No more Build in Screen shot capture in 2.3? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Back in Froyo 2.2 there was a build in screen capture by holding the Back+Home buttons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830315
it doesn't seem to work on GB 2.3
does anyone know the new key combo?, ...or perhaps the service is not even there

AllGamer said:
Back in Froyo 2.2 there was a build in screen capture by holding the Back+Home buttons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830315
it doesn't seem to work on GB 2.3
does anyone know the new key combo?, ...or perhaps the service is not even there
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Nope, it's gone. I read that it was actually a security hole in 2.2, and not a feature added by Google; I don't know how accurate that was. Sad to see it go. Screen captures are one reason I root my phone. Shouldn't need to root for something basic like a screen capture.

Also that was only for the real Galaxy S phones. Not Nexus S or any other Android phone

that feature needs to be pushed to the forfront. very useful on my girls iphone. I get google doesn't want to just copy the iphone, but I hate it when something basic like this isn't implemented by Google. I hate hearing "whay? Your phone doesn't do that?" from my girl... Even though she has to hear it much more often from me

Eppidemic said:
that feature needs to be pushed to the forfront. very useful on my girls iphone. I get google doesn't want to just copy the iphone, but I hate it when something basic like this isn't implemented by Google. I hate hearing "whay? Your phone doesn't do that?" from my girl... Even though she has to hear it much more often from me
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People have been requesting it from Google for quite a while. There's an issue/feature request at http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6547 that it wouldn't hurt to go star, but it's been starred 385 times, and is almost a year old with no response from Google. Wouldn't hurt to star it anyways, but I'm not holding my breath...

Has Google given any reason why they don't allow screen captures?

onthecouchagain said:
Has Google given any reason why they don't allow screen captures?
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They most likely don't allow it so 3rd party apps can't take pictures of you while you are using the phone or it is just an oversight.

drocap2 works if you have root. I've always used that.

tominater12 said:
They most likely don't allow it so 3rd party apps can't take pictures of you while you are using the phone or it is just an oversight.
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The iPhone/iPod Touch has ability to take screenshots of the phone.
inb4 macfan
And the screen shot capture is the ability for your ANDROID screen.. not using the actual cameras (front / back)

anyone tried installing the screencaptureservice.apk from SGS onto our SNS ?

zephiK said:
The iPhone/iPod Touch has ability to take screenshots of the phone.
inb4 macfan
And the screen shot capture is the ability for your ANDROID screen.. not using the actual cameras (front / back)
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Yes, but the security argument is that an app could take secret snapshots of your screen and send them back to the developer. Maybe pics of your banking web page, whatever.
Not a concern I have, just playing devil's advocate. I think the ability to capture all or part of your screen should be a user option.

distortedloop said:
Yes, but the security argument is that an app could take secret snapshots of your screen and send them back to the developer. Maybe pics of your banking web page, whatever.
Not a concern I have, just playing devil's advocate. I think the ability to capture all or part of your screen should be a user option.
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So you're saying that iOS developers have the ability to do just that? If not, how'd it be dangerous then?

I was disappointed that ShootMe didn't work on my NS (non-rooted), as it DID work on my Epic - which was not rooted. Must have been a lucky glitch in the Epic or something. Seems to me, that an app could be created to capture screens on phones that are not rooted. Oh well, it is what it is...

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Improved Youtube with HQ

You may have seen my whining posts about the things that soured my captivate experience, and a big one was for some absurd reason (probably to eat up more data minutes) they made it show ****ty looking videos in the youtube player unless you navigate through a bunch of menus to make them HQ. See that way, you use more data.
Anyway, at least one thing is better because I put a youtube player from the Evo on there and it is a little bit better. Still not perfect because the stupid thing still shows low quality at first, but at least in this youtube there is a single HQ button on the player by the fast forward one touch and you've got HQ.
So I'll take that tiny victory, however shallow, over AT&T and Samsungs herculean efforts to f- up the nice chips, speaker, and screen on this device. Note I didn't say hardware because I'm not a fan of the case overall.
the player defaults to lower quality if youre not connected to wifi so you use less data and it loads quicker. this would be useful to people who have the 200 mb data plan. IIRC it was the same when i had an iphone 3g a couple years ago.
bwolmarans said:
You may have seen my whining posts about the things that soured my captivate experience, and a big one was for some absurd reason (probably to eat up more data minutes) they made it show ****ty looking videos in the youtube player unless you navigate through a bunch of menus to make them HQ. See that way, you use more data.
Anyway, at least one thing is better because I put a youtube player from the Evo on there and it is a little bit better. Still not perfect because the stupid thing still shows low quality at first, but at least in this youtube there is a single HQ button on the player by the fast forward one touch and you've got HQ.
So I'll take that tiny victory, however shallow, over AT&T and Samsungs herculean efforts to **** up this nice device.
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"a bunch of menus"? You tap the menu button, hit more, then HQ. It takes less than a second. I usually have it hit before the low-quality version is even buffered. Three taps is more than one, but it's not like they were asking you to do analytic geometry. Maybe I don't care because my fingers are fast, or because I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
As for their herculean efforts, if you don't use the AT&T/Samsung stuff, you don't notice any of it once you've rooted and enabled sideloading. At least I don't.
Mine defaults to high quality. Whenever I hit menu -> more the option in there always says "watch in low quality". I've checked several times because I was thinking the video looked pretty bad, but then I realized it was already in high quality mode.
My old HTC phone used to pick the quality based on available bandwidth. This type of functionality doesn't seem like it should be beyond google and samsung with their latest and greatest phone lol. Google owns youtube for god's sake.
this sounds like a troll post...
Didn't realize there were wars between android phones
autoxer said:
"a bunch of menus"? You tap the menu button, hit more, then HQ. It takes less than a second. I usually have it hit before the low-quality version is even buffered. Three taps is more than one, but it's not like they were asking you to do analytic geometry. Maybe I don't care because my fingers are fast, or because I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
As for their herculean efforts, if you don't use the AT&T/Samsung stuff, you don't notice any of it once you've rooted and enabled sideloading. At least I don't.
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What does sideloading do and how do I enable it. I too have an unlimited plan so I just want the best performance. I'm new to Android phones. I use to be a Nokia fan but got tired of waiting for the N8 or something nice from Nokia.
Not to Hi-jack this post but I'm open to any suggestions to make my Captivate a better user experience. So far I'm loving it !!
Qmotion said:
What does sideloading do and how do I enable it. I too have an unlimited plan so I just want the best performance. I'm new to Android phones. I use to be a Nokia fan but got tired of waiting for the N8 or something nice from Nokia.
Not to Hi-jack this post but I'm open to any suggestions to make my Captivate a better user experience. So far I'm loving it !!
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There are, very nearly literally, a million threads on sideloading here. It means the ability to load apps not found in the Market--a feature AT&T disabled by default, without the ability to switch it in settings. Search for it, and you'll find how to enable it. Once it's enabled, you have the only real handicap AT&T put on the phone out of the way.
A few seconds
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That's enough time to ruin the video experience.
autoxer said:
As for their herculean efforts, if you don't use the AT&T/Samsung stuff, you don't notice any of it once you've rooted and enabled sideloading. At least I don't.
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I still notice the dialer. Isn't that still Samsung? It sucks compared to the Aria dialer.
You'd need to have actually used a sense device for a while to know what I mean, it's all about the cool predictive algorithm htc used, whereas the dialer on the captivate is no better than on my old Tilt (although a little faster, thank goodness, and I do appreciate the huge buttons)
Don't get me wrong, there are 5 good things about the captivate: The screen, the screen, the screen, the screen, and the speaker. And those 5 are enough to keep me interested.
autoxer said:
There are, very nearly literally, a million threads on sideloading here. It means the ability to load apps not found in the Market--a feature AT&T disabled by default, without the ability to switch it in settings. Search for it, and you'll find how to enable it. Once it's enabled, you have the only real handicap AT&T put on the phone out of the way.
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I can't find these threads regarding sideloading. Can anyone provide a link?
is there a way to trick youtube into thinking your on wifi so that it defaults to HQ.
I know on iphones theres "3g unrestrictor" is there something like that for android?
bowbei said:
I can't find these threads regarding sideloading. Can anyone provide a link?
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Dude, it's a sticky in the development forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738376
5 different ways to sideload.
Also, in case you didn't even bother looking in the correct forum, there is a sticky in this forum right above this topic about how to sideload:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735482
Next time search around before posting.

[Q] Camera doesn't work while on phone call?

I am currently running leaked version of 2.2 for my Captivate and the stock android camera app doesn't seem to work while on a voice call. I also encountered the same problem when I was running stock firmware out of the box. When I open the stock android camera during a voice call the app launched with a pop up message stating: Warning unable to start camera during call. Is this some restriction put in place from the carrier or the camera application?
i have had the same exact problem as you... there has litterly been thousands of times recently where i am talking to somebody on the phone, and then i have the sudden urge to take a picture, but havent been able too... hopefully somebody gets right on this pronto!
EDIT: okay ill admit, that was a crapload of sarcasm there... but who is in that big of a hurry to take a picture?
yeah that through me off too when I got the phone, about the only thing the phone won't do during a call. but it was always that way.
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It is not about being in a hurry to take a picture it is about freedom to do what you want when you want with the device you purchased.
works fine on any other android device. seems like a carrier or manufacturer limitation to me.
download vignette, or most likely any camera app other than the stock captivate app, works.. now you can drive while talking on the phone and taking pictures all at the same time
But you cannot record in 720p. And the interface doesn't match the quality of the stock app.
So that makes it seem like its absolutely the camera app itself. Why would this limit be placed? For driving like i have a leg suggested? Even if that was the intentent, who placed it? Samsung? AT&T? Does this same problem happen when using a non Captivate, Samsung created firmware?
i have a leg said:
i have had the same exact problem as you... there has litterly been thousands of times recently where i am talking to somebody on the phone, and then i have the sudden urge to take a picture, but havent been able too... hopefully somebody gets right on this pronto!
EDIT: okay ill admit, that was a crapload of sarcasm there... but who is in that big of a hurry to take a picture?
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what you never had a conversation with someone and saw something that was interesting and wanted to send them a text/email with a picture while still on the phone? I honestly have tried it for that reason and was disappointed. I mean you can check texts and emails while talking as well as send them and surf the web and get directions, all things that I do whole on the phone. so why not take pictures to attach to those messages?
I hope a workaround or good third party app becomes available.
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tim1987 said:
So that makes it seem like its absolutely the camera app itself. Why would this limit be placed? For driving like i have a leg suggested? Even if that was the intentent, who placed it? Samsung? AT&T? Does this same problem happen when using a non Captivate, Samsung created firmware?
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I'm almost positive it's a Samsung thing. This has really bugged me for a while too, I was so used to taking pictures on my iPhone 3G anytime. My friend with a Samsung feature phone couldn't take pictures with low battery while my iPhone would click away until it was dead.
Once I got my Captivate and tried taking a picture with low battery, not like the battery life is great to begin with, and I wasn't allowed. Samsung shouldn't be able to decide when we can take pictures. I really hope that at some point we can take pictures and this device will be unlocked from Samsung's grips that much more.

[Q] How to Password Protect Android Shutdown?

Hi, I was wondering if there was any way to password protect shutting off an android phone. For example, when holding down the power button and clicking "shut down" on the popup menu, I want to have to enter a pin in order to shut off the phone. I have a Motorola Droid. I'm rooted and running CyanogenMod 7 (if it matters). Thanks!!
need the same
Hi there, have you found a way? I´m also looking for this feature..
icedusa said:
Hi there, have you found a way? I´m also looking for this feature..
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Am I missing something? What would stop someone from pulling the battery?
lownox said:
Am I missing something? What would stop someone from pulling the battery?
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lol
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lownox said:
Am I missing something? What would stop someone from pulling the battery?
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You have found the one thing Apple trumps Android with! My entire paradigm has just collapsed around my fragile psyche!!
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I guess I wasn't clear enough. I just used shut down as an example, which would be flawed by a simple battery removal. What I'm actually going for, is to make the popup menu (the one with shut down, airplane mode, silent) not pop up unless the phone is unlocked. I don't want some random person to be able to pick up my phone and put it in airplane mode or silent mode. I know that it is possible, because there is actually a toggle for it in the settings of the miui rom.
Bump bump bump!!!!
Apple trumps Android???? HaHaHa
Never has, and with regard to this thread and the desire for a password protected power button," now (2012) especially.
***HTC EVO 4G LTE***
Can't remove battery... and possibly others?
I believe this app would have to restrict access to the menu that pops up to shut down, as well as override the ten second reboot feature of the EVO LTE.
Needless to say, I have searched a little first for it in the EVO LTE forum among others, but there seems to be a reason to revive this thread now!
Hope I'm not acting like a NOOB as described in the . . *ahem* . . . "Welcome" video...
If anyone read this thread and also needs/needed an answer, please bump it and/or included a link to the thread or page or anything that has a definitive answer.... I know I'm not the only one who would greatly appreciate the help!
:good:? O.K....
The Nexus 4 doesn't have a removable battery and such a feature would be great for a stolen phone.. The only way to shut it off would be to adb into it.
Im also looking for this feature to protect my Nexus 4 if atole.
Hmm...
mozXegX said:
Im also looking for this feature to protect my Nexus 4 if atole.
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I know I started this thread a WHILE ago...but especially since a lot of the newer phones have non-removable batteries, this seems like a must. What about some way to disable the popup that appears when longpressing the power button (with airplane mode and stuff on it) from the lockscreen. So, you would only be able to access this after unlocking the phone. This is actually been baked into the MIUI Rom, and I'm wondering why others haven't adopted it. Does anyone know if this feature could be ported? It doesn't seem like it would be that hard.
AGREE 110%
This is a HUGE flaw in the smartphone world. I'm glad my Nexus 4 has no removable battery and I feel all phones from now on should follow. Why make it easier for the thieves? I've tried to find an app or something out their with no luck. I messaged Lookout Mobile Security about this BIG issue and hopefully you guys can request it as well here https://www.lookout.com/help. Just click on Send a Request and then just sign in. Hopefully they can implement this vital feature in their security app. If theirs any smart people out their who can make this feature on their own I applaud you. Your phone will let you know where its at even if its off using Lookout online, but without out the phone screaming (a feature within Lookout that makes your phone emit a really loud sound) it's like looking for a needle in a hay stack. Either click on the link and let them know you want this feature or create one yourself. It just makes security apps on ANY phone totally useless without this feature.
Completely agree. I submitted a feature request as well. Let me know if you hear anything
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Completely agree. I submitted a feature request as well. Let me know if you hear anything
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Will do.
Been all over the web looking for an app that allows this... I have an Atrix Hd and it has a non removable battery. This is an absolute must.
marcelarr said:
Been all over the web looking for an app that allows this... I have an Atrix Hd and it has a non removable battery. This is an absolute must.
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+1
+1. It will be very useful to have this feature along with some anti-theft programs like Cerberus, Avast etc.,:good:
+1 This is a must, should be in the OS features
Not found yet
I just though about the same thing yesterday & to my surprise there is no such app. This should've been the most easiest thing to make I believe, just a pin to switch off.
Why hasn't no one thought about this??

Questions from a Jailbroken iPhone user before switching to HOX

Hello XDA denizens,
I would like to migrate from jailbroken iOS because I am sick of the cat & mouse game with Apple. I would like to know whether I can do the following specifically on the HOX without having to void my warranty:
Read (entire) emails without unlocking my phone, see my calendar appointments without unlocking my phone, and see a list of all missed calls and SMS without unlocking my phone. I have heard two names mentioned within this context: WidgetLocker and Executive Assistant. Can any of you tell me if these work on the HOX and whether they allow me to do the above.
Turn on my flashlight with any multitouch gesture that I wish. Multitask with any gesture that I wish (e.g. two-fingered swipe up from the bottom of the screen to bring up a list of running apps).
See a list of toggles in the drop-down notification screen that allow me to toggle wifi/autolock/cellular data/brightness without having to leave the app that I am currently running.
Final question: does rooting void the warranty on this phone?
Thank you!
pausaniasx said:
Hello XDA denizens,
I would like to migrate from jailbroken iOS because I am sick of the cat & mouse game with Apple. I would like to know whether I can do the following specifically on the HOX without having to void my warranty:
Read (entire) emails without unlocking my phone, see my calendar appointments without unlocking my phone, and see a list of all missed calls and SMS without unlocking my phone. I have heard two names mentioned within this context: WidgetLocker and Executive Assistant. Can any of you tell me if these work on the HOX and whether they allow me to do the above.
Turn on my flashlight with any multitouch gesture that I wish. Multitask with any gesture that I wish (e.g. two-fingered swipe up from the bottom of the screen to bring up a list of running apps).
See a list of toggles in the drop-down notification screen that allow me to toggle wifi/autolock/cellular data/brightness without having to leave the app that I am currently running.
Final question: does rooting void the warranty on this phone?
Thank you!
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1) There SHOULD be apps available for that. Maybe not though as being able to do all that without unlocking your phone is a security issue. There is a reason that info is hidden while the phone is locked.
2) Nope.
3) Only if you unlock your bootloader (most likely voiding warranty) and install a custom rom.
Rooting does not void warranty as it can be undone. Unlocking the bootloader however does.
That is too bad. I can do all those things on the iPhone without voiding the warranty (jailbreaking can be undone).
Thanks very much, though!
pausaniasx said:
That is too bad. I can do all those things on the iPhone without voiding the warranty (jailbreaking can be undone).
Thanks very much, though!
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This puts toggles in the notifcation bar, and it doesnt require root, or boot loader unlock. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
and you use widget locker, then put a email widget on it.
Hey, that's great! Thanks for the link.
Does anyone know if the widget locker has a widget that lets me read the entire email (not just preview the first line)?
There's nothing in my emails that needs to be kept secret; hence I've always enjoyed the ability to read (NOT write, of course) emails without unlocking, since I get so many emails.
pausaniasx said:
That is too bad. I can do all those things on the iPhone without voiding the warranty (jailbreaking can be undone).
Thanks very much, though!
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You asked if rooting would void your warranty, he said no. So...? Unless you also want to unlock the boot loader and go into the fun stuff.
pausaniasx said:
Hey, that's great! Thanks for the link.
Does anyone know if the widget locker has a widget that lets me read the entire email (not just preview the first line)?
There's nothing in my emails that needs to be kept secret; hence I've always enjoyed the ability to read (NOT write, of course) emails without unlocking, since I get so many emails.
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Widget locker allows you to place any widget on your lockscreen so all you have to do is find a widget from the play store that has this ability and place on your lockscreen
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All of these things are fairly simple to do, for sure for the flashlight I would use go launcher or similar to input multi touch swipe or gesture or however you want it to trigger. You can do anything without unlocking by turning off lock with no lock of it annoys you, or put widgets on your lockscreen. Try different ones if you aren't satisfied with the function of the stock ones. Android will let you do anything its just a matter of figuring out how if it's difficult.
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I couldn't find a widget that lets you read full emails without launching the gmail app, which would unlock the screen.
I do not want to unset the pin, since that's removing a whole other level of security.
All I want to do is read full emails without unlocking the screen. What I keep on hearing is that it should be doable, but no one can point to anything specific.
Also a noob coming from iOS. Now that the HOX price has dropped to $100, am thinking about this phone while comparing it to the GS3 and Atrx HD. What I don't like about Sense is the multi-tasking and it seems the hardware manufacturing is inconsistent too. I plan to get a phone direct from ATT since they are bending over backwards to price match. I can actually get 50% off the on contract price with no activation fee and a credit for the CA sales tax. So this means I can get a GS3 for $100 or either the HOX or AHD for $50. I don't want to waste an upgrade so I want to make the best choice.
Can anyone here give a non-biased opinion about which phone is the most solid performer with the least issues? I had actually written off the HOX due to the many issues I was seeing over in the AC forums, though the GS3 has plenty also. Thanks.
Hey greetings from SF. How are you getting that 50% off?
I've had the HOX and the sgs3. If you don't need an SD card slot, the HOX is a better choice. Especially at 99 bucks. For 50 bucks you're crazy not to get one. I had big problems with wifi on the sgs3 and I really missed the excellent display on the HOX.
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Also a noob coming from iOS. Now that the HOX price has dropped to $100, am thinking about this phone while comparing it to the GS3 and Atrx HD. What I don't like about Sense is the multi-tasking and it seems the hardware manufacturing is inconsistent too. I plan to get a phone direct from ATT since they are bending over backwards to price match. I can actually get 50% off the on contract price with no activation fee and a credit for the CA sales tax. So this means I can get a GS3 for $100 or either the HOX or AHD for $50. I don't want to waste an upgrade so I want to make the best choice.
Can anyone here give a non-biased opinion about which phone is the most solid performer with the least issues? I had actually written off the HOX due to the many issues I was seeing over in the AC forums, though the GS3 has plenty also. Thanks.
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I'll try to be non-biased. I'd say forget the AHD because the HOX and GSIII are better performers. Even though they all have the same processor it's reported the the Atrix runs slower than the other two.
I don't think the hardware is inconsistent with the HOX. I mean, we had some issues the first month or two, but all of that is out of the way for the most part.
The HOX will have a better screen and better build quality (This was biased) and the GSIII has that extra gig of ram and tons of dev support (we may have less, but we have amazing devs working on the HOX)
So... No one knows which widget or app I should use to read full emails on the lock screen?
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So... No one knows which widget or app I should use to read full emails on the lock screen?
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I looked and I actually don't think there is a widget that shows a complete email found a few that showed the first part but not the whole thing
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E.Cadro said:
I looked and I actually don't think there is a widget that shows a complete email found a few that showed the first part but not the whole thing
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How about executive assistant? Does that one work on the One X?
pausaniasx said:
So... No one knows which widget or app I should use to read full emails on the lock screen?
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https://market.android.com/details?id=org.koxx.pure_messenger&hl=en might fit your needs. It shows a couple lines of each email. But if you click on the email, it views the whole email right in widget, vs opening email app, like most widgets do. You could put that widget on widgetlocker and should do what you want.
EDIT: Just installed it, and put on widget locker, works great. Can read little bit of email (SMS, facebook etc to if wanted) then click on the message, and a mostly full screen pop up comes up, and lets you read whole message, but your still at lockscreen When you install the pure messenger widget app, there are multiple widgets to choice from, i recommend one of the "scrollable" ones. 4x2 fits nicely in middle of widget locker.
pausaniasx said:
That is too bad. I can do all those things on the iPhone without voiding the warranty (jailbreaking can be undone).
Thanks very much, though!
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Lol rooting can be undone too. Trust me hox is better than Iphone. I used to own an I phone and they're a daycare center compared to android
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You'll get a kick out of this. I went into the AT&T store and played with the HOX for half an hour. But then it was like the ghost of Steve Jobs grabbed my collar and escorted me out of the store. I just couldn't make the switch. If you're interested in hearing my pros and cons:
Rest of family is on iOS with a high barrier to switching. The real killer app is iMessage; free text messages between iPhones with fallback to native SMS in case of data failure.
Launching Google+ caused the whole HOX to hang and I couldn't make Google+ load again until I rebooted the thing... does not bode well for stability.
(minor) Music skipping while taking photos.
Will likely waste a ton of time re-learning how to do everything and modding the device.
As far as my tweaking needs are concerned, I feel that Jailbroken iOS is on par with Android.
The reasons why I'll likely regret not switching:
Jailbreakability: more likely than not I'll be waiting 4+ months for the iPhone 5 jailbreak. These vulnerabilities are tough to find.
Google maps offline: this is an amazing feature and I just hope that the iOS 6 maps will have some kind of data-saving caching built in.
Transit directions: it looks like Apple is about to screw us over on this one. They are being replaced with "routing apps," whatever that is.
Overall this was a really tough choice and I totally see now why there are these flame wars going on online on the iOS vs. Android thing... you get your family set up with one or the other and then you're vested and there is an incredible inertia to stay on the platform you started with. The choice would be much simpler if it were just me.

is no one concern about the edge sense failure in the announcement?

I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
Meh, to say that I've never had stuff like that happen on any phone I've owned would be a huge understatement.
Had a unit in hand to test it one week ahead of the official announcement. On my test unit the Edge Sense worked really good, after getting accustomed after the first 30 Minutes and configuring it to my pressure sensitivity in settings.
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Jeah some other people already tried Edge Sense and said something similar like @5m4r7ph0n36uru said. Its working okay or good - better then many expected. But for me its just a nice to have. Lets see how much they can improve this feature with future Software updates. Maybe its just a feature that ends up being a public prototype which would also be okay. If this feature is any good they will probably improve the hardware behind it in a future device.
I mean its the same with the fingerprint scanners, the first and even second version in the iPhone was quite bad in my opinion. The one in the 6s is good, but the ones before where too slow and the failure rate was too high (for me).
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I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
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I wouldn't read too much into it - could be nerves, could be the phone wasn't set up properly for him, old software, etc.
Microsoft launched a version of windows (I think it might have been Win98) and during the launch they encountered the Blue Screen Of Death... it didn't seem to have much impact on their future!
I'm not too worried. If it doesn't work well I will just disable it. The phone is still nice.
Entrail said:
Jeah some other people already tried Edge Sense and said something similar like @5m4r7ph0n36uru said. Its working okay or good - better then many expected. But for me its just a nice to have. Lets see how much they can improve this feature with future Software updates. Maybe its just a feature that ends up being a public prototype which would also be okay. If this feature is any good they will probably improve the hardware behind it in a future device.
I mean its the same with the fingerprint scanners, the first and even second version in the iPhone was quite bad in my opinion. The one in the 6s is good, but the ones before where too slow and the failure rate was too high (for me).
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They will update it. As HTC told in the same briefing, they are already planing to implement Double-Tab as a possibility to take further actions with Edge Sense, though they couldn't tell the date at this time but only that it is on the list. So I guess they are definitely planing to implement more gestures by such a step making short press, long press and double press available. With two different force settings, this would give us six gestures in total to configure for separate actions.
Something further is App based actions that'll be implemented to change the action resulting from a short press depending on the App you're using.
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I saw reviews. it works pretty well.
5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
They will update it. As HTC told in the same briefing, they are already planing to implement Double-Tab as a possibility to take further actions with Edge Sense, though they couldn't tell the date at this time but only that it is on the list. So I guess they are definitely planing to implement more gestures by such a step making short press, long press and double press available. With two different force settings, this would give us six gestures in total to configure for separate actions.
Something further is App based actions that'll be implemented to change the action resulting from a short press depending on the App you're using.
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I hope so and i am sure they will but all I'm saying is that the hardware will be limited like i said with the fingerprint or another example the pressure sensitivity from the surface pen. In the first iterations it only had 256 different steps now they have around 2000. (not sure about the exact numbers here )
My hope is not too big about this squeeze feature in the first iteration but i am curious and will give it a try.
liorderei said:
I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
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I thought the same Totally agreed with you... But I'm still buying the phone.. I hope after 1-2 updates it will work better.
I am lucky I wasn't in his shoes. Very awkward indeed. His hands were shaking.
I don't think it will damage sales. And in a live event anything can happen.
I don't think it even had to do with edge sense TBH... I think it had to do with the assistant apps themselves and probably the internet connection within the venue.
Mine works well do far. I just need to remember about it. I've left it starting the camera and it's good.
Honestly, I was hoping the edge sense would have worked just as the early videos showed of a couple walking the street and navigating the app drawer with the edge. Maybe version 2. But that was sick!
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mbaseball3 said:
Honestly, I was hoping the edge sense would have worked just as the early videos showed of a couple walking the street and navigating the app drawer with the edge. Maybe version 2. But that was sick!
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Can't say I've every been walking the street and needed to navigate the app draw. I have shortcuts for everything already. Actually only time I navigate the app draw is when I'm adding a shortcut lol. But I see what you saying. Maybe if they added volume up down or scrolling, but don't think that's how it works.
well... it would probably have worked better if she took them off..

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