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I'm on Tmo and there seem to be a flurry of high end devices; G2, myTouch, HD7, and Dell VP.
I'm in between the MT-HD and the Dell VP. I like the myTouch over the G2 because I don't like the bulk of a hardware KB and I like the FFC of the MT-HD. I favor the Dell over the HD7 for the AMOLED screen and the psuedo-exclusivity of it as it will only be sold online, like my N1.
So, which one is better?
hmarcus said:
I'm on Tmo and there seem to be a flurry of high end devices; G2, myTouch, HD7, and Dell VP.
I'm in between the MT-HD and the Dell VP. I like the myTouch over the G2 because I don't like the bulk of a hardware KB and I like the FFC of the MT-HD. I favor the Dell over the HD7 for the AMOLED screen and the psuedo-exclusivity of it as it will only be sold online, like my N1.
So, which one is better?
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Go for the MyTouch - WP7 lacks a lot of basic things, cut/paste among them. Also, no HSPA+ phones at WP7 launch, so you're better off with the faster device, faster network, and better all-around OS.
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Go for the MyTouch - WP7 lacks a lot of basic things, cut/paste among them. Also, no HSPA+ phones at WP7 launch, so you're better off with the faster device, faster network, and better all-around OS.
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I just don't understand why WP7 doesn't support HSPA+ pretty disappointed. I'm intrigued by WP7 in the way I am with a very hot girl, but who is dumb. Drawn to it despite my better judgment and I can't help it.
I just like the Dell hardware and WP7 is new and I'm a little bored of Android. Hopefully Gingerbread quells that.
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Personally...from looking at the specs, and knowing the unrootable issue with the G2...I would definitively go with the 4G. Not only are you getting a great device....but the mobile data speeds are suppose to be double and nearly triple on this device.
While I'll be buying the Dell Venue Pro, I can tell you'd probably enjoy the myTouch 4G more.
Or you could do like me and just buy both, lol. I love Android too much to completely abandon it. Don't think I'll go with the myTouch 4G, though. Don't like the styling.
Just so you know, the dell won't be sold in t mobile stores.
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Just so you know, the dell won't be sold in t mobile stores.
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I know. It'll be sold Nexus One style, online only with tmo subsidy.
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ericc191 said:
While I'll be buying the Dell Venue Pro, I can tell you'd probably enjoy the myTouch 4G more.
Or you could do like me and just buy both, lol. I love Android too much to completely abandon it. Don't think I'll go with the myTouch 4G, though. Don't like the styling.
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The styling is the only thing wrong w the phone. Has all the latest hardware and assuming it can be rooted and have ROMs loaded on it, I think I can get past it. Although the red color they slowed on Engadget earlier this month does look pretty nice.
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You honestly can't go wrong with either. It just depends on if you want to try something new and fresh or something you're familiar with and know what all it has already.
As for the Venue being sold online only, can you link me to where you read that? The reason I ask is cause USPS lost my G2 while I was trying to have it returned and I really don't want to order another phone and risk having it lost/stolen again.
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You honestly can't go wrong with either. It just depends on if you want to try something new and fresh or something you're familiar with and know what all it has already.
As for the Venue being sold online only, can you link me to where you read that? The reason I ask is cause USPS lost my G2 while I was trying to have it returned and I really don't want to order another phone and risk having it lost/stolen again.
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It's on any of the youtube previews and engadget, pocketnow, etc. I'd do you a greater service and link you to Dell where you could pre order one, but they have done little in promoting this thing so far and not even up for pre order yet. The only mention of the thing is on Dell's blog and there's no release date or pricing.
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hmarcus said:
I just don't understand why WP7 doesn't support HSPA+ pretty disappointed. I'm intrigued by WP7 in the way I am with a very hot girl, but who is dumb. Drawn to it despite my better judgment and I can't help it.
I just like the Dell hardware and WP7 is new and I'm a little bored of Android. Hopefully Gingerbread quells that.
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thats how i feel about the mytouch hd/4g drawn in to the shiney, but unlike you i prefer a physical keyboard, but wtih the mytouch's slightly faster processor and front facing camera i have to wonder which is better for me in the long run.
Eh I dont see this coming out till 3rd quarter if we're lucky. I'm either going to take the plunge for the Desire-Z (if I can get a NAM). And buy the Glacier when it comes out.
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Eh I dont see this coming out till 3rd quarter if we're lucky. I'm either going to take the plunge for the Desire-Z (if I can get a NAM). And buy the Glacier when it comes out.
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It's coming out Nov. 3rd
HamNCheese said:
Go for the MyTouch - WP7 lacks a lot of basic things, cut/paste among them. Also, no HSPA+ phones at WP7 launch, so you're better off with the faster device, faster network, and better all-around OS.
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I'm not sure where you confirmed the wp7 phones will not be hspa+ but I know for a fact that the hd7 will be a hspa+ enabled phone. Can't say for your dell though.
GL
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I'm not sure where you confirmed the wp7 phones will not be hspa+ but I know for a fact that the hd7 will be a hspa+ enabled phone. Can't say for your dell though.
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Several sites have published previews of the phone specifically stating that it won't have the HSPA+ speeds.
See these: (sorry, can't do links yet)
EDIT "I can ":
http://www.pcworld.com/article/207411/htcs_windows_phone_7_shines_handson_with_the_hd7.html
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2370599,00.asp
im getting both ..........
I want to buy a few CHEAP Android phones preferably with stock 2.2+ roms, for the purpose of testing some multiplayer apps across lower-end devices. As long as they are unlocked and can access the Market, they'll work. Rooted is not necessary, and physical condition can be anywhere from mint to poor, it doesn't matter since I'll only be using them for testing.
I didn't post this in the Buy/Sell forum because I was wondering if anyone could just suggest some phones that are cheap that I could probably pick up on eBay or online somewhere ... although if you do have a phone you want to sell for cheap then let me know. Thanks!
Huwai Comet and Samsung Dart are $100 brand new, no contract from T-Mobile. I saw a few Comets sold <$50 on eBay, used.
Probably the only way to get an Android phone cheaper than that is to buy used. They are very low-end QVGA devices. You could get a used MyTouch 3G or G1 for well under $100. Even cheaper than that would be an old WinMo phone that can run Android via Haret.
If you have any interest in a slightly beat up looking MyTouch 3G 1.2 that only works on AT&T, send me a PM.
The HTC Incredible is great, a classic and is cheap. I would check that out.
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Huwai Comet and Samsung Dart are $100 brand new, no contract from T-Mobile. I saw a few Comets sold <$50 on eBay, used.
Probably the only way to get an Android phone cheaper than that is to buy used. They are very low-end QVGA devices. You could get a used MyTouch 3G or G1 for well under $100. Even cheaper than that would be an old WinMo phone that can run Android via Haret.
If you have any interest in a slightly beat up looking MyTouch 3G 1.2 that only works on AT&T, send me a PM.
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I'm looking up the Comets now but they're all locked to T-Mobile, which means I'd have to spend more money getting them unlocked. It also looks like the G1's are all on outdated versions of Android, and since I do the majority of my apps for 2.1+ they won't work on it.
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The HTC Incredible is great, a classic and is cheap. I would check that out.
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While the Incredible has come down in price, I would not consider it a low end device.
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The cricket Zio M6000
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Any other recommendations?
I've seen used LG Optimus One variants go for $60-80 on Craigslist. The Optimus One runs 2.2 stock, and you can get whichever one is right for your carrier (there's one for each, even the MVNOs).
Low end you say? I consider the myTouch 3G or slide. If you want something with Froyo these days you might need to step out of your comfort zone. Again, the Vibrant is mid-range so get that. It has Gingerbread coming soon I think.
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I have a mytouch 3g laying around. Would have to get the unlock code for it though
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Motorola defy? Im sure you could find one cheap enough.
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Galaxy 3 is quite cheap.
In my experience, it's best not to take the cheap road when it comes to Android phones. My girlfriend had the Samsung Intercept from Sprint (low/mid-range phone) and it was awful. Everything on it lagged, and simple games were unplayable. If you want to test on some higher-end devices, check ebay for locked phones. They won't be able to be used as phones, but you can connect them with WiFi and use everything else like normal. Another option is running the Android sdk on your computer and testing things that way. I've only played around with it a little bit, but it should be able to do what you need. Just Google "Android SDK" and click the first link.
Verizon locks the phone until you activate for some STUPID reason.
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jered6323 said:
In my experience, it's best not to take the cheap road when it comes to Android phones. My girlfriend had the Samsung Intercept from Sprint (low/mid-range phone) and it was awful. Everything on it lagged, and simple games were unplayable. If you want to test on some higher-end devices, check ebay for locked phones. They won't be able to be used as phones, but you can connect them with WiFi and use everything else like normal. Another option is running the Android sdk on your computer and testing things that way. I've only played around with it a little bit, but it should be able to do what you need. Just Google "Android SDK" and click the first link.
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I have the Transforn which is the follow up. It cost 150 and it is crap. I am doe with Samsung.
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a ZTE Blade is also a good cheap phone, if bought as an orange san francisco and then unlock it.
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Huwai Comet and Samsung Dart are $100 brand new, no contract from T-Mobile.
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You can root/simunlock(100%free)/cyanogenmod the Dart, have a look here for the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21435357&postcount=114
do you guys think it would be a good idea to get a nexus prime?
Yes
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yup, if it comes in AWS
So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?
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So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?
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Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again and that curve on the screen isn't so insanely exaggerated as the teaser makes it appear to be.
JaiaV said:
Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again
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Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"
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Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"
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The Nexus S 4G (which wasn't really different), so I did do a bit of keyboard-in-mouth, for a minute there I did forget the Nexus S came out on T-Mobile first. Tired.
I came from the Nexus One, bought the G2x off-contract, specically to be able to pick up the Nexus Prime at a discount.
I just hope the nexus prime won't disappoint. Rumors on specs are mixed. The qualcomm chips in the Tmo SG2 and Amaze are meh. Also 5mp camera is meh.... other specs say it'll have the Exynos chipset and 8mp cam. Some say Verizon will get it first others say T-Mobile. Verizon has the Droid Prime with similar specs already and aren't ones to keep it clean with Android.
Either way, if the specs are worthwhile over the G2x, I'll grab it.
Best solution for me personally would be Verizon with sweet specs as my old work blackberry needs upgraded and I set up our new exchange to work properly so my company is allowing Android sets now... meaning I can kill my $70 personal T-Mobile line, sell my G2x and profit.
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I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.
Will it work on at&t?
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Yeah. I think it'll get more development support and the devs won't have to worry about nvidia giving up the source codes.
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The Prime looks nice but I plan on holding onto my G2x until the phone hits at least the one year mark if not more to see what's coming next spring and summer. Quad core phones anyone?
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I know everyone wants the latest and greatest, but sometimes it's a bit overkill. Unless you have a good job with 500+ bucks to throw I don't see why we should be running to get the Prime when you already have a Tegra 2 Dual core device. Nothing can even tough this device yet.
It'd be hard for me to dump my dual core device for another dual core. At this point might as well wait for whatever the next gen quads come out next year. And once that happens, I don't even know what we'd do with a quad core lol.
Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.
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Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.
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Agreed ten fold. I'm waiting til the Nexus Double Prime before I plan to upgrade. This phone is doing just fine, and has a very nice set of developers working on it for us.
If they did make quad core phones, I bet the battery life would be at least 20% worse than now. When I'm not even getting super amazing battery life to begin with, it might be a problem.
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I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.
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Yeah, main difference between the two will be updates. Something the G2X will probably never officially see. After the half ass 2.3 update we got I'm pretty much over it.
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I really don't see the point of quad core phones; unless Google does something unbelievable with Jelly Bean that needs an insane amount of processing, nothing a smartphone does needs that much. Hell, dual core isn't even that necessary unless you run a lot of 3D stuff.
There is such a thing as overkill people. I'd like to see phone manufactorers declare the smartphone as it exists now finished and start working on some new innovations that would make better hardware necessary. 3D screen ala Nintendo 3DS with FFC capable of eye-tracking to orient the 3D so you see it at any angle?
While I agree that the G2x can hold its own, I do miss owning a nexus device. My friend still has his Nexus One and running official software we can only get via custom roms.
My reasoning to grabbing the Nexus Prime IF if launches on Verizon is so my work can pay for it. Unfortunately I heard Verizon is launching the Galaxy Prime.... which is similar but not the nexus prime backed by Google.
Well just have to wait until Tuesday. All the rumors running around its hard to make any reasonable decision.
If Verizon gets gimped on Google support then I'll keep my G2x for a long while.
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Agreed. My work is on sprint and I am waiting to see if it launches on sprint. If it does, I'll pick it up. If not, either sii or stay on g2x. It looks to me that the prime is going to launch on everyone but sprint.
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Hey guy I was thinking about buying HTC One X online and using it with T-mobile. I have the unlimited $49 plan which means any phone I buy that i have to pay full price for anyway. Also, I understand that it doesn't have the radio for 3G data but thats fine with me since I am on wifi 90% of my day.'
The only thing that I am worried about is tegra 3 making the phone lack dev support. Should I stay clear and wait for a GSIII or should I take the plunge?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/03/htc-one-x-and-one-s-come-to-orange-t-mobile-on-thursday/
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/03/htc-one-x-and-one-s-come-to-orange-t-mobile-on-thursday/
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wrong T-Mobile. That is the international Telecom not the American
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/03/htc-one-x-and-one-s-come-to-orange-t-mobile-on-thursday/
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That answers none of his questions lol, but good find I'll read it in a bit. Other then that I'm staying away from them for that one reason, I am almost positive that MoDaCo has already achieved root for the device and that means will possibly be working on the device himself... if that is the case, then you are in luck especially if you get the European version, cause that is the omr he will be working on. Other then that I vote no lol.
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Tegra will always remain closed source and rely on hacked sources for anything to work. I love my g2x for its great performance in games but never again will I make the mistake of owning a nvidia based phone. Samsungs own Mali & TI OMAP based chips will always be ahead of tegra in my view.
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d12unk13astard said:
Tegra will always remain closed source and rely on hacked sources for anything to work. I love my g2x for its great performance in games but never again will I make the mistake of owning a nvidia based phone. Samsungs own Mali & TI OMAP based chips will always be ahead of tegra in my view.
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We can hope more phones are going to use the Tegra 3 chip so you have a lot more resources to choose from. The reason the g2x is so bad is that it wasn't implemented on to many phones so there has been less devices to port from. With such a small amount of devices means a smaller chance they will be updated quickly. If one tegra 2 phone got upgraded to ice cream then we would have a fully working ice cream sandwich. With htc using it and it's reputation for upgrading devices quickly then you might have no problem with roms
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d12unk13astard said:
Tegra will always remain closed source and rely on hacked sources for anything to work. I love my g2x for its great performance in games but never again will I make the mistake of owning a nvidia based phone. Samsungs own Mali & TI OMAP based chips will always be ahead of tegra in my view.
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Samsung's processors and gpu's are WAY faster than the tegra
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mackpbj said:
Hey guy I was thinking about buying HTC One X online and using it with T-mobile. I have the unlimited $49 plan which means any phone I buy that i have to pay full price for anyway. Also, I understand that it doesn't have the radio for 3G data but thats fine with me since I am on wifi 90% of my day.'
The only thing that I am worried about is tegra 3 making the phone lack dev support. Should I stay clear and wait for a GSIII or should I take the plunge?
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I am in Manhattan and currently sell the HTC One X @ $580. I only have white ones left. Gray ones coming on Friday. Please PM for details.
RF12 said:
I am in Manhattan and currently sell the HTC One X @ $580. I only have white ones left. Gray ones coming on Friday. Please PM for details.
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Are they working on the HSPA+ on T-Mobile USA???
No, it isn't penta-band. 3G speeds on at&t only.
mariuscm said:
Are they working on the HSPA+ on T-Mobile USA???
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Don't buy it, the current Tegra 3 is just a transitional SOC. You'll be in the same position as owning a phone with the Tegra 2 SOC - SOL.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nvidia-tegra-3-plus-lte-77954/
http://www.androidauthority.com/nvidia-tegra-4-vs-samsung-exynos-rumor-roundup-73382/
Also, you can't pull the battery on that thing. It's like the iPhone. Your battery dies, you gotta replace the phone.
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Also, you can't pull the battery on that thing. It's like the iPhone. Your battery dies, you gotta replace the phone.
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Wow. For almost all phones. Hold both volume And power button and it will reboot
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He not saying for reboot purpose he saying in general once the battery goes out you have to send it in for replacement.
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mackpbj said:
Hey guy I was thinking about buying HTC One X online and using it with T-mobile. I have the unlimited $49 plan which means any phone I buy that i have to pay full price for anyway. Also, I understand that it doesn't have the radio for 3G data but thats fine with me since I am on wifi 90% of my day.'
The only thing that I am worried about is tegra 3 making the phone lack dev support. Should I stay clear and wait for a GSIII or should I take the plunge?
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Buy my new One S instead only $450 shipped
should i sell my g2x and buy motorola atrix?? the reason of sale obviously ICS.. because i see no sign of G2x getting official ICS
You should also buy some books on proper English grammar. Sell, not sale.
But, Atrix is on At&t, don't you have a T-Mobile plan currently? Just get the Galaxy Nexus for $400 instead.
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should i sale my g2x and buy motorola atrix?? the reason of sale obviously ICS.. because i see no sign of G2x getting official ICS
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If you can look beyond that its a really great phone. Will the Atrix get the new "jelly bean" os? I have no idea what they are gonna call it. It's a common issue with some android phones/ Manufacturers.
how much can you get an Atrix for?
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You should also buy some books on proper English grammar. Sell, not sale.
But, Atrix is on At&t, don't you have a T-Mobile plan currently? Just get the Galaxy Nexus for $400 instead.
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At&t nor Tmobile is available where he resides.
The atrix is extremely laggy. I've used one. I think it's something to do with the motoblur or whatever they use.
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Despite having twice the RAM as the G2x, I've noticed the Atrix is MUCH slower, in fact despite the RAM and the screen differences the Atrix and G2x (say both their names real fast and they even sound alike..lol!) can almost be twins. I also considered getting one to play with (found a used one for $180), but I checked it's section here on XDA and I didn't find any ICS roms for it. I don't think it's going to be upgraded to JellyBean, considering it's probably not getting ICS. Even as a toy I wouldn't get one at this point. Get a Galaxy Nexus from Google. While a modded G2x will pummel a Gnex into submission performance wise, the Gnex is a solid stable reliable phone with some decent power. I was sad with it when games looked and ran better on the G2x (I'm not kidding....it's like comparing a Camaro SS to a Honda Accord V6...a comparison more apt than you can imagine), but the overall stability and guaranteed updates on the GNex really make it shine. It also helps that the screen is beautiful and titanic on the GNex. Not that the G2x screen is bad (I actually think the G2x screen looks better than the one on my iPhone 4s in some cases).
Motorola said q3 for the atrix ICS I believe.
I would still rather have the G2X.
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You should also buy some books on proper English grammar. Sell, not sale.
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Was that really necessary? Did you not understand what OP meant?
Atrix is another dead platform Tegra 2. Support the chip makers that are more open - TI OMAP or Qualcomm Snapdragon or even Samsung Exynos.
Atrix 4G and Atrix 2 (Omap not Tegra) are both getting ICS in 3rd quarter of this year. More than likely the G2X is not getting ICS. I have an Atrix 2 I am using in Thailand and it is a great phone. No lags and performs great.
theking_13 said:
You should also buy some books on proper English grammar. Sell, not sale.
But, Atrix is on At&t, don't you have a T-Mobile plan currently? Just get the Galaxy Nexus for $400 instead.
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True, but come on its obvious English isn't his first language give the guy a break, i could understand him.