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So when I bought my Vibrant, I knew this phone was coming soon. I got the Vibrant anyway because of all it was promising to be. (And because I have absolutely no patience whatsoever.)
Well, that Vibrant, other than the beautiful screen, is NOT all it promised. Yes, I can flash ROMs and blah blah blah, but I have no idea what I'm doing in that area, so it's probably not too smart to try in my case. Besides, shouldn't a phone just work? I understand that they will all have issues, but this Vibrant is chock full of 'em!
Anyhoo...just curious to know the opinions of current MT4G owners. Do you find that the "issues", if any, are worth overlooking? The Vibrant has so many. At first, I had no problem saying "eh, it's a new phone, they'll work it out". I'm realizing over time that not only have they not worked it out, but it's just getting worse over time.
What issues are you having with the vibrant? I only really had a borked GPS. The screen was great, but text was a little fuzzy, which is unfortunately what I do most on a phone. That said, the mt4g just fits and feels better in my hand, vibrant was too awkward and slippery. I still have both, will decide which one to keep... but the Vibrant running on TeamWhiskey's Onyx ROM was super fast. The mt4g felt 'laggy' to me out of the box compared to it and my modded nexus one. I guess we just have to wait for some good roms.
Edit: by laggy i mean the time between swiping your finger, and actually observing the screen start to move. the phone is fast opening apps and what not, so i'm not talking about that kind of lag. I guess I mean the 'responsiveness' in the UI is a bit slower than what I'm used to and I'm convinced it's the bloatware and mySense that HTC has loaded it up with...hoping for a vanilla android ROM to flash =)
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... "eh, it's a new phone, they'll work it out"
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That's the beauty of buying an HTC product - they actually do work out issues.
This phone though, right out of the box it does everything I wanted it to and does it WELL.
I had a Vibrant, got rid of it for a Nexus One (which was a great phone - but this one was better!) - I was tired of the GPS issues and the lack of support, and then what little support they did give had galacticly POOR QA on it.
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Edit: by laggy i mean the time between swiping your finger, and actually observing the screen start to move. the phone is fast opening apps and what not, so i'm not talking about that kind of lag. I guess I mean the 'responsiveness' in the UI is a bit slower than what I'm used to and I'm convinced it's the bloatware and mySense that HTC has loaded it up with...hoping for a vanilla android ROM to flash =)
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Although added software on the phone can't help with the overall speed of the phone, I really doubt the minimal bloatware has any effect on the speed of the UI as you put it. The effect of the bloatware on a stock ROM like this with all its underlying processes shouldn't amount to much at all, as evidenced by how fast apps can open and the general speed of the I/O. I think rather, the ever so slight lag in the UI may be more of a hardware and/or driver issue, as that component does not vary at all. Whether you have just rebooted the phone, deleted system app (bloatware if you will), or at any other time, that screen response and movement never varies. I have just "frozen" every system app I could get away with, and quite frankly, I see no difference in overall speed of the phone. It just flies.
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Although added software on the phone can't help with the overall speed of the phone, I really doubt the minimal bloatware has any effect on the speed of the UI as you put it. The effect of the bloatware on a stock ROM like this with all its underlying processes shouldn't amount to much at all, as evidenced by how fast apps can open and the general speed of the I/O. I think rather, the ever so slight lag in the UI may be more of a hardware and/or driver issue, as that component does not vary at all. Whether you have just rebooted the phone, deleted system app (bloatware if you will), or at any other time, that screen response and movement never varies. I have just "frozen" every system app I could get away with, and quite frankly, I see no difference in overall speed of the phone. It just flies.
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This is what I thought as well. But the thing is, the length of the 'lag' in response to my touch actually differs between applications. When I use launcher pro's launcher, it's very quick, but if I'm in say, the settings of the browser menu, or some of the other "mySense themed" things, it's a lot slower to respond I find. Maybe it's just me, but I'm kind of anal about speed. Still, I'll reserve judgement until I can get a vanilla ROM on and get rid of this mySense thing. I agree, the phone is really snappy, it's just that some apps are a bit slower to pickup my touch input than others.
Thanks for your replies
I may just get the MT4G outright and try it out for a few days. See which I like better, then either return the MT or sell the Vibrant. I'm so wishy washy with phones...maybe wishy washy isn't the word so much as fickle.
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Thanks for your replies
I may just get the MT4G outright and try it out for a few days. See which I like better, then either return the MT or sell the Vibrant. I'm so wishy washy with phones...maybe wishy washy isn't the word so much as fickle.
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I had a rootes vibrant for 3 weeks and I liked it alot! The vibrant was fast, the screen was great and I was happy with it. I decided to trade it in for the MT4G and never looked back. Trust me when I say this...the Vibrant got nothing on this MT4G. I change phones alot and I think I finally found a phone that satisfies me
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I had a rootes vibrant for 3 weeks and I liked it alot! The vibrant was fast, the screen was great and I was happy with it. I decided to trade it in for the MT4G and never looked back. Trust me when I say this...the Vibrant got nothing on this MT4G. I change phones alot and I think I finally found a phone that satisfies me
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Oooh, I do like hearing that!
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I had a rootes vibrant for 3 weeks and I liked it alot! The vibrant was fast, the screen was great and I was happy with it. I decided to trade it in for the MT4G and never looked back. Trust me when I say this...the Vibrant got nothing on this MT4G. I change phones alot and I think I finally found a phone that satisfies me
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I don't know if the vibrant has NOTHING on the mt4g... I'm fairly sure the external speaker was far superior to the MT4G's in terms of quality (bass production) as well as volume. The sound production through headphones was also superior... it seems HTC phones are plagued with mediocre audio quality. That, and the arguably better screen (colors popped more, but text is fuzzier on amoled/samoled screens). But ya, the MT4G's LED flash, working GPS, better feel (objective), more ram, snapdragon (lets face it, samsung doesn't seem to give a **** about optimizing the JIT for hummingbird right now), makes it a winner.
I made the Switch to the MT4G the Laggy-ness of the vibrant + horrible Battery Life and the cluster F%^k that is the froyo updating made me pull the trigger the MT4G is wicked fast the text is easier to read than the vibrant and the MT4G doesn't feel cheap like the vibrant, and the crappy GPS on the vibrant was also a killer, Maybe with the nexus 2 sammy will do better. See ya sammy
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I don't know if the vibrant has NOTHING on the mt4g... I'm fairly sure the external speaker was far superior to the MT4G's in terms of quality (bass production) as well as volume. The sound production through headphones was also superior... it seems HTC phones are plagued with mediocre audio quality. That, and the arguably better screen (colors popped more, but text is fuzzier on amoled/samoled screens). But ya, the MT4G's LED flash, working GPS, better feel (objective), more ram, snapdragon (lets face it, samsung doesn't seem to give a **** about optimizing the JIT for hummingbird right now), makes it a winner.
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As far as audio quality through headphones, the Vibrant uses a DSP chip which enhances sound quality. To me, it was the best sounding phone i've ever heard but I hardly ever listen to music from my phone.
I sold my vibrant for the MT4G and i'm happy I did. It has many more features, is much quicker, has perfect GPS and MUCH better battery life.
Vibrant>G2>MT4G
And I'm 100% happy. Im just wishing I would of gotten red.... Lol
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Ok, pretty sure you've all convinced me...I need to make the switch!
If you can bear one more +1, I too had the Vibrant for a month, and had a laundry list of wishes for it. The screen was beautiful, but I don't miss it a tad. The MT4g just has everything I wished for on the Vibrant, plus little extras that I love as I discover them. This is my keeper phone.
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If you can bear one more +1, I too had the Vibrant for a month, and had a laundry list of wishes for it. The screen was beautiful, but I don't miss it a tad. The MT4g just has everything I wished for on the Vibrant, plus little extras that I love as I discover them. This is my keeper phone.
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Thank you! More and more I'm realizing that I should definitely ditch the Vibrant. While the screen is absolutely beautiful, I think that seems to be the only thing (as far as my needs go) that the Vibrant has over the MT. I'm sure in the development world there are many, many other things that the Vibrant has over it, but in my little novice world, I think the MT is more for me.
I'm sorry I'm not trying to bash on any vibrant owners but I held a vibrant and it felt like a piece of plastic on my hands with a beautiful display that's all. When I got the mt4g from the moment I felt it in my hands u can tell the quality of this phone has with a nice weight to it. The size imo is the perfect size for my hands and I'm coming from an hd2 4.3inch feels too bulky especially when ur out with ur friends at a party and ur trying to get ur phone out to take pics lol trust me I been there. The mt4g not only feels perfect on ur hands but performs flawlessly with no lag no hangs this baby is meant for all kinds of multitasking u can throw at it overall this phone is a beast!
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I'm not trying to bash the phone either. I truly wanted to love it. I tried to love it. I even have days that I DO love it. Sadly, they are getting farther and fewer between. I need a phone that's going to perform the way I need it to now, not whenever they feel like getting around to it. It's really too bad, because I think the Vibrant has such huge potential.
I have both the Vibrant and the myTouch 4G. I'm currently using the myTouch and I have to say that I am missing my Vibrant. I do like the led light, the flash, the trackpad, front camera, and wifi calling though. What I don't like about the myTouch is that the buttons feel cheap, the screen isn't as great as the SGS, and the speakers sound bad. The Vibrant screen is a lot better because of the super AMOLED. The only downside about the screen is that it drains a lot of battery. I like the Vibrant's interface more and the 16GB internal memory. The GPU on the Vibrant is a great plus and the camera is pretty good. I think froyo is what my Vibrant needs, then I would pick it for sure. I don't have that many things installed on my myTouch yet, but stock applications keep force closing, I don't know if anyone else has that problem. I love how fast the myTouch restarts though, the SGS is kind of slow to start up...
i have both phones and from using the mt4g the past two weeks, i'm really torn between the two. but it's good to have to seperate lines for work and home
at any rate, i have found that the vibrant, with root and the right mods/hacks outshines the mt4g in performance. quadrant scores which surpass 3000 are some what proof of that. however, i don't put linpack nor quadrant scores too much on a pedestal because both were designed mainly for testing snapdragon devices.
the vibrant is an incredible device for gaming and video playback. i have tested 3d games and emulators which use tons of memory. my myt4g lags and on almost every psx or snesoidrom that i have using psx or snes emulators v. the vibrant. gameloft games such as sandstorm don't seem to run as smooth either. graphical display on these games look much much better on the vibrant.
out of the box though, the mt4g is plenty fast as i don't really see myself needing to flash custom roms immediately. the gps works flawlessly, no need for lagfixes like the vibrant. even with the custom espresso skin, the myt4g is super fast. on top of that, i seem to get better signal 3 signals vs. the vibrant.
and that's my short review of both phones. right now, i use the myt4g primarily for work as it has exceptional battery life and durability over the vibrant.
i use the vibrant as my personal phone because it's an incredible gaming and media playback device. now, i just need to wait for that new galaxy 2 to come out..
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I have both the Vibrant and the myTouch 4G. I'm currently using the myTouch and I have to say that I am missing my Vibrant. I do like the led light, the flash, the trackpad, front camera, and wifi calling though. What I don't like about the myTouch is that the buttons feel cheap, the screen isn't as great as the SGS, and the speakers sound bad. The Vibrant screen is a lot better because of the super AMOLED. The only downside about the screen is that it drains a lot of battery. I like the Vibrant's interface more and the 16GB internal memory. The GPU on the Vibrant is a great plus and the camera is pretty good. I think froyo is what my Vibrant needs, then I would pick it for sure. I don't have that many things installed on my myTouch yet, but stock applications keep force closing, I don't know if anyone else has that problem. I love how fast the myTouch restarts though, the SGS is kind of slow to start up...
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I dont know what ur talking about the buttons feel solid imo unless ur phone came with faulty buttons and in terms of force closing I only had the market close on me once
Before I ask, I know there have been many threads about this topic, but my question is a little more specific than the rest. I get to upgrade my phone sometime in the next few weeks and one of these will be my first android phone. As a young artist, I am mostly looking for a phone which will take quality photos for good reference and preferably one which has video auto focus. I'm also a heavy internet user (about 5 hours a day on iPod Touch) but coming from iOS, I long for flash player. I also like to game a lot so the dual core cpu performance has to be somewhat decent with good speeds (better than my 4th gen touch at least lol). Lastly I'm a big media person with music a videos so I'm looking for a quality screen, support for multiple media formats (specifically mkv), decent speakers, and if possible, support for in-line headphones with volume, FF and RR (optional to come in the box, but if there are alternative working ones, please post below as I haven't found a solution with android devices and working in-line headphones). I've played around with my cousins EVO a lot so I've grown a liking to HTC Sense but I would also like to try out stock android sometime. And after a lot of time reading reviews and comments, I've taken a liking to the Galaxy S II's screen but I'm not a fan of TouchWiz. As previously stated, coming from an iOS user, I'm hoping one of these phones can either match or have greater quality with the screen in terms of brightness and contrast (not so much with resolution but mostly with colors, hue, and saturation). I'm hoping this narrows down the margin between these 3 phones.
P.S. I'm also hoping for one of these to have great dev support since I love to customize and test new tweaks.
EDITED - Also as an additional post, can you explain the batter life of the 3 as best as you can (even considering not having much info about the sensation)
I would say the G2X after LG fixes the Bleeding screen, restarts, and battery life issue. Both the GS2 and Sensatoin both have skins over android to which I've never been a fan of. 1st GS2 Engaget did a review and called it the best smart phone on the planet (the week before g2x was lol) but its made of plastic and its really thin so if the unthinkable happens and you drop the phone changes are its going to get jacked up and touchwiz. 2. Sensation Ive never been a fan of sense its a power hungry beast that needs to be removed. Just look at the battery life of the thunderbolt its really bad.
I had the G2X for a week and I loved it, its solid like my Nexus One it feels like a phone. I dropped it twice once on my tile floor and there were no marks and once on my naked foot to which brought me great pain. (lol) The G2X will have CM7 the galaxy s phones don't have CM support so why do you think that GS2 will? I plan on getting anothe G2x I'm just waiting until the 2nd line of them.
It honestly sounds like the Galaxy S II is just right for you. I know you say you dont like touchwiz (believe me I hate it) but the TW 4.0 or whatever its called looks really nice. From what I have seen it looks better than sense ui. Anyways, there have been battles between the G2X and the Galaxy S II and hardware wise the GSII always has the upper hand with camera, performance, screen, colors, etc.. However there are many things to consider. Do we even know what US carrier (if any) will receive the GSII? Also coming from the vibrant I swore up and down I wouild never buy a samsung phone again. Their lack of software support was just unacceptable. Im not even talking upgrades, just basic bug fixes. Development for this phone NEVER gave us a fully functioning stock android or AOSP ROM. Sure CM7 made a lot of headway and may still come to the galaxy s with all the fixes but right now it still has bugs and some things just dont work.
To make a long story short, I got the G2X because I wanted a stock android experience with a lot of developer backing (specifically cyanogenmod) and the specs of the phone are pretty amazing. Now it sounds to me like media and camera are more important to you so you may feel more welcome by the Galaxy S II if you dont care about aftermarket roms and such.
get 2x
coming from a vibrant, i can say that screen on the g2x is actually better and it being a stock android updates come faster and custom roms will also. I can't wait for the cyanogen mod either. I had battery issues but after resetting my phone the battery works just fine. they all have similar processors but the g2x being stock will get you better performance. I am a photographer also and am creating a photo journal with the g2x and it does the job well. good luck
i say go for SGS2, it works quite good out of the box and it has a great screen and you will absolutely appreciate the larger screen. Though im not really a fan of touchwiz.
I have g2x and going to return it today for SGS2.
There is no doubt in my mind that the dev support will be there for the sgs2 but it will be greater on the g2x just b/c of all the vanillaness.
The weight of the galaxy line is extremely light but believe me when I say that it is extremely durable. My old cliq felt like a brick but the second time I dropped that it stopped working completely so weight and feel have nothing to do with durability.
My vibrant has pretty much been through the equivalent of back to back fights with Manny Pacquiao and Anderson Silva only to come out as the new peoples champ. If you can wait, I would say try to see what all 3 of them are like and whether or not they come to your carrier. Its what I'm gonna do b/c I would hate to be stuck in another 2 year contract and not have the phone that I'm gonna own for atleast half of that time.
I have the same question, but new phones will probably come out because my next upgrade is in September. I really hate big phones and it seems phones are getting bigger and bigger. I really like the nexus s design (A lot!) And I like stock android, so I think I might wait until the nexus s2 comes out. Hopefully it stays a bit close to the design of the nexus s.
Sense isn't that power hungry the reason why the thunderbolt sucks on battery life is because of the lte network. A custom sense rom usually has no data drops. Like the aosp roms do.
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Sense isn't that power hungry the reason why the thunderbolt sucks on battery life is because of the lte network. A custom sense rom usually has no data drops. Like the aosp roms do.
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Each one of my friends who had a sense phone who switched to a custom rom w/o sense batter life increased alot.
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It honestly sounds like the Galaxy S II is just right for you. I know you say you dont like touchwiz (believe me I hate it) but the TW 4.0 or whatever its called looks really nice. From what I have seen it looks better than sense ui. Anyways, there have been battles between the G2X and the Galaxy S II and hardware wise the GSII always has the upper hand with camera, performance, screen, colors, etc.. However there are many things to consider. Do we even know what US carrier (if any) will receive the GSII? Also coming from the vibrant I swore up and down I wouild never buy a samsung phone again. Their lack of software support was just unacceptable. Im not even talking upgrades, just basic bug fixes. Development for this phone NEVER gave us a fully functioning stock android or AOSP ROM. Sure CM7 made a lot of headway and may still come to the galaxy s with all the fixes but right now it still has bugs and some things just dont work.
To make a long story short, I got the G2X because I wanted a stock android experience with a lot of developer backing (specifically cyanogenmod) and the specs of the phone are pretty amazing. Now it sounds to me like media and camera are more important to you so you may feel more welcome by the Galaxy S II if you dont care about aftermarket roms and such.
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Thanks for your input. Also as a CFW PSP user and a Jailbroken iOS user, I like to have a combination of both dev support and media features, so I wouldn't want to leave that out. I'm surprised that only one person gave consideration to the sensation when I stated how it was the only UI I've ever used so far on android, and I read how it had an HRD camera with auto focus video so I thought most would assume that as the better choice, but my only problem with it is how its rumored to not have an unlocked bootloader. I think atm I will go with the g2x but I hope to hear about some alternatives to getting inline music controls to work.
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coming from a vibrant, i can say that screen on the g2x is actually better and it being a stock android updates come faster and custom roms will also. I can't wait for the cyanogen mod either. I had battery issues but after resetting my phone the battery works just fine. they all have similar processors but the g2x being stock will get you better performance. I am a photographer also and am creating a photo journal with the g2x and it does the job well. good luck
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Thank you very much! when I saw still photos on the G2X compared to the S II, I thought it looked inferior, but being able to make a photo journal out of it seems to counter that argument. BTW is it possible for the camera to get an update for auto focus video recording like the Galaxy S Vibrant did? For camera usage, that is the only thing pushing me back from the G2X as well as the support for multiple video formats (which I hear the Galaxy S II will have based on the Exynos processor). Hope to receive some additional feedback.
If you go bluetooth you can get inline music control. I personally have and like the plantronics backbeats and the sweatproof motorola S-10 HDs. The backbeats are more flexible and easier to wear, while the S-10s are must haves for working out and sports.
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If you go bluetooth you can get inline music control. I personally have and like the plantronics backbeats and the sweatproof motorola S-10 HDs. The backbeats are more flexible and easier to wear, while the S-10s are must haves for working out and sports.
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i hear a lot of mixed things about bluetooth headphones. even though the sound quality is great and the music controls work, I cannot always depend on headphones which need charging. Having to charge one device already is enough so i am more suited for wired inline in ear headphones.
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There is no doubt in my mind that the dev support will be there for the sgs2 but it will be greater on the g2x just b/c of all the vanillaness.
The weight of the galaxy line is extremely light but believe me when I say that it is extremely durable. My old cliq felt like a brick but the second time I dropped that it stopped working completely so weight and feel have nothing to do with durability.
My vibrant has pretty much been through the equivalent of back to back fights with Manny Pacquiao and Anderson Silva only to come out as the new peoples champ. If you can wait, I would say try to see what all 3 of them are like and whether or not they come to your carrier. Its what I'm gonna do b/c I would hate to be stuck in another 2 year contract and not have the phone that I'm gonna own for atleast half of that time.
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Well not voting for the SGS2 here but I don't think Vanilla has any bearings on Dev Support, directly. Granted, I prefer vanilla and thus may contribute to its popularity, which, indirectly, popularity = dev support.
The only thing that matters is that the bootloader is unlocked and it is easily rootable and flashable. I mean once you get a CM rom on there, they all work the same.
I think Vanilla roms are more open to other variants like MIUI and the likes because they typically share the same partition structure. I know the G2x has a different structure and I think it is safe to say the SGS2 does too. Good thing that we are able to format and change the partitions to work across multiple roms.
The SGS2 was recently rooted and I think they found the bootloader to be unlocked. So it should be able to be flashed pretty easily.
One big factor that more people don't think about is the screen size. I have small hands (vs huge sausages) and the 4" screen of the G2x pushes my comfort zone. I think 4.3" would be too much and I would be fumbling it while trying to do one handed operations.
Having bought a G2x from a N1... I can say I'm extremely happy. I've been reading the SGS2 forums trying to stir up some internal buyers remorse... but I can honestly say that I would still pick my G2x over the SGS2 again. To me Tegra>Orion justifies AMOLED>LCD. I think NVidia will really push some developers to create some great games and I don't want to be stuck on the sidelines wishing I could get in on the action. Unable to play some of the newer "HD" (Only for Tegra) games are really making some of the SGS2 owners unhappy.
Nothing like buying a new toy and finding that it doesn't work with the latest HD games.
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that is the only thing pushing me back from the G2X as well as the support for multiple video formats (which I hear the Galaxy S II will have based on the Exynos processor). Hope to receive some additional feedback.
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As far as multiple video formats, I don't think this has much to do with physical hardware as it does software. While I am most certainly not an expert, I have played a range of videos on my phones. Wouldn't all you need is a Video app that has the correct codecs and support for such file types?
I mean, really, not picking one device over another based on media format is just insane to me and defies all logic. I mean how easy is it to convert between formats, come on. I'd say that if you using a less common format or one that isn't widely available, you are only asking for trouble anyway. Most of the video I find online are either MP4 or avi and have no problem playing them on my device. If you are ripping it yourself, just save it in a format you can use.
This is a very good player, plays many formats
http://market.android.com/details?id=net.thefluxstudio.implayer
Player911:
Having bought a G2x from a N1... I can say I'm extremely happy. I've been reading the SGS2 forums trying to stir up some internal buyers remorse... but I can honestly say that I would still pick my G2x over the SGS2 again. To me Tegra>Orion justifies AMOLED>LCD. I think NVidia will really push some developers to create some great games and I don't want to be stuck on the sidelines wishing I could get in on the action. Unable to play some of the newer "HD" (Only for Tegra) games are really making some of the SGS2 owners unhappy.
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I'm quite surprised that the SGS2 folks have a buyers remorse, especially after reading your post. I was having remorse with the G2x since it just has 512MB ram and the GS2 kicks the G2x to the curb on every bullet point except Value for money/cost (I'm buying off contract). I'm also very surprised when you implicitly state that Orion cannot run Tegra games even though it's way faster than tegra.
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I'm quite surprised that the SGS2 folks have a buyers remorse, especially after reading your post. I was having remorse with the G2x since it just has 512MB ram and the GS2 kicks the G2x to the curb on every bullet point except Value for money/cost (I'm buying off contract). I'm also very surprised when you implicitly state that Orion cannot run Tegra games even though it's way faster than tegra.
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Dont just look at numbers (1ghz dual core vs 1.2 dual core) RAM numbers, etc.
It has been said the 1ghz Tegra 2 is a better processor overall, and you really dont need more than 512mb of RAM since Android closes apps on its own when memory gets low. You wont see much if any performance increase from merely more RAM.
Lets not forget Samsung's recent past with its Galaxy S line having broken GPS, wonky file systems that slowed down phones, and bootloaders locked.
I wouldnt just yet say the SGS2 is a better device because how it looks on paper.
>It has been said the 1ghz Tegra 2 is a better processor overall, and you really dont need more than 512mb of RAM since Android closes apps on its own when memory gets low. You wont see much if any performance increase from merely more RAM.
I'm not sure about that. Both use dual Cortex A9s. The difference in hardware between the two is the GPU. We all know Tegra 2 uses GeForce ULP but I'm not sure what the Exynos uses(SGX or Adreno).
I concede my point to your statement about the RAM, since I only recently learnt about memory management in Android (this is my first Android). I'm pretty sure Sammy must have fixed the GPS issues, since if they don't I'd lose all respect for them.
Oh OP, one thing you might want to consider is that the Galaxy S2 does not have an HDMI out port. They say it's got some USB-HDMI cable though.
Also, it depends on your hands. The G2x itself is a pretty big device in my opinion, and seeing that the SGS2 has a 4.3" screen it's going to be much bigger.
Definitely sgs2
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Well not voting for the SGS2 here but I don't think Vanilla has any bearings on Dev Support, directly. Granted, I prefer vanilla and thus may contribute to its popularity, which, indirectly, popularity = dev support.
The only thing that matters is that the bootloader is unlocked and it is easily rootable and flashable. I mean once you get a CM rom on there, they all work the same.
I think Vanilla roms are more open to other variants like MIUI and the likes because they typically share the same partition structure. I know the G2x has a different structure and I think it is safe to say the SGS2 does too. Good thing that we are able to format and change the partitions to work across multiple roms.
The SGS2 was recently rooted and I think they found the bootloader to be unlocked. So it should be able to be flashed pretty easily.
One big factor that more people don't think about is the screen size. I have small hands (vs huge sausages) and the 4" screen of the G2x pushes my comfort zone. I think 4.3" would be too much and I would be fumbling it while trying to do one handed operations.
Having bought a G2x from a N1... I can say I'm extremely happy. I've been reading the SGS2 forums trying to stir up some internal buyers remorse... but I can honestly say that I would still pick my G2x over the SGS2 again. To me Tegra>Orion justifies AMOLED>LCD. I think NVidia will really push some developers to create some great games and I don't want to be stuck on the sidelines wishing I could get in on the action. Unable to play some of the newer "HD" (Only for Tegra) games are really making some of the SGS2 owners unhappy.
Nothing like buying a new toy and finding that it doesn't work with the latest HD games.
As far as multiple video formats, I don't think this has much to do with physical hardware as it does software. While I am most certainly not an expert, I have played a range of videos on my phones. Wouldn't all you need is a Video app that has the correct codecs and support for such file types?
I mean, really, not picking one device over another based on media format is just insane to me and defies all logic. I mean how easy is it to convert between formats, come on. I'd say that if you using a less common format or one that isn't widely available, you are only asking for trouble anyway. Most of the video I find online are either MP4 or avi and have no problem playing them on my device. If you are ripping it yourself, just save it in a format you can use.
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Coming from iOS, I am tired of having to convert all of my videos to mp4 format and having little knowledge of android from not having owned one just increases my curiosity on the matter since the SGSII specs list stated that the Exynos processor has more support for video formats than tegra 2. Being able to directly download and play any format is one thing I am looking for in one of these phones so that is why I asked the question. Some of the videos I download are dual audio and subbed mkv's and having to download multiple programs to get the subtitles and audio working on a mobile device is very time consuming so having support for multiple codecs would make things a whole lot easier.
Hey all, long time lurker, rare poster.
Before I go any further, let me just state that I absolutely LOVE my Infuse. I've never really trusted Samsung, seeing as how i've sold AT&T phones for the past 6 years and saw the horror stories and countless returns starting with the SGH-A707 (sync), the Blackjack, etc. But they have won me over with the Infuse. So far, i've not encountered any serious issues, except for on that I consider major/minor. Read on.
I bought the Infuse outright on launch day after having the Inspire since launch, I do have on thing that perplexes me about the Infuse (read my mini-comparison)
Screen:
- Infuse, hands down. Bigger, brighter, and overall just more enjoyable. Also the gorilla glass has been extremely more fingerprint/scuff resistant so far.
Battery life:
- Again, Infuse kills the Inspire. On my Inspire I would have to turn off all background data, and make sure I kept GPS/WiFi off to make it through the majority of the day, usually dying out at around 6:00pm if i took it off charger at 8:00am. With the Infuse, I can take it off the charger at 8:00am and still have ~40% left at 12:30am the next day even with leaving GPS/WiFi on (I work 4-12:30 shift, and my desk doesn't have an outlet nearby, so this is crucial).
Audio quality:
- Infuse wins again. My Infuse is LOUD. I can actually show a friend a Youtube video without having to just put the speaker to his ear so he can hear it. Calls come in loud and crisp as well, I haven't used speakerphone yet, but I would assume it would be the same.
Build quality:
- Inspire. I'm sure everyone has read the same thing, how the Infuse feels kind of cheap. It's not horrible, but for at $500+ device I would expect a little more. It's not a dealbreaker by any means, and I don't think that if I drop it it would break, but I definitely bought the Ballistic SG case to make it feel a little bit more.. Substantial. The metal body on the Inspire oozed class and quality, in comparison.
Camera:
- Infuse, especially indoors. I will give the Inspire this: If you're outdoors with absolutely perfect lighting, the Inspire takes some of the best pictures from a phone I have ever seen, including the iPhone 4 (which I still think has the best still/video quality on any phone available from any carrier in the US). But the second it becomes cloudy/overcast the Inspire's quality drops from about an 8.5 to a 6, and that's being generous. Go indoors with the Inspire? Fagettabouit. The Infuse takes amazingly crisp pictures outside, regardless of whether or not it's Sunny/Cloudy/Overcast, but even my pictures indoors come out usable. Big ups to Samsung on that. Not many phones are able to do that!
Speed:
- Unfortunately, this is where my "one complaint" about the Infuse is. My Inspire was quick. Blazingly fast, if you may, despite only utilizing a 1GHz processor. Even though the Infuse should theoretically be even faster with it's 1.2GHz Snapdragon processor, it's not. That's not to say that it's "slow" or anything, in fact, when browsing through menus/switching between applications I rarely see any lag at all. Where it's really noticeable to me, is in the web browser. Flash videos that played flawlessly on my Inspire have a good bit of stutter/frame skipping on the Infuse, sometimes pages don't correctly format for 10+ seconds, even if it's a text only page. I even have less apps running/installed on my Infuse than I did on my Inspire. I've tried using alternate browsers to no avail. I know there was a guy trolling with this, comparing the Infuse to a Tegra 2 device (which is like comparing a Versa to a Mustang), but I'm not talking in comparison to a Tegra 2, I'm talking a current-gen 1.2GHz processor vs. a current-gen 1GHz processor. Yes, games like Let's Golf! 2, Asphalt 6, and Madden 11 ran a little smoother on my Inspire.
Now, with that being said:
- Is this a deal breaker? Of course not. I bought my Infuse wanting better battery life, better camera performance, better(bigger) screen, and better overall usability. The Infuse hits the mark on all of these aspects. The web browsing is a little worrisome as I used it to watch TV shows while on break at work, and it's not nearly as enjoyable as it was, but I'm going to assume that problem can be alleviated once custom roms start hitting and I can remove the touchwiz influence (Touchwiz doesn't bother me, but I'm sure bogs down the processor a little bit, so I'll remove it as soon as possible to install vanilla android, and maximize my phones potential).
I know it seems like I disliked my Inspire, but in all actuality it was one of the best smartphones that I've ever had, the Infuse is just that much better, IMO. It's truly an amazing phone.
Does anyone have any advice on how to speed up my flash player/web browsing performance?
HTC devices are more media centric meaning they will always play nice with media/flash.
as for your flash problem, im guessing you will have to wait liek you said to get rid of touchwiz.
Not calling you a moron or anything, but did you do the Flash 10.3 update? Also, in my dolphin HD browser, I check the option to keep flash running always, as opposed to "on demand." Try that if you haven't. I noticed the lag left as soon as I changed that option.
These types of threads (about browser performance) appear for every phone with a Hummingbird processor. For whatever reason, the Android browser just doesn't perform that well on Hummingbird processors. Samsung has made a lot of modifications to the browser to alieviate this problem (with checkerboarding being a side effect), but it's still not quite where it should be for a 1.2GHz processor. Many suggest trying Opera Mobile. Unlike Dolphin, Miren, etc., it uses a completely different engine that is said to perform much better on Hummingbird processors.
My infuse is quite a lot slower than my Thunderbolt unfortunately
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Hey all, long time lurker, rare poster.
Before I go any further, let me just state that I absolutely LOVE my Infuse. I've never really trusted Samsung, seeing as how i've sold AT&T phones for the past 6 years and saw the horror stories and countless returns starting with the SGH-A707 (sync), the Blackjack, etc. But they have won me over with the Infuse. So far, i've not encountered any serious issues, except for on that I consider major/minor. Read on.
I bought the Infuse outright on launch day after having the Inspire since launch, I do have on thing that perplexes me about the Infuse (read my mini-comparison)
Screen:
- Infuse, hands down. Bigger, brighter, and overall just more enjoyable. Also the gorilla glass has been extremely more fingerprint/scuff resistant so far.
Battery life:
- Again, Infuse kills the Inspire. On my Inspire I would have to turn off all background data, and make sure I kept GPS/WiFi off to make it through the majority of the day, usually dying out at around 6:00pm if i took it off charger at 8:00am. With the Infuse, I can take it off the charger at 8:00am and still have ~40% left at 12:30am the next day even with leaving GPS/WiFi on (I work 4-12:30 shift, and my desk doesn't have an outlet nearby, so this is crucial).
Audio quality:
- Infuse wins again. My Infuse is LOUD. I can actually show a friend a Youtube video without having to just put the speaker to his ear so he can hear it. Calls come in loud and crisp as well, I haven't used speakerphone yet, but I would assume it would be the same.
Build quality:
- Inspire. I'm sure everyone has read the same thing, how the Infuse feels kind of cheap. It's not horrible, but for at $500+ device I would expect a little more. It's not a dealbreaker by any means, and I don't think that if I drop it it would break, but I definitely bought the Ballistic SG case to make it feel a little bit more.. Substantial. The metal body on the Inspire oozed class and quality, in comparison.
Camera:
- Infuse, especially indoors. I will give the Inspire this: If you're outdoors with absolutely perfect lighting, the Inspire takes some of the best pictures from a phone I have ever seen, including the iPhone 4 (which I still think has the best still/video quality on any phone available from any carrier in the US). But the second it becomes cloudy/overcast the Inspire's quality drops from about an 8.5 to a 6, and that's being generous. Go indoors with the Inspire? Fagettabouit. The Infuse takes amazingly crisp pictures outside, regardless of whether or not it's Sunny/Cloudy/Overcast, but even my pictures indoors come out usable. Big ups to Samsung on that. Not many phones are able to do that!
Speed:
- Unfortunately, this is where my "one complaint" about the Infuse is. My Inspire was quick. Blazingly fast, if you may, despite only utilizing a 1GHz processor. Even though the Infuse should theoretically be even faster with it's 1.2GHz Snapdragon processor, it's not. That's not to say that it's "slow" or anything, in fact, when browsing through menus/switching between applications I rarely see any lag at all. Where it's really noticeable to me, is in the web browser. Flash videos that played flawlessly on my Inspire have a good bit of stutter/frame skipping on the Infuse, sometimes pages don't correctly format for 10+ seconds, even if it's a text only page. I even have less apps running/installed on my Infuse than I did on my Inspire. I've tried using alternate browsers to no avail. I know there was a guy trolling with this, comparing the Infuse to a Tegra 2 device (which is like comparing a Versa to a Mustang), but I'm not talking in comparison to a Tegra 2, I'm talking a current-gen 1.2GHz processor vs. a current-gen 1GHz processor. Yes, games like Let's Golf! 2, Asphalt 6, and Madden 11 ran a little smoother on my Inspire.
Now, with that being said:
- Is this a deal breaker? Of course not. I bought my Infuse wanting better battery life, better camera performance, better(bigger) screen, and better overall usability. The Infuse hits the mark on all of these aspects. The web browsing is a little worrisome as I used it to watch TV shows while on break at work, and it's not nearly as enjoyable as it was, but I'm going to assume that problem can be alleviated once custom roms start hitting and I can remove the touchwiz influence (Touchwiz doesn't bother me, but I'm sure bogs down the processor a little bit, so I'll remove it as soon as possible to install vanilla android, and maximize my phones potential).
I know it seems like I disliked my Inspire, but in all actuality it was one of the best smartphones that I've ever had, the Infuse is just that much better, IMO. It's truly an amazing phone.
Does anyone have any advice on how to speed up my flash player/web browsing performance?
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I'm not having any flash issues. streetfire.net videos play perfect and in sync, my local news channels play great flash as well. just as well as my inspire. just way better picture lol
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Hey all, long time lurker, rare poster.
(I work 4-12:30 shift, and my desk doesn't have an outlet nearby, so this is crucial).
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Where do they sell phones til 12:30AM? Not trolling, just curious.
Speed:
- Unfortunately, this is where my "one complaint" about the Infuse is. My Inspire was quick. Blazingly fast, if you may, despite only utilizing a 1GHz processor. Even though the Infuse should theoretically be even faster with it's 1.2GHz Snapdragon processor, it's not.
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Not Snapdragon. Hummingbird. The same one that's in the Captivate, with the clock uprated to 1.2.
That's not to say that it's "slow" or anything, in fact, when browsing through menus/switching between applications I rarely see any lag at all. Where it's really noticeable to me, is in the web browser. Flash videos that played flawlessly on my Inspire have a good bit of stutter/frame skipping on the Infuse, sometimes pages don't correctly format for 10+ seconds, even if it's a text only page. I even have less apps running/installed on my Infuse than I did on my Inspire. I've tried using alternate browsers to no avail. I know there was a guy trolling with this, comparing the Infuse to a Tegra 2 device (which is like comparing a Versa to a Mustang), but I'm not talking in comparison to a Tegra 2, I'm talking a current-gen 1.2GHz processor vs. a current-gen 1GHz processor. Yes, games like Let's Golf! 2, Asphalt 6, and Madden 11 ran a little smoother on my Inspire.
Now, with that being said:
- Is this a deal breaker? Of course not. I bought my Infuse wanting better battery life, better camera performance, better(bigger) screen, and better overall usability. The Infuse hits the mark on all of these aspects. The web browsing is a little worrisome as I used it to watch TV shows while on break at work, and it's not nearly as enjoyable as it was, but I'm going to assume that problem can be alleviated once custom roms start hitting and I can remove the touchwiz influence
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The "Touchwiz Influence"? You're overestimating the impact of the launcher on web browsing experience quite a bit.
(Touchwiz doesn't bother me, but I'm sure bogs down the processor a little bit, so I'll remove it as soon as possible to install vanilla android, and maximize my phones potential).
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Huh? 'Vanilla android' never even really hit the Captivate because it's damn difficult to do with many device drivers etc. being closed source proprietary. You might be waiting a long time.
Does anyone have any advice on how to speed up my flash player/web browsing performance?
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I'm not sure if the Infuse is still using the goofy stock RFS filesystem that all the other AT&T Android Samsung phones have used, but I expect it is. If and when custom kernels come out it might be able to be improved with converting the file system to ext4. The 'lag' complaint is common to pretty much 100% of Samsung's Android devices, at least with the stock software.
Yes the Infuse is using Samsung's stupid rfs system. And yes it sucks.....yes there is some lag....
But....
Once this phone starts getting around with ext4, I expect it to kick the crap out of any other non dual-core phone it there easily....
Sent from my Samsung Infuse 4G
SSJ_Gomike said:
Yes the Infuse is using Samsung's stupid rfs system. And yes it sucks.....yes there is some lag....
But....
Once this phone starts getting around with ext4, I expect it to kick the crap out of any other non dual-core phone it there easily....
Sent from my Samsung Infuse 4G
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Meh. I think you might be hoping for a bit much. Plenty of Captivate owners who cared to have already been overclocking the same processor to 1.4 for many months now. Once you realize that and you start to realize that other than the slightly larger, modestly improved display and just slightly larger battery the Infuse is basically analogous to the Captivate...
The Infuse isn't a game-changing device by any stretch of the imagination. It's the iPhone4-killer that the AT&T execs wished they'd had to hold against Apple's throat when they were talking about going to Verizon, only delivered at least 6 months too late by the combined Samsung/AT&T dev processes. Relative to the SGS2 varaint expected to be announced in weeks the Infuse is going to go down as a strange, momentary afterthought.
Try Opera. its really good.
Just let me state this really quick.
its a phone. not a computer. browser experience will not be as smooth as in your computer, hey if it gets you online, and lets you do what you need to do, you should be pretty much set.
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Huh? 'Vanilla android' never even really hit the Captivate because it's damn difficult to do with many device drivers etc. being closed source proprietary. You might be waiting a long time.
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Nah...this thing uses so much Captivated hardware and device drivers, I won't be surprised if i am able to work with atinm/codeworkx/techmik and get Cm7 running in a few months.
There is a distinct advantage in you all buying this giant captivate hardware .
The main thing is perfecting that Odin package so it works with 100% of bricked phones. Then its time to go to town
Thanks,
-h8
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I agree with OP that Infuse lags sometimes. Hence bought myself SGS II & this thing literally flies! I am glad that I have made the right decision, Infuse is going back to at&t.
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Meh. I think you might be hoping for a bit much. Plenty of Captivate owners who cared to have already been overclocking the same processor to 1.4 for many months now. Once you realize that and you start to realize that other than the slightly larger, modestly improved display and just slightly larger battery the Infuse is basically analogous to the Captivate...
The Infuse isn't a game-changing device by any stretch of the imagination. It's the iPhone4-killer that the AT&T execs wished they'd had to hold against Apple's throat when they were talking about going to Verizon, only delivered at least 6 months too late by the combined Samsung/AT&T dev processes. Relative to the SGS2 varaint expected to be announced in weeks the Infuse is going to go down as a strange, momentary afterthought.
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I have a Captivate as well and I run it with Paragon's 1.2ghz kernel on Mikeymikes Serendipity rom...
I've had a lot of different phones...and I always kept going back to my captivate a my main phone.....
My cappy was the greatest phone I've ever had hands down.....
Yes the Infuse it's basically a bigger captivate.....but with all the things I always wished my captivate had....
Front facing camera
Super fast out of the box
Huge amoled plus screen
Much lighter and thinner
Better camera with flash
4G freaking speeds
HDMI out
And a battery that really lasts through the whole day.....and then some
The perfect phone.....hands down...
Only thing better out there is the SGS 2
I can settle with second best for now....
Sent from my Samsung Infuse 4G
use opera browse for now, later with gingerbread you will love the hummingbird.
about build quality i do feel that the infuse is too light for it's size but if you look inside an htc vs a samsung sgs i have to say im not impressed with the htc internals. weight isnt everything but i agree the infuse could be more rugged like the captivate was.
Hi
Just was wondering if there is a real, noticeable difference between the Infuse with its single-core and the Galaxy S-II with its Dual-core.
By "Real World", i mean for those of us who don't game on their phones
Thanks
Engadget just did a great piece on whether dual core is needed for a particular user. If you're a casual user (music browser phone text pics) then a single core phone is fine. Considering the infuse has the same shooter as the s2 and a bigger screen and gb soon, I think it's a better value but depending on the s2 pricing when it's stateside.
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yes! huge different! i mean the screen!
galaxy s2 with 4.27" looks like 4 inches!
i also have sony x10 with 4" inches, huge screen different on infuse 4.5"
The Infuse isn't in the same galaxy as the SGS II.
No matter how you slice it.
I had a dual core phone and I don't see a need for it until ice cream. I'm not a gamer I use my phone for web, email, text, music and Netflix. All of which run flawlessly on my Infuse. I can't see myself going smaller than a 4.5" screen again. The only thing I miss from my G2x is the HDMI mirroring. Granted the development base for the S2 is mind boggling, its not enough to persuade me to switch.
Sent from my Infuse. It is what it isn't.
Isnt the infuse just a captivate oc'ed to 1.2 and a bigger screen?
Sent from my Apex Blue JVR Samsung Captivate.
topiratiko said:
Isnt the infuse just a captivate oc'ed to 1.2 and a bigger screen?
Sent from my Apex Blue JVR Samsung Captivate.
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just
screen is super amoled PLUS.
camera 8mp+flash
SIZE DOES MATTER
topiratiko said:
Isnt the infuse just a captivate oc'ed to 1.2 and a bigger screen?
Sent from my Apex Blue JVR Samsung Captivate.
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It's an OC Captivate with a bigger screen, slightly better camera/ffc, more RAM and slightly better battery life. Can't forget pretend-4G either.
If Captivate is 1/10, and SGS II is 10/10, then Infuse is at best a 4/10.
MikeyMike01 said:
It's an OC Captivate with a bigger screen, slightly better camera/ffc, more RAM and slightly better battery life. Can't forget pretend-4G either.
If Captivate is 1/10, and SGS II is 10/10, then Infuse is at best a 4/10.
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which really means what if they are both running googles laggy buggy fractured os and samsungs bad drivers?
yes the gs2 is a remarkable piece of hardware but im not super thrilled about anything right now. maybe i'll get a nexus or an hd2 and put meego on it. forget new hardware and gaming/hd playback. there was nothing wrong with the old hardware, the problems are in the software.
apple with ios5 would look attractive if steve jobs wasn't the devil.
Dani897 said:
apple with ios5 would look attractive if steve jobs wasn't the devil.
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He heard that and he knows where you sleep!!!
With a little development we can get it to a 6. If be plenty happy with that.
MikeyMike01 said:
It's an OC Captivate with a bigger screen, slightly better camera/ffc, more RAM and slightly better battery life. Can't forget pretend-4G either.
If Captivate is 1/10, and SGS II is 10/10, then Infuse is at best a 4/10.
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evostevo1 said:
With a little development we can get it to a 6. If be plenty happy with that.
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True.
In two weeks I shed my 40 hour a week job for no more than 20 hours a week of school. Then the fun can begin. Hopefully just in time for official GB.
The S2 against any phone currently is a big difference
...but I do like my big screen.
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Looking forward to that! I believe this phone has a reasonable amount of potential even if it is an over clocked captivate. Lol.
MikeyMike01 said:
True.
In two weeks I shed my 40 hour a week job for no more than 20 hours a week of school. Then the fun can begin. Hopefully just in time for official GB.
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Dani897 said:
apple with ios5 would look attractive if steve jobs wasn't the devil.
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iOS 5 makes it hard to hate on the iPhone anymore.
If Apple would open up just a little, tiny, bit... add Flash, and some other minor things, they could wipe out Android.
One thing is certain, the Nexus Prime better be a home run, or Android/Google is in trouble.
From my experience so far (I have both currently) I really enjoy both phones, but they are completely different. The 4.27 seems like a mile when the 4.5 Infuse is held next to it and since I do photography it's hard for me to put the Infuse down. I get MUCH better service in my area (middle of nowhere) drop fewer calls, people hear me better and I hear them better than the SGSII. I need to really push that because its important to me my Infuse doesn't just get slightly better service I can't convey enough how much better it is. In an area that At&t people do not have service (my captivate had none, my sgsII has none, other phones have none) the Infuse has 1 maybe even 2 bars it may not be 3G but enough to make a pleasantly clear call.
The SGSII is fast when I open up 5 or 6 tabs on dolphin browser with flash involved, switch over to Youtube and watch a video, pull my email and check one or two, shoot someone a text then switch back over to the browser.....but I get this busy on my phone maybe once a month. I then quickly realize what I'm doing is about to require a computer OR that a computer would just make things easier any way at that point.
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Infuse has no issues that stand out to me, camera, speed (faster than my modded captivate when I ran Infused 2.0) screen quality colors a little washed I think because of resolution of a larger screen but difference was really negligible, microphone quality, speaker quality (phone and external) very smooth, Touchwiz 3 is boring: Touchwiz 4 would be amazing on a larger screen like the Infuse.
SGSII - Screen at 4.27 seems a mile away from 4.5 - Through daily regular "normal" use I notice NO difference between a dual core and a bump in RAM. Simple use of browser, email, phone, text etc. I see no speed advantage. I do not feel the OS or apps have been fully optimized to take full advantage of both cores. An extra 512mb and you may notice a difference in daily use but otherwise the rest would again be negligible. My microphone suffers from the clarity issue as others, NOT one single person understands a word out of my mouth on the S2 and I have tried every single fix. Because of this I have almost thrown this phone just like my captivate I stop only because I have much more invested and I intend to get my money back. I am quite frankly upset with the overall product. Part of my reason for picking it up was the development and how much it has already got designed for it, but when I have done everything possible to fix it with no luck its a hardware issue and I am not the only one that has suffered this. I do have a pink spot on the camera, this can only be seen on a white wall in the correct light, since I don't photograph white walls in medium light....this doesn't concern me. For the slightly yellow left side of the screen...I have that to - I never noticed it until I read about it. The microphone kills me and highly annoys anyone else on the phone. Search for the other posts on this if you want, but I assure you I will never spend almost $700 on another Samsung phone again that's for certain. I will be keeping my Infuse and enjoying its massive screen with great call quality and reception. Slower or not it's basic phone functionality is still intact for a price that is less than half as much as the SGSII.
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It's an OC Captivate with a bigger screen, slightly better camera/ffc, more RAM and slightly better battery life. Can't forget pretend-4G either.
If Captivate is 1/10, and SGS II is 10/10, then Infuse is at best a 4/10.
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Is SGSII has the same screen resolution as Infuse?
Nexus Prime or gtfo
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Infiniti350GT said:
From my experience so far (I have both currently) I really enjoy both phones, but they are completely different. The 4.27 seems like a mile when the 4.5 Infuse is held next to it and since I do photography it's hard for me to put the Infuse down. I get MUCH better service in my area (middle of nowhere) drop fewer calls, people hear me better and I hear them better than the SGSII. I need to really push that because its important to me my Infuse doesn't just get slightly better service I can't convey enough how much better it is. In an area that At&t people do not have service (my captivate had none, my sgsII has none, other phones have none) the Infuse has 1 maybe even 2 bars it may not be 3G but enough to make a pleasantly clear call.
The SGSII is fast when I open up 5 or 6 tabs on dolphin browser with flash involved, switch over to Youtube and watch a video, pull my email and check one or two, shoot someone a text then switch back over to the browser.....but I get this busy on my phone maybe once a month. I then quickly realize what I'm doing is about to require a computer OR that a computer would just make things easier any way at that point.
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Infuse has no issues that stand out to me, camera, speed (faster than my modded captivate when I ran Infused 2.0) screen quality colors a little washed I think because of resolution of a larger screen but difference was really negligible, microphone quality, speaker quality (phone and external) very smooth, Touchwiz 3 is boring: Touchwiz 4 would be amazing on a larger screen like the Infuse.
SGSII - Screen at 4.27 seems a mile away from 4.5 - Through daily regular "normal" use I notice NO difference between a dual core and a bump in RAM. Simple use of browser, email, phone, text etc. I see no speed advantage. I do not feel the OS or apps have been fully optimized to take full advantage of both cores. An extra 512mb and you may notice a difference in daily use but otherwise the rest would again be negligible. My microphone suffers from the clarity issue as others, NOT one single person understands a word out of my mouth on the S2 and I have tried every single fix. Because of this I have almost thrown this phone just like my captivate I stop only because I have much more invested and I intend to get my money back. I am quite frankly upset with the overall product. Part of my reason for picking it up was the development and how much it has already got designed for it, but when I have done everything possible to fix it with no luck its a hardware issue and I am not the only one that has suffered this. I do have a pink spot on the camera, this can only be seen on a white wall in the correct light, since I don't photograph white walls in medium light....this doesn't concern me. For the slightly yellow left side of the screen...I have that to - I never noticed it until I read about it. The microphone kills me and highly annoys anyone else on the phone. Search for the other posts on this if you want, but I assure you I will never spend almost $700 on another Samsung phone again that's for certain. I will be keeping my Infuse and enjoying its massive screen with great call quality and reception. Slower or not it's basic phone functionality is still intact for a price that is less than half as much as the SGSII.
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agree as sg s2 is easily available in my country(India).
The screen size & quality of infuse is killer.
Really Kudos to Gtg that he has given Gingerbread to us.
I have observed no lag with this device.
I feel no need for S2
Is SGSII has the same screen resolution as Infuse?
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YES
Infiniti350GT said:
From my experience so far (I have both currently) I really enjoy both phones, but they are completely different. The 4.27 seems like a mile when the 4.5 Infuse is held next to it and since I do photography it's hard for me to put the Infuse down. I get MUCH better service in my area (middle of nowhere) drop fewer calls, people hear me better and I hear them better than the SGSII. I need to really push that because its important to me my Infuse doesn't just get slightly better service I can't convey enough how much better it is. In an area that At&t people do not have service (my captivate had none, my sgsII has none, other phones have none) the Infuse has 1 maybe even 2 bars it may not be 3G but enough to make a pleasantly clear call.
The SGSII is fast when I open up 5 or 6 tabs on dolphin browser with flash involved, switch over to Youtube and watch a video, pull my email and check one or two, shoot someone a text then switch back over to the browser.....but I get this busy on my phone maybe once a month. I then quickly realize what I'm doing is about to require a computer OR that a computer would just make things easier any way at that point.
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Infuse has no issues that stand out to me, camera, speed (faster than my modded captivate when I ran Infused 2.0) screen quality colors a little washed I think because of resolution of a larger screen but difference was really negligible, microphone quality, speaker quality (phone and external) very smooth, Touchwiz 3 is boring: Touchwiz 4 would be amazing on a larger screen like the Infuse.
SGSII - Screen at 4.27 seems a mile away from 4.5 - Through daily regular "normal" use I notice NO difference between a dual core and a bump in RAM. Simple use of browser, email, phone, text etc. I see no speed advantage. I do not feel the OS or apps have been fully optimized to take full advantage of both cores. An extra 512mb and you may notice a difference in daily use but otherwise the rest would again be negligible. My microphone suffers from the clarity issue as others, NOT one single person understands a word out of my mouth on the S2 and I have tried every single fix. Because of this I have almost thrown this phone just like my captivate I stop only because I have much more invested and I intend to get my money back. I am quite frankly upset with the overall product. Part of my reason for picking it up was the development and how much it has already got designed for it, but when I have done everything possible to fix it with no luck its a hardware issue and I am not the only one that has suffered this. I do have a pink spot on the camera, this can only be seen on a white wall in the correct light, since I don't photograph white walls in medium light....this doesn't concern me. For the slightly yellow left side of the screen...I have that to - I never noticed it until I read about it. The microphone kills me and highly annoys anyone else on the phone. Search for the other posts on this if you want, but I assure you I will never spend almost $700 on another Samsung phone again that's for certain. I will be keeping my Infuse and enjoying its massive screen with great call quality and reception. Slower or not it's basic phone functionality is still intact for a price that is less than half as much as the SGSII.
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After my few hours with Both the US SGS2 and the infuse side by side I can't disagree more...and that is saying much. Previously I honestly thought the differences would be minimal
web Pages and apps just simply load faster, the screen definitely looks better, more vivid and less "breakage" (i guess response is the work I am looking for there)
It seemed much more capable of multitasking in comparison to the infuse. It didn't bog down and lag like my infuse does.
Gps locked immediately..battery life was unchanged during my testing (however this could be misleading..I noticed the stock rom on the infuse drops in 15% increments)
I almost say, yeah, I will be picking one up and rotating our phones down to the kids...but I want to know more about what HTC has planned for release in the coming months...and am curious to know more about the prime that we keep hearing about....though from everything I have been told...Verizon will be getting that one first.
Keep in mind that I will never...and I mean NEVER pay more than $200 for a phone haha.. I purchase every phone we buy on contract for the contract price. So I could definitely say that I would never pay $700 for a phone.
Guys, I have a new Infuse and was concerned it would be too big as a phone. I've always felt like 4.3" was large enough. But after using my Infuse today while out and about, I have to say it's perfect. It makes the perfect mix of a tablet and phone combo.
I sat down to some lunch at a quickstop while waiting on relatives to do their grocery shopping. I pulled out my Infuse to surf the web and look at XDA. I was pleased when I proceeded to reply in an XDA thread. I set the Infuse down on the table in landscape mode and proceeded to type and found that it was almost as easy as using the keyboard on a larger tablet. I sat there typing away like I was typing on a full size PC keyboard.
The size and shape of the Infuse just really makes it perfect as a tiny tablet with phone function. It's not only incredibly handsome to look at, but also provides a convenient user experience. I have an HD2, which is just 2/10th smaller than the Infuse and have a nice Tytung Nexus S ROM flashed on it and it has never provided the satisfying sensation I just had with my Infuse today.
Don't get me wrong, though. It isn't all praise for the Infuse. In the contrary, my Infuse has shown me that Samsung doesn't know anything about software creation. This Infuse has been the first Samsung branded Android phone I've ever owned and has been the most buggy and temperamental smartphone I've ever used. And I have a number of other phones. I've also used a number of other Android phones. TouchWiz is a pure joke of an Android overlay. I always thought MotoBlur was the worst Android overlay. But TouchWiz has it bested easily. But my poor Samsung UI experience isn't limited to Samsung phones. I also have high-end Samsung DAPs. And all of them have deplorable UIs.
Nevertheless, the Infuse is an outstanding example of how Samsung could, if they were motivated and properly focused, rule the smartphone market. The hardware is just excellent. I checked the audio quality last night with some high-end IEMs and top-end encoded music files and found the sound quality to be superb. It's on par with my Cowon D2 and iPod Nano 3G, both of which use the Wolfson audio chip. The camera I find to be quite excellent as well. The choice of CPU is nice: the Hummingbird A8. And the display is nothing shy of gorgeous. But in order for Sammy to rule the market they'd need to allow an outside company to do all of their software creation. I hope that when AT&T pushes out the Gingerbread update for the Infuse it will settle much of the bugginess and issues with the Infuse. But I seriously doubt it. Right now I've settled on using an alternative launcher on my Infuse to get away from TW.
By the way, mine isn't rooted yet. I may or may not choose to root it. But I won't be rooting it until after the GB update occurs.
MartyLK said:
Guys, I have a new Infuse and was concerned it would be too big as a phone. I've always felt like 4.3" was large enough. But after using my Infuse today while out and about, I have to say it's perfect. It makes the perfect mix of a tablet and phone combo.
I sat down to some lunch at a quickstop while waiting on relatives to do their grocery shopping. I pulled out my Infuse to surf the web and look at XDA. I was pleased when I proceeded to reply in an XDA thread. I set the Infuse down on the table in landscape mode and proceeded to type and found that it was almost as easy as using the keyboard on a larger tablet. I sat there typing away like I was typing on a full size PC keyboard.
The size and shape of the Infuse just really makes it perfect as a tiny tablet with phone function. It's not only incredibly handsome to look at, but also provides a convenient user experience. I have an HD2, which is just 2/10th smaller than the Infuse and have a nice Tytung Nexus S ROM flashed on it and it has never provided the satisfying sensation I just had with my Infuse today.
Don't get me wrong, though. It isn't all praise for the Infuse. In the contrary, my Infuse has shown me that Samsung doesn't know anything about software creation. This Infuse has been the first Samsung branded Android phone I've ever owned and has been the most buggy and temperamental smartphone I've ever used. And I have a number of other phones. I've also used a number of other Android phones. TouchWiz is a pure joke of an Android overlay. I always thought MotoBlur was the worst Android overlay. But TouchWiz has it bested easily. But my poor Samsung UI experience isn't limited to Samsung phones. I also have high-end Samsung DAPs. And all of them have deplorable UIs.
Nevertheless, the Infuse is an outstanding example of how Samsung could, if they were motivated and properly focused, rule the smartphone market. The hardware is just excellent. I checked the audio quality last night with some high-end IEMs and top-end encoded music files and found the sound quality to be superb. It's on par with my Cowon D2 and iPod Nano 3G, both of which use the Wolfson audio chip. The camera I find to be quite excellent as well. The choice of CPU is nice: the Hummingbird A8. And the display is nothing shy of gorgeous. But in order for Sammy to rule the market they'd need to allow an outside company to do all of their software creation. I hope that when AT&T pushes out the Gingerbread update for the Infuse it will settle much of the bugginess and issues with the Infuse. But I seriously doubt it. Right now I've settled on using an alternative launcher on my Infuse to get away from TW.
By the way, mine isn't rooted yet. I may or may not choose to root it. But I won't be rooting it until after the GB update occurs.
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Great write up,i was gonna return mine then I rooted and flashed a rom, now my 30 days is almost up and not sure I want to trade it in for the sg2,i woukd have to go back to my iphone 4 which is like a tiny annoying paper weight, might hold out for the prime cause it should have a4.5 screen
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Why would you quote the entire thing, you're the first reply. You're obviously commenting on his write-up, what else would you be doing by replying? I see this in almost every freaking thread on XDA. It's stupid.
Anywho..
Just root it and be done, it's really not a big deal. Takes two minutes to do and it's easily reversible.
Good write up & most of what you pointed out is why I decided to leave the SGSII and stick with the Infuse. The larger screen has many benefits and played the large part of me keeping it. TW3 is HORRID...TW4 added some nice features & I noticed here and there things that were a great step up to the plate compared to past versions. The widget selection menu and screen set up process is nice...but because of the smaller size screen it seems a little odd because everything shrinks while doing this. I think the Infuse would get much better ratings even with just the upgrade to TW4.
Nearly 2600 posts in 16 months. You sir are my idol.
Infiniti350GT said:
Good write up & most of what you pointed out is why I decided to leave the SGSII and stick with the Infuse. The larger screen has many benefits and played the large part of me keeping it. TW3 is HORRID...TW4 added some nice features & I noticed here and there things that were a great step up to the plate compared to past versions. The widget selection menu and screen set up process is nice...but because of the smaller size screen it seems a little odd because everything shrinks while doing this. I think the Infuse would get much better ratings even with just the upgrade to TW4.
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I certainly hope the coming Infuse GB update will bring more widgets. That's one thing I'm not used to with this Infuse, the lack of widgets. My other Android phones all have had plenty of clock widgets and other kinds of widgets in the OEM ROM. The Infuse doesn't even have a decent clock widget. It has one clock widget: a dual digital clock. And since going to a different launcher, there wasn't even that clock because it shows up only in TW. I had to install a suitable clock widget.