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I am for lack of a better word, an idiot

well i have a touch pro, and have browsed this site extensively, and have in a last ditch effort brought my problem to the forefront.
I am not very tech savvy as you may put it , and dont have any experience with windows mobile devices. But what I am trying to do it put some form of gps client on my device. yes it comes with a gps server and thats great, but no gps software to utilize this. I have read posts about various softwares, but to be honest, i have no idea where to get these softwares, how to install them and anything about bandwidths or satellites or anything.
If it wouldnt be too much to ask, would anyone here take it upon themselves to kinda write and outline for dummie on how to install gps on ure touch pro, and exactly how u go about doing this. I live in Hungary at the moment, and would like to have a client that supports world maps. I dont know about data plans or anything, so i would like it to be self reliant.
Any nudges in the right direction (gps joke, not a funny one however) would be appreciated.
thank you.

There is a search functioin at the top of the thread listing - you can use that.
Otherwise this is how, after much hassle, I bought a genuine copy of CoPilot for Touch Diamond and installed it on the Pro.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424658

hey, thanks for that, i did read ure post, but didnt understand it fully. the link u provided has two buy options, one is for north america and the other is the bluetooth edition. what about for europe as well?

stranger stel said:
hey, thanks for that, i did read ure post, but didnt understand it fully. the link u provided has two buy options, one is for north america and the other is the bluetooth edition. what about for europe as well?
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That would be the "Choose Country" drop down from the top right hand corner of the ALK homepage.
If your Country isn't listed select the UK and then buy online from ALK. You can then change the currency to Euro's and they charge EUR10.50 or something like that for international shipping - this is what I did.

stranger stel said:
well i have a touch pro, and have browsed this site extensively, and have in a last ditch effort brought my problem to the forefront.
I am not very tech savvy as you may put it , and dont have any experience with windows mobile devices. But what I am trying to do it put some form of gps client on my device. yes it comes with a gps server and thats great, but no gps software to utilize this. I have read posts about various softwares, but to be honest, i have no idea where to get these softwares, how to install them and anything about bandwidths or satellites or anything.
If it wouldnt be too much to ask, would anyone here take it upon themselves to kinda write and outline for dummie on how to install gps on ure touch pro, and exactly how u go about doing this. I live in Hungary at the moment, and would like to have a client that supports world maps. I dont know about data plans or anything, so i would like it to be self reliant.
Any nudges in the right direction (gps joke, not a funny one however) would be appreciated.
thank you.
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You can try this: www.igo.hu

i dont actually speak hungarian, so th igo.hu site doesnt really help me all that much. I have no problem buying the north american version, as long as someone can reassure me that european maps are included in that version. there is a store that sells it near where i live, but they are charging more than double the price of what it says online.
is there anyone who lives in europe that uses one of these softwares and is aware of its coverage?
thanks again

You're right your not very tech savvy are you !
as was mentioned earlier NO the north america maps are not for you, HOWEVER if you click on the tab at the very top right of the screen you will be able to choose your continent/country

May Be TomTom 7 For All Smartphone

Hello,
Look at this url :
http://www.tomtom.com/products/category.php?ID=2&Lid=13&selector=true#
The URL is not active.
May be Tomtom 7 on sale for All PDA and Smartphone.
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When I click that link it takes me to a page with TT Navigator 6

RE
Exactly the url was removed bye tomtom but i make a screenshot before url was removed.
look :
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Look here if you want TT7 but they are miserable gits!
Found TomTom 7 for sale on Handtec, doesn't look any different to version 6. Also is doesn't have advanced lane guidance, text to voice or any of the more recent innovations in Sat guidance. Plus, the guys at Tomtom are a bunch of miserable gits!! I'd rather eat a thistle than give them my money, but here you go!
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.ph...stern-europe/abaa06067e7435d4a8355fc285766413

Glasshouse Jon said:
Found TomTom 7 for sale on Handtec, doesn't look any different to version 6. Also is doesn't have advanced lane guidance, text to voice or any of the more recent innovations in Sat guidance. Plus, the guys at Tomtom are a bunch of miserable gits!! I'd rather eat a thistle than give them my money, but here you go!
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.ph...stern-europe/abaa06067e7435d4a8355fc285766413
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Hi,
I totally agree with you, i have already too much fed the big fat lazy cat, which became pushy with its CUSTOMERS, particularly to my own experience, the arrogant european support.
They totally ignored us (smarthone users) at the end of 2007, by not allowing us to get tomtom7(except for some carriers or models(few htc's) )arguing some compatibility issues(laziness again) when you can see copilot7, zorrogps, ndrive which are already compatible with the brand new diamond2 !!
But at the end of 2008 when HTC sold 25 million smartphones wordlwide and are forcasting 45 million for 2009, the big cat realised its coarse strategic mistake and it is now trying to go back to us showing its "pattes de velours"...too late:
i have already too much tasted its claws !!

TomTom are the worse company I've ever had to deal with regarding customer service. They assume you're a criminal when you ask them for a new activation code. Yes tomtom some people do have enough money to buy a new phone after 3 months.
The problem is I actually like the TTNav interface. I tried Co Pilot when I had my Orbit 2 but didn't like it as much.
Right now my car has built in sat nav so not too corcerned about having it on my TD2 & I use Modaco Cameraware for safety camera alerts/.

Here is the link:
http://www.tomtom.com/products/features.php?ID=542&Lid=3&Category=2
Depends of the county you select, there are different builds. In Germany, TomTom 7 is on sale by Telekom.
I have it on my TytnII, build 7.916 with 825 maps. No Laneassistant, Realityview, 3D Terrain...nothing!!!
Navigon 7.4 is great,for me

Hello,
Look at the Web site Tomtom Navigator 7 are now available on sale (On SDCARD)
May be in the list of compatibility tomtom will be add Touch Diamond 2.
Look :
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ziko said:
Here is the link:
http://www.tomtom.com/products/features.php?ID=542&Lid=3&Category=2
Depends of the county you select, there are different builds. In Germany, TomTom 7 is on sale by Telekom.
I have it on my TytnII, build 7.916 with 825 maps. No Laneassistant, Realityview, 3D Terrain...nothing!!!
Navigon 7.4 is great,for me
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..can you share TT 7.916?
Thanks!

ziko said:
Here is the link:
http://www.tomtom.com/products/features.php?ID=542&Lid=3&Category=2
Depends of the county you select, there are different builds. In Germany, TomTom 7 is on sale by Telekom.
I have it on my TytnII, build 7.916 with 825 maps. No Laneassistant, Realityview, 3D Terrain...nothing!!!
Navigon 7.4 is great,for me
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NavigonMobile does not work on the Diamond2/Topaz. When started it just freezes the handset for a few seconds and then it just returns to the home screen.

I had a fall-out with TomTom ages back for similar reasons as already posted. I really despise them now as a company, brand and product. I had three replacement phones in a short space of time due to faults and getting a new code was so difficult - I know they have revenue to protect, but I was treated like a conman. Eventually got a new code to be told that I would not be issued a new one again and I had to agree they would no longer support me!
I tried to get new maps for v6 as it is getting quite poor now, but they said that there would be no updates, so I enquired about the upgrade price to 7 and they said that it is only being relased to OEMs so I have to keep 6. I gave up in the end and found an alternative solution.
However just seen this on TomTom UK:
http://www.tomtom.com/products/product.php?ID=595&Category=2&Lid=1
I wouldn't buy it myself though, I'm through with the robbing blighters!

Check out co pilot 8 launched last week and for sale at £25.99, I can see that affecting tomtoms business. http://www.alk.eu.com/

Colpilot 8
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robsno said:
Check out co pilot 8 launched last week and for sale at £25.99, I can see that affecting tomtoms business. http://www.alk.eu.com/
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Wow looks sweet, and so much cheaper than TT! Just got my new Topaz (TD2), which has 18 months of v7 for free!

It appears to have no new useful features...

what ever it will coast me a lot

Star Walk App

Hi
I have seen the Star Walk iphone app and it looks amazing i went to the site and they have an older version thats it out for our phone but it keeps crashing i think it is to do with wm6.1 and the app is for 6.1, Is there any other software that does the same thing out there i have looked but could not find oat

jsmith_00 said:
Hi
I have seen the Star Walk iphone app and it looks amazing i went to the site and they have an older version thats it out for our phone but it keeps crashing i think it is to do with wm6.1 and the app is for 6.1, Is there any other software that does the same thing out there i have looked but could not find oat
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if you want someone to help you, then please state what the app "star walk" actually does

its an app for looking at the stars, it using gps and then tells u wot starts are above u

Sorry buddies,
it's the same old problem of any applications written for multi-type devices , starwalk for Iphone has one only hw configuration , so the developer can write code for a specific target (eg. the compass , fundamental for that use more than gps).
The version for windows mobile is old and not scalable for WVGA resolution , it freezes when you try to set your location ... the only work around is to set the VGA res. of the HD2 with a tool , but the graphic becomes orrible.
We have to wait for the next release to have this bug fixed , but anybody really thinks that Vito Tech. will spend time and money to fix an app for a dead OS like WM 6.5 , they will wait for WM7 , this's my opinion.
HD2 is the best at the moment ... but the apps written for this device are less than 20 , WM7 will give us the chance to have an increment of the apps for devices like HD2 , thanks to the elevation of the hw specifics required.
Bye

there's this one:
http://iwindowsmobile.com/astronavigator.html

shutdown said:
there's this one:
http://iwindowsmobile.com/astronavigator.html
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thanks the one i have, and have probs with

Yeah it works fine until you activate the GPS then it crashes... Quite a shame seeing as it used to work perfectly on the Diamond.

Stella Theater Pocket
I'm using Stella Theatre Pocket ver 1.30 and it works great on my Leo. Graphics is good, relatively finger friendly although the menu options are a bit small. Still easy to use with a lot of features.

pippopluto1970 said:
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HD2 is the best at the moment ... but the apps written for this device are less than 20 , WM7 will give us the chance to have an increment of the apps for devices like HD2 , thanks to the elevation of the hw specifics required.
Bye
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and that's written here...
in marketplace there's perhaps 20 apps... but there are 1000s of applications for 6.5 / hd2 (serious applications ) in the www and especially here at xda-devs...
And let's see if wm7 with all the restrictions will ever have a convenient marketplace. for wm6.5 you will find enough apps, if you only search for.And much are free,too.
So I don't see,that 6.5 is dead.and ms will still further develop it.
if you want to pay for the convenience not to search here or in google, then hope for wm7...or buy iPhone If you want an individual device with much apps but without a useful marketplace - then 6.5-device (btw: ever looked for "openmarket" ? )
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MichelDiamond said:
and that's written here...
in marketplace there's perhaps 20 apps... but there are 1000s of applications for 6.5 / hd2 (serious applications ) in the www and especially here at xda-devs...
And let's see if wm7 with all the restrictions will ever have a convenient marketplace. for wm6.5 you will find enough apps, if you only search for.And much are free,too.
So I don't see,that 6.5 is dead.and ms will still further develop it.
if you want to pay for the convenience not to search here or in google, then hope for wm7...or buy iPhone If you want an individual device with much apps but without a useful marketplace - then 6.5-device (btw: ever looked for "openmarket" ? )
sorry for this OT
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Microsoft marketplace is nothing respect Apple Store , everybody knows it ; but it doesn't matter , it has a lot of margins of improvement ...
About the 1000 serious apps for hd2 I don't see them , how many apps are really touch-oriented ???? Still pocket star 6.1 is a serious app but is not written for our device ...
How many geotagging apps for wm 6.5 are touch-oriented + use the compass and are for WVGA resolution ???
I'm sorry to say it , but microsoft is loosing a lot of piece of market either of devices than of software developers that are not encouraged to develope new apps for this os ...
Increasing the hw requirement to reach the ones into the HD2 is the only way to standardize the software and to improve it , device builder will expand the resolution of the new models , will use all the capacitivity tech for the screens that means touch-oriented ... and so on ; that's why I hope in new WM7 , just for that ... I don't believe it will change completely how to use a mobile device , but it will make something that sounds as standard , at the moment the Tytn II is still the most wm smartphone sold in Europe in hystorical selling , very distant from the HD2 , ehh ???

@pippopluto1970:
I agree with you, that Apple Store has a lot of margins of improvement, first.
E.G. they could relax the restrictions...
Second, there is one small difference, between the Apple and MS, and this is the principle:
IF, and only IF all of the smartphones will have SAME specification, you can think about the standard.
If you want to buy Apple phone, your choice will be: iPhone or IPhone. Of course, you can have third option: iPhone, but this is exclusive, for the chosen customers only. Very Wide range of models, indeed.
So, sorry, mate, but when I'll be bored by my HD2, I'd like to have some options, other than another HD2, maybe some new Samsung? Acer? Or whatever will be DIFFERENT.
Standardization was very good in the age of Ford-T, but later was not so effective.

spamtrash said:
Standardization was very good in the age of Ford-T, but later was not so effective.
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That's a rather silly generalization...
Would you like a pile of VHS and Betamax tapes? HD-DVDs and Blu-Rays? Of course not!
Standardization isn't always a good thing but it can be.

What a treasure this forum is !
I was desperately looking for an astronomy app (and I know HOW to google) and thanks ! You gave me the hint for Stella Theatre 1.3
Still would like to know if astronavigator definitely crashes on the HD2. Can u use download as trial and if it works THEN pay or do You have to pay before 1st launch ? (interface looks nice, would be willing to pay if it works flawless)

NeoGreendawg said:
That's a rather silly generalization...
Would you like a pile of VHS and Betamax tapes? HD-DVDs and Blu-Rays? Of course not!
Standardization isn't always a good thing but it can be.
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Of course, I'd like. I like to have DVD's copied into net HD, which I can play on any TV set in home, because watching BR on 20inches TV in the kitchen is pointless, while if I want to see the additional features, or if I want to see HD movie in living room, I'm using the BR disc.
Emmm... going to the PC, which I think is closer: I'm still preferring the PC with plenty of configurations and possibilities over the configurations and "wide" choice of dedicated features given by Apple iPad. Let's say: I'd like to expant or replace the HD, battery or graphic card.
Similarly, I prefer plenty of the mp3 players over the iPod choice (let's say: I don't want to instal few hundreds MB application, connected to the web, to upload one single mp3 to my device).
Going to the phones and your example:
What is the discussion about? If you'll like the standard, and don't want to have choice between options... well, first: Apple iPhone is the best for you.
Second: XDA principle, to CUSTOMIZE, and to develop new, breaking standards apps and features, is definitely not for you.
Why to choose between the plenty of calendars, if you already have one, standard, supplied with the phone?
Why to digg after the non-standard, modified, Today screen?
Why to look after additional, non-standard software?
All of the above, you have supplied in the beloved by you standard version, with the phone.
I hope, that above is detailed enough for you.

@spamtrash
You obviously can't read very well because I never said that I wanted everything to be standardized, I simply said that in some cases it was a good thing. You completely ignored my point about competing formats where one of the two eventually died out leaving early adopters with an expensive but worthless pile of junk.
Even your example about calendars is completely idiotic if you think about it in a larger sense... How would you go about your day to day business if it's Saturday, May 29th for you and Beetlebum, Camel the the oighteenth for someone else?
You're just another rebel without a cause who can't appreciate that some things are better off standardized.

@NeoGreendawg:
Sorry, but your approach that EVERYBODY needs the day to day business doing, particularly on the phone, is completely idiotic.
More idiotic is pointing that this is good that HD DVD died, leaving the monopoly of BD, without any competition, having the "only one proper" standard. The consequence is visible in the shops, that the BD discs are slightly more expensive now (when the standard is matured, but without the competitor) then it was previously, when HD DVD was on the next shelf.
And, finally, I'm not a rebel. I have grown in the country, where in the shops it was only one washing machine type, two or three car types (you can google and compare the differences between the Zaporozhetz, Lada 1300, Fiat 125p to have closer look on the choice in the late 70's and early 80's), two or three TV sets etc. I just have enough experience with the communism, when the Sun of Carpathia, Father of the Nation, or another idiot got an idea that everybody wants to have standardised thing.
Sadly for you, it was the Solidarnosc in Poland, Berlin Wall is crushed, and Ceaucescu has left his palace, not mentioning the there is no USRR anymore.
You must be sad ...

spamtrash said:
@NeoGreendawg:
Sorry, but your approach that EVERYBODY needs the day to day business doing, particularly on the phone, is completely idiotic.
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Yet again, learn how to read, I was extrapolating and not even speaking about the phone in what you are referring to... Secondly, without some standards (say working from 9 to 5) people wouldn't be able to get along with one another so easily and nobody would be as productive.
I also never said that HD-DVD or Betamax deserved to die out, but they did and it's not some disgruntled person from an ex-Soviet state who's looking for a utopia which simply doesn't exist like yourself who's going to bring them back (for better or worse)...
And third and finally, no, I'm not sad, I'm just angry that you're incapability to read and understand English has lead you to repeatedly misunderstand what I've been saying.
Anyway, we're way OT... Sorry about that. PM me if you want to continue this...

Sorry, but I don't communicate properly with the communists.
Secondary, I'd like to avoid the discussion to with the brain disabilities as advanced as yours, that they are thinking that the communism was only in the Soviet Union.
I don't know, maybe this is an education lack of geography in the Primary School, taken by the Greenpeace...
And: finally, sorry for my english, I live in UK since last 6mths only, invited by the silly company who want to break the standards and asked me to correct the way of thinking some of the company poorly educated staff... After all, if the RR personnel understands what I mean, there is still possibility, that you will as well, but start from the geography first. Then, maths maybe.

Thank you spam,
you made me laugh a lot so this is quite a good start in the day. Incredibly, you are turning a conversation about astronomy programs in an anticommunist-hate-race that would make old McCarthy smile - and by the way - yes saying that standardization CAN bring benefits sure is a true and real proof that Neo is one of these damned Commies ..... Gotta get your rifle, do you????

getting back on stream . . .
I like Pocket Stars:
http://nomadelectronics.com/PocketPC/PocketStars/default.aspx

Motive to port Garmin for Android...

OK guys, I've been waiting for some time now in order to see a working version of Garmin Mobile XT on Android devices (apart from the Garmin Asus ones)... Garmin doesnt seem to care (or has a good contract with Asus) to release the software for us poor Android's...
I thought of something that would possibly motivate the Capable ones to port this software for us. I would GLADLY donate 20 euro (about 26 usd) for a working copy of the software!
If there are any other Garmin junkies out there, lets join forces and try to give a little "push" to the devs able to do that!

I would kick in some money for a working version of Garmin too. I had it on my WinMo phone, and although it had its quirks, it was the best GPS app of several that I tried.

Is there no option to hi-jack it from a Nüvi phone?

dragunov said:
OK guys, I've been waiting for some time now in order to see a working version of Garmin Mobile XT on Android devices (apart from the Garmin Asus ones)... Garmin doesnt seem to care (or has a good contract with Asus) to release the software for us poor Android's...
I thought of something that would possibly motivate the Capable ones to port this software for us. I would GLADLY donate 20 euro (about 26 usd) for a working copy of the software!
If there are any other Garmin junkies out there, lets join forces and try to give a little "push" to the devs able to do that!
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Garmin software is property of Garmin so technically this is paying for Warez.
If you really want to have the software, Mass email garmin to sell it to other android phones.
Also TomTom might be coming to Android because of the large user base.
I always preferred TomTom for GPS systems anyways.

Skye Menjou said:
Garmin software is property of Garmin so technically this is paying for Warez.
If you really want to have the software, Mass email garmin to sell it to other android phones.
Also TomTom might be coming to Android because of the large user base.
I always preferred TomTom for GPS systems anyways.
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And?
Garmin is doing the stiff upper lip thingey, I have asked many times and no meaningfull reply, only we well inform you ,bla, bla...
Tom Tom is crap if you want/need Topo maps...

DigiMannen said:
And?
Garmin is doing the stiff upper lip thingey, I have asked many times and no meaningfull reply, only we well inform you ,bla, bla...
Tom Tom is crap if you want/need Topo maps...
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And? IT'S ILLEGAL. Not sure why there is any question as to why. Warez is illegal and therefor not allowed on these forums.

Agreed. Requesting for copies of software that can be obtained by purchasing it is considered warez. Thread closed.

windows 7 htc 7 pro

Hi long time no post
For the last few years I have been waiting patiently for a predecessor to the xda exec , none arrived so I decided to go for the new 7 pro as it seemed to be the closest I will ever get .
It arrived and I was absolutely chuffed HTC have outdone thierself. I have had it for less than a week and I am well miffed with it already . HTC and Microsoft haven't seemed to of talked with each other over this phone . My guess is this is exactly the same rom as the hd7 only a small amount of apps rotate when the keyboard is slid out basically text and web . Kind of pointless keyboard really .
I came to terms with this and decided not a problem then my next snag was I went out of signal and would not reaquire on its own . I turned on and off airplane mode ,it didn't make a difference. I removed the battery and replaced and got 3 bars straight away , I haven't had this problem since a Nokia 8210 !
The final straw was Monday I changed to nightshift so I set my alarm to wake me up guess what it didn't and i was late. to make it worse it completely muted my phone aswell. The cure was yet again removal and refit of battery. I thought maybe it was me so I tried again with back up this time my HTC diamond 6.5.1rev and It did the same again no sound only vibrate and muted phone again. out came the battery again.
I have decided to go iPhone which does miff me off as i have waited for Microsoft all this time when i should of switched right at the beginning .
My outcome of the whole ordeal is the phone itself is awesome.beats the iPhone hands down ,i am actually in love with it it is that good (except speaker in underside?) but Iam fed up with being a windows guinea pig

Also I am very disappointed with marketplace , I find it hard to beleive that there is zero Sat nav software available . I have always stuck to windows purely for that reason . The I phone has for me in the UK a free Prog called navfree and it ain't far desimilar to TomTom. What does market place have to offer no half decent freebies at all

I feel that the UK will be an iPhone only country except for some foolhardy old timers like myself who are deluding themselves. Microsoft need to put out some damn good software on market place for free. I don't think they have risen to the iPhone challenge at all

finghard said:
I feel that the UK will be an iPhone only country except for some foolhardy old timers like myself who are deluding themselves. Microsoft need to put out some damn good software on market place for free. I don't think they have risen to the iPhone challenge at all
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You can't be coming here criticising MS, the uber microites will be after you for blasphemy.....

we've gotten to a point of not really caring i think... this person has their point of view, that's fine. though it would of been better for him/her to do their homework before buying the device, but aye, i'm sure there is also cooling off period.
at the end of the day, if they're not happy with it, that's fine, swap it up for something you'll like and hopefully when that contract is up, Windows Phone will be at a point where it does meet your needs and you return. If not, all good, enjoy whatever phone you pick up.
Enough said?

The Gate Keeper said:
we've gotten to a point of not really caring i think... this person has their point of view, that's fine. though it would of been better for him/her to do their homework before buying the device, but aye, i'm sure there is also cooling off period.
at the end of the day, if they're not happy with it, that's fine, swap it up for something you'll like and hopefully when that contract is up, Windows Phone will be at a point where it does meet your needs and you return. If not, all good, enjoy whatever phone you pick up.
Enough said?
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Yep, no need to say anymore really, he tried it, didnt like it and moved on. Happens all the time and as mentioned, maybe one day WP7 will meet his needs, if not enjoy whatever does meet your needs.

In WP7s defence you really did get the worst WP7 device out there...

z33dev33l said:
In WP7s defence you really did get the worst WP7 device out there...
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In consideration of a qwerty keyboard, whats better?

I'd like to point out to the OP that the iPhone Appstore has been in existance for over 3 years... the WP7 marketplace has been available for only 4+ months...
You gotta give the developers some time to develop these good apps.
Be patient... As they say, Rome wasn't built in a day!

finghard said:
I feel that the UK will be an iPhone only country except for some foolhardy old timers like myself who are deluding themselves. Microsoft need to put out some damn good software on market place for free. I don't think they have risen to the iPhone challenge at all
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I think that the Nokia alliance will greatly help with Navigation and Marketplace issues overseas as Nokia already has a great variety of licenses and products over there that Microsoft will not utilize.
rhory said:
You can't be coming here criticising MS, the uber microites will be after you for blasphemy.....
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Your presence and constant sarcastic attitude are honestly making this forum so much less enjoyable for me, and I'm sure others as well... Jesus Christ, we get it, you don't like the phone, or the OS... You don't need to get into EVERY TOPIC and say it... or mock those who do like it...

kappo78 said:
In consideration of a qwerty keyboard, whats better?
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My DVP is amazing, be sure to get the 8 gig though and upgrade it up to 32 gigs as you see fit. The 16 gig is known to have issues though it seems to be SD card related. The quantum is good though the screens a bit small for my taste (I like 3.8+ inch screens) LG does have the best apps though.

finghard said:
Also I am very disappointed with marketplace , I find it hard to beleive that there is zero Sat nav software available . I have always stuck to windows purely for that reason . The I phone has for me in the UK a free Prog called navfree and it ain't far desimilar to TomTom. What does market place have to offer no half decent freebies at all
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Whats on the market place has little to do with Microsoft, please direct all moans to the likes of tomtom and garmin etc for not pulling their fingers out, they have had plenty of time and MS is usually very good for offering assistance on such matters.
Pitty you didnt have much luck with that, the OS is great, new hardware will be on the way in due course so hopefully things will get sorted soon, i dont suppose you tried another one did you? not beyond the realm of posibility that your device was in some way buggered.

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I think that the Nokia alliance will greatly help with Navigation and Marketplace issues overseas as Nokia already has a great variety of licenses and products over there that Microsoft will not utilize.
Your presence and constant sarcastic attitude are honestly making this forum so much less enjoyable for me, and I'm sure others as well... Jesus Christ, we get it, you don't like the phone, or the OS... You don't need to get into EVERY TOPIC and say it... or mock those who do like it...
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If I mocked you, you would know it, believe it. But that would probably go over your head, it usually does with blowhards.....

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