Froyo ROM?
Android Market
Am I correct in thinking I can use Market Access to change US market to UK?
Thanks for help in advance
you are confused on the 3G bands.... "only 50Mhz difference" statement is meaningless - if bands are not exact, then it won't work - period.
Having said that, the captivate will work in the UK - the 1900/2100 bands are 3G in US (ATT) and UK. You will get 2G and 3G.
alphadog00 said:
you are confused on the 3G bands.... "only 50Mhz difference" statement is meaningless - if bands are not exact, then it won't work - period.
Having said that, the captivate will work in the UK - the 1900/2100 bands are 3G in US (ATT) and UK. You will get 2G and 3G.
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Thanks for that.
What about the android market? Can I change it to UK using "Market Access" app?
Also, seeing as for 3G the first band is different (900 vs 850) will it have any affect on my 3G network connection?
The Captivate is a World Phone, meaning it will work around the world. If one 3G band doesn't work, you have 2 others, which you have already been told will work just fine
Sent from my Captivate
bilalbilal said:
Thanks for that.
What about the android market? Can I change it to UK using "Market Access" app?
Also, seeing as for 3G the first band is different (900 vs 850) will it have any affect on my 3G network connection?
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Yes, you should be able to use the Market Access app, but it takes a carrier code, not a country code. Using the phone with another SIM may set it automatically.
As for bands - you will probably find some areas where 3G is offered on a band you don't have - it is possible, but shouldn't happen any more often then if you had 900 on the phone. I took my iPhone all over EU - it was an ATT iPhone, and it worked fine with 3G. The Captivate should do just as well.
Thanks for the help guys
Not only can you flash custom ROMs, but the SetiroN kernel lets you flash regular Galaxy S ROMs onto the Captivate. If you look in the development forum here, you'll see that there's basically only one native Captivate custom ROM (Cognition); the rest are all Captivate-flavored Galaxy S adaptations using SetiroN (or its predecessor).
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Hello, I'm new to the forums.
I got here because I want to get a android cellphone that work on the 1900 MHz UMTZ 3g band because that's the band that my carrier use down here on Venezuela. I'm on a trip here on the U.S and I want to get a new phone here. I'm probably going to be buying this phone from ebay or amazon I might unlocked myself, or buy it already unlock.
For the moment the only cellphones that I have found that works on this band is:
Samsung Vibrant t-959
Samsung Captivate
Samsung Galaxy s GT-I9000
HTC Nexus one
I want a cellphone that at least have a 1ghz processor and can be use on android 2.2 (Froyo). If I have to root the cellphone for this I can do it
Is there any other cellphone that works on this band (1900 Mhz UMTS)?
Witch one will you recommend base on the pros and cons on the cellphone?
I'll be thanks if you can help me here.
any of those phones will be awsome get the i9000 its the best one it already has gingerbread and it has a ffc, i used to have the captivate great phone but the i9000 is better and there are no cons to those phones the screen is amazing
Yeah I'm liking the I9000 a lot. What I'm curios about it is that there is a T-mobile version and international version. Does both version work on the UMTS 1900 mhz band or is only the international version?
ElectroManiac said:
Yeah I'm liking the I9000 a lot. What I'm curios about it is that there is a T-mobile version and international version. Does both version work on the UMTS 1900 mhz band or is only the international version?
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the international will work on at&t's 3g and the vibrant will work on t-mobiles 3g, if i was on at&t i would get the captivate or i9000, the i9000 has a ffc but the captivate is a sexy phone and doesnt feel cheap. The vibrant though is one of the most customizable phones out there
I have both the T-Mobile and the international unlocked version. I have the latter because, in my excitement, I didn't take care to find out if it will work on T-Mobile's 3G speeds. To my dismay, it doesn't, and I have an extra phone.
I'm wondering if it will work on any other carrier's 3G/4G data speeds. Searching forums and support threads haven't gotten me any answers. Any help at all would be appreciated.
I bought mine in Britain and am using it quite happily here in Japan. T-Mobile USA has a relatively rare frequency band internationally; I think as long as you have 2100MHz and 900MHz bands, which this phone has, there should be an operator in almost every country that the phone will work on. In fact, it should work on most operators in most countries.
The phone has 850/900/2100 MHz bands for 3G; T-Mobile runs "4G" (actually 3G) on 1700/2100 aka AWS - this requires BOTH bands to be present in the phone, which is why the One S doesn't work. T-Mo USA also has 1900MHz, again not present in the One S. Can you get EDGE 2G data, which should be possible on 850MHz?
In the USA, it should work on AT&T, as they use 850MHz for 3G. Maybe you can find someone who will lend you a SIM to check it.
In Europe & Asia, it should generally work no problem.
Im wondering if anyone has gone from the Desire Z to the Galaxy S Relay 4G in Europe.
I ask for Europe to make sure it is compatible with most networks over here.
I see there is even ROM development over here with 4.4.4 running I imagine codename "Android L" will probably run as well
Thank you for the comments.
A few have had posts in the q&a or maybe general section, there aren't many posts at all here so I'm sure with minimal effort you'll find the ones I'm referring to
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riahc3 said:
Im wondering if anyone has gone from the Desire Z to the Galaxy S Relay 4G in Europe.
I ask for Europe to make sure it is compatible with most networks over here.
Thank you for the comments.
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I went from Desire Z to Galaxy S Relay, it works well in Norway.
You need to unlock the phone from T-Mobile, see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255892.
Be aware that this phone is not enabled for 4G (LTE) network, only 3.75G (HSPA+). HSPA+ is marketed as 4G in USA, not in Europe.
raphaelcno said:
I went from Desire Z to Galaxy S Relay, it works well in Norway.
You need to unlock the phone from T-Mobile, see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255892.
Be aware that this phone is not enabled for 4G (LTE) network, only 3.75G (HSPA+). HSPA+ is marketed as 4G in USA, not in Europe.
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3G works in Norway too?
I think by frequencies sadly 3G wont work here where Im at A shame.
900 MHz 3g doesn't work!
I upgraded too from Desire Z to Relay, didn't even realize any 900 Mhz problem. I get always an H or E icon (HSDPA or EDGE), so 900 MHz should be working.
According to specs, the phone should work with these networks:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
I have it in Telekom in Slovakia and in the meantime I travelled to NY and got no problem at all (I had it set to manual network selection to save roaming charges).
The phone I bought via ebay was locked (even the seller described it as unlocked) but after firmware downgrade I easily unlocked it. I recommend LiquidSmooth ROM, you'll fall in love with that phone!
My other finalist was Moto Photon Q, it supports GSM but lacks SIM card slot. If you want, there's a guy in Prague, the author of the sim card mod instruction post on xda, that can do it for you. But I chose the easier way. Now I have a small problem with display flex cable (probably too much openings/day) so I'm considering buying another Relay before they're gone with no decent qwerty phone around. And I can leave the current one for spare parts. I had to put away my DZ because of the keyboard. Some keys started to write several characters instead of one and there was no easy way to fix it.
FYI ebay deals in your name with customs, so they charge you immediately and the phone is delivered to your door without customs holding it for a week.
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T699 in the UK
Hi.
I did not owed the HTC, I used an Xpreia Pro prior to my S4 Relay. However I have the S4 relay for almost 1 year and I had no problems using it in the UK. I have traveled in Europe (France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Romania) and I was able to use it without any problems. AFAIK it works just fine on 900 Mhz but in 2G. The big question is what freq of 3G is your network provider using. For example, in UK I'm on EE network which is using 2100 Mhz for 3G and 1800 Mhz for 2G so the device works perfectly. Ifyou are on Movistar Spain than your phone will work fine, since the company is offering 2G on: 900/1800 MHz (both supported by S4 relay) and 900/2100 MHz UMTS ( from which 2100 is supported by the device). In very simple translation 2g will work everywhere without any problem, it might happen that is some places you will not get 3G signal.
Hope it helps.
Emil