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It seems HTC has some competition!

well i wouldn't have believed it if i hadn't read myself but it seems that HTChas some competition and guess who it is........Nokia. yeah Nokia but here's thing what they have is really good this time its called "The Morph". absolutely futuristic.
http://yovia.com/blogs/gizmo/2010/03/09/nokia-is-definitely-thinking-of-the-future/

I'll believe it more if they showed the real thing instead of a drawing. And I'm guessing a technology like that would cost the same as a car. But I could be dead wrong.

Doesn't look like any competition to me...they have years to go.

That morph video has at least 4 years floating around
Nothing that we really see soon so HTC still the best for me, at least for now

i had someone argue with me the other day that samsung made better phones than HTC. i laughed....hard!!!! i hate samsung phones. they make good tv's though.

leemoss84 said:
i had someone argue with me the other day that samsung made better phones than HTC. i laughed....hard!!!! i hate samsung phones. they make good tv's though.
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you obviously never used the original Omnia then. A very solid, reliable bit of kit and it was easily better than any HTC phone at the time for my purposes. Sadly, the Omnia 2 has issues that prevented me buying it and instead I bought a HD2.

that morph video is ard for years. check youtube, u see along of posting in past years
its only a concept. there are others also from other brandings
htc is themselve are not concentrating on winmo device. android are here instead, samsung did a wonderful customization for winmo also and have move on to android too. soon, their own os beda will be out

Monty Burns said:
you obviously never used the original Omnia then. A very solid, reliable bit of kit and it was easily better than any HTC phone at the time for my purposes. Sadly, the Omnia 2 has issues that prevented me buying it and instead I bought a HD2.
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yes, i have used an omnia b4 and didnt like it at all. i like the omnia 2 way better than the first gen omnia though. their dumb phones especially suck, everyone ive owned or my friends owned were just a hot steaming pile of $#!t

kemberdog said:
absolutely futuristic.
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That's all it is a concept that may come in many years...? I imagine if we got to see concepts for plans in x amount of years from HTC we would drop our tongues even more

leemoss84 said:
i had someone argue with me the other day that samsung made better phones than HTC. i laughed....hard!!!! i hate samsung phones. they make good tv's though.
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Well, if you ask me, they did make better phones than HTC. Up until the announcement of the HD2; Samsung's phones just utterly bested HTC's offerings. Really, at a time when HTC was still rocking the Touch HD as the best phone in their arsenal, Samsung released the Omnia HD; the Omnia HD is a phone so badass that it still stands as one of the best phones today (it was released in May 2009).
Off the top of my head, there are only two phones I know of that I would say matches it (N900 and Droid), and there is only one phone that I can definitively say bests it: The HD2.

8525Smart said:
Well, if you ask me, they did make better phones than HTC. Up until the announcement of the HD2; Samsung's phones just utterly bested HTC's offerings. Really, at a time when HTC was still rocking the Touch HD as the best phone in their arsenal, Samsung released the Omnia HD; the Omnia HD is a phone so badass that it still stands as one of the best phones today (it was released in May 2009).
Off the top of my head, there are only two phones I know of that I would say matches it (N900 and Droid), and there is only one phone that I can definitively say bests it: The HD2.
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if the omnias are so good then why do you have a fuze? imo samsung makes low qaulity phones except for the omnia 2 which i kinda like.

im guessing because it has a keyboard and the omnia 1 doesn't.

leemoss84 said:
if the omnias are so good then why do you have a fuze? imo samsung makes low qaulity phones except for the omnia 2 which i kinda like.
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Monty Burns said:
im guessing because it has a keyboard and the omnia 1 doesn't.
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A keyboard is one of the reasons. Aside from that, the original i900 really isn't that much better than the Fuze. The i900 had a larger screen, better camera, and a more powerful CPU (with better drivers support), but it had less RAM, lower resolution, and lower battery life. The lack of a keyboard also made it a bit hard to swallow.
If nothing else, one of the primary reasons I own a Fuze today was because I managed to get it for cheap (much cheaper than it cost at the time anyway).
To get to the point, design-wise, the superiority of the two companies is debatable (personally, I actually like HTC's design better), but when it comes to specs, Samsung has pretty much been obliterating HTC for a good while. I'm not referring to the Omnia line either as Samsung put great specs in many of their phones. It is only recently that HTC managed to surpass Samsung at all and, mind you, the S8500 Wave (with its own 1Ghz Cortex, super AMOLED WVGA screen, and many other nice features) is going to be closing whatever gaps HTC managed to create in about a month.

Need a reason to keep HD2.

So I am brand new to the whole smart phone market. My old phone took a poo and decided to not work so I figured it was a great time to upgrade and join the new era of smart phones.
I knew nothing about smart phones but knew Ihad to go with t-mobile so I could be undercontract with my gf.
HD2 was all over the the tv/internet so I thought it was the new badass phone so I figured I would just got for it.
When I went to the t-mobile stand they didnt have any because they were selling so fast. I looked at their options and got the mytouch 3g. Brought the phone home and had a blast with the android market, it was so easy to use. Couple days later I went back to buy a case for the mytouch 3g but when I got to the stand they said they just got 6 HD2s in and I could trade in for it. Since it was the phone I wanted I did it.
Took my new HD2 hope and started to mess with it, confused as heck, way different with windows mobile. The phone was fast looked amazing but was not as fun.
Now Im torn what to do.
I guess what Im really trying to do is get input from people who know the market and how these phones will go. Will the HD2 be able to compete with the android market at all? A buddy said Microsoft trys to hard with Windows Mobile to compete but they always fall behind when it comes to phones. Or will the Android market just stay way ahead of the curve?
Thats my rant, I just dont want to regret trading in my HD2 because its still so new on the market.

just got rid of mine...ive dealt with windows mobile too much...i loved the phone but without android on it i feel its not worth it...ive got android on my xperia x1 and love it...just wish i had the big screen like the hd2...i personally suggest you get the nexus one...its an overall better phone and has a fairly big screen along with android....your best bet for now atleast

The HD2 is really nice and fast, but honestly, android is still sort of BETA still. You know what i'm saying? They haven't established completely like Apple. evenutally , Android market will be filled with neat stuff.
I think android is way better than windows mobile.
maybe not apple by games, but eventualy and hopefully, android gets better games and graphics.
And your right, maybe HD2 isn't the "right" time to get it now because it's still new. The android market is still damn new too!
Thanks to Google's unrestricted (like Apple) market, we will eventually take over

I agree I do like the Nexus one from what I have researched but the problem is its $530. Even though Im a new t-mobile customer I still have to get Googles t-mobile 1 person plan for the reduced rate when Im on a family plan atm.

if you are beyond the point where you can return your phone, I would be interested in getting it off your hands. I love the HD2. My wife has it and it is beyond fast. Flashed a custom rom on it and even the splash screen is cool.

numba1guju said:
the nexus one...its an overall better phone
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No.
"The message I have entered is too short. Please lengthen my message to at least 10 characters."

the only reason i using HD2 cus of the huge 4.3" screen!, it so comfortable for the eyes!
i hate the freaking capacitive screen! sometime you need to zoom in the texts AS BIG as your finger for it to responds!

friend'scatdied said:
No
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Maybe for U, but for many the N1 is state of the art & much better!

galaxys said:
Maybe for U, but for many the N1 is state of the art & much better!
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No.
Especially to the state-of-the-art part. The HD2 has a better screen than the Nexus One. The HD2 has more hardware RAM than the Nexus One.
The choice is simply Android OS on the Nexus One vs. WinMo on the HD2. The Nexus One's only hardware advantage is the noise-cancellation via the auxiliary microphone, and the trackball that not many actually use. Screen and hardware RAM are probably a bigger deal though.
The EVO 4G is probably the only Android phone from HTC worth getting right now since it doesn't have the god-awful Pentile AMOLED display they use in the Nexus One, Incredible, and Desire.

friend'scatdied said:
No.
Especially to the state-of-the-art part. The HD2 has a better screen than the Nexus One. The HD2 has more hardware RAM than the Nexus One.
The choice is simply Android OS on the Nexus One vs. WinMo on the HD2. The Nexus One's only hardware advantage is the noise-cancellation via the auxiliary microphone, and the trackball that not many actually use. Screen and hardware RAM are probably a bigger deal though.
The EVO 4G is probably the only Android phone from HTC worth getting right now since it doesn't have the god-awful Pentile AMOLED display they use in the Nexus One, Incredible, and Desire.
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someone sounds bitter.
the screen is a matter of opinion, and it sounds like you've been reading too many tech blogs.
i've compared them both, and i prefer the screen on the Nexus, and so has everyone else that has compared their screen to the AMOLED display on the Nexus. (providing you keep it out of the sunlight)
both the Nexus and HD2 have 512MB of ram(yes, i'm aware the US HD2 has slightly more), and Android is far better with memory management then WM is anyway, so that's a non issue.
and i used my trackball all the time. and who can complain about an extra hardware feature? just dont use it if you don't want it. a legitimate complaint would be the capacitive buttons. those are a PITA until you get used to them.
to the OP, buy the phone you want. but if you liked the mytouch you will LOVE the Nexus. there is absolutely no comparison between the two.

crazy talk said:
the screen is a matter of opinion, and it sounds like you've been reading too many tech blogs.
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screen size does matter!
i used sony x1 with 3" screen, then Acer neotouch with 3.8 screen, now hd2 with huge 4.3" screen! you can see the different! bigger is better! just try to upgrade your pc monitor to bigger size, and you will see alot more comfortable to the eyes!

crazy talk said:
someone sounds bitter.
the screen is a matter of opinion, and it sounds like you've been reading too many tech blogs.
i've compared them both, and i prefer the screen on the Nexus, and so has everyone else that has compared their screen to the AMOLED display on the Nexus. (providing you keep it out of the sunlight)
both the Nexus and HD2 have 512MB of ram(yes, i'm aware the US HD2 has slightly more), and Android is far better with memory management then WM is anyway, so that's a non issue.
and i used my trackball all the time. and who can complain about an extra hardware feature? just dont use it if you don't want it. a legitimate complaint would be the capacitive buttons. those are a PITA until you get used to them.
to the OP, buy the phone you want. but if you liked the mytouch you will LOVE the Nexus. there is absolutely no comparison between the two.
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All HD2s have 576MB of RAM, not 512MB. The only exception is the Prototype HTC HD2s (Pro.Three) which have 384MB of RAM or thereabouts.
The Nexus One's screen is inferior not only in terms of size but also in terms of color accuracy, sunlight legibility (as you mentioned), and effective resolution. It possesses higher contrast and is comparable in terms of viewing angles, battery life, and power consumption. Yes, I have also seen both devices -- I owned the Nexus One previously.
Also forgot to mention the Nexus One has a bigger battery, but I'm not sure you'd be able to tell with what I've seen.
Don't get me wrong, the Nexus One is a great device. But there is no excuse for arguing the fallacy that the Nexus One is superior hardware to the HD2 -- this is simply not the case. That is a matter of software alone.

[Q] Help! HTC HD7 or Dell Venue Pro??

Ok so I'm fed up with the garbage that us Canadians have in terms of WP7 launch devices. I hate that every year we end up with the crap phones while T-Mobile and others get all the great ones.
So I'm considering ending my 10 yr run with Telus and reducing my monthly bill in half by trying out either Mobilicity or Wind Mobile. At the same time I have the additional benefits of choosing from any of T-Mobile's phones for use here.
So that leaves me to choose now between the HTC HD7 and the Dell Venue Pro. I am completely up to date on the rumours, bugs and issues each device has. I just need to know for all of you which device you think I should choose (even if it means waiting until Jan).
Btw I am a previous owner of the HD2 and loved it aside from the glitchy OS. And currently using an iPhone 4 as my temp phone (barf).

I was waiting for the DVP but got an HD7 because it was available and I think support would be better with a physical store to perform exchanges. The DVP has obvious advantages like the scratch resistant glass, keyboard and AMOLED screen but even with the shortcomings of the HD7 like battery life, pink tint on the camera (which I can remove using Windows Live Photo Gallery) and LCD screen I am enjoying the OS immensely. Even the recent antenna issue I can cope with and I have ordered a silicone case.
The big unknown is if Dell can deliver a device that works well enough that it would only need a few software updates to fix and until they release it no one can tell. But for those who have had both the DVP seems to be the preferred choice so if you can wait it may be the one for you. Follow the #dellvenuepro tag on twitter to get the latest news and user impressions, best source of info on the DVP vs HD7.

I would say Dell Venue Pro, despite all the current launch problems.
The Dell has a great Amoled screen + Qwerty keyboard.
EDIT: I thought the Dell Venu Pro had flash NAND storage. Apparently not.

The Dell's memory is provided completely by SD card, there is no NAND memory onboard. And while the HD7 camera certainly isn't the best available it beats the Dell in irts current form hands down.

efjay said:
The Dell's memory is provided completely by SD card, there is no NAND memory onboard. And while the HD7 camera certainly isn't the best available it beats the Dell in irts current form hands down.
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Oh really. Sorry then. I was sure it had
I will edit my previous post.

T-Mobile doesn't have the Dell Venue Pro, they only have the HD7, but I find the HD7 to be the choice phone even if the Dell were available. The HD7 is basically a beautified HD2 with it s black-chrome surround, silver mesh inserts at top and bottom that also conduct sound from the rear speaker. The kickstand is superior to the one on the HTC Evo and the overall build quality of the HD7 is superb. Granted, I had 3 previous HD7s before the one I now have. The first three were faulty and now I have one that is 99.99% perfect. The .01% shortfall is due to a tiny dent or deformity along the rear edge of the chrome surround. If it wasn't for that, this would be a perfect phone.
However, even with the 3 faulty HD7s prior to this one, I still chose to have one because of the gorgeousness and style as well as the excellent hardware specs. If the Dell's AMOLED is anything like other AMOLEDs, I wouldn't have chosen it because of the lack of small text detail. AMOLED is great for movies and pictures but poor for text detail. I saw a Samsung Focus at a local AT&T and was stricken by how much less attractive the main page tiles were in comparison to the other two offerings which used regular LCD tech. The tiles of the AMOLED seemd to have color bleed or a lack of sharpness to the pixels.
If you are mainly into movies and pictures on the device, the Dell might be more pleasing for you with its AMOLED. If you are more into an information device, where text definition is important, the HD7 would be the better choice. I love the style of the Dell, but I love the style of the HD7 more.

I say neither.

Dell Venue Pro
I've been using the HD7 for a bit over a week now and it's really a well built device.
I should warn though that it has a major flaw - the battery. My phone was fully charged this about 7am this morning, no calls and just 10mins of internet browsing. Battery died at 6pm. I'll be swapping it for the Venue Pro when that comes out.
I should warn that I have no idea how the DVP battery will hold up, but as a starter, the smaller screen will help.

imoses44 said:
I've been using the HD7 for a bit over a week now and it's really a well built device.
I should warn though that it has a major flaw - the battery. My phone was fully charged this about 7am this morning, no calls and just 10mins of internet browsing. Battery died at 6pm. I'll be swapping it for the Venue Pro when that comes out.
I should warn that I have no idea how the DVP battery will hold up, but as a starter, the smaller screen will help.
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To conserve battery life, turn off the GPS. I do this and only use GPS when it's needed...like in the car, where I have it plugged into power. Major battery saver.

imoses44 said:
I've been using the HD7 for a bit over a week now and it's really a well built device.
I should warn though that it has a major flaw - the battery. My phone was fully charged this about 7am this morning, no calls and just 10mins of internet browsing. Battery died at 6pm. I'll be swapping it for the Venue Pro when that comes out.
I should warn that I have no idea how the DVP battery will hold up, but as a starter, the smaller screen will help.
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how are you going to swap it? By the time the dell is available, you will be past t-mobile's 2week return window....
I wanted the dell VP until it had all the launch problems. I think HTC is a better mobile phone manufacturer.

Great feedback everyone..
Seems like the poll is leaning towards the DVP but comments seem to lean towards the HD7..
I used to own the HD2 so I remember all too well the battery issues. But I was the guy with the extra charger on my desk at work at left it plugged in all day long so I quickly became used to it. I do miss the larger screen especially when compared to this temporary 3.5" screen.
Viewing pictures, surfing the net and playing games (so mostly media) would be where most of my time would be spent on this phone. Really the only thing I like on DVP over the HD7 is AMOLED screen and believe it or not the styling.
Can anyone say for certain whether or not the screen on the HD7 is actually an improvement over the HD2? And if so if it would be a noticeable improvement?

The screens on the HD2 and HD7 are identical, I have Transformers on both devices and pausing at the same screen shows them to be using the same screen.

ericc191 said:
I say neither.
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really man... if you've got nothing to contribute, don't bother. i'm sick of seeing you do this on every place that ask these sorts of questions.
as for which to get, i would probably go with HD7 as the on screen keyboard is massive enough that not having physical keys would be close to a non-issue.

efjay said:
The screens on the HD2 and HD7 are identical, I have Transformers on both devices and pausing at the same screen shows them to be using the same screen.
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Wow that's a bit of a disappointment since they claim the HD7 sports a "Super" LCD screen. I do remember the washed out screen on my HD2.
Maybe the bigger issue is that I'm impatient and feel like waiting for January for a DVP only to POSSIBLY find out it's still plagued with more issues.
Besides isn't the DVP the heaviest of the bunch?

pistol44 said:
Wow that's a bit of a disappointment since they claim the HD7 sports a "Super" LCD screen. I do remember the washed out screen on my HD2.
Maybe the bigger issue is that I'm impatient and feel like waiting for January for a DVP only to POSSIBLY find out it's still plagued with more issues.
Besides isn't the DVP the heaviest of the bunch?
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I've never seen specs or reviews claiming the HD7 has a SLCD. Do you have a link I can look at?

The Gate Keeper said:
really man... if you've got nothing to contribute, don't bother. i'm sick of seeing you do this on every place that ask these sorts of questions.
as for which to get, i would probably go with HD7 as the on screen keyboard is massive enough that not having physical keys would be close to a non-issue.
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It's my opinion and if I had to choose, I'd choose to wait. Plain and simple. I'm hoping that ASUS WP7 device shows up on T-Mobile sooner or later.

If I was able to make that choice, my snap decision would be the DVP, based almost solely on how much I really like how it looks in pictures. Pure liquid sex.
But then, I'm really used to having a good physical keyboard (Tilt2), and anything with a physical keyboard innately calls to me.
However, since I've sold my eternal soul to AT&T, my choices were a little different, and I could not justify the choice with the physical keyboard, despite the fact that it actually does feel really surprisingly good in the hand. Losing half an inch of screen was too much. Had to go with the Focus.
So yeah, I really don't know where I intended to go with this, but I guess my reply is to stop thinking so hard about it. If you can't wait, then your choice is made by default. If you can wait, wait. Then play around with both. No matter what jerks on the internet say, once you hold them in your hands, you will know.
But then, if you have no way of physically handling a unit before purchasing, and you are OK with relying on the opinion of a guy who has no chance to own either, then go with the Dell!

FL5 said:
If I was able to make that choice, my snap decision would be the DVP, based almost solely on how much I really like how it looks in pictures. Pure liquid sex.
But then, I'm really used to having a good physical keyboard (Tilt2), and anything with a physical keyboard innately calls to me.
However, since I've sold my eternal soul to AT&T, my choices were a little different, and I could not justify the choice with the physical keyboard, despite the fact that it actually does feel really surprisingly good in the hand. Losing half an inch of screen was too much. Had to go with the Focus.
So yeah, I really don't know where I intended to go with this, but I guess my reply is to stop thinking so hard about it. If you can't wait, then your choice is made by default. If you can wait, wait. Then play around with both. No matter what jerks on the internet say, once you hold them in your hands, you will know.
But then, if you have no way of physically handling a unit before purchasing, and you are OK with relying on the opinion of a guy who has no chance to own either, then go with the Dell!
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Lol great advice thanks!

MartyLK said:
I've never seen specs or reviews claiming the HD7 has a SLCD. Do you have a link I can look at?
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As for the SLCD screen most of the spec sheets I read show the display as having that. Not saying it's fact just saying that's what seemed to be advertised. If you google "HD7 SLCD" you'll find quite a few matches..

pistol44 said:
As for the SLCD screen most of the spec sheets I read show the display as having that. Not saying it's fact just saying that's what seemed to be advertised. If you google "HD7 SLCD" you'll find quite a few matches..
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But you wont find it listed on HTC's site, which is what would matter most. And those sites stating that it has SLCD probably just copied from one another, thats the way the internet works these days. I do agree on one thing, the screen size does make it a lot easier to type on and the autocorrect and prediction also add to the ease of text entry. I have posted on forums from my HD7 more in 1 week than in the 6 months I had the HD2.
As you say, you could end up waiting for the Dell only to find out its still got huge problems, but that may be the best option since at least that way you would have the info to make the best decision. 2011 is only 4 weeks and some days away, so its not really that too long to wait.

hd2 wp7 or lg optimus 7?

good morning i'm here to ask you wich of this two phones is better: hd2 with windows phone 7 or lg optimus 7 thank so much
can some one also share the hardware specificatopn of this two cellulars thanks

Select the 2 models, press compare:
http://www.hellkom.co.za/cellphones/compare.php

HD2... Android, wp7, wm 6.5... ubuntu, a great community behind... one of the best phones ever seen...

gastrella said:
good morning i'm here to ask you wich of this two phones is better: hd2 with windows phone 7 or lg optimus 7 thank so much
can some one also share the hardware specificatopn of this two cellulars thanks
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If you want a genuine WP7 experience, the LG is the way to go. The HD2 is the world's best phone for a lot of things, but it can't give you a permanent WP7 solution. Without a key, you can't use the Live features and they are foundation of the OS...Market, Zune, Live hub and so forth.

I admire HD2 as a real king of phones.
But for a real, supported WP7 experience get LG.
And this phone rocks too. Absolutely.
Almost no flaws. Pictures in low light could be sharper.

i made this question because i've got an htc hd2 with A lot of optional (3 batteries a doking station 8 gb of microsd 2 gel protector ecc ) and one of my friend offerme an optimus 7 plus 50€ for it ... do you think i've to Accept the offert ?

gastrella said:
i made this question because i've got an htc hd2 with A lot of optional (3 batteries a doking station 8 gb of microsd 2 gel protector ecc ) and one of my friend offerme an optimus 7 plus 50€ for it ... do you think i've to Accept the offert ?
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If it is the 1024 Leo, no! If it is the 512 Leo, yeah.

Do not get LG optimus 7. It's looks solid but has crappy hardware. I've sent mine back twice and it's still buggy as hell. I switched to a different carrier and got the samsung focus and desperately trying to get rid of the LG.

i have the lg optimus 7 and the camera sucks bad on lg, especially with the flash. other than that its a very solid phone

which is the bug of lg?

Well its still hard to say but the touchscreen can be ridiculously unresponsive at times. Now this seems to happen in certain situations like when changing the volume to ringer or attempting anything in ie. You should know that the only way to wake the device is rto use the small button at the top. I am going back today to check about the screen but other wise I am very happy with it.

HD2, No question... It's not every phone where you can run WM 6.5 AND WP7 on....the best of both worlds...
If they made it on a CDMA network (CDMA coverage is better than GSM in my area), It would be the only phone I would buy.

if you want a WP7 device, trade. Unless you're a developer the HD2 id factorably worse than devices designed for the OS they run.
Also extra batteries are useless when you have a hard case on the phone. Most people could care less if you have them because it's a pain in the rear to remove an otterbox or body glove case all the time to swap batteries.
Hell, swapping batteries period is a pain, imo. Lol.
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N8ter said:
if you want a WP7 device, trade. Unless you're a developer the HD2 id factorably worse than devices designed for the OS they run.
Also extra batteries are useless when you have a hard case on the phone. Most people could care less if you have them because it's a pain in the rear to remove an otterbox or body glove case all the time to swap batteries.
Hell, swapping batteries period is a pain, imo. Lol.
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I gotta disagree there. That isn't the experience I have. In fact I say it's "factorably" better than devices running OEM OSes. I've used a number of genuine Android phones such as the Nexus S, Evo and DesireHDs and the HD2 running their ROMs is generally smoother and just as fast. The Nexus S ROM especially is better running on the HD2...at least it feels better.

Worse quality screen than even the HD7 and Evo 4G. Small battery (same size as HD7). Has issues failing due to MoBo issues after some time (overheating, freezing, and random chain-resets, etc.) <- this is the main reason most T-Mobile reps try to steer people away FROM the HD2, and why they do the same for the HD7 (the devices are too similar with similar naming, so they assume the HD7 will have the same issues). Camera is not competitive. Hardware buttons on the front get sort of loose on some phones after heavy use.
The build materials are quite good. The specs are rather coincidental IRT WP7
But there are better phones.
The HD7 is good as a developer device because it can be hacked to run 3-4 smartphone OSes, meaning as a developer you do not have to buy a new phone to develop for WP7 or Android if you're moving off of Windows Mobile.
But the newer devices designed for their respective OSes are better devices.
Yes, Carrier Branded devices offer suffer from performance issues due to bloatware and carrier modifications, but I don't agree that an HD2 outperforms a Nexus S, or even a Nexus One. Sorry.
I do have 3 different phones (HD2, HD7, Vibrant), so I've done this comparison - side by side, already.
In the case of Android devices, they tend to come with large internal storage in addition to an SD Card Slot (not the Nexus S, though), which give them yet another advantage over the HD2. It has basically just a 1GB ROM and an SD slot. Sorry, but I'll take a 16GB NAND (12.6GB free) with an 8GB cheap Class 4/6 SD Card over going out and spending $150for a good quality name brand 32GB SD Card (not the cheap knockoffs everyone is getting from eBay, etc. having an SD fail on you sucks esp when you have tons of data on it).
But whatever floats your boat.
The HD2 is only like $49.99 on contract these days so if you want one that badly, then just buy a new one and ETF the line later. If you sell your old phone, you may even come out a bit ahead...

ok thanks for the answare ... but i read in a lot of forum that lg optimus 7 is a bad phone because it freez and restart randomly it have a bad quality cameraand the screen a lot of time not responding .... all this bad thing is absent on my hd2 only the camera is bad when i use the flash ...
this is why i'm not sure to make the trade
is it true ?

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Worse quality screen than even the HD7 and Evo 4G. Small battery (same size as HD7). Has issues failing due to MoBo issues after some time (overheating, freezing, and random chain-resets, etc.) <- this is the main reason most T-Mobile reps try to steer people away FROM the HD2, and why they do the same for the HD7 (the devices are too similar with similar naming, so they assume the HD7 will have the same issues). Camera is not competitive. Hardware buttons on the front get sort of loose on some phones after heavy use.
The build materials are quite good. The specs are rather coincidental IRT WP7
But there are better phones.
The HD7 is good as a developer device because it can be hacked to run 3-4 smartphone OSes, meaning as a developer you do not have to buy a new phone to develop for WP7 or Android if you're moving off of Windows Mobile.
But the newer devices designed for their respective OSes are better devices.
Yes, Carrier Branded devices offer suffer from performance issues due to bloatware and carrier modifications, but I don't agree that an HD2 outperforms a Nexus S, or even a Nexus One. Sorry.
I do have 3 different phones (HD2, HD7, Vibrant), so I've done this comparison - side by side, already.
In the case of Android devices, they tend to come with large internal storage in addition to an SD Card Slot (not the Nexus S, though), which give them yet another advantage over the HD2. It has basically just a 1GB ROM and an SD slot. Sorry, but I'll take a 16GB NAND (12.6GB free) with an 8GB cheap Class 4/6 SD Card over going out and spending $150for a good quality name brand 32GB SD Card (not the cheap knockoffs everyone is getting from eBay, etc. having an SD fail on you sucks esp when you have tons of data on it).
But whatever floats your boat.
The HD2 is only like $49.99 on contract these days so if you want one that badly, then just buy a new one and ETF the line later. If you sell your old phone, you may even come out a bit ahead...
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No need to be sorry. You have your opinion, we all have our own opinions. But I am speaking from experience. Have you used a Nexus S?
gastrella said:
ok thanks for the answare ... but i read in a lot of forum that lg optimus 7 is a bad phone because it freez and restart randomly it have a bad quality cameraand the screen a lot of time not responding .... all this bad thing is absent on my hd2 only the camera is bad when i use the flash ...
this is why i'm not sure to make the trade
is it true ?
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Exactly. The only consistent problem with the HD2 is the green hue of the camera image with flash.

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Exactly. The only consistent problem with the HD2 is the green hue of the camera image with flash.
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I don't see that as a big problem unless you're printing pictures... in which case Photoshop easily fixes the hues.

I'll always suggest a pure WP7 experience over a tainted one. The HD2 is similar to the HD7 only less responsive and HTC's WP7 devices have been less than impressive as is. So yeah, 100 percent go LG.

gastrella said:
ok thanks for the answare ... but i read in a lot of forum that lg optimus 7 is a bad phone because it freez and restart randomly it have a bad quality cameraand the screen a lot of time not responding .... all this bad thing is absent on my hd2 only the camera is bad when i use the flash ...
this is why i'm not sure to make the trade
is it true ?
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Complete bull****.
I run LG Optimus 7 all the time and it's almost bug free.
Never had any problem with unresponsive touch screen. Restarted ONCE through the whole usage cycle.
And it's my main phone..
Camera is good, it's not stellar. Yes in low light has some sharpness problem but it shows real colours.

A phone worth waiting for in WP7

I had the HTC mozart the first day it had released and absolutely fell in love with the OS.
I am approaching the end of my contract and was planning on another WP7.
I initially had plans to get the lumia but the lack of FFC and non removable battery is kind of holding me back (I had to take out the battery of the mozart quite a lot of time when it gets hanged and would prefer a new phone where I can take out the battery)
Which phone do you guys thing would be the best bet for WP7 (Anything in market or any phone which is going to be released soon)
Cheers
Shamreez
PS: Played with my friends Galaxy s 2 and that is a pretty tempting phone too

I recently picked up an HD7 for free on a 3 year plan and really like the phone. The 4.3" screen is nice and it doesn't lag at all. WP7 doesn't need huge specs to run well so I wouldn't let that concern you.

HD7 is nice...BUT!
bhenness said:
I recently picked up an HD7 for free on a 3 year plan and really like the phone. The 4.3" screen is nice and it doesn't lag at all. WP7 doesn't need huge specs to run well so I wouldn't let that concern you.
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However the HTC HD7 battery life really sucks. I'm not sure if it is just my device but I have already turned off ALL synchronizations. On the settings -> battery saver. A full charge only shows me that I have 15hours. The battery drains are really bad.

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However the HTC HD7 battery life really sucks. I'm not sure if it is just my device but I have already turned off ALL synchronizations. On the settings -> battery saver. A full charge only shows me that I have 15hours. The battery drains are really bad.
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We have two HD7's (wife) and have been very happy with the battery life. I have had them for a couple of months and have never run out of battery life in a single day. I always recharge at night anyway. Being a software dev I tend to push the phone pretty hard as well. However, I do turn off bluetooth when not in the car.
Overall I am very pleased, as I initially thought the 4.3" screen would suck the juice, but so far that hasn't been the case.

Titan. Not sure if you can get one where you are, but it's outstanding. I had a Focus, which I liked a great deal, but picked up the Titan to try out. Was intending to return it, as I expected it to be just too big, but I love it.
It's funny, when I go back to look at my Focus, I think of how small it is .

of the devices right available now, the titan (giant screen, fairly thin, great build materials) or the focus s (excellent screen, super thin, super light) are the best choices if you want a large screen (and if you can get them where you live and work on your networks)
the only device that is upcoming that interests me right now is the nokia ace (lumia 900)

Ditto on on the Titan.
I picked up both a Radar and a Titan. I actually loved the Radar, and it would be a great choice for someone who needed more of a mid-range phone and is happy with a more compact size.
But the Titan is simply awesome. Windows Phone really comes to life on that huge screen. The Titan is the one I kept.

Lumia 900 I'm predicting LTE modem since its said to come with windows phone tango.
You'll have to wait a few months though...
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So I guess the best thing would be to go for the titan now or wait for the Nokai Ace.
(I am prepared to wait if it is 2 - 3 months) but I guess it would be more (Or would Nokia try to disturb Apple iphone 5 party by releasing it on March)

I have the hd7 now and love it... I definatly am not getting a white phone(titan).
I have yet to see an omg I need that phone. Like I did with the hd2 and hd7.
Im in the same boat as you though. I would sell the hd7 and get another phone while the hd7 is still holding its value but there is nothing standing out from the rest.. 2nd gen devices dont have HSPL yet, there specs arent far greater than 1st gen anyway..
Nokia does seem like they will be putting out some really nice phones though. But come on its Nokia, Id love to see HTC put out something to compete with Nokia's phones I have a feeling they will be coming out with. Ive own HTC phones since my ppc-6700(remember that block) and I think their quality is really good.

shamreez said:
So I guess the best thing would be to go for the titan now or wait for the Nokai Ace.
(I am prepared to wait if it is 2 - 3 months) but I guess it would be more (Or would Nokia try to disturb Apple iphone 5 party by releasing it on March)
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I think those choices would be the best ones you can make. I'd go for the Titan. It has a good battery life, great build quality, it's thinner than the HD7 and the screen's massive.
The things one can hear concerning the Nokia Ace are cool too. But I also think that you'll have to wait more than 2 or 3 months until it's released. iPhone 5 releases are just speculation - normally Apple releases it in july (after the WWDC) but for example the iPhone 4S was released later. If I was you, I'd take the Titan and be happy

For Wp i would choose phone from Htc, i have 7 trophy, and i am very happy.