hi guys im in need of a new phone and like the full qwerty keyboard ones, im from australia so i cant import any of the cdma ones from the us.
Im looking at getting a desire Z when it comes out but i cant wrap my head around the coverage frequencies and what it means.
i want to know how well/ which parts will work in australia, coverage wise?
the specs can be found on the europe htc site
thanks
*solved - i was confusing gsm 850mhz and 3g 850 mhz
as the phone doesnt have 850mhz 3g it will not work on the australian nextG network, but the 3g 2100mhz that is pretty well only in the major cities will work.
and gsm will work too.
Related
Australia's Telstra has a system called NextG. I don't know what exactly that equates to in the rest of the world but they are claiming coverage far superior to anything available before in rural areas.
Any Aussies like to chime in and tell me if my Polaris is going to work there?
I currently use a TC on telstra nextG. while I never have coverage issues I have never really checked the data speeds as I have a pc card for that.
After a bit of research it seems NextG is nothing more than 3G UTMS service, just on the (lesser used) 850Mhz band. The way the specs are written for the Polaris it sounds like a unit will support either UMTS2100 or UMTS850, but not both, depending on whether is was destined for the USA or Europe. Anyone confirm this one way or the other? I bought mine in Taiwan so I have no idea which it should support.
on a similar note I got my wife a samsung omina, while it does work on telstra 850mhz it does not have the nextG service speeds. My TC seems to work on both 2100 and 850 as I have used it with optus and telstra and optus does not have 850
fahr_side said:
After a bit of research it seems NextG is nothing more than 3G UTMS service, just on the (lesser used) 850Mhz band. The way the specs are written for the Polaris it sounds like a unit will support either UMTS2100 or UMTS850, but not both, depending on whether is was destined for the USA or Europe. Anyone confirm this one way or the other? I bought mine in Taiwan so I have no idea which it should support.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been using a Polaris both in Aus and worldwide, actually, for over 12 months.
it will connect to UMTS both 2100Mhz and 850Mhz without problem. Just set the band in Settings>Personal>Phone to automatic
Telstra uses the 2100Mhz frequency in the cities and 850Mhz for the regional areas. BTW, the 850Mhz is not "lesser used": this frequency is used for UMTS in regional areas in South America, South Africa, Australia and the US. Geographically, this is about 60% of the globe.
Hold onto the Polaris - it's the last device HTC offered that will connect to both frequencies. The reason for this is beyond the scope of this post, but it's an accurate statement.
Thanks for the replies people. Going to Aus in a few weeks and really didn't want to buy or rent another phone.
I'm looking for some advice on what new phone to buy. Here is my situation. I would like to buy a phone that will work on the Bell network with 3G (high speed network) AND also work in Europe with 3G speeds.
I would prefer an Android device so it looks like i'm limited to the HTC Desire Z and the Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant. But as far as i understand both of these phones don't have UMTS 2100 frequency to get 3G in Europe. Do I just suck it up and use EDGE in Europe or do something else?
What do you recommend?
I have both the T-Mobile and the international unlocked version. I have the latter because, in my excitement, I didn't take care to find out if it will work on T-Mobile's 3G speeds. To my dismay, it doesn't, and I have an extra phone.
I'm wondering if it will work on any other carrier's 3G/4G data speeds. Searching forums and support threads haven't gotten me any answers. Any help at all would be appreciated.
I bought mine in Britain and am using it quite happily here in Japan. T-Mobile USA has a relatively rare frequency band internationally; I think as long as you have 2100MHz and 900MHz bands, which this phone has, there should be an operator in almost every country that the phone will work on. In fact, it should work on most operators in most countries.
The phone has 850/900/2100 MHz bands for 3G; T-Mobile runs "4G" (actually 3G) on 1700/2100 aka AWS - this requires BOTH bands to be present in the phone, which is why the One S doesn't work. T-Mo USA also has 1900MHz, again not present in the One S. Can you get EDGE 2G data, which should be possible on 850MHz?
In the USA, it should work on AT&T, as they use 850MHz for 3G. Maybe you can find someone who will lend you a SIM to check it.
In Europe & Asia, it should generally work no problem.
Im wondering if anyone has gone from the Desire Z to the Galaxy S Relay 4G in Europe.
I ask for Europe to make sure it is compatible with most networks over here.
I see there is even ROM development over here with 4.4.4 running I imagine codename "Android L" will probably run as well
Thank you for the comments.
A few have had posts in the q&a or maybe general section, there aren't many posts at all here so I'm sure with minimal effort you'll find the ones I'm referring to
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
riahc3 said:
Im wondering if anyone has gone from the Desire Z to the Galaxy S Relay 4G in Europe.
I ask for Europe to make sure it is compatible with most networks over here.
Thank you for the comments.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I went from Desire Z to Galaxy S Relay, it works well in Norway.
You need to unlock the phone from T-Mobile, see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255892.
Be aware that this phone is not enabled for 4G (LTE) network, only 3.75G (HSPA+). HSPA+ is marketed as 4G in USA, not in Europe.
raphaelcno said:
I went from Desire Z to Galaxy S Relay, it works well in Norway.
You need to unlock the phone from T-Mobile, see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255892.
Be aware that this phone is not enabled for 4G (LTE) network, only 3.75G (HSPA+). HSPA+ is marketed as 4G in USA, not in Europe.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
3G works in Norway too?
I think by frequencies sadly 3G wont work here where Im at A shame.
900 MHz 3g doesn't work!
I upgraded too from Desire Z to Relay, didn't even realize any 900 Mhz problem. I get always an H or E icon (HSDPA or EDGE), so 900 MHz should be working.
According to specs, the phone should work with these networks:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
I have it in Telekom in Slovakia and in the meantime I travelled to NY and got no problem at all (I had it set to manual network selection to save roaming charges).
The phone I bought via ebay was locked (even the seller described it as unlocked) but after firmware downgrade I easily unlocked it. I recommend LiquidSmooth ROM, you'll fall in love with that phone!
My other finalist was Moto Photon Q, it supports GSM but lacks SIM card slot. If you want, there's a guy in Prague, the author of the sim card mod instruction post on xda, that can do it for you. But I chose the easier way. Now I have a small problem with display flex cable (probably too much openings/day) so I'm considering buying another Relay before they're gone with no decent qwerty phone around. And I can leave the current one for spare parts. I had to put away my DZ because of the keyboard. Some keys started to write several characters instead of one and there was no easy way to fix it.
FYI ebay deals in your name with customs, so they charge you immediately and the phone is delivered to your door without customs holding it for a week.
If you wish to
T699 in the UK
Hi.
I did not owed the HTC, I used an Xpreia Pro prior to my S4 Relay. However I have the S4 relay for almost 1 year and I had no problems using it in the UK. I have traveled in Europe (France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Romania) and I was able to use it without any problems. AFAIK it works just fine on 900 Mhz but in 2G. The big question is what freq of 3G is your network provider using. For example, in UK I'm on EE network which is using 2100 Mhz for 3G and 1800 Mhz for 2G so the device works perfectly. Ifyou are on Movistar Spain than your phone will work fine, since the company is offering 2G on: 900/1800 MHz (both supported by S4 relay) and 900/2100 MHz UMTS ( from which 2100 is supported by the device). In very simple translation 2g will work everywhere without any problem, it might happen that is some places you will not get 3G signal.
Hope it helps.
Emil
Screw my bad luck i didnt know about the band stuff when i ordered my phone and i got 1700 AWS (US Global GSM) which doesn't work for 3G in my area, I cant get Global GSM, is there any way to make 2100 GHz frequency work on US GSM?
Even if it may require some hardware modding or some external support, I would really be wanting to run 3G on my phone because it's really an affordable stuff in a small range..
Any help would be supported.
Thanks