[HOWTO] Unbrand Trophy - Trophy Windows Phone 7 Development

Thread moved to WP7 general.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10176994#post10176994

It worked on my trophy!!!!
Thanks lot!!!
For information:
I used a 4Go Sandisk SDHC class2 FAT32 formated with my HTC desire.
I used goldcard tool to find the Reversed CID and patch.
I explored and extracted the .exe update downloaded with win rar and copy all (do not know if it was needed) on the SD and rename the RUU_SIGNED.nbh to SPARIMG.nbh.
I build my Own Y cable with two Femalle USB (one for the card reader and the other to link the phone) and one Male for the power.
I boot in host usb and the update began...
Hope it can help
Good night

I think I've figured out a way to unbrand your phone not using any Y-cables: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10283329&postcount=32

Super!
Successfully unbranded my Trophy (Network A1 Austria)---->WWE Europe (RUU_Spark_HTC_Europe_1.10.401.04_Spark_5.52.09_REL EASE).
I made the cable myself (it isn't difficult at all) , CID and Gold card using Android build on my HD2, but flashing from Windows 6.5.5 with my HD2 connected as Disk Drive.
Now works my phone really smooth and quick.
Many thanks!!

bippolinno said:
Successfully unbranded my Trophy (Network A1 Austria)---->WWE Europe (RUU_Spark_HTC_Europe_1.10.401.04_Spark_5.52.09_REL EASE).
I made the cable myself (it isn't difficult at all) , CID and Gold card using Android build on my HD2, but flashing from Windows 6.5.5 with my HD2 connected as Disk Drive.
Now works my phone really smooth and quick.
Many thanks!!
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Also success from A1 to WWE Europe. I used Kingston 2GB microSD card, HTC Wings (WinMo 6.1) and PSAS to get CID, Goldcardtool to make a goldcard, and regular cardreader + Y-cable to flash.

another way to unbrand?
Is there any other/more easy way to unbrand the tropghy. I don´t like to use a gold card, it´s to complicated for me.

Anyone trie this in Trophy?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984239
Regards

Something must have gone wrong. My update failed at the radio stage.
SPARIMG.nbh - FAIL
Radio - FAIL
Update terminated
Update fail
Help

bippolinno said:
Successfully unbranded my Trophy (Network A1 Austria)---->WWE Europe (RUU_Spark_HTC_Europe_1.10.401.04_Spark_5.52.09_REL EASE).
I made the cable myself (it isn't difficult at all) , CID and Gold card using Android build on my HD2, but flashing from Windows 6.5.5 with my HD2 connected as Disk Drive.
Now works my phone really smooth and quick.
Many thanks!!
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do you know version of your original SPL... I'm fighting with my trophy for 2 days.
First it shows NOT ALLOW - SERIAL, or LOADING - NO FIRMWARE

if it doesn't go to USB then it could be your phone with goldcard which isn't in USB mode or the cable doesn't work.
when saying no firmware it could be because you forget to rename the rom (forgot it myself too a week ago.)

it wasn't rename... will try again with HTC Wildfire today instead of cardreader... hope will be free tomorow
I'm FREE TODAY

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hi all, pls help me

I just got an I-mate JAM with following info:
ROM version: 1010.00 WWE
ROM date: 08/18/05
Radio ver: 1013.00
Protocol: 1337.43
ExtROM ver: 1.12.550 WWE
RAM: 64MB
Flash: 64MB
Model No: PM10A
Platform: PocketPC
which ROM that i should use now?
and can I do it without USB cable? (copy ROM to MMC and install)
I'm living in Vietnam and use English
Welcome to XDA-developers!
Your ROM version is fine, however you may wish to upgrade to the latest 1.13 ROM + 1.13 Radio + BigStorage (by the way, BigStorage is just a way in which you can extend your measly 7MB of Storage to 27MB). However you will need a USB cable for the above method: I highly recommend to invest in one anyway, as you will find installing many programs onto your JAM difficult without one.
I think it is possible to upgrade with just a SD/MMC card and a SD/MMC reader for your computer, however it is considerably more complicated and you will not be able to back up your existing ROM, as you will need your computer to command your JAM during the backup process. You will probably need to merge two upgrading methods in order to get a USB cable-free process, something that no one else has done. Sorry I don't quite have the time for that yet, but maybe someone else can come to your aid!
Is there a technical reason you can't use a USB cable by the way?
EDIT: I forgot this: the reason why you cannot upgrade by just dumping a ROM onto the SD card and letting the JAM upgrade from that is that the ROM must be modified with some special, device unique data from your JAM first before your JAM will accept it. The normal ROM upgrade programs do this via USB by retrieving the device data from your JAM and then applying it to the ROM they are about to send to it. While there is a way to manually get this required data, that too requires a USB cable (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=231410).
haaaaalp
hi there, i tried upgrading my 02 xda executive from the software update on O2 website.my active sync 4.1 stopped working in midst and my xda is nt working now.and my pc isnt recognising the xda. the xda isnt starting up its completely dead.I tried hitting the 2 softkeys and the soft reset button and the screen lights up and it says to rollback to factory setting hit 0 zero, but nothing happens................plz help would be appreciated.http://www.my-xda.com/xdaExecSoftware.jsp
also the screen now has USB and v1.00 over it and shows nothing but this and not starting up and my pc pops a message up saying that an unknown usb device and cant be connected
buddy28s said:
hi there, i tried upgrading my 02 xda executive from the software update on O2 website.my active sync 4.1 stopped working in midst and my xda is nt working now.and my pc isnt recognising the xda. the xda isnt starting up its completely dead.I tried hitting the 2 softkeys and the soft reset button and the screen lights up and it says to rollback to factory setting hit 0 zero, but nothing happens................plz help would be appreciated.http://www.my-xda.com/xdaExecSoftware.jsp
also the screen now has USB and v1.00 over it and shows nothing but this and not starting up and my pc pops a message up saying that an unknown usb device and cant be connected
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Please avoid cross-posting, especially since this is the wrong forum. I can't help you anyway - different models of PDA can have very different ways of doing things.
toomuchdogfur said:
Welcome to XDA-developers!
Your ROM version is fine, however you may wish to upgrade to the latest 1.13 ROM + 1.13 Radio + BigStorage (by the way, BigStorage is just a way in which you can extend your measly 7MB of Storage to 27MB). However you will need a USB cable for the above method: I highly recommend to invest in one anyway, as you will find installing many programs onto your JAM difficult without one.
I think it is possible to upgrade with just a SD/MMC card and a SD/MMC reader for your computer, however it is considerably more complicated and you will not be able to back up your existing ROM, as you will need your computer to command your JAM during the backup process. You will probably need to merge two upgrading methods in order to get a USB cable-free process, something that no one else has done. Sorry I don't quite have the time for that yet, but maybe someone else can come to your aid!
Is there a technical reason you can't use a USB cable by the way?
EDIT: I forgot this: the reason why you cannot upgrade by just dumping a ROM onto the SD card and letting the JAM upgrade from that is that the ROM must be modified with some special, device unique data from your JAM first before your JAM will accept it. The normal ROM upgrade programs do this via USB by retrieving the device data from your JAM and then applying it to the ROM they are about to send to it. While there is a way to manually get this required data, that too requires a USB cable (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=231410).
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Thanks for your help, i'll try and tell u the result.

Need SSD help from 7510 owners!

If any 7510 owners can scan their registry, I am searching for any drivers associated with the SSD. Can you help out? This is in relation to trying to upgrade the 7500/7501 to a 16GB SSD.
Keith Walker
Hi Keith,
I take it you're looking for the drivers for the flash storage and that you're working on porting AP4 to x7510?
If not, please could you let us know what else you need?
keithwwalker said:
If any 7510 owners can scan their registry, I am searching for any drivers associated with the SSD. Can you help out? This is in relation to trying to upgrade the 7500/7501 to a 16GB SSD.
Keith Walker
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just go get one of the x7510 rom images from the x7510 hardspl thread i made (stickied, easy to find) and dump the registry and files.
easiest test might be flash the rom as is, but make sure you got 3.5 SPL and not 1.2.
note, someone tried this already (i've talked to him in PM) and SSD wasn't working. which SSD driver did you install? same as x7510?
Copy text between lines and save as .REG
_______________________________________________________________
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\SDBusDriver]
"IClass"=multi_sz:"{20FA98A8-B298-4b32-8D72-C716AEE2FA84}=%b","{6F40791D-300E-44E4-BC38-E0E63CA8375C}=%b","",""
"Flags"=dword:00010000
"RequestListDepth"=dword:00000030
"ThreadPriority"=dword:00000064
"Prefix"="SDC"
"Dll"="SDBus.dll"
"Order"=dword:00000015
_______________________________________________________________
I'll see in a while if I can extract SDBus.dll
I guess there might be some sort of race going on here to see who can be 1st to port AP4 to x7510!
Whichever way it goes, if successful we all win.
I am not working on porting AP4 to the 7510, but working on getting the Transcend 16gb SSD recognized in the 7500/7501. I have the 7510 ROM that was modified to work with the 7500/01 but the SSD is not recognized as of yet. I plan to run WM5torage and see if the USB recognizes the SSD.
I don't think that our objectives are mutually exclusive. If the drivers from the 7510 can be extracted to work with the Transcend SSD in the 7500/7501; then surely those drivers can be put into the AP4 ROM.
Thanks for the info so far, fyi, I have SPL3.5
NanoRuler said:
Hi Keith,
I take it you're looking for the drivers for the flash storage and that you're working on porting AP4 to x7510?
If not, please could you let us know what else you need?
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I ran v1.73 of WM5torage and the SSD is recognized under USB connection.
It is titled WM5torage ATHE400 USB Storage Device. It is not formatted so the capacity still reads 0
Question is how to format it through WinXP or Vista????
If one of you guys has WM5torage, can you hook up your 7510 to your PC and then right click on your SSD?
It should show up as a removable disk. Right click on Properties, then under the Hardware tab, there should be a list of drives.
Click on the ATHE400 device and then hit Properties Button again.
A new window should openand then go to Driver tab.
Tell me what drivers are listed for your SSD once you hit the Driver Details button?
On mine they are:
c:\windows\system32\drivers\disk.sys
c:\windows\system32\drivers\PartMgr.sys
Let me know if you have anything different!
Keith, surely if you can see it under XP or Vista then you can format it? Is anything preventing you from formatting it as a removable storage device?
keithwwalker said:
I have the 7510 ROM that was modified to work with the 7500/01 but the SSD is not recognized as of yet.
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this is the mistake
flash an *unmodified* x7510 rom from the thread i mentioned, and see if SSD works in that. you can always reflash to x7500 rom to fix the annoyances coming from the ROM not being fully compatible but this is just fine to test the SSD itself.
I will try that Cmonex. But I thought that the ROM would not upload if the device was not an ATHE400. I will try it anyway.
With regard to formatting the SSD under USB connection. The only formatting available under my XP unit at home was FAT12. With FAT12, the SSD only had 78mb, dissappointing.
FAT32 wasn't an option, which was strange.
I sent that SSD back to Transcend, and now have the new one installed.
Does anyone have the link for the std. ROM? I downloaded a zip file, but it is fragmented file with .raw extensions. How to extract?
CMONEX posted a few links here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441684
Well I downloaded the std. 7510 rom and the SSD is still not recognized. I might as well switch to the AP4 ROM and try to format the SSD via USB cable from the host PC.
keithwwalker said:
Well I downloaded the std. 7510 rom and the SSD is still not recognized. I might as well switch to the AP4 ROM and try to format the SSD via USB cable from the host PC.
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This might be the reason why the drivers don't work:
al-djazair said:
Hi,
as my X7510 had a deadly accident, I dismantled it.
It doesn't have a SSD. The place where X7500 has his MicroDrive is filled by the PCB with on the both sides a total of four SanDisk SDED5-004G-NC 4GB FlashDrive.
This FlashDrive has a FBGA package which need an industrial soldering machine to be soldered or desoldered.
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Is everyone sure that this is the driver for the SSD? I just uploaded AP4 Platinum (for 7500/7501) and it has the same registry and .dll
NanoRuler said:
Copy text between lines and save as .REG
_______________________________________________________________
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\SDBusDriver]
"IClass"=multi_sz:"{20FA98A8-B298-4b32-8D72-C716AEE2FA84}=%b","{6F40791D-300E-44E4-BC38-E0E63CA8375C}=%b","",""
"Flags"=dword:00010000
"RequestListDepth"=dword:00000030
"ThreadPriority"=dword:00000064
"Prefix"="SDC"
"Dll"="SDBus.dll"
"Order"=dword:00000015
_______________________________________________________________
I'll see in a while if I can extract SDBus.dll
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keithwwalker said:
Is everyone sure that this is the driver for the SSD? I just uploaded AP4 Platinum (for 7500/7501) and it has the same registry and .dll
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the driver is doc0 and doc1 dlls.
but if the ssd did not work under an an unmodified ATHE400 rom, then it will never work with the x7510 driver, sorry
Can anybody create the .CAB file with driver for internal 16 Gb flash-storage of HTC X7510? Please, help!
Dear All Sifus ( Gurus ) of X7501 and x7510 ,
Looks like the this tough hurdle is still around after 2 years now , it is so easy to solve a only hardware problem , also a only software problem , but it is most difficult to solve a problem of both hardware and also software that is associated together , especially when Htc and also ssd manufacturer is keeping mum about the settings . But i think nothing is impossible , so pls quickly solve this puzzle and share with us and dont give up , you are very close already , thanks and regards - jimmunsw

Treo750 is not working anymore

Hello,
I have a big problem and I hope you can help me.
A few weeks ago I want to update my Treo to WM6.5 and use a Rom (I think from navenedrob) which was timebombed (since there I don't know it).
Now I want to update my Treo to the right version from this thead :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541417
but when I start the update with the cheathunlocker tool, it stops at 7%, the usb connection get lost and my Treo make a restart and the old bimebomed version is there...and the tool says, that the file is curuppted and i should check my update tool... but this message comes every time also with other roms.. When I use the method with the media button there comes the colored screen with "serial" and nothing happens.
(The sd card is okay and the same card which I use to install the timebombed version)
What should I do? I can't do anything... Please help me
1. format the card 32fat.
2. do not use hc card.
3. try to download again the rom.
4. if it does not help - try to install 6.0 rom from palm .
Hello
1. format the card 32fat.
2. do not use hc card.
3. try to download again the rom.
I tried this very often... But nothing helps
Where I can get this Rom? On the plam homepage I can't find a Rom, only instructions and a download for Mobile center.
http://rapidshare.com/files/173145556/Treo750_2.23_ROW_WM6.rar
For England (750V) :
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PS2QHTE6
Oh really thank you for the Roms!
But I have a problem, my Treo dosn't connect to my Pc. When I click to my workplace there isn't a hhd from the Treo.. and the Mobile Center show me, that there i no connection... I have Windows 7, under Windows Vista it don't work too...
Because of that I can't update my Treo.
Do you know the problem and how to solve it?
Really big thank you, this here is a nice community where I get help!!
1. try to install from WINXP - look for another computer...
2. there is a way to get the rom from the file - maybe with winrar- I'm not sure but I remember something like it...
3. look for a rom 6.1 and try to install it from the card.
Okay I try it under Windows Xp, but I get no connection
I get the Rom from the .exe file by 7zip and copy it to the sd card, but the same problem is there at 7%
Do you have maybe am link from Wm6.1?
I think all this dosn't work.. I don't know what the problem is..
What other possibility can I try? There must be a solution for it...
a link to 6.1
http://www.mediafire.com/?4gxsdxh1tmm
maybe you need to replace your card...
Okay thank you.
I try it with an other card and hope it works..
But I think, that this don't work, because when I press the media button und reset, there comes the bootloader with "serial" on the bottom of the display and when I connect it to my pc "usb".. but I can't start the rom with this method...
I try it tomorrow and tell you if it works or not
the "serial" problem happened to me too. It was because bad rom file or bad card.
Okay today I try it with an other Card and 2 Roms (also the orginal Rom), but in the bootloader modus there is every time the "serial" and below..
Palm Tr
IPL-0.20
PalmTr
SPL-0.24.0000
Serial
And when I try it with the cheetahunlocker, it stops at 7% and my Treo make a restart and the old timebombed version is loading..
But maybe my sd card slot is broken from my Treo or the sd card adapter...
because when I run the cheetahunlocker without an sd card, it also stops at 7%...
any idea to check this? Or an other way?
Hey I might have a solution here:
When you format the Mini SD card, do NOT do a quick format. Uncheck that box and do a full format, FAT32, Default Allocation Size.
This took over 15 minutes for me.
Do a scandisk (Right click the drive/tools/scandisk) and check "Fix Errors". This should ensure your SD card is in good shape.
Now copy a good ROM to the card and reset+PTT. The Palm should flash successfully now. If not your ROM may be corrupted.
Hope this helps! It worked for me!
1. Format sd card to fat32
2. find the .nbh file in the stock ROMS
3. rename it CHEEIMG.nbh
4. copy it to the sd (make sure it is not hcsd or it won't work)
5. insert the card in the card reader
6. reset the phone by using the stylus and the reset button next to the card reader, at the same time hold the PTT button on the left side of the phone, (this will put it bootloader mode)
7. when prompted, press the end talk button on the phone, this should start the update process without using activesync.
HardSpl
1. redownload the app and extract using 7zip
2. make sure you have .NET compact framework 3.5 installed on the PC and the phone
3. in CHEETAH unlocker press ctrl+2 and click the header (this will unlock all three options)
4. follow steps
The radio it flashes will not be a good one, so you need to search around to get the right one. Once those steps are complete, you should be able to reflash WM 6.5 without any problems. If you download Navendrob's ROM, you will need to download the arcsoft mms composer to make mms work, and you should be good to go.
Hi backspacepc,
thank you for your help!!!Now it works.. I didn't rename the file. so this was the problem
Hi,
I have a question about this rom. (Wm6.5 from naevendrob)
My touch is broken, so I can't use the touch. Now I have the problem, that I only end a call with touching "end" and not with the normal hang up button on my keybord.
My second problem is, that I can't lock my Treo, because when I want to unlock it, I have to use the touch display.. On Wm 6.1 I could turn my screen with the hang key on my keyboard off.. this is now on this Rom not possible, or do anybody have a solution for this? Maybe in the registry or something?
Thank you
Has nobody a anser?
Speedkazze said:
Has nobody a anser?
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Since your issue is with the ROM you loaded & your hardware problem, you should bring it up at the specific thread where you downloaded the ROM from.
I would recommend getting the touch screen fixed or roll back to WM6.0.
No it's a Problem with my Treo. I change the touchscreen one time and it works for a while, but after maybe 2 months the touch dosn't work.
Can anybody maybe write a file that i can use the hang up button to hang up without the touchscreen?Or has anyone an idea to change it maybe in the registy or sth. like that?
Speedkazze said:
Okay thank you.
I try it with an other card and hope it works..
But I think, that this don't work, because when I press the media button und reset, there comes the bootloader with "serial" on the bottom of the display and when I connect it to my pc "usb".. but I can't start the rom with this method...
I try it tomorrow and tell you if it works or not
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Yes I have the same problem, i try with two micro SD card 2 and 1GB formatted to FAT32,and i didnt use quick format, and the cards aren´t HC. but is not working, I supose isnt the card, something is missing,
Please, Can Somebody Help us????
thanks a lot
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gracias de antemano
juancamaney69 said:
Yes I have the same problem, i try with two micro SD card 2 and 1GB formatted to FAT32,and i didnt use quick format, and the cards aren´t HC. but is not working, I supose isnt the card, something is missing,
Please, Can Somebody Help us????
thanks a lot
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gracias de antemano
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HardSPL the phone first, then it should work.

[Q] Error Device ID HTC Trophy

Please help and sorry for my English better from the Czech Republic
After recording ROM RUU_Spark_Vodafone_SPA_1.10.164.01_Radio_5.51.09.29_22.32.50.10U_by_ansar
I have damaged bootloader Device ID
top-left before it was PC40 **** Now it's all blurred
And I can not upload any ROM, or can not upload another version of basic designed for ROM Trophy as eg. the European version.
When one percent of the instrument will restart and display me this error
ROM utility reports an error 244 during installation Other original
I was looking for help on XDA, but without success throwing error mito valid ID Device according to my ID is somehow erased, or do not know and therefore can not upload no other drive ...
Photos do not know where I put it to not let me put them here
your only solution is a goldcard and install ruu rom that you prefer.
it solve your bootloader blurred
you need
Delock USB Daten- and Powerkabel
DATA CABLE: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Delock-USB-Daten-and-Powerkabel/dp/B001BHVMIU
Unbrand All HTC WP7 with an android device
MOBILE ANDROID O WM TO create a goldcard: I have a htc wildfire (android) and samsung i900 (wm) I prefer wildfire.
Guide to create Goldcard: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10176994#post10176994
short Usb A 2.0 A A/F female to micro microusb B cable
Usb converter to microusb: http://cgi.ebay.es/short-Usb-A-2-0-...465440?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item35b535c060
USB Reader for Micro SD Cards - Supplied with 1Gb Micro SD Card - USB 1.0 2.0 Supports up to 32Gb Micro SDHC
card reader usb (important no multicard reader): http://www.amazon.co.uk/USB-Reader-...21?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1316514225&sr=1-21
RUU_Spark_HTC_Europe_1.09.401.08_Spark_5.51.09_RELEASE
ROM EUROPE 1.09: https://rs637l35.rapidshare.com/#!d...219042|R~A1F624B8D4BACBA8C0FF8A03AC129A8A|0|0
When you fix bootloader send me an PRIVATE MESSAGE
oh plizz help me
my htc trophy bootloader display pc40100 ss-bc (4k) only.. i cant flash any other rom now... plizzzz helpppp !!!! sorry 4 my bad english
write me it very easy solve it
???
what do you mean????????
this this problem can solve using another method???
i dont know how to buy that cable and other stuff... (shame)
Buy cables
Sent from my 7 Trophy using Board Express
plizzzzz
i mean..my country doesnt sold that cabel.... so sad living in this country

need help upgrading my dell axim X51

picked up a bunch of dell axim X51 pda's they are the low spec model how do i flash them or upgrade them to windows mobile 6 or windows mobile 6.5 wanna mess around with them for fun
JulietGrayPhone said:
Good luck!
[emoji881][emoji881][emoji881][emoji881]
Sent from my SM-A102U using Tapatalk
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your reply didnt answer my question at all it was a pointless reply
x51v
kaitlin459 said:
picked up a bunch of dell axim X51 pda's they are the low spec model how do i flash them or upgrade them to windows mobile 6 or windows mobile 6.5 wanna mess around with them for fun
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Hello im happy to see topic about this device ! i have dell axim x51v and i tried to upgrade to wm 6,5 from wm 5,0 few days ago.
I used rom: diad_k_aximx51v_wm65 with correcponding CRC hash file
here you have live links to ROMS and there are more places where is possible download ever WM6.5
i cant post links but i can share it with you
here is guide how to do it:
i cant post links but i can share it with you
But be aware ! i did it exactly step by step and reslt was bricked PDA .
I copied the *.nb0 & *.CRC file to my SD card (FAT32) non SDHC 2GB, insert into PDA, push POWER+WIFI+RESET after that release wifi button and while img loader appeared release all buttons, *.nb0 appeared so i choosed it and flash, read and also write to internal flash went good, even finall message displayed that upgrade was successfull and i should hardreset my device to complete flash, i did it - hard reset message when you should confirm hard reset appeared so i confirmed but nothing happen, i tried do again flash but same story, now im event not able to see *.nb0 file on my card ! so im without OS and i cant flash my device i can enter image update tool and also test tool which tell me that whole device is OK and passed all tests, when i remove SD and enter image update tool it tells me SD error so SD slot working.
If anyone can help i will be very happy !
THX

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