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Hi everyone,
I'm trying to collect some very rough data on how people use task killers.
If you use one, can you please do me a favor and take this survey? It is only 5 questions, and will only take you a few minutes to complete.
I'm not trying to start another debate in this thread: there are plenty of those. I'm just trying to collect data.
Thanks!
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8GD2F2H
Just answered. Using my Arc 2.3.2 "Advanced Task Killer Froyo" doesn't really seem to free up mem when killing apps, so I'm not sure that it actually works. I know that Gingerbread is suppose to not need it, but I like to "kill" all the apps that keeps turning them self on, for no apparent reason...
I did it. Taskiller free and watchdog, no autokill, only to kill internet and such.
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I did it as well.
I did it as well
Done.
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done 10char
Answered as well.
done !!! ;-)
I took it even though I don't use a task killer. It is actually hard to explain to people why they shouldn't use task killers. And those who work at Verizon/Tmobile/ATT stores just tell customers to install them without understanding how the OS manages RAM and using a task killer on makes things a lot worse.
I don't use any task killer. I leave it to Android to manage it. I use AutoKiller Memory Optimizer though.
I use a TasKiller Pro to kill application which consumes a lot of RAM, like Games etc.
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I don't use task killer, just left it to Andriod to do the work. So far so good as long as press back key to exit the apps. Otherwise, use the stock task manager to end the apps. My understanding is Froyo2.2 and above does not require task killer.
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Thank you all for your participation: I really appreciate it. There have been enough responses that I'm now closing the survey.
Thanks again!
I let Android do the work.
But I tell it what to do
I don't like how gingerbread manages memory so I fixed it, but good
I used to used ATK till a few days ago but then after some research online, decided to let Android run on its own. Still have the SystemPanel app for those rogue apps that arent coded properly
Been wondering on whether to use task killers on the Desire S.
Read many articles why you shouldn't use them, but on the other hand i see many people using them.
On my Galaxy Tab, and S2, they both come preinstalled with task killers, and i use them. They help beacause my Tab slows down alot!
But on the Desire S they isnt a task killer present. I havent experienced and lags or anything, since i've had the device for a week.
But just wondering if i use a task killer can i improve the battery life further?
Why did htc not include a task killer, but in sense 3.0 ROms they have it?
also is there any apk etc, to get that new HTC Task Manager without having to change ROM?
So do you use a task killer? Does it improve battery life? If so, which task killer do you use?
Cheers guys
i use advanced task killer pro. it's great. MIUI has an in-built task killer. IDK about battery life, but well, free RAM sure improves multitasking.
I answered I have it but don't use it, as I don't find that the phone lags and even though I do have one installed I use it very very rarely.
I have the htc task killer (as it comes within LBC ROM) , I use it very rarely and only when I find that a process is mis-behaving and not FC'ing on its own.
I also have fast reboot which again I use very sparingly, this closes and then restarts all of the running processes and is like a reboot without powering down the phone (so saves battery) I find that it's useful when attempting to identify sources of battery drain etc.
Ultimately not all programs will function as they should, so I find that its best to have one and not use it rather than not have one and need it
you dont need task killers on android
android automatically kills tasks which are not used when it requires memory(& it usually is very good at this)
& tasks on the RAM do not take any battery,they take battery only when they are active & are using the processor
task managers can actually have a negative effect on your battery life,if you kill a app it will take more processing power to restart again & will cost you more battery but if you leave it on the ram it wont take any battery & starting it again will take less battery
& i have read many android users saying that uninstalling task managers helps them with their lagg problems
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I answered I have it but don't use it, as I don't find that the phone lags and even though I do have one installed I use it very very rarely.
I have the htc task killer (as it comes within LBC ROM) , I use it very rarely and only when I find that a process is mis-behaving and not FC'ing on its own.
I also have fast reboot which again I use very sparingly, this closes and then restarts all of the running processes and is like a reboot without powering down the phone (so saves battery) I find that it's useful when attempting to identify sources of battery drain etc.
Ultimately not all programs will function as they should, so I find that its best to have one and not use it rather than not have one and need it
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Thanks for the info ben! I will check out that reboot app also just found out Android has its own killer if you need to kill apps
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kartkk said:
you dont need task killers on android
android automatically kills tasks which are not used when it requires memory(& it usually is very good at this)
& tasks on the RAM do not take any battery,they take battery only when they are active & are using the processor
task managers can actually have a negative effect on your battery life,if you kill a app it will take more processing power to restart again & will cost you more battery but if you leave it on the ram it wont take any battery & starting it again will take less battery
& i have read many android users saying that uninstalling task managers helps them with their lagg problems
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Thanks kartkk! Just the info I read too guess ill defo not be using a task killer for normal use then
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I shouldn't have worried at the first place if i did open alot of application in my android. thought that it works like windows.
What's bad are automatic task killers. I use System Panel / Task Manager mostly to keep track with my battery usage history & system info but barely use it to kill tasks.
Automatic Task Killer are like most "Tuning" tools on Windows. You never know exactly what they do. There ist no need of "Free" RAM on Android. And, as written, killing a Task will not increase battetry life.
ben_pyett said:
I answered I have it but don't use it, as I don't find that the phone lags and even though I do have one installed I use it very very rarely.
I have the htc task killer (as it comes within LBC ROM) , I use it very rarely and only when I find that a process is mis-behaving and not FC'ing on its own.
I also have fast reboot which again I use very sparingly, this closes and then restarts all of the running processes and is like a reboot without powering down the phone (so saves battery) I find that it's useful when attempting to identify sources of battery drain etc.
Ultimately not all programs will function as they should, so I find that its best to have one and not use it rather than not have one and need it
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Thanks everyone for the input
Ben, I have installed the fast reboot app, and I am very pleased with it
Thanks for sharing! Saves me a full reboot when some apps aren't working
Cheers mate!
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So I'm on CM7 RC1, Latest netarchy bfs, undervolted -20mv, governed on demand, CPU 100-800. Got about 17 hours with normal for me use, thought maybe I could squeeze out even more battery life with an auto task killer and got about 12 hours. Has anyone else experienced this? And its the first task killer that shows up if you search auto task killer gingerbread on the market.
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A lot of them do use memory. If you use some they do. I use the ones in the rom like miui or like go launchers. Is you look at battery usage it will prove what your saying. Also setcpu is awesome because you can make screen off priorities and even with data it saves tons.
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try using auto memory manager
works great for me
To me it makes sense if a task killer would cause more battery drain. Imagine it's trying to kill a task and after a few minutes later the task try to restart itself again -- then go on this loop for the whole day.
Task killers are bull****. They create more problems than they solve. They have been so misused that Google finally had to remove the possibility to kill tasks in Android 2.2. If you have Android 2.2+, task killers just don't work!
The one and only time a task killer is useful, is when you have a specific app that is misbehaving. Then, and only then, you use a task killer to kill just that one app.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-tips-tricks/193170-automatic-task-killer-why-you-need.html
already stop using task killer after i watched one video on youtube .
" android dont need your help "
suksit said:
To me it makes sense if a task killer would cause more battery drain. Imagine it's trying to kill a task and after a few minutes later the task try to restart itself again -- then go on this loop for the whole day.
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shrivelfig said:
Task killers are bull****. They create more problems than they solve. They have been so misused that Google finally had to remove the possibility to kill tasks in Android 2.2. If you have Android 2.2+, task killers just don't work!
The one and only time a task killer is useful, is when you have a specific app that is misbehaving. Then, and only then, you use a task killer to kill just that one app.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-tips-tricks/193170-automatic-task-killer-why-you-need.html
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Yep - task-killers are a relic of Android 1.1, when Android needed help regulating tasks. Since Android 1.5 they've been at best redundant, and at worst counter-productive. And since 2.2, they've been downright useless.
Advanced task killer is a very good app but i found that when i put it to kill tasks when screen off, it sometimes doesn't work??? It happened with my galaxy s and now with my xperia s
how you know it doesn't work ?
damysos said:
how you know it doesn't work ?
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well when i turn the screen on and then off it would say x apps killed then i check the task list and see most of them are killed, but sometimes it doesn't work. Usually when i go directly into task killer then turn it off and then on it would work. Also i made sure task killer itself is not killed
Task killers are terrible. They actually waste battery power and reduce performance. This is well known and has been covered many times.
Uninstall.
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it doesn't use battery to me if you know how to use them correctly i only use it when screen off once
Android has a native task killer built in. The dalvik virtual machine keeps a certain amount of memory free while allowing apps to run and shuts them down when the limits are reached. If you really want to have a better task killer use a mem free script such as v6 supercharger, and use aggressive settings.
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unrealboot1 said:
it doesn't use battery to me if you know how to use them correctly i only use it when screen off once
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No offense, but simply put you are completely wrong and clearly do not understand how Android automatically handles processes and memory very efficiently without need for user intervention.
Again, DO NOT use task killers and your phone will work properly - and better.
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Crashdamage said:
No offense, but simply put you are completely wrong and clearly do not understand how Android automatically handles processes and memory very efficiently without need for user intervention.
Again, DO NOT use task killers and your phone will work properly - and better.
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well i tell you why i want to use it. Its only when screen off anyways so minimum killing when necessary. But for example sometimes i start dolphin app and just go back to the main screen but dolphin is still running and using cpu, my phone gets hot, it seems sometimes apps get stuck in cpu. Then when i turn off the phone it will kill it cos of the task killer. If i turn off the phone and i dont kill it, dolphin will continue to use up 40% continuously making the phone hot and use up massive battery. Im sure some of you know this it happens with other apps too maybe its a problem with android gingerbread. Note dolphin doesn't always do this, only sometimes.
what im saying is some apps get cpu locked for some reason, so you have to kill it right?
Then Dolphin is your problem. Fixing it or using a different browser is the cure. Using a task killer is just sticking a Band-Aid over a wound that will never heal.
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Then Dolphin is your problem. Fixing it or using a different browser is the cure. Using a task killer is just sticking a Band-Aid over a wound that will never heal.
Registered Linux user #266351 Android since v1.0
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But its not dolphin its other apps too sometimes they get stuck in cpu. So i want to turn off my screen and it will kill all.
granted it happens rarely but it still happens, i notice sometimes when my phone is off and its hot i check the processes and see a funky app wasting on cpu
Same thing still applies. The only real, effective solution is fixing or finding alternatives for the offending apps. Using a task killer is NOT the cure.
If the light in your room will not turn off because the switch is broken, is the right fix replacing the switch or unscrewing the bulb over and over?
Besides, that task killer is causing other problems you're not even aware of.
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Absolutely correct CrashDamage. Task killers do no good at all. Do some Googling on android task killers, and you will get an answer to your concern
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Ok i wont be using dolphin then or just force close that manually if it locks the cpu or if any other app does it.
Yep, use another browser.
you need putting in agressive mode
Just because you see it in the advance task manager doesn't mean it's running. Example samsung stock touchwiz shows you what app is using the cpu. App use a certain amount memory when it gets so to the the limit android with get rid of the oldest app that is not being used. To make room for more.
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Thank you for the information. But I do notice a considerable improvement in battery power with Advanced Task Killer.
I hope someone can provide me an answer.
Greetings,
I know it is bad practice because I read about it on the forums and ran a lot of Google research but I would like to kill an application automatically at a specific time, this is temporary though.
It is a work phone, so I am not allowed to root it.
Would there be a way, without the phone rooted, to use Tasker or a way to ask a script to use the Task Manager of Android to "Exit" an application?
Is there another way to do that as well?
I tried to use Tasker to kill the application, but whenever I try to launch it after it has been closed, the telephone displays a black screen and I have to reboot it.
I tried to use the Terminal Emulator as well and the kill function but it says "Operation not permitted".
Thanks a lot to all for your time and help.
Ryu Hayabusa said:
Greetings,
I know it is bad practice because I read about it on the forums and ran a lot of Google research but I would like to kill an application automatically at a specific time, this is temporary though.
It is a work phone, so I am not allowed to root it.
Would there be a way, without the phone rooted, to use Tasker or a way to ask a script to use the Task Manager of Android to "Exit" an application?
Is there another way to do that as well?
I tried to use Tasker to kill the application, but whenever I try to launch it after it has been closed, the telephone displays a black screen and I have to reboot it.
I tried to use the Terminal Emulator as well and the kill function but it says "Operation not permitted".
Thanks a lot to all for your time and help.
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try some task killers with autokill like advanced task killer
and the emulator thing didnt work cause you havent root access