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[Q] Should I make the switch to Android?

Hi everyone!
As the title suggests, I'm thinking about making the switch to Android I'm currently at windows mobile, on a HD2. It's a great phone but I can't help but feel that WinMo just doesn't make such a great mobile OS.
Custom ROM's do improve the experience and all, but still, it's WinMo.. So, I thought "Okay, I'll sell my HD2 and buy myself a Desire". At this time of writing, someone is willing to pay € 250 (keep in mind that this phone is almost a year old and has some scratches on the side).
€ 250 is okay, but I'm aiming for € 300
But, now I'm getting second thoughts.. Should I wait to switch to android? Or should I keep the HD2? The Desire seems pretty solid and futureproof...
I really don't know anymore.. And since it involves quite a lot of money, I thought I could use someone else's take on this
So XDA, what do you think is best?

Wait for something better than the desire, and in the mean time, use the android rom for the hd2
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Yeah, that's why I'm having second thoughts There are a lot rumored phones which should out somewhere around the holidays I guess.. But, is it worth the wait? Because the rumored dual core cpu seems kinda overkill.. And 1.2 GHz cpu's don't really seem to make much difference to me.
I mean, 1GHz is already a lot of horse power for a phone :O
Edit: In the world of gadgets and technology, something new and better is released daily, I could keep on waiting for something better?

It depends what you want from your phone. I've had the desire since probably about April, and whilst it was already an amazing phone, I rooted it yesterday because I didn't want to wait around for froyo update. Now what was a great phone is a Stellar phone!
But that's just me. As others have said, HTC are bringing some new phones out but hardware wise they're not too dissimilar to turf desire. If you want either a 4+ inch screen an 8meg camera, or a slide out keyboard, then wait for the desire HD or the Desire Z.
If these are not essential, a desire will be future proof for a least a year yet id say. But hey I'm no.expert

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It depends what you want from your phone. I've had the desire since probably about April, and whilst it was already an amazing phone, I rooted it yesterday because I didn't want to wait around for froyo update. Now what was a great phone is a Stellar phone!
But that's just me. As others have said, HTC are bringing some new phones out but hardware wise they're not too dissimilar to turf desire. If you want either a 4+ inch screen an 8meg camera, or a slide out keyboard, then wait for the desire HD or the Desire Z.
If these are not essential, a desire will be future proof for a least a year yet id say. But hey I'm no.expert
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I was kinda thinking the same thing Although I'm hoping to get by a little longer with such a phone, so that's why I want to make the right decision this time. I mean, the HD2 feels like a mistake.. It was and still is, a quite expensive phone so yeah..
En pff, a 4" screen is nice but I don't know.. It's probably going to be the same resolution? And the design of the Desire HD looks less attractive compared to the one of the HD2 or the Desire. Well, that's just my opinion
and oh, do you have any remarks on your Desire? Something that could've been done better or..?

I'd definitely make the switch. With the help of a friend, I was recently able to put Android (2.2) on my Acer L2R Geeksphone. Since then, I've just been addicted to the phone (mind you, my Tilt2 has got super specs in almost every single aspect than the Acer L2R).
Everything that wasn't available for me with Wm is now on Android. My Tilt2 has just been laying on the floor since I got Android on this device. Now I'm looking to get a Captivate.

I've been with Windows Mobile since PocketPC 2002 on my Toshiba e740. I liked the OS because it was hackable. Swap out components, make edits, and new features.
What I didn't like is the sluggishness.
Android on my Nexus One is amazing. Here are a few thoughts that I've come across. The trackball is better then an optical pad, but don't buy anything without either one of those. You could get by without it but the trackball has really been useful in games and emulaters. I'm not sure how the optical pad would suffice. I had a Samsung Epix with an optical sensor and 1 swipe was 1 direction. So gaming is out right there. Selecting text is a pain but better then nothing.
The larger screens may seems nice, but the same resolution things will start to look blocky/pixelized. My friend has an AT&T Captivate (Galaxy S) and the screen looks good. It is a bit too big for me. The bigness of the screen make the phone very thin. Which is a good/bad thing. The Galaxy S is sweet but it lacks a trackball/sensor that is very handy.
The Desire is basically the same as a Nexus One. If I could trade my Trackball for a few physical buttons... I wouldn't. The phone is responsive and fast enough to use the onscreen controls. Being able to hit the green send button to quickly bring up the dialpad would very sweet vs having to launch the dialer from my homescreen. Honestly I don't miss a physical button though.
Life is a trade off though:
Nexus One
Trackball is the best of the best if you want to do any kind of gaming.
Trackball Notifications is a treat, presenting 255 programmable different colors for various notifications.
I think they got the FM radio working on the Nexus One.
Software updates are glorious.
You can make the Nexus one look like the Desire (which is sexy)
Desire:
Physical buttons make it easy to bring up the dialer from anywhere to make a call. I've noticed on Android the End Key doesn't really do anything beside hang up a call. I guess some programs could remap those keys for other uses.
Optical sensor is middle grade. Makes gaming basically useless unless it is all touch controls. Given the quirky multitouch issues of the screen in the Desire/Nexus one, that is also limiting.
I think the Desire is sexy
Galaxy S
I'm not too sure about it yet. I recommended my friend by one, and he did. He complains about the battery being very very short (half a day on light use).
The screen has a blue/green hue. Very noticable.
The screen is easily visible in direct sunlight. Which is awesome.
No trackball/sensor. Ouch.
Hummingbird processor/GPU
Screen has a great multitouch screen. So multitouch gaming is easily possible.
Phone is so THIN that you could probably afford a thicker longer battery to make it last throughout the day.
My opinion... wait. If you want one now the Nexus will start to get Gingerbread probably starting in October (almost a month). Maybe try to find one second hand or cheap. Stay out of contract because some better phones with better processors will start coming out very soon.

The wait for a new phone like desire hd or desire z is not to long and will be a big difference. But no one would blame you if you jumped the gun, especially if you like the design better and feel 1 ghz is enough.

Yeah, the Nexus One has crossed my mind already.. but it's a bit more expensive than the Desire and it's kinda hard to order one and get it shipped right here to Belgium.
I don't know why, but Google doesn't ship to Belgium. It did to the Netherlands but, Google has stopped shipping Nexus' and right now, I don't find a webshop which has cheap shipping or even the Nexus One.
And concerning the Desire HD/Z, I don't think there'll be much difference, the Z will have a physical keyboard and the HD will have a huge screen, just like de HD2 does. But, I noticed that with the HD2, holding the phone can be problematic sometimes. Operating the device with one hand can be kinda tricky, you could easily drop the phone that way..And oh, the Desire HD is not likely to have a trackbaal/sensor And just like player911 says, it's something which is very handy! Most of the time when I have a Android device in my hand, I use the trackball/sensor to switch screens etc.
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http://htcpedia.com/news/995.html
(rumored spec's of the HTC HD, although I guess most of you already knew that )
Are there any more rumored Android devices? :O

One of the only things I would have improved on the desire would have been speed of the OS as it ran slightly slow at times. However now that I've upgraded to froyo I'm struggling to think of anything. The minor gripes I had before are mostly ironed out in froyo.
The biggest negative for The desire is the battery life, but this can be remedied in a # of different ways. I have a spare battery for instance. Also, froyo supposedly improves battery but I haven't run any tests personally.
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I'd wait for better and more powerful android devices as i can't see much difference or generation gap between the HD2 and Desire/Captivate etc.. HD2 is still a powerhouse device and it has great android rom ports. In addition, it looks like WM7 port will be available for HD2,too. So hd2 is also very flexible between different platforms.
Sems.

narcoustic said:
One of the only things I would have improved on the desire would have been speed of the OS as it ran slightly slow at times. However now that I've upgraded to froyo I'm struggling to think of anything. The minor gripes I had before are mostly ironed out in froyo.
The biggest negative for The desire is the battery life, but this can be remedied in a # of different ways. I have a spare battery for instance. Also, froyo supposedly improves battery but I haven't run any tests personally.
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Hmm, I've read about the battery life.. Is it really that bad? I mean, do you have troubles to get through the day with one charge?
Semseddin said:
I'd wait for better and more powerful android devices as i can't see much difference or generation gap between the HD2 and Desire/Captivate etc.. HD2 is still a powerhouse device and it has great android rom ports. In addition, it looks like WM7 port will be available for HD2,too. So hd2 is also very flexible between different platforms.
Sems.
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Good point. But the Android ports for the HD2 are nothing close to the real deal, it seems. No? And personally, I don't like WP7 at all.. Way to apple-ish for me. I want a phone which lets me do whatever I want to do with it. That's something which is not going to be possible with WP7 - unless it gets hacked, and it probably will, but still, I don't like it

Battery on desire will get you through about a day on a single charge (pre froyo) but its not drastically worse than other smart phones I don't think. I always charge my phone everyday anyway.
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I wouldn´t think on make the switch
My Leo is capable of having the best of both OS and still has same or even better specs than "newer" devices.
And now that WP7 is just around the corner, I´ll stay with WM/WP!

After owning an HD2 you won't to go back to anything with a smaller screen, i did and hated it, so bought a streak! So much better than the HTC in every department

Personally, I think 4" is the biggest screen size I find comfy. Anything bigger is a bit of a risk in the hand.
Ive had the Nexus one and the desire. ALthough near identical, I much appreciate the hard buttons as opposed t o the softkeys on the Nexus.
The Nexus Trackball acts funny after a few months of use (or did in my case) and the optical joystick on the desire randomly breaks with most CM based Roms. so
Btw HTC Sense has a pretty good text selection feature making it easy to deal w/o any sort of joystick/trackball.
I'd wait and get the next range of HTC phones or a samsung galaxy phone. Both will have huge android dev (galaxy coz they simply sold so many!) and HTC because the community has been built around HTC Devices.
The two biggest things on my Desire wish list include:
- better GPU not that I really play games , but hey! I would if I could!
- Multi touch issue (you wont notice it in the browser) but a lot of games are soooo frustrating because of the multi-touch bug
THe Nexus one had the following issues:
Power button has a mind of its own
hard to press soft keys
Bought a Galaxy S to review so will let you know what thats like. Im sure it'll have its quirks.
Hope this helped
Oz

HD2 or Vibrant?

Okay, I've got an HD2 fresh out of the box and running like a dream that someone wants to trade a samsung vibrant for. This HD2 runs froyo great and with a disabled G sensor I've got all the quirks out (minus the G sensor of course) I just wanted to see what you'd go with, sadly I know samsung hasnt been so good about keeping their phones updated and that is the one thing that makes me hesitant (okay not the one thing, the screen and processing power certainly help) and I'm just looking for opinions from other nerds

Keep the HD2. It runs Android pretty fast as well as Windows Mobile. Oh, and the HD2's Android port already has 2.2 with Flash support

rr5678 said:
Keep the HD2. It runs Android pretty fast as well as Windows Mobile. Oh, and the HD2's Android port already has 2.2 with Flash support
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Hell yes!!!

I thought that too but I'm eligible for upgrade in 4 months so which would retain value better

I'm biased towards HTC so I'd say stick with the option to dual boot. But if you want a true Android experience then definitely try the Vibrant.
Btw I'm posting this from my HTC HD2 running darkstones froyo
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and I'm going it from shubcraft with the G-sensor disabled.
I just want to know which will retain value more since I am eligible for upgrade (to whatever the best phone is at that time) in 4 months and I want it to still be sellable, I'd do the vibrant but I know how iffy they are on their upgrades, I was a sad owner of a behold 2

ive used both and ive loved android from my g1 days! like a poster said above if you want the true android experience get the vibrant. its only a matter of time before roms start dropping. the screen is prettier then the hd2 and lets face it ... no matter what you do to windows mobile it still sucks! sorry guys !
get the vibrant !!!!

how is the screen prettier? I must ask I didnt know anything about that really... i just know it feels cheap and plasticky and none of the specs are as good as hd2 with android

i have the hd2 with android and i also have a vibrant. now before anything get says ive never been a fan of wm! in my opinion the vibrant is a better phone. if you want android get an android phone. not a phone with " windows mobile" then flash android on there! the samsung also has a higher resloution screen and it actually works in the sunlight. and the battery life on the hd2 is HORRENDOUS and thats being nice. i average about 10,000 texts a month and over 3000 minutes and the hd2 would crap out on me in 4 hours flat! im all for buying spare batteries and such and i really wish i could say i had a good experience with the hd2 but besides the big screen the phone serves as a good paper weight

but in what way is the HD2 worse than this as an android phone? theres the G sensor yeah but were like 4 steps away from calibrating that and defeating the issue and the hardware is quite obviously better...

Speaking strictly on hardware I think the HD2 is the winner. The Vibrant doesn't feel too well put together. The hardware was what made me get the HD2 over the Behold 2 and other phones being offered in April.
Software speaking I wish I'd never gotten the HD2. Maybe that's just my experience. But as soon as I saw that you could run Android from the HD2 the phone was new again. But right now while I want a true Android experience I'm gonna till Sept for the newest offerings rather than get the Samsung.
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so I guess the general consensus is the HD2, i mean with an HD2 running android it seems theres really no competition from my standpoint, I really dont see much longevity in the galaxy S series either, i mean they still havent updated to froyo...

z33dev33l said:
but in what way is the HD2 worse than this as an android phone? theres the G sensor yeah but were like 4 steps away from calibrating that and defeating the issue and the hardware is quite obviously better...
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OTHER than the horrendous battery life?

both run a 1ghz cpu i also thought i read the gpu was better on the vibrant as far as screen yea its.3 inches smaller but it has gorilla glass which is stronger than the hd2 and the hd2 is 480 X 800 WVGA where the vibrant is 480 x 800 Super AM-OLED battery life on the vibrant is great and is true android dont get me wrong hd2 is great but it depends on personal preference

They're both excellent phones. The HD2's screen is large and immersive, and with some tweaking and researching, HD2 would be near-perfect according to today's standards of phones. Samsung vibrant is just as good, but the screen isn't as large. However, the quality of the Vibrant's screen is amazing. Again, both great phones, definitely some of the best that T-Mobile has to offer right now.

goldeman said:
i have the hd2 with android and i also have a vibrant. now before anything get says ive never been a fan of wm! in my opinion the vibrant is a better phone. if you want android get an android phone. not a phone with " windows mobile" then flash android on there! the samsung also has a higher resloution screen and it actually works in the sunlight. and the battery life on the hd2 is HORRENDOUS and thats being nice. i average about 10,000 texts a month and over 3000 minutes and the hd2 would crap out on me in 4 hours flat! im all for buying spare batteries and such and i really wish i could say i had a good experience with the hd2 but besides the big screen the phone serves as a good paper weight
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They have the same 800x480 screen res. Battery life has gotten better with new builds, I'm averaging a solid 12 hrs of heavy use. The HD2 feels better, looks better and is made better than that ugly plastic samsung thing.

And also..last time I checked no one is trying to put winmo on their phone.... Get the vibrant! And you wouldn't get 12 hours out of any phone with heavy use! Stop your ****!
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Vibrant has a faster processor (Hummingbird > Snapdragon), more graphics power, better quality screen (Super AMOLED), and runs Android out of the box. I have an Epic 4G and coming from the regular AMOLED on my Samsung Moment I notice a HUGE difference. The Galaxy S screens are just amazing.
All Galaxy S phones (Vibrant, Captivate, Epic 4G, and Fascinate) will get FroYo by early October, and likely Gingerbread by March/April of next year.
If you want the extra .3 inches in screen real estate get the HD2, if you want the newer, more powerful device get the Vibrant.

[Q] Help! HTC HD7 or Dell Venue Pro??

Ok so I'm fed up with the garbage that us Canadians have in terms of WP7 launch devices. I hate that every year we end up with the crap phones while T-Mobile and others get all the great ones.
So I'm considering ending my 10 yr run with Telus and reducing my monthly bill in half by trying out either Mobilicity or Wind Mobile. At the same time I have the additional benefits of choosing from any of T-Mobile's phones for use here.
So that leaves me to choose now between the HTC HD7 and the Dell Venue Pro. I am completely up to date on the rumours, bugs and issues each device has. I just need to know for all of you which device you think I should choose (even if it means waiting until Jan).
Btw I am a previous owner of the HD2 and loved it aside from the glitchy OS. And currently using an iPhone 4 as my temp phone (barf).

I was waiting for the DVP but got an HD7 because it was available and I think support would be better with a physical store to perform exchanges. The DVP has obvious advantages like the scratch resistant glass, keyboard and AMOLED screen but even with the shortcomings of the HD7 like battery life, pink tint on the camera (which I can remove using Windows Live Photo Gallery) and LCD screen I am enjoying the OS immensely. Even the recent antenna issue I can cope with and I have ordered a silicone case.
The big unknown is if Dell can deliver a device that works well enough that it would only need a few software updates to fix and until they release it no one can tell. But for those who have had both the DVP seems to be the preferred choice so if you can wait it may be the one for you. Follow the #dellvenuepro tag on twitter to get the latest news and user impressions, best source of info on the DVP vs HD7.

I would say Dell Venue Pro, despite all the current launch problems.
The Dell has a great Amoled screen + Qwerty keyboard.
EDIT: I thought the Dell Venu Pro had flash NAND storage. Apparently not.

The Dell's memory is provided completely by SD card, there is no NAND memory onboard. And while the HD7 camera certainly isn't the best available it beats the Dell in irts current form hands down.

efjay said:
The Dell's memory is provided completely by SD card, there is no NAND memory onboard. And while the HD7 camera certainly isn't the best available it beats the Dell in irts current form hands down.
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Oh really. Sorry then. I was sure it had
I will edit my previous post.

T-Mobile doesn't have the Dell Venue Pro, they only have the HD7, but I find the HD7 to be the choice phone even if the Dell were available. The HD7 is basically a beautified HD2 with it s black-chrome surround, silver mesh inserts at top and bottom that also conduct sound from the rear speaker. The kickstand is superior to the one on the HTC Evo and the overall build quality of the HD7 is superb. Granted, I had 3 previous HD7s before the one I now have. The first three were faulty and now I have one that is 99.99% perfect. The .01% shortfall is due to a tiny dent or deformity along the rear edge of the chrome surround. If it wasn't for that, this would be a perfect phone.
However, even with the 3 faulty HD7s prior to this one, I still chose to have one because of the gorgeousness and style as well as the excellent hardware specs. If the Dell's AMOLED is anything like other AMOLEDs, I wouldn't have chosen it because of the lack of small text detail. AMOLED is great for movies and pictures but poor for text detail. I saw a Samsung Focus at a local AT&T and was stricken by how much less attractive the main page tiles were in comparison to the other two offerings which used regular LCD tech. The tiles of the AMOLED seemd to have color bleed or a lack of sharpness to the pixels.
If you are mainly into movies and pictures on the device, the Dell might be more pleasing for you with its AMOLED. If you are more into an information device, where text definition is important, the HD7 would be the better choice. I love the style of the Dell, but I love the style of the HD7 more.

I say neither.

Dell Venue Pro
I've been using the HD7 for a bit over a week now and it's really a well built device.
I should warn though that it has a major flaw - the battery. My phone was fully charged this about 7am this morning, no calls and just 10mins of internet browsing. Battery died at 6pm. I'll be swapping it for the Venue Pro when that comes out.
I should warn that I have no idea how the DVP battery will hold up, but as a starter, the smaller screen will help.

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I've been using the HD7 for a bit over a week now and it's really a well built device.
I should warn though that it has a major flaw - the battery. My phone was fully charged this about 7am this morning, no calls and just 10mins of internet browsing. Battery died at 6pm. I'll be swapping it for the Venue Pro when that comes out.
I should warn that I have no idea how the DVP battery will hold up, but as a starter, the smaller screen will help.
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To conserve battery life, turn off the GPS. I do this and only use GPS when it's needed...like in the car, where I have it plugged into power. Major battery saver.

imoses44 said:
I've been using the HD7 for a bit over a week now and it's really a well built device.
I should warn though that it has a major flaw - the battery. My phone was fully charged this about 7am this morning, no calls and just 10mins of internet browsing. Battery died at 6pm. I'll be swapping it for the Venue Pro when that comes out.
I should warn that I have no idea how the DVP battery will hold up, but as a starter, the smaller screen will help.
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how are you going to swap it? By the time the dell is available, you will be past t-mobile's 2week return window....
I wanted the dell VP until it had all the launch problems. I think HTC is a better mobile phone manufacturer.

Great feedback everyone..
Seems like the poll is leaning towards the DVP but comments seem to lean towards the HD7..
I used to own the HD2 so I remember all too well the battery issues. But I was the guy with the extra charger on my desk at work at left it plugged in all day long so I quickly became used to it. I do miss the larger screen especially when compared to this temporary 3.5" screen.
Viewing pictures, surfing the net and playing games (so mostly media) would be where most of my time would be spent on this phone. Really the only thing I like on DVP over the HD7 is AMOLED screen and believe it or not the styling.
Can anyone say for certain whether or not the screen on the HD7 is actually an improvement over the HD2? And if so if it would be a noticeable improvement?

The screens on the HD2 and HD7 are identical, I have Transformers on both devices and pausing at the same screen shows them to be using the same screen.

ericc191 said:
I say neither.
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really man... if you've got nothing to contribute, don't bother. i'm sick of seeing you do this on every place that ask these sorts of questions.
as for which to get, i would probably go with HD7 as the on screen keyboard is massive enough that not having physical keys would be close to a non-issue.

efjay said:
The screens on the HD2 and HD7 are identical, I have Transformers on both devices and pausing at the same screen shows them to be using the same screen.
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Wow that's a bit of a disappointment since they claim the HD7 sports a "Super" LCD screen. I do remember the washed out screen on my HD2.
Maybe the bigger issue is that I'm impatient and feel like waiting for January for a DVP only to POSSIBLY find out it's still plagued with more issues.
Besides isn't the DVP the heaviest of the bunch?

pistol44 said:
Wow that's a bit of a disappointment since they claim the HD7 sports a "Super" LCD screen. I do remember the washed out screen on my HD2.
Maybe the bigger issue is that I'm impatient and feel like waiting for January for a DVP only to POSSIBLY find out it's still plagued with more issues.
Besides isn't the DVP the heaviest of the bunch?
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I've never seen specs or reviews claiming the HD7 has a SLCD. Do you have a link I can look at?

The Gate Keeper said:
really man... if you've got nothing to contribute, don't bother. i'm sick of seeing you do this on every place that ask these sorts of questions.
as for which to get, i would probably go with HD7 as the on screen keyboard is massive enough that not having physical keys would be close to a non-issue.
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It's my opinion and if I had to choose, I'd choose to wait. Plain and simple. I'm hoping that ASUS WP7 device shows up on T-Mobile sooner or later.

If I was able to make that choice, my snap decision would be the DVP, based almost solely on how much I really like how it looks in pictures. Pure liquid sex.
But then, I'm really used to having a good physical keyboard (Tilt2), and anything with a physical keyboard innately calls to me.
However, since I've sold my eternal soul to AT&T, my choices were a little different, and I could not justify the choice with the physical keyboard, despite the fact that it actually does feel really surprisingly good in the hand. Losing half an inch of screen was too much. Had to go with the Focus.
So yeah, I really don't know where I intended to go with this, but I guess my reply is to stop thinking so hard about it. If you can't wait, then your choice is made by default. If you can wait, wait. Then play around with both. No matter what jerks on the internet say, once you hold them in your hands, you will know.
But then, if you have no way of physically handling a unit before purchasing, and you are OK with relying on the opinion of a guy who has no chance to own either, then go with the Dell!

FL5 said:
If I was able to make that choice, my snap decision would be the DVP, based almost solely on how much I really like how it looks in pictures. Pure liquid sex.
But then, I'm really used to having a good physical keyboard (Tilt2), and anything with a physical keyboard innately calls to me.
However, since I've sold my eternal soul to AT&T, my choices were a little different, and I could not justify the choice with the physical keyboard, despite the fact that it actually does feel really surprisingly good in the hand. Losing half an inch of screen was too much. Had to go with the Focus.
So yeah, I really don't know where I intended to go with this, but I guess my reply is to stop thinking so hard about it. If you can't wait, then your choice is made by default. If you can wait, wait. Then play around with both. No matter what jerks on the internet say, once you hold them in your hands, you will know.
But then, if you have no way of physically handling a unit before purchasing, and you are OK with relying on the opinion of a guy who has no chance to own either, then go with the Dell!
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Lol great advice thanks!

MartyLK said:
I've never seen specs or reviews claiming the HD7 has a SLCD. Do you have a link I can look at?
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As for the SLCD screen most of the spec sheets I read show the display as having that. Not saying it's fact just saying that's what seemed to be advertised. If you google "HD7 SLCD" you'll find quite a few matches..

pistol44 said:
As for the SLCD screen most of the spec sheets I read show the display as having that. Not saying it's fact just saying that's what seemed to be advertised. If you google "HD7 SLCD" you'll find quite a few matches..
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But you wont find it listed on HTC's site, which is what would matter most. And those sites stating that it has SLCD probably just copied from one another, thats the way the internet works these days. I do agree on one thing, the screen size does make it a lot easier to type on and the autocorrect and prediction also add to the ease of text entry. I have posted on forums from my HD7 more in 1 week than in the 6 months I had the HD2.
As you say, you could end up waiting for the Dell only to find out its still got huge problems, but that may be the best option since at least that way you would have the info to make the best decision. 2011 is only 4 weeks and some days away, so its not really that too long to wait.

[Q] Upgrade to which phone?

Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai

Jahai said:
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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I'm sorry to tell you, but I think you are at the wrong place. Everyone here likes his desire s.
If you need a big screen, try galaxy note or use pc
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Jahai said:
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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I would advise you to wait for the Mobile World Congress before upgrading... you'll have many more options within a couple of months...
But if you still want to upgrade now, here's my input :
1. Sensation : ? Why would you want to consider that? It's an average phone, and from whatever time i've spent on it on my friend's phone, it's nothing to write hone about. Does anyone even remember the original Sensation anymore (Especially after the XL and the XE?)
2. The SGS2 is a very very fast phone, with great hardware, but i have two issues with it : The screen has a bluish tinge to it, and colour reproduction is inaccurate across the spectrum. Secondly, it looks like a plastic business card holder
3. The Galaxy Nexus is a lovely looking device, the form factor is very attractive. In my discussions with zeekiz (who bricked his DS and migrated to the GN) he says he loves the phone and it's not slow or anything like you mentioned. Plus, you'll be the first person to get the next Android version update (Jellybean). Thirdly, it always makes sense to go for the newer device, both for the gains in hardware, as well as company support that comes more easily and lasts longer for newer (especially) flagship phones.
Best of luck choosing your next device!!

Jahai said:
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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Just a small note here, with my experiance the 3.7' of the Desire S is the largest screen size for a mobile that I can -almost- fully use with one hand, whenever you go beyond that, you may have to get used to work with both hands, and that made me drop the sensation in favor of my DS
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I came from a HTC Sensation to the Desire S as i found the Sensation too big. Surprisingly i have found the Desire S not much slower.

I would also wait for the MWC...but if you can't wait, IMHO Sensation is a good device especially after it's rooted and equipped with the custom ICS based roms made for the XE version (with CPU at 1.5 Ghz)...i think capy's work.
Anyway you have a lot of roms to try even with ICS out there.
Regarding the SGSII it's ok if you want a plastic phone....
Galaxy Nexus has a good screen and it's not slow but i think it's a little big, you will clearly need 2 hands if you want to use it properly.

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Regarding the SGSII it's ok if you want a plastic phone....
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No-go for me... Plastic toy feeling
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No-go for me... Plastic toy feeling
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Right on! Exactly my thoughts about the SGS2. It feels like a business card holder!

Wait for mwc and HTC edge if price isn't the big deal
Otherwise, i personaly would buy a sensation, the gs2 is sure a nice device, but like mentioned above the screen isn't the best and the plastic body feels weird.
The galaxy nexus isn't a device for me, there are 2 dealbreakers at my opinion, even if the resolution is better than at the gs2 the grapic chip is wors and there is no sd slot.
The update cycle is sure a point and the nfc also, but for my opinion it's a pure developer phone.
The sensation is from hardware almost the same like the sensation xe and every rom can be exchanged between those 2 devices, there is no nfc, for sure, but the gs2 also haven't got one, so this isn't a point of interest for you i think.
Also even if all of them have them same frequenzies the sensation runs at a stock speed of 1.5 ghz with an xe rom, so it got the highest frequency of those phones.
Swifted from my Desire S far away from my PC

yeah i'd wait for MWC but if not galaxy nexus for all the reasons above. It is definitely not a slow phone, especially since google probably built ICS for the nexus. The only thing i hate about the nexus phones is the fact that they're always released at awkward times. By awkward, i mean right before all the new hardware comes out. My brother has an S2 and it does have a horrible plasticky feeling. While the galaxy nexus is the same, it seems to hide it better. The white S2 is even worse! It has no grip on the back which makes it absolutely horrible to hold, not to mention a liability too.

It's been a while since I did a megga-post.....
From what I'm hearing about HTC's line-up for MWC, I hope they also announce a sensible phone. At the moment I really don't know what I'll get, as the current rumours all seem to have several problems for me.
1. Screens too big.
I have a non-upgradable 2.5" thumb. I've spoken to my network provider but they wont give me a larger one. I do not want to have to change grip or use two hands to turn screen on/off. The DS screen size is perfect. It is fine watching films on Netflix.
2. Quad core. Really?
Does anyone remember the Coca-Cola/Sprite stunt yo-yo's from the eighties? (Bear with me here, work is a little slow today and I feel a rant coming on.) They were a massive craze when I was at school. They came in two versions. "Standard" and "Pro". The Pro ones cost nearly twice as much. Why was that? It was because the Pro version had "Pro" written on the side. That was it. They were the same size and weight as the standard version. But every kid in my class practically sold a kidney to get the pro version, because to show up in the playground with the standard version stood you out for ridicule, and everyone was certain the Pro version could do better stunts. What is quad core going to give us? How often is it going to be running on more than 2 cores? Can it do better stunts? My single core phone can render web pages quickly, run any game I've asked it to, record 720p video at 30fps, and has a smooth and lag free UI. It just doesn't have "Pro" written all over it. That word seems to brain-wash kids into doling out dosh! Kids love the idea of being "Pro". Look at what every premium version of any app on the Android Marketplace is called.
3. Skinny form-factors
Leading to phones being bendy and having a non-removable battery. I like my solid aluminium DS. I've held the SGS2. It feels like a kinder surpise egg. Squeeze it too hard and I worry it'd break. Plus if we are having to have a (pro) Quad Core phone don't we need a bigger battery? Did you know the HTC Edge has a fifth core (super pro) that is a very low power companion core for when the phone is off in your pocket? Turn your phone on (without dropping it changing your grip to reach the button) and expect laptop battery life from the 40nm chip. Will it come with a Pro Charger?
4. No SD Card slot.
OK most of the phones with these also claim built-in 32GB storage which is fine for capacity, but what if I brick my phone larking about on XDA? What if it just packs in? Currently all my music/photos/documents would simply be removed and put into another phone. If it's built-in and your phone wont boot.....Are the cloud-storage sites encouraging phone manufacturers to do this?
5. Build Quality.
HTC seem to have really dropped the ball with this one. They used to be fantastic. However I know 3 people who have bought the DS since September (on my recommendation) and all of them have been back for repair at least once. One of them died for the second time two nights ago with the dreaded eMMC chip failure again! WTF? Did they replace the faulty board with another one prone with the same weakness? She also waited 6 weeks to get that phone back the first time. I feel guilty now. Also check Amazon for the reviews of the DS. Since September it's started getting a load of 1 star reviews and they all read the same. It seems I was lucky in buying my DS on it's release, before it seems HTC moved production to the local wine bar/crack house. There is no way I'm spending £450 on something I'm not confident will last a year or will take me 6 weeks to get repaired.
If HTC...no if ANYONE announce a phone that has: A screen under 4", solid build, removable battery, SD card slot, improved camera optics, decent amount of RAM, reasonable battery life and justifiable processing power, then I'll get my wallet out. Or if it comes with a free Pro Yo-Yo. They do better stunts.
Basically I want a DS with a nicer camera and bigger battery. And a sticker that says "Pro" on it.

wnp_79 said:
It's been a while since I did a megga-post.....
(Bear with me here, work is a little slow today and I feel a rant coming on.)
Basically I want a DS with a nicer camera and bigger battery. And a sticker that says "Pro" on it.
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Brilliant!
Love the rant (and i thought i was the only one with this illness)
I agree on mostly everything you've said above... especially HTC screwing up on its strengths... build quality, sub-par components, and progressively bloat-ier (i know that's not a word) Sense... Though i'd still buy an HTC instead of a Samsung, all things set aside, they do better stunts!!

Yeah. Your words seem to come right from my mind.
a desire s pro would be really cool
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If i had the choice, i'd choose the sensation in a heartbeat.
First, it has the beat build IMO. The SGS 2 is too plasticky and since it's far too thin, it feels weird in my hand. The galaxy nexus is waaaaaay to big. The sensation is perfect
Second, HTC Sense. It is just too good and i can't get a device that has no chance of getting Sense. Besides, touchwiz sucks and the stock experience on the nexus can be acieved through an AOSP ROM.
That said, the super amoled screen is quiet good ad a plus point of both sammys.
That said, i recommend you wait till MWC. Something awesome will surely come up. There is a thread, full of leaks on the two upcoming htc devices, the One X and the One S.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476788

it has to be the htc amaze, i think its a great phone, in addition to that htc has quality in its build, as in our desire s the aluminum feel is way better than the plastic in most samsungs

[Q] Do you really like "bigger and bigger" smartphones?

Hi guys,
As you can guess, I'm not fan with latest smartphones like Galaxy SII and SIII, HTC Sensation, and so on.
I consider them simply too big to be used as phones. I could never do or answer a call with these ones.
I think of them like "monster" phones.
Why, Is there no new android phone (high quality level) with dimensions lower than 4.0 inches?
I think this is a thing Iphone is better than other phones (at the moment).
Do you really like "bigger and bigger" smartphones?
Regards
UnclePetros

Have you even bothered researching your own claims, of course there are new 4" fones on the market!
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Love 'em. The bigger the better ;-)

UnclePetros said:
Hi guys,
As you can guess, I'm not fan with latest smartphones like Galaxy SII and SIII, HTC Sensation, and so on.
I consider them simply too big to be used as phones. I could never do or answer a call with these ones.
I think of them like "monster" phones.
Why, Is there no new android phone (high quality level) with dimensions lower than 4.0 inches?
I think this is a thing Iphone is better than other phones (at the moment).
Do you really like "bigger and bigger" smartphones?
Regards
UnclePetros
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I like bigger ones, to a point, too big gets uncomfortable to use, the sensation might be the biggest I can use (I have small hands) smaller screens are harder to see for me. my eyes are going. soon time for glasses.

i like S3 and One X but i think bigger phone like Note is great for the big screen but to unusefull for the too big dimention

I like very much but i think the Galaxy's SIII size is the limit to be cool.

Big phones are good to a point. The galaxy note is too large.

I do not see what the big problem is?
Why do people moan about size? It's perfectly fine size.
Smart phone that is. You just get used to them. Big deal. move on.

well that all depends on your use and really preference. I got the Note a month ago and dont regret it at all. Honestly when i pick up a captivate with 4 inch screen i have trouble using it. If i was to just want a smartphone for regular smartphone stuff instead of a tablet phone, then i would have to go under 5", but i like the option of screen real estate just in case. Its really just comes down to preference.

uhm...,
obviously I don't refer to Galaxy Note, its not a true smartphone at all.
It has been created for other purpose, and in this case I could agree with dimensions.
Anyway in my honest opinion:
1. For me it's a pain to stay more than 5 minutes in call with a SGII near my ear. Too big for one hand.
2. It is not so smart to use more than one finger to reach all the corners of the display.
3. It is not so handy
4. It is not so comfortable in pocket.
Have you even bothered researching your own claims, of course there are new 4" fones on the market!
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Yes, the only new smartphone the suite my needs is the Experia Sola, but it is not the top in the hardware.
I haven't found other smartphones with 3.7''-4'' display size and top hardware.
There is the HTC ONE S, that HTC says is "a compact size", but it is 4.3'' display!
Please, could you show me what smartphones you refer to?
The bigger the better ;-)
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Too generic.
smaller screens are harder to see for me. my eyes are going. soon time for glasses.
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Font size is indipendent from display size.
What is different is only the area to contain the stuff.
As example, I find the SGII default look&feel size too big and unaesthetic.
well that all depends on your use and really preference. .... Its really just comes down to preference.
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Yes, I fully agree with you;
but the problem is that not only I haven't the same wide choice of devices under 4'', but I think in a few months there will be no choice anymore for devices under 4'' !
Thank you for all the answers. Nice to know your opinion.
Regards
UnclePetros

The bigger the better If you ask me. Next time I`m buying something that can only fit in a backpack. I`m tired of 320 x 480. It depends on why you need it, ofc....

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The bigger the better If you ask me. Next time I`m buying something that can only fit in a backpack. I`m tired of 320 x 480. It depends on why you need it, ofc....
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yeah,bigger is better. the resolution is everything for todays mobiles phones

I think better is not really good after is break, 4.0 inch it is the maximum fro me

It depends on the user's hand, head and pocket size. Lol!
e.g. The Incredible Hulk will need at least a 7-inch tablet as a Smartphone.
Tinker Bell can use the iPhone as a big screen HDTV.
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UnclePetros said:
Hi guys,
As you can guess, I'm not fan with latest smartphones like Galaxy SII and SIII, HTC Sensation, and so on.
I consider them simply too big to be used as phones. I could never do or answer a call with these ones.
I think of them like "monster" phones.
Why, Is there no new android phone (high quality level) with dimensions lower than 4.0 inches?
I think this is a thing Iphone is better than other phones (at the moment).
Do you really like "bigger and bigger" smartphones?
Regards
UnclePetros
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i use to feel the same way. i remember the first time i bought my first smart phone it was an iphone. i remember walking into to the store and then walking out saying no way, no way it's just too big. and that was going from a small nextel push to talk phone. to the iphone 3g it was just way bigger it was like a monster compaired to my nextel. so it took me awhile too go back to store (about a month later) i eventually got the iphone 3g. and i remember thinking the whole time as i drove back home... this thing is too big i know i'm not going to like but i gave it a try. the first few days were hard i'm mean the size and the battery life was not what i was accustomed to. but i eventually git used to the size and the bad battery life.
my last iphone was a iphone 4. and my current phone now is a GS2 and now when ever i pick up an iphone it's just way too small i can't go back no way. i am now thining of the getting the note. at this point i have lerned to adapt the newer bigger phones and find myself never looking back to the old 3.5-4.0 days.
guess this guys video explains how i feel now.
http://youtu.be/cl6AHTNef-s

Like someone saldo it allí depends on the need. I heard somebody that those huge pones were made for People with big hands Like basketball and football de playero. I also heard that información japan all Phone were miniture and u can do anything with it.

i dont really like that Trend of bigger and bigger Phones, i mean, 4" is the biggest i would buy, first i had a Nokia N95 its was cool and for that time THE High End Device but it was really thick and i think the screen too small for Internet(2,6"), so i got a Nokia C6-00, bad performance but relativly good screen (3,2") in fact the Displaycable broke and i needed Replacement , now i changed to Sony Xperia P (4") and it fits perfect!
Two Friends of mine owned HTc One X and Galaxy SIII and i had both in my Hand but they are definitly too big by slightly low resolution change...

bigger or just nice
there are many phones just release and releasing soon in the android market.having alot of my time researching for specs of this upcoming phones,i can say that 4.2-4.8 inch display phones will become the norms in the near future.its about individual preference.i still stick to my nexus one.hehe.but have eyes on the s2(not s3 as for me the design is odd)..

I think there is a balance between too big and just right. Having said that, it is a moving scale, because everybody has different needs and uses for the device.

i don't like mini-laptop size any phones........