GPS Tracking on Windows Mobile - General Topics

Hi all, does anyone know if there is any software available to enable some sort of GPS tracking functionality using your windows phone. As im sure a lot of you know you can buy the little boxes that take a sim card and have a gps reciever built in and you can track them on tinternet. Is there any software which will do this using a windows mobile device witha built in GPS surely this would be a really really good feature.
Obviously to have a web based tracking feature someone would have to offer the server side, even if the app just uploaded location details in some sort of useable format like lat/lon or something to ftp every x mins or hours or something would.
Would be willing to pay if someone can make this.
Thanks all.
Rob.

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Sometimes i feel like my posts must be invisible or something, i never seem to get any replies. Maybe its my aftershave.

lot of things are there...search this forum.

I don't think so. I believe currently you can only track mobile phones via their registration with a base station, with varying degrees of accuracy.
GPS tracking still seems limited to specialist devices.
http://www.followus.co.uk/

Gajet said:
I don't think so. I believe currently you can only track mobile phones via their registration with a base station, with varying degrees of accuracy.
GPS tracking still seems limited to specialist devices.
http://www.followus.co.uk/
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Not so... http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=5
Terran

You may want to look at this....
I just found this in another thread, but it may be a solution to what you're looking for:
www.navizon.com
Justin

ccsnet Sorry can you be more specific with the line, ie the thread, I can't see what your are pointing at?

try this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25518&start=25

Re: try this one...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25518&start=25
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Indeed - I found that thred as well....
The link I left above refers to as software are where you will find a couple of GPS Tracking projects for CarPC's - one is planned to have a PPC client but if your that way inclined you could write your own and use that service.
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(For Australia)POI Files for Route 66)

Seriously I need your help guys, I have been looking and looking everywhere but could not find speed/red/or any other pois for route 66 for Australia, I have Tom tom Poi's(I use this with XDA) and Route 66 for standalone GPS, if someone wants them please let me know and also please if it is possible provide me with the above poi's for route 66- twice I have had the speed tickets- WOULD HELP ME ALOT.
Sorry Mod's If I have outraged any policies but please dont lock or delete this thread-IF you can help it
Garry
Why not have a look at www.pocketgpsworld.com as I know there are Aussy speed cameras on file and have a read of setting them up with spoken alerts on Route 66 it works very well - Mike
I have already done that mate!
They want Subscriptions etc, If you have the files, it is great, can you please email the same to me [email protected] ?
Thanks In advance
I don't think asking a moderator from the PGPSW site to "share" files is a smart move though, do you? - Mike
Sorry mate!
opps! hahaah funny, but I dont mind paying for it but little bit of sharing never hurted any one
I am still laughing.....
I really do think it is all about Money, you pay for something and then you pay to use it and then u keeps on paying for everything.
In this case keep on paying for updated Poi's..Everymonth...new one? If that is the case, then tell me why the hell you ask for free submissions of POI'S? Website should also pay for it...why don’t you, and even if you do, then why you ask for free ones?
Dont get me wrong I would pay, definitely pay or I should say 101% pay but not to your site but to sites like this one, people use it and together we get the feeling of unitedness.........Taking a volunteer part in something is way different then paying some individual fee....and yes, if you represent Route 66 yes, than I would understand why u are asking for money, I would be more than happy to pay to Original route 66 guys than someone else who is trying to pay advantage to it.
They developed the program, they deserve every bit of It.
And also by the way I have paid for not one but three GPS programs.
IF you disagree with my views, I completely understand and also do understand that I support copyrights
Today I found out a solution to XDA's default rongtone problem, I gave it away, according to your norm's...I should be charging for it as well?
If you don’t like my view please let me know n I would be out of here but if you support it, please do write. N also if I am creating controversies please let me know.
AND mod's please note that I am not supporting any copyright infringements or anything. Once again I would want to say I do not support illegal software.
Perhaps you should also understand that the job of database updates and maintenance required the appointment of a full time member of staff as the task had grown beyond the "Home Hobby" it also costs money to host a web site as the owners of this site will, I am sure, agree.
You are also offered the chance of free lifetime membership, all you need to do is report new fixed camera locations, once these are independently verified as correct you will be given free membership for life, this can (and will be removed) if camera files from the site are found on torrent/ warez sites, when traced back to any specific individual.
As the database is growing in Australia you stand quite a good chance of earning a free life time subscription, and before you ask, yes we do have people out there to verify submissions.
The choice is yours, I wouldn't trust a camera database from a torrent site as quite often they can contain duff information - each to their own though - Mike
hey why are you using route 66, tomtoms alot better and alot more upto date for aussie maps.
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st3v3 said:
hey why are you using route 66, tomtoms alot better and alot more upto date for aussie maps.
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I use Tom tom for My XDA and for Stanalone GPS Sirf 3775 samsung I am using Route 66.....Once in a blue moon I also end up using I go!!!!
According to me:
Route 66- Way better instructions- ****ty in trying to find location-(Was)hard to find files
Tom tom- Many voices-Easy to navigate-but no so clear instructions.....Way easier to find the files
But I have found a way to solve that problem too.
Anyways thanks guys for your help

Barcode Pricing App

Hi all,
I have been using BarcodeZilla for a while now based on a recommendation from a friend, but I have to say I'm disappointed with it. The final straw being that I have just scanned a PS3 game (Call of Duty) and although it recognised it, it could not retrieve any pricing information. I think this defeats the object of the application; I want to be able to see something in the shop and make sure it's a bargain before I buy it.
So... what do you guys recommend as a better alternative??
Thanks in advance,
Baloo
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Hi all,
I have been using BarcodeZilla for a while now based on a recommendation from a friend, but I have to say I'm disappointed with it. The final straw being that I have just scanned a PS3 game (Call of Duty) and although it recognised it, it could not retrieve any pricing information. I think this defeats the object of the application; I want to be able to see something in the shop and make sure it's a bargain before I buy it.
So... what do you guys recommend as a better alternative??
Thanks in advance,
Baloo
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I doubt any barcode scanner could have that function... That is how every other barcode scanner works. If I am correct in my thinking, the price of the item is unique to each store, while the barcode is the same, so basically, the barcode can represent a different price dependent on the meaning coded into the store's system.
Sorry for not being clearer - I want to compare prices to internet sites such as Amazon, so I can see prices elsewhere before I buy in a store.
Thanks for the quick reply
id love an app like this. surely there must be something out there........
donwhann said:
id love an app like this. surely there must be something out there........
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As I understand it, that is what BarcodeZilla is supposed to do. Although it tries to get prices from Froogle (Google's shopping channel). But in my experience, it doesn't do it for everything.
this mite be what your looking for...
i cant post outside links as im a new user so search omarket for 'mobiletag'
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this mite be what your looking for...
i cant post outside links as im a new user so search omarket for 'mobiletag'
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Absolutely spot on, thanks
Mobiletag only searches .com sites. How do you get it to search .co.uk sites ?
So many applications can implement such functions, Zxing's barcode Scanner is OK.

is their a app that can make you pick up wifi from a longer distance!!!!

is there a app that can help pick up wifi in a longer distance or boost up the wifi range from were u stand an were can i get it or it don't exist an do xda have the app point me to that direction thank you
distance is a hardware limitation to wifi, only fiddling with the phones internals would yield better results (not been proven nor is there a guide)
as for XDA
just search for XDA on the market?
thank you
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distance is a hardware limitation to wifi, only fiddling with the phones internals would yield better results (not been proven nor is there a guide)
as for XDA
just search for XDA on the market?
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there was rumors floating around of a app that improve your wifi distance i was trying to see if its real or possible thank you
The Wi-fi is dependent on several things, including the hardware of your phone, the hardware of the Wi-fi station, the software on the phone and other things that might include the connection too, i.e a lot of stuff in the way or another device blocking the signals.
You could maybe squeez a bit more distance if you are at a place where there arent much items or devices nearby and it's a open place, like a town square without any people there. Other than that there isn't much that you can do about it.
About the XDA-application. There is a app that's called XDA-Developers in the Market. It's uploaded with the user xda-developers, and is easily found by searching xda and scrolling till you find it.
You could also use tapatalk, if I don't remember wrong, that allows you to browse a lot of forums, including xda.
THANK YOU
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the wi-fi is dependent on several things, including the hardware of your phone, the hardware of the wi-fi station, the software on the phone and other things that might include the connection too, i.e a lot of stuff in the way or another device blocking the signals.
You could maybe squeez a bit more distance if you are at a place where there arent much items or devices nearby and it's a open place, like a town square without any people there. Other than that there isn't much that you can do about it.
About the xda-application. There is a app that's called xda-developers in the market. It's uploaded with the user xda-developers, and is easily found by searching xda and scrolling till you find it.
You could also use tapatalk, if i don't remember wrong, that allows you to browse a lot of forums, including xda.
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thank you but if some body ever come up with a app like that they will make a killing in some money if a app could go out a longer distance like my wifi box at home i just thought about it an saw some rumors but ok

[Q] modifying .apk

I am not a developer, while I seem to have more knowledge than the daily user, I do not have the knowledge base to attempt the project that I am curious about. I work for a local tow company as AAA tow truck driver. AAA has provided all its contract stations with an android device that runs an app that is basically a native interface for a web based portal for dispatching the calls. To make a long story short if I were to log into the web interface from my E4GT I can view the dispatched calls ok and the office seems to be able to track me ok, but the native app on the AAA device seems to be able to update statuses while the web interface doesn't seem to actually send the information. I got a hold of the native app apk file and it installed ok, however it asks for a user name that the web interface does not ask for. I assume that this is to prevent people (like me ) from installing on devices that weren't approved by AAA. I was wondering if perhaps there was a way to modify the program to skip this step and allow me to move right in to the log in. If anyone can point me in the direction of someone who may be able to undertake this project for me, I know several people who would rather use their own devices than the AAA device which we are held financially responsible for if it ever is broken or lost. If I were able to run it on my device I could toss their device in a drawer where it will stay safe until I need to return it. Please help. I included the .apk file if anyone is interested in giving this a go.
The likelihood is that modifying this original app in any way works break the law.
AAA obviously paid for the app to be developed and they will own the rights to it.
I suspect that your request breaks the rules of XDA.
The app was downloaded fire free with no copyright permissions agreed to at this location. (I tried to post a link but I guess in too new, I have it tho if you need evidence] therefore I would assume no laws were broken. That web page is the web based program and allows you to download the app without agreeing to anything.
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Mark1537 said:
The app was downloaded fire free with no copyright permissions agreed to at this location. (I tried to post a link but I guess in too new, I have it tho if you need evidence] therefore I would assume no laws were broken. That web page is the web based program and allows you to download the app without agreeing to anything.p
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You can post a link by sticking it in as clear text, with no 'http://' if you really need to.
Just because you are able to download it for free doesn't mean there are no inherent copyright and licences - you will often find them as part of the installation procedure.
OK here's the link. d3me.ersace.com/d3me/htmls/index.jsp
The AAA servers have been having issues over the last couple days so the website seems to be down right now. It actually has been making with really tough because all or calls are being dispatched late and customers aren't happy. But there were no permissions on the installation either. It installed fast and asked for a user ID that I'm assuming belongs to someone in their tech dept. That's all.
After that it should go straight to the contract station and driver log in.
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The website is up again. Feel free to check it out. I've been trying to get a hold of someone from AAA to talk about getting me a log on, but I have no response. I can't see how they could object to me using software that they want me to use. I just don't want to risk the device that they are holding me responsible for. Aside from the fact that I don't want to carry multiple devices around. I don't want to break any laws, but there doesn't seen to be any restrictions on this particular app.
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Mark1537 said:
The website is up again. Feel free to check it out. I've been trying to get a hold of someone from AAA to talk about getting me a log on, but I have no response. I can't see how they could object to me using software that they want me to use. I just don't want to risk the device that they are holding me responsible for. Aside from the fact that I don't want to carry multiple devices around. I don't want to break any laws, but there doesn't seen to be any restrictions on this particular app.
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The website seems to be back down again, at least as far as I can tell.
I just checked it this moment. And it's up.
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Mark1537 said:
I just checked it this moment. And it's up.
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Yeah, just discovered that it's an https:// not an http:// link
By pressing ACCEPT, you agree not to use this application while operating a motor vehicle, and agree to the other limitations with respect to the use of this application as described in the accompanying materials.
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That would be implicit to the software as well, so I would assume that the 'accompanying materials' probably includes their restrictions of use.
Regardless, I can't see you getting anywhere without the username and password. I reckon that social engineering is likely to be more successful than hacking the app, but I may be proved wrong.
I'm finally getting some response from AAA, it was a handbook given during the training for the software. I have read through it and an struggling to find anything regarding the licensing or copyright infringement. I don't deny the ethical gray area that I am standing in, I am just trying to make my working life easier. If I can accomplish the task through the proper means by acquiring a log in of my own I will do that, I was just wondering if the same results could be achieved through alternative means.
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Mark1537 said:
I'm finally getting some response from AAA, it was a handbook given during the training for the software. I have read through it and an struggling to find anything regarding the licensing or copyright infringement. I don't deny the ethical gray area that I am standing in, I am just trying to make my working life easier. If I can accomplish the task through the proper means by acquiring a log in of my own I will do that, I was just wondering if the same results could be achieved through alternative means.
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Hi I know this is a little old but my station just up graded to the tablets also so I am in the same boat now and was wondering if you where able to get any further with this
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Hi I know this is a little old but my station just up graded to the tablets also so I am in the same boat now and was wondering if you where able to get any further with this
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Noboy was willing to help either here or at AAA, however; if you are a reliable driver that doesn't need to be tracked everywhere that you go, justmake sure that your dispatch tells you when they send you a call and the web link will work. It will even track you if you leave it runnng. But there is no alert sound. So if dispatch just sends calls and doesn't tell you, its no good. Luckily I have been able to just deal with it for now. I'm extra careful with their device, and hopefully nothing will happen. But the tablets...... that sems pricey.
Mark1537 said:
Noboy was willing to help either here or at AAA, however; if you are a reliable driver that doesn't need to be tracked everywhere that you go, justmake sure that your dispatch tells you when they send you a call and the web link will work. It will even track you if you leave it runnng. But there is no alert sound. So if dispatch just sends calls and doesn't tell you, its no good. Luckily I have been able to just deal with it for now. I'm extra careful with their device, and hopefully nothing will happen. But the tablets...... that sems pricey.
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To say "Noboy was willing to help either here or..." is rather unfair. Nobody here would have any benefit from modifying the application to do what you wished, even if they did want to get involved in the legal gray area, and you can't exactly expect a developer to simply spend hours or days taking an app apart in the hope of modifying it when there is no real reason for them to do so.
Your best bet always was, and still is, to go back to AAA and ask them. If enough of the drivers start doing so they may consider allowing installation on a different device - although they may demand the device by sent to them first for the installation so they can pre-enter the required log-on information.
not an insult.
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To say "Noboy was willing to help either here or..." is rather unfair. Nobody here would have any benefit from modifying the application to do what you wished, even if they did want to get involved in the legal gray area, and you can't exactly expect a developer to simply spend hours or days taking an app apart in the hope of modifying it when there is no real reason for them to do so.
Your best bet always was, and still is, to go back to AAA and ask them. If enough of the drivers start doing so they may consider allowing installation on a different device - although they may demand the device by sent to them first for the installation so they can pre-enter the required log-on information.
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My post was not meant as an insult, just a statement of fact. I always aknowledged the legal gray area, and more than understand why nobody would get involved. I guess I was hoping somebody might point me in the right direc,tion to accomplish the task on my own. I have since given up the task as I have stated already, and continue to utilize the various recources this site provides. I'm sorry you were offended, but once agan, it was not an insult. Have a nice day.
simple
Guys i know this is kinda a dead post but AAA locks the tablet to go to the one website only.. that is when you click on the "app" on the tablet, it is just opening the web page. its your shop number, password, truck id and user id.. no install needed.
If you install this on your own device (only some clubs allow "bring your own device") you need to enter the location url for your particular club usually http://spp.aaa.com/d3me*** where the *'s are your club number. Then you have to have an application username which is simply a password that gives you access rights to install the application. You will never see this on a club owned device like a cell phone or tablet provided by the club you are contracted for because it is preinstalled. So as "simple" as stated that is all you need on a club device but if you are trying to install on your device (which likely runs much faster and better anyway) then you need a club that allows BYOD to get the application installer password. (And no I wont post the installer password!)

Blackphone opinions???

I ran into this article today and I wanted to see what the people on XDA think about it. This company is working on a Android phone that it's primary purpose is to protect the users privacy.
Here's the link: http://mobile.theverge.com/2014/1/1...nn-silent-circle-geeksphone-blackphone-launch
Read the article, watch the video and let me know what you think.
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Saw news about this and came here to seek out does any1 have opinions about it.
i wonder, does the safety come from hardware or is it the OS what makes this so safe.. if it is the OS, i hope some1 smart enough makes custom rom for this.
I really don't see how this phone is gonna change anything. Apps and websites have keyloggers, You still need a carrier to get service from and they have control of all your traffic. What about radio frequencies that can be intercepted, IP addresses, GPS chips sending signals to satellites, baseband and firmware are connected thru the cell towers of the carrier. I'm starting to think this phone is a scam.
They said nothing about how they're dealing with all this. They are probably using the whole NSA scandal momentum to fool people into believing they are safe if they buy this phone.
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I saw an article about this venture also. This is a good thing. If he gets press about this phone, maybe other venders will take notice and start building in privacy features as well. :good:
I don't see the need for new hardware here. If they really want to secure something, they could create a mod for Android, that could be installed on a variety of devices for example.
Besides, if they encrypt telephony, messages and stuff, they will need to be decrypted again - but the question is where and how? I bet they won't have any hardware encryption module and even if they do, it will make communication with other phones impossible. Software encryption means other phones will need to install some additional software to communicate with the Blackphone and it might be a bit inconvenient.
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I don't see the need for new hardware here. If they really want to secure something, they could create a mod for Android, that could be installed on a variety of devices for example.
Besides, if they encrypt telephony, messages and stuff, they will need to be decrypted again - but the question is where and how? I bet they won't have any hardware encryption module and even if they do, it will make communication with other phones impossible. Software encryption means other phones will need to install some additional software to communicate with the Blackphone and it might be a bit inconvenient.
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That's a good point. how a non blackphone device is gonna decipher the encryption? how is it going to get the key? How can a non blackphone device even a establish the same "secure" connection?
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That's a good point. how a non blackphone device is gonna decipher the encryption? how is it going to get the key? How can a non blackphone device even a establish the same "secure" connection?
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I think you are missing the point. As you or I may not NEED this kind of security, I'm sure you can think of someone who does.
Obviously, there would be two levels of privacy/security... Connections between 2 black phones and everything else. So who utilize a black phone? How about corporations and governments? Law offices, professional sports teams, or doctors and hospitals.
Now, even though I do not NEED this, if it was affordable, I would heavily consider it.
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I think you are missing the point. As you or I may not NEED this kind of security, I'm sure you can think of someone who does.
Obviously, there would be two levels of privacy/security... Connections between 2 black phones and everything else. So who utilize a black phone? How about corporations and governments? Law offices, professional sports teams, or doctors and hospitals.
Now, even though I do not NEED this, if it was affordable, I would heavily consider it.
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I understand what you are saying and I completely agree with you. It looks like a device that corporations and the government would "benefit" more than regular users. Either way, It won't fix 90% of all the problems people face when it comes to staying safe against privacy/security breaches. I truly believe that they are using the whole NSA scandal momentum to make people believe that they are safe/secured if they buy this phone.
P.S: Nice quotes.
I saw this phone.
It isn't an answer to every privacy issue.
What its an answer to is, not having to agree to an android apps permissions to gain access to the app.
These apps don't make their money off the app sales, they make their money sending information to retailers.
Retailers own the world.
The question I still pose is... What's wrong with retailers knowing where you are?
There's nothing you can do about the government. They won't let us make things that are government proof, nor would they (The retailers ) want to.
But, what's wrong with these apps fine tuning my specific desires to my Location?
You can't stop people from stealing your identity. The hacker/firewall paradox is, for every walk you build, they will build a taller ladder.
The only thing really close to full privacy in data sending is, that light source that sends data. It's a light bulb, and the light has data in it, a sensor receives it. It can be held within the walls of a room. But that only effects a closed circuit type system. If that light source is connected to the Internet, then game over.
Why do you think record companies and movie companies keep their computer systems offline and deal in only physical media? A hacker will get into anything I'd you give him the tools and time.
This phone gives a sense of security that is non existant
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SaintCity86 said:
I saw this phone.
It isn't an answer to every privacy issue.
What its an answer to is, not having to agree to an android apps permissions to gain access to the app.
These apps don't make their money off the app sales, they make their money sending information to retailers.
Retailers own the world.
The question I still pose is... What's wrong with retailers knowing where you are?
There's nothing you can do about the government. They won't let us make things that are government proof, nor would they (The retailers ) want to.
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nailed it
The problem is Android itself. Thanks to Xprivacy, it's a lot easier to control what leaks out of your device. Personally I'd rather see more encryption mechanisms than this. FFOS seems to be on the right path
There Is nothing you can do to stop identity theft.
Nothing.
And there is nothing you can do to do the government from tapping your lines.
You want a safer form of communicating, send Voice recordings over text.
That's an entirety separate warrant, and harder to get. Other than that. It's hopeless
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FFOS seems to be on the right path
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I think you mean FOSS[1] = Free and Open Source Software. Anyway, I fully agree, in fact, that is the ONLY way. Closed source encryption programs can't be 100% trusted by definition. There might be security flaws, intentional or not.
Anyway. the NSA has backdoors to every operating system[2], so if you're really a target, they get you. Also, there are more than enough security holes in the layers under the operating system[3].
I think what these phones are supposed to do is bring end-to-end encryption for e.g. industry users so they don't get spied on. The NSA and the US government can get their hands on encryption keys for servers like in Lavabits case[4]. But this is the transport encryption. The data is, if not otherwise secured, available in plain text on the servers of providers. This also means, the officials can decrypt ANY data that comes in, not just the one of actual targets.
Now, end-to-end encryption makes sure even the provider can't see your data in plain text because you encrypt and decrypt it on your device. What Blackphone does is, it uses the apps from Silent Circle, a closed source encryption programm for VoIP and messages. Although the owner of that company is the well trusted cryptographer Phil Zimmerman, one can never be sure.
That's a good point. how a non blackphone device is gonna decipher the encryption? how is it going to get the key? How can a non blackphone device even a establish the same "secure" connection?
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You can install and use Silent Circle on any(ok, a lot of) phone(s). Just make sure you don't have additional malicious software installed. Any yes, it costs $100/year or so. And you get a subscription for SpiderOak, sort of a Dropbox but they encrypt the data before uploading. Any you get a better overview over what app uses what permissions. A few extra tweaks basically.
Alternative: Android Phone with CyanogenMod/Replica. TextSecure for messages, RedPhone for VoiP and owncloud for files. Way cheaper too, and open source, also made by well respected cryptographers like Moxie Marlinspike[5]
[1] de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free/Libre_Open_Source_Software
[2] zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-08/nsa-has-full-back-door-access-iphone-blackberry-and-android-smartphones-documents-re"]backdoors to every operating system
[3] forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530044
[4] techdirt.com/articles/20131002/17443624734/lavabit-tried-giving-feds-its-ssl-key-11-pages-4-point-type-feds-complained-that-it-was-illegible.shtml
[5] thoughtcrime.org
if they want to spy on us they can ... that's it...
More info?
Hi all - looking for more info on this phone - just joined XDADev to post this.
Specifically, what brands might this hardware be found under? Know it's a Tinno S8515 but have yet to find out anything about that; seems like Tinno generally makes phones for other companies?
Any help is appreciated!
Best,
-Cx
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The greatest challenge to securing a phone is not the OS or the apps running on it, it's the baseband. We have known for well over 30+ yeasr how to harden a *nix based system (like AOS), but we haven't even started to question WTF is going on in the closed source 10-100 MB baseband RTOS, which have fulll access to your entire FS and the most important phone operations, like SIM, RF, EMMC etc etc.
Only forcing the corrupt modem OEM's to release the sources of the Baseband firmware could improve the situation. This will never happen, unless there is another baseband Snowden out there somewhere...
We already know that the BP/CP FW is extremely insecure, and relies almost solely on obscurity as their main mechanism of protection. If this was not the case, the iPhone unlock developers would have been fekked long time ago, and the rest of us would sit around with SIM/network locked bricks filling up our bookshelves.
Unfortunately the greatest majority of the millions of XDA members are completely carefree about this issue and are only happy as long as they can "tweak some ROMs". So this will never be the place to find/see any serious baseband reversing, no matter how important it would be from a security standpoint.
So to summarize, your Qualcomm baseband will continue to send your exact GPS coordinates to the network provider at will, without you ever knowing, and without anyone (here) caring. So goes for the FM transmitter that is part of the baseband FW in both Intel and Qualcomm based phones. Do you have control over that? Never.
Only a serious long term spectrum analysis study could reveal whats going on there, where and when you're not (able) to watch.
This phone is the biggest scam lol.
hyshys said:
Saw news about this and came here to seek out does any1 have opinions about it.
i wonder, does the safety come from hardware or is it the OS what makes this so safe.. if it is the OS, i hope some1 smart enough makes custom rom for this.
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I was wondering this too. If it is only the rom (just like the $1300 pwnphone). It should be port-able
iliass01 said:
I was wondering this too. If it is only the rom (just like the $1300 pwnphone). It should be port-able
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Blackphone. - no hardware security, just software, and most of it is NOT open source. Some here (@SaintCity86 , @repat) has their points, and they are mostly right! If you want some security (and I said some!!!), then get rid of most of your apps (permission check and some common sense), all Google apps (yes, all of them), install a paid (not free) and high quality VPN software, don't use the phone feature (only data sim-prepaid), get an internet phone number (with no personal details), use end to end encrypted apps to make calls and send and receive texts, install Xposed and Xprivacy (or any other variant) and limit even more the apps you have on your phone. Don't use it as your only phone, but as a secure device and share your number and other infos with trusted people! In this case, maybe, you will be able to add some layer of security and actually be able to use it. And most important, don't give your phone in the hands of anyone! It is a bit paranoid, but it's the only way! But, don't be fooled! You can have some security, only if you stay under the radar, and don't gain some attention. If yes, then you have no luck! Personally, I have seen the Blackphone, and tested it for some time, and I am not really convinced it can be trusted.
Good luck!
Andronote3 said:
I really don't see how this phone is gonna change anything. Apps and websites have keyloggers, You still need a carrier to get service from and they have control of all your traffic. What about radio frequencies that can be intercepted, IP addresses, GPS chips sending signals to satellites, baseband and firmware are connected thru the cell towers of the carrier. I'm starting to think this phone is a scam.
They said nothing about how they're dealing with all this. They are probably using the whole NSA scandal momentum to fool people into believing they are safe if they buy this phone.
Sent from GNote 3 rooted with kingo.
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Would just like to correct this common misconception, GPS is one way.
GPS receivers as found in your phones, or navigation systems, receives GPS signals only. Nothing gets sent to satellites in this process, the algorithm is purely one way.

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