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GPS Tracking on Windows Mobile

Hi all, does anyone know if there is any software available to enable some sort of GPS tracking functionality using your windows phone. As im sure a lot of you know you can buy the little boxes that take a sim card and have a gps reciever built in and you can track them on tinternet. Is there any software which will do this using a windows mobile device witha built in GPS surely this would be a really really good feature.
Obviously to have a web based tracking feature someone would have to offer the server side, even if the app just uploaded location details in some sort of useable format like lat/lon or something to ftp every x mins or hours or something would.
Would be willing to pay if someone can make this.
Thanks all.
Rob.

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Sometimes i feel like my posts must be invisible or something, i never seem to get any replies. Maybe its my aftershave.

lot of things are there...search this forum.

I don't think so. I believe currently you can only track mobile phones via their registration with a base station, with varying degrees of accuracy.
GPS tracking still seems limited to specialist devices.
http://www.followus.co.uk/

Gajet said:
I don't think so. I believe currently you can only track mobile phones via their registration with a base station, with varying degrees of accuracy.
GPS tracking still seems limited to specialist devices.
http://www.followus.co.uk/
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Not so... http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=5
Terran

You may want to look at this....
I just found this in another thread, but it may be a solution to what you're looking for:
www.navizon.com
Justin

ccsnet Sorry can you be more specific with the line, ie the thread, I can't see what your are pointing at?

try this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25518&start=25

Re: try this one...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25518&start=25
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Indeed - I found that thred as well....
The link I left above refers to as software are where you will find a couple of GPS Tracking projects for CarPC's - one is planned to have a PPC client but if your that way inclined you could write your own and use that service.
Terran

What has the world come to?

I just got done reading a PM from someone who bought a used phone. And guess what they had on it, My Vanilla ROM.
Guys if you are going to sell your phones, please flash them back to factory. I dont think its smart to sell it with my rom or any other bleeding edge rom. These releases are still considered to be testing.

I understand your concerns and I agree...but I think that if we (as a community) are sharing ROM's...this is one of those things that is going to happen and we'll have to live with ya know...

agree with j3d1n4s7y (pain to copy out!lol)
and i agree with you nottoosmart.
if the seller didnt make it a selling point then, it shouldnt matter. but if the seller was saying 'oooo loooky here, wm6-rare!!!!!!buy me!' then the seller frankly is an idiot!

"What is the world coming to?" ?
Frankly, I don't see what the issue is. As long as the seller clearly indicates that the phone is running a third-party ROM, such as mUn's, then what's the problem? Undeniably, the person ought mention such information, but that's just an issue falling under the category of normal auction and commerce etiquette (i.e., that one should always disclose any major modifications made to a device).
Most people would be happy to get a phone pre-installed with mUn's ROM (regardless of what it's re-branded as). The functionality and stability of the mUn WM6 ROM you speak of are real and significant improvements over the OEM's ROMs.
This thread seems little more than public boasting.
cheers.
fluxist

fluxist said:
Frankly, I don't see what the issue is. As long as the seller clearly indicates that the phone is running a third-party ROM, such as mUn's, then what's the problem? Undeniably, the person ought mention such information, but that's just an issue falling under the category of normal auction and commerce etiquette (i.e., that one should always disclose any major modifications made to a device).
Most people would be happy to get a phone pre-installed with mUn's ROM (regardless of what it's re-branded as). The functionality and stability of the mUn WM6 ROM you speak of are real and significant improvements over the OEM's ROMs.
This thread seems little more than public boasting.
cheers.
fluxist
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much agreed

People are now SELLING the cooked roms...
Check out what I found on craigslist...
http://vancouver.craigslist.org/ele/294772477.html

not cheap either lool

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not cheap either lool
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I know... If I wasn't worrying about M$ getting up my ass, I'd sell your rom at a lower price than that guy and we can split the profits...

Selling cooked roms
OK, I guess I have to disagree with a lot of you folks here. I think it is a bad idea to sell cooked roms. The problem is with people who are new to pocket pc's and to WM5 and WM6. If you will remember, there is a learning curve to these devices, and the extra complexity of many cooked roms adds to the confusion. Also, where are they going to get help for their questions about WM6? or where do they turn to when their comm manager screen doesn't look like the one in the picture? Is the seller going to offer support? Likely not, probably they will refer them to this forum and they will end up PMing the rom chef indignantly, expecting their help.
Leave the stock rom in place. If you want to unlock the device, fine, but put it back the way you found it. That way the people who buy them know where to turn for support. (Microsoft, or the carrier).
Regards,

Make it Factory!
Heck even if you update to the original carriers latest rom, thats fine. You are doing the next guy a favor. But just think of it this way.
If you DONT flash it back to a factory rom, can you really be sure that you have removed all your personal info from the device?
Ever hear about the 100's of HDs that are bought and sold on ebay without being security wipped? Phone numbers, B-Days, eww its ripe for the identity thief.
If you have taken the time to unlock it and play with it, have the common courtesy to put it back to a carrier supported format.
btw Great rom there NTS

sellling cooked roms WTF?!

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sellling cooked roms WTF?!
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I second that!!!!!!

Here is another person selling on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:L:RTQ:CA:1&viewitem=&item=120106155132&rd=1
Updating Roms are great but they need support for what they have purchased.

lol i love it..some sorta powerseller this jackass is..
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Ok, let me state the issue with this......
I got 3 PM's through the forum about support of this. I know this sounds like me coping out on support, but I am not about to support someone who does not know anything or has not spent the time reading the posts here. Most of the PM's I get are from people who have done the research here and not just saying "BTW I bought a device with your ROM on it, can you help me do this or that"

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I got 3 PM's through the forum about support of this. I know this sounds like me coping out on support, but I am not about to support someone who does not know anything or has not spent the time reading the posts here. Most of the PM's I get are from people who have done the research here and not just saying "BTW I bought a device with your ROM on it, can you help me do this or that"
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I totally agree with this. Its very similar to the people that are seeing posts in PC Mag, and other places about WM6 roms for the wizard can be found here. They come here and start flashing before they even know what they are doing then start demanding (and yes I mean demanding) people to fix their phone they have now screwed up (I get numerous PM's from people that want me to be their personal support center and tell them step by step how to do things. Most of those PMs get deleted or I will point them to one of the how to threads and not answer further PMs from them. I'll continue to assist people that post in the forums, but am starting to ignore ones that its pretty obvious they haven't even tried looking before asking. I love the ones that ask for where to download a rom, and just a couple of posts above theirs is a link someone posted.

(For Australia)POI Files for Route 66)

Seriously I need your help guys, I have been looking and looking everywhere but could not find speed/red/or any other pois for route 66 for Australia, I have Tom tom Poi's(I use this with XDA) and Route 66 for standalone GPS, if someone wants them please let me know and also please if it is possible provide me with the above poi's for route 66- twice I have had the speed tickets- WOULD HELP ME ALOT.
Sorry Mod's If I have outraged any policies but please dont lock or delete this thread-IF you can help it
Garry

Why not have a look at www.pocketgpsworld.com as I know there are Aussy speed cameras on file and have a read of setting them up with spoken alerts on Route 66 it works very well - Mike

I have already done that mate!
They want Subscriptions etc, If you have the files, it is great, can you please email the same to me [email protected] ?
Thanks In advance

I don't think asking a moderator from the PGPSW site to "share" files is a smart move though, do you? - Mike

Sorry mate!
opps! hahaah funny, but I dont mind paying for it but little bit of sharing never hurted any one
I am still laughing.....

I really do think it is all about Money, you pay for something and then you pay to use it and then u keeps on paying for everything.
In this case keep on paying for updated Poi's..Everymonth...new one? If that is the case, then tell me why the hell you ask for free submissions of POI'S? Website should also pay for it...why don’t you, and even if you do, then why you ask for free ones?
Dont get me wrong I would pay, definitely pay or I should say 101% pay but not to your site but to sites like this one, people use it and together we get the feeling of unitedness.........Taking a volunteer part in something is way different then paying some individual fee....and yes, if you represent Route 66 yes, than I would understand why u are asking for money, I would be more than happy to pay to Original route 66 guys than someone else who is trying to pay advantage to it.
They developed the program, they deserve every bit of It.
And also by the way I have paid for not one but three GPS programs.
IF you disagree with my views, I completely understand and also do understand that I support copyrights
Today I found out a solution to XDA's default rongtone problem, I gave it away, according to your norm's...I should be charging for it as well?
If you don’t like my view please let me know n I would be out of here but if you support it, please do write. N also if I am creating controversies please let me know.
AND mod's please note that I am not supporting any copyright infringements or anything. Once again I would want to say I do not support illegal software.

Perhaps you should also understand that the job of database updates and maintenance required the appointment of a full time member of staff as the task had grown beyond the "Home Hobby" it also costs money to host a web site as the owners of this site will, I am sure, agree.
You are also offered the chance of free lifetime membership, all you need to do is report new fixed camera locations, once these are independently verified as correct you will be given free membership for life, this can (and will be removed) if camera files from the site are found on torrent/ warez sites, when traced back to any specific individual.
As the database is growing in Australia you stand quite a good chance of earning a free life time subscription, and before you ask, yes we do have people out there to verify submissions.
The choice is yours, I wouldn't trust a camera database from a torrent site as quite often they can contain duff information - each to their own though - Mike

hey why are you using route 66, tomtoms alot better and alot more upto date for aussie maps.

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st3v3 said:
hey why are you using route 66, tomtoms alot better and alot more upto date for aussie maps.
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I use Tom tom for My XDA and for Stanalone GPS Sirf 3775 samsung I am using Route 66.....Once in a blue moon I also end up using I go!!!!
According to me:
Route 66- Way better instructions- ****ty in trying to find location-(Was)hard to find files
Tom tom- Many voices-Easy to navigate-but no so clear instructions.....Way easier to find the files
But I have found a way to solve that problem too.
Anyways thanks guys for your help

Turn by turn maps Vs Google

Anyone else absolutely HATE the Google setup? I can simply go to the site and pull up the same directions. If I make a wrong turn however, I am done for. Need to pull over, recalculate where I am etc...
Also it is a major PITA that if I go out of the service area, I am flying blind...
So what have people heard as a time frame for a Garmin/TomTom style setup? I hear people are "working on it" but other than AndNav which isn't real time, nothing is out yet. This is fairly important as I run a DJ company and am always going into the unknown....
Just sitting here debating on picking up an independent GPS or waiting it out (if that meant a few weeks)

I am also in the same boat, but to repeat what others have yelled at me- "if you dont like it, build it yourself" Keep in mind I dont agree, but the fanboys will surely flame posts like this that complain about their precious Android's lack of common sense

I don't mind paying for it... just want it!

gospeed.racer said:
Android's lack of common sense
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It's licensing, not "common sense". Most of the data in Google maps is licensed from companies that have also sold it to companies like TomTom and Garmin. Of course they're not idiots and put the equivalent of a non-competitive clause in the license contract.
AndNav is actually coming along quite nicely. The version on the market is still based on Google maps, so no real-time. AndNav2 is only on his site right now, http://www.andnav.org/. There's a fundraiser going on to launch a US server. So if you're interested in having it, donate and help the cause.

momentarylapseofreason said:
Anyone else absolutely HATE the Google setup? I can simply go to the site and pull up the same directions. If I make a wrong turn however, I am done for. Need to pull over, recalculate where I am etc...
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No one's holding you at gunpoint forcing you to use it. If you don't like it stop using it.

I spent $170 on a Navigon GPS unit so I have turn-by-turn directions but it has almost no POIs in its database. Now, I have the G1 with all the POIs in Google and no turn-by-turn directions and the Navigon with no POIs but with turn-by-turn. It's ridiculous and I'm out what I would have spent in software for the one device I REALLY want to carry with me - my smartphone.
So I have to do all the legwork looking up a POI on my phone, get the directions, set up the GPS, manually punch in the address and then get going to it. I should be able to just buy nav software for the phone that lets me look up contacts/POIs on my phone, click "Navigate To" and have the phone tell me when to turn and what the traffic looks like on the way there.
There is ONE guy who is creating a turn-by-turn nav system for the G1. Go to Andnav.org and check it out. He currently has the V1 program in the market but it uses Google maps and is suffering from the legal setbacks of using that. His V2 program is going to use OpenStreetMap but the street data sucks compared to TeleNav and Navteq.
I gave him a $25 donation and hopefully more people will do so to get the US server up and running.

jashsu said:
No one's holding you at gunpoint forcing you to use it. If you don't like it stop using it.
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Interesting response
How about running in front of a train

I wouldn't mind donating to AndNav. However, he plans on selling the software last I heard. This means donating and then buying the software? Sorry, but seems a little redundant.
The morons saying "build it yourself" should just shut their mouths. I have a job, and it's not in programming. That's why I pay others for that work as others pay me to write music.

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Interesting response
How about running in front of a train
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momentarylapseofreason: Doctor, my leg hurts when I do this!
doctor: Then stop doing that.
momentarylapseofreason: Interesting response. How about running in front of a train.

jashsu said:
momentarylapseofreason: Doctor, my leg hurts when I do this!
doctor: Then stop doing that.
momentarylapseofreason: Interesting response. How about running in front of a train.
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Perhaps your mother might give you that response. A doctor would not. If I tell a doctor my knee hurts while walking on it, will he tell me to stop? He will diagnose and treat it. Your argument is horrible.
Not saying that the built in software "hurts" me, rather that I need something better.
So now, go play in another thread that pertains to you.

told ya so
The people on here just cant get it in their head that we BOUGHT the phone (who cares if the software was "free", we still BOUGHT it as a package) and some stuff DONT work. Google is not doing what they can to help, instead they are releasing software like "scoreboard" and updates that are planned seem to consist of multi-language support. NOT stuff that will help us with our problems.
Gotta run and grab my fireproof suit.....

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The people on here just cant get it in their head that we BOUGHT the phone (who cares if the software was "free", we still BOUGHT it as a package) and some stuff DONT work.
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Doesn't work based on what definition? If you say "Maps on Android doesn't work because it doesn't do my taxes" or more realistically "Maps on Android doesn't work because it can't provide realtime directions", what are you basing that judgement on? I feel like this argument is getting rehashed over and over again and it's kind of getting depressing that folks still haven't got it into their heads.
YOU RECEIVED THE PRODUCT THAT WAS ADVERTISED. If the box or any of T-Mo's advertising said "It can do realtime navigation out of the box" then yes you are qualified to say "it doesn't work". If you just assumed that it could do X and Y out of the box or you feel like it should but it doesn't, that doesn't mean the product "doesn't work", it means you should have bought a different product.

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Doesn't work based on what definition? If you say "Maps on Android doesn't work because it doesn't do my taxes" or more realistically "Maps on Android doesn't work because it can't provide realtime directions", what are you basing that judgement on? I feel like this argument is getting rehashed over and over again and it's kind of getting depressing that folks still haven't got it into their heads.
YOU RECEIVED THE PRODUCT THAT WAS ADVERTISED. If the box or any of T-Mo's advertising said "It can do realtime navigation out of the box" then yes you are qualified to say "it doesn't work". If you just assumed that it could do X and Y out of the box or you feel like it should but it doesn't, that doesn't mean the product "doesn't work", it means you should have bought a different product.
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My Trans Am wasn't a 9 second car out of the box.... I don't care if Pontiac came out with the parts or someone else. It's been built by me and others to do so over time.
All I am saying it that I bought the Trans Am and the G1 knowing what they have. Now I just want to buy upgrades.
Now why do you insist on being the kettle and complaining about complaints moron? You offer NOTHING to this thread.

momentarylapseofreason said:
Now I just want to buy upgrades.
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"I just want to buy upgrades" would be "Hey does anyone have any word on a realtime turn-by-turn navigation app?" not "Anyone else absolutely HATE the Google setup? [...] Also it is a major PITA that if I go out of the service area, I am flying blind..."
You offer NOTHING to this thread.
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Kinda like how this thread offers nothing to the forum? Read your original post. I'll summarize it if you are too lazy: "Waaah Maps doesn't do exactly what I want it to do. I heard people are already hard at work to create a solution but I don't care. Waaah! P.S. I know I should probably delete this post and buy a Garmin but I think i'll post it instead." {paraphrased}

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XDA Flint - Impossible to buy :(

HI,
Has anyone been able to get there hands on a rebadged XDA Flint?
I have been calling O2 everyday for over a week, no one on there sales / upgrades team has any idea this device even exists. They have no information about it, when it will be available, how much it will cost. Nothing.
There website says it is available and on myxda site its the first device you see.
The shop section will allow you to add to basket but 404`s when trying to pay / enter details.
Has anyone got any information from them or know when I can get my hands on this!?
Thanks,
Embassy

O2 the great pain. The saga conntinues.
This device is only available online and to NEW business customers only.
I have now spent over 3 1/2 hours in total trying to do one of two things.
Either upgrade my contract to a Business package or close it and re open a new acccount under a business tarrif.
This seems just a little to complicated for O2. I have been passed from department to department.
They all say they cant do what I request and pass me on to another team, I work in a call center enviroment myself and it is becoming painfully ovious that these agents simply do not want to handle my call, most likely as they are scored on there call durations.
I will update this IF and when I finally manage to get this device.
O2 better get there finger out, there getting one more try and im taking the 5 phones on my contract to orange and will get the HD instead.
I warn you, if you want this device on O2 be prepared for a up hill strugle with there phone system and there staff.
Anyone know of another provider offering the X7510?

O2 are unusual in that the Online, Offline, Personal and Business departments operate as separate entities, so transferring between them is difficult or impossible.
Also, it is common for new devices to be unavailable for upgrades for some time after they are available to new customers.
Interestingly, the price of the Flint has risen from a fixed £179 on all tariffs in early December to a sliding scale starting at £279 now, and all contracts are 24 months.
There is no doubt the Flint is a good device- I was one of the pre-release testers. However it is not a major step forward over the X7500/Ameo, and really suffers for the lack of hardware buttons, and also an older implementation of WM6.1 than more mainstream devices.

T-Mobile offers the x7510 (branded as the Ameo)

x7510 = t-mobile ameo 16gb

Buy an O2 XDA Flint
Hi,
I had the same problem when I tried to get a Flint for myself.
I got through to a [Mod Edit: e-mail address removed for respect to personal privacy] who actioned it for me under a personal account - (from Customer Relations)
Just email him & he'll hopefully sort 1 out for you mate.
Hope this helps...
embassy said:
HI,
Has anyone been able to get there hands on a rebadged XDA Flint?
I have been calling O2 everyday for over a week, no one on there sales / upgrades team has any idea this device even exists. They have no information about it, when it will be available, how much it will cost. Nothing.
There website says it is available and on myxda site its the first device you see.
The shop section will allow you to add to basket but 404`s when trying to pay / enter details.
Has anyone got any information from them or know when I can get my hands on this!?
Thanks,
Embassy
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Explodingfist said:
Hi,
I had the same problem when I tried to get a Flint for myself.
I got through to a [Mod Edit: e-mail address removed for respect to personal privacy] who actioned it for me under a personal account - (from Customer Relations)
Just email him & he'll hopefully sort 1 out for you mate.
Hope this helps...
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"So, Mr Robinson, what did you get for Christmas?
"Well, a customer I went out of way to help went and posted my e-mail address on XDA-Developers.com, and for Christmas I got a deluge of SPAM. Well, as you know, SPAM is not just for Christmas..."
Ouch! What a way to thank a guy!

Oops!
NanoRuler said:
"So, Mr Robinson, what did you get for Christmas?
"Well, a customer I went out of way to help went and posted my e-mail address on XDA-Developers.com, and for Christmas I got a deluge of SPAM. Well, as you know, SPAM is not just for Christmas..."
Ouch! What a way to thank a guy!
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To be quite fair I don't understand why they only honour this on Business tariffs!
But Oops, you're right there Nano, and didn't realise that actually and I'm very sorry. I was stressed out for you guys not being able to get the device so I was only trying to help...
- Thanks for pointing that out NanoRuler

Explodingfist said:
To be quite fair I don't understand why they only honour this on Business tariffs!
But Oops, you're right there Nano, and didn't realise that actually and I'm very sorry Mark Robinson. So guys if you're emailing him plz don't mention my name. I was stressed out for you guys not being able to get the device so I was only trying to help...
So don't mention me guys - Thanks for pointing that out NanoRuler
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It might be wise for you (and nanoruler in his quoted post) to edit out the O2 guy's email address- if you want to assist people, they could always PM yopu for the address.
There are a lot of bots out there combing sites,and harvesting email addresses to add to spam lists.

NanoRuler said:
T-Mobile offers the x7510 (branded as the Ameo)
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Is it in UK yet? It was originally only in Germany, and doesn't appear on T-Mobile's UK site at present.

It's been available in the UK for quite some time now. My x7510 is an Ameo.

good suggestion Neil. Can you help instruct me how to omit out the address
Much appreciated

Explodingfist said:
good suggestion Neil. Can you help instruct me how to omit out the address
Much appreciated
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The moderator,kyphur has already done it for you
Anyway, if you look at any of your old posts, you should be able to see a box called Edit in the bottom right of the message frame. Just click this to open an Edit box.

I bought my XDA Flint on eBay for £470.

Still no joy with this, absolute nightmare.
Now being told the only way to get this on o2 is to change to downgrade to pay a go from a standard consumer account and then upgrade to business.
This doesn’t add up with being told I can negotiate a free handset as I have been a long standing customer.
It’s looking like I need to make a complaint to get this resolved.
With regards to eBay, I have never paid for a phone / pda in my life.

Neither have I really. Not fully anyway. The way to do it is to upgrade to the most valuable handset you can for free or by paying as little as possible, then sell it as brand new for a shedload of cash. Use that cash towards the purchase of the handset you really want.
The trick is to sell it on again before it goes too commercial i.e. before it goes to the big network providers. That way it will retain most of it's original value, and you can put the cash you make towards the next new thing, again before that hits the networks. You'll still get your default upgrade too. Just upgrade for free again to a valuable device and sell it on. Then you have two pots of cash to use towards a new power toy every 12/18/24 months (depending on your contract). Gotta stay one step ahead! This isn't too difficult because, at least as far as HTC are concerned, their devices are released by them about 6 months before the networks get hold of them and stick all their ugly badges and buggy software on them!
I was a bit slower with the Flint, as the Advantage x7510 was far too expensive anyway beforehand. I just gave into temptation, even though O2 and T-Mobile already have their hands on it. Hopefully, it's value won't depreciate too much in the next 6-12 months.

Got my new XDA Flint for FREE!!! (hee-hee)
I just got my new XDA Flint but am afraid of starting it up. Will it try to install an O2 HMI instead of the normal WM 6?
This forum helped with my XDA Exec with WM5 by providing me the corporate number to overide the O2 HMI.
Can anyone help please?
I got this as a new upgrade plus I reduced my monthly costs on my business tarrif with their new small business tarrif...sweet!!!

There is no 'Corporate Mode' option on the Flint- all installations are the same.
However, there is no O2 customised front end. In fact there is no front end at all, as O2 do not include HTC Home in the build.
The release ROM for the Flint is a good one- newer than the cooked ROMs, and is fast and reliable.
If you use it with a non-O2 SIM, you will need to manually enter the connection details as it doesn't include HTC Connection Manager.

Thank you NeilM!
NeilM,
Thank you very much for your help.
So I should have done the full install instead of skip it? Ooops? I will do a hard reset then and start over. The quick start guide says I can make video calls....is this true in WM6 I thought this was not supported?
My next task is to see if I can port the Tom Tom license over to this PDA. Then put an SPB front end unless anyone has a better suggestion?
As you can tell I am behind the times - it has been a long time since I upgraded from the XDA Exec (2005 - which has always been rock solid and reliable) and the Flint fits my purpose of a mobile office whilst going to clients facilities. This Flint in a small briefcase and a note book makes my commutes to clients a breeze. I see other consultants with giant ruck sacks and 20 million gadgets/laptops notes books etc and I pop out with this thing, my mobile phone, a leather note book and I am ready. I did not get the Flint to be a phone. My problem with Blackberry's are the keyboards are too small for my fingers and Blackberries dont have MSWord and Excel apps to create/edit information and the Flint has a video out so I can show PPT presentations on sales calls. If only MSFT could allow creation/editing of PPT...that would be a result. (Suggestions anyone?)
Also, does anyone know if there is an Open Source application for pushmail as my company run Linux servers and was looking to see if one existed to mimic the push of mail instead of the Flint constantly checking, thereby saving power. (In no way am I trying to avoid the MSFT push mail solution, I just want to know if another exists as Open Source)
Don't reply if any of the above has already been discussed in this forum. I should do the work to find out the info. However, I did not find too many Flint threads on this forum so I do not know if there are SW or HW nuances that need to be considered.
Thanks to all!

No problems with the questions! The Flint/X7510 is sufficiently 'rare' that there are few comprehensive answers out there, though it is very similar to the X7500.
You definitely need to hard reset (Settings/System/Clear Storage) as a lot of essentialstuff gets installed from the supplementary installation (Opera, JetsetPrint etc)
The O2 theme is very blue as you would expect, but there is absolutely no other O2 stuff apart from the O2 Connection mamnager which configures the settings for whichever O2 provider you are with. If you use another operatorSIM, you will have to enter the settings manually, but this is not difficult.
For using as a presentation tool, I'd advise buying the enhanced output cable (unless it is already supplied)as it includes a USB host connector and an RCA Video Output. The USB can be used with an external mouse/keyboard (even a wireless combo) or a pen drive if needed.
If you are serious about needing Powerpoint presentations, and don't mind spending a bit of cash, then I can highly recommend Softmaker Office. It is expensive at €70 but has 3 programs which are respectively fully compatible with desktop versions of MS Word, Excel and Powerpoint. You can create, edit and read any file on the WinMo device, and can even print to PDF format.
For a front end, I think Spb Mobile Shell is an excellent choice, especially in combination with PocketPlus (but you need 4.03 Beta available from the SpbClub forums). You may also need to look at an extra Soft Keyboard, as the Flint only includes the basic MS ones. Cootek Touchpal and Spb Keyboard are both good options.
Video calls have been supported in all 3G Windows Mobile devices, from WM5 onwards- not sure where you got the info about WM6, but that is not the case! Maybe you were reading about US versions of the X7501 which some companies insisted on their users utilising- this had the front camera removed for security reasons (supposedly!). Obviously both parties need a decent 3G signal but it works well. The Flint runs WM6.1 and has good video capabilities.
TomTom- how old is your version? If more than a year it would pay you to buy the current version with its updated maps- currently on offer at £30 for UK and £40 for Europe. If not, then TomTom will supply you with a new activation code. If you have only used one previous activation, you can go to www.ttcode.com, enter your map's product ID and your new phone's Device ID, and it will generate a new activation code. If you've already used your activations, then email TT support with a proof of purchase for the Flint and they might provide a new code. Beware though that if they deem the Flint as unsupported, they may not give you a code.
For 'quick and dirty' location, then the new MS Live Search V4 or Google Maps work well, though the GPS does take up to 5 miunutes for a 1st fix (subsequent fixes are quicker).
Hope this helps!