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Chainfire @ MWC2009, Barcelona

Typing this up really quickly as im waiting for lunch, will expand later.
I got lots of pics and vids already, which i may post later if there is any interest.
Android stuff seems to be decidedly absent so far.
@Microsoft: You all probably already heard about WM 6.5, saw some demos live, looks like a decent UI improvement, but its still no iPhone. Also saw some new devices here, including Acer stuff.
@nVidia: I did get a chance to play with a Tegra device, which was really snappy and smooth, but also the size of a small house. Very promising. They did have two normal Tegra devices on display, with names I had seldom heard before, but behind glass.
@HTC: Played with the Touch Diamond 2 a bit. I dont like the new form factor much. It wastes space at the bottom, and introduces a zoom slider that I couldnt get to work in either IE or Opera. They did do some more HTC integration, new startmenu, better contacts list etc. The Touch Max is just an HD with WiMAX.
@Qualcomm: They demod snapdragon, but it didnt seem as impressive as Tegra. Also, I was not allowed to touch the device. The now infamous Toshiba was also there, but again, no touching. BTW Nokia just made a deal with these guys, so abandon ship!
@LG: I was surprised to learn they are switching to WM as primary OS. They had some nice Omnia-like devices though, and the wristwatchphone was also fun.
@Samsung: Biggest surprise here, it seems the OmniaHD is running Symbian! No idea yet if there will also be a WM version.
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The open eco system keynote with Microsoft, Nokia and AT&T CEOS was interesting. AT&T guys was the best, Ballmer a close second with his energetic ways and content, while the Nokia guy almost killed everybody due to excess boredom. The keynote itself was mostly a call for more working together and being generally more open with things, which they all agreed was necessary.
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BTW, I dont know who CBOSS are or what they do, but they do employ an army of hot models!
More later, lunch is here, and I want to find myself a Palm Pre to play with!

ok, just tell me which device to get and that's it. so many out there i can't decide what i want.
JUST TELL ME! AHHH!

Omnia HD!!
HTC's hardware seems to be stuck in 2007 compared to Samsung and LG, heck even Sony Ericsson.
Kinda worrying how ppl are moving towards Symbian, but can't blame them windows mobile really is starting to show its age and no amount of skinning will disguise the fact that it needs a major revamp.

Okay, I was seriously thinking of abandoning the HTC ship for the nokia N97, so I could keep my tilt screen, but now? So if it is not too much trouble, my contract is up in April, could you please corner the AT$T guys and ask them when my new Touch Pro II ( Fuze II ? ) will be available on AT$T? Thanks

Some more stuff... First, somebody at HTC really needs to be fired for putting XT9 on the TP enabled when keyboard is extended. Annoying like hell, finally its off
Found some very nice Android devices that should be out by Q2. The company didnt decide on the brand name yet.
Unfortunately you cant play with the Palm Pre unless you are press.
@Gigabyte (GSmart): some very nice upcoming WM devices. Some were running 6.5 and I played with that. I think somebody made a mistake there!
@iMate: They drowned some of their WM phones. Waterproof!

can you attempt to get the new WM6.5 build ?

Chainfire said:
Some more stuff... First, somebody at HTC really needs to be fired for putting XT9 on the TP enabled when keyboard is extended. Annoying like hell, finally its off
Found some very nice Android devices that should be out by Q2. The company didnt decide on the brand name yet.
Unfortunately you cant play with the Palm Pre unless you are press.
@Gigabyte (GSmart): some very nice upcoming WM devices. Some were running 6.5 and I played with that. I think somebody made a mistake there!
@iMate: They drowned some of their WM phones. Waterproof!
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Any more info on these very nice Android phones?

LOL chainfire,
so you're off to palm some hot models...

xplode said:
can you attempt to get the new WM6.5 build ?
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Just like the old days when we were trying to get our hands on WM5....
ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP!!!!!!! (chanting)
Come on Chain, you can do it!

egzthunder1 said:
Just like the old days when we were trying to get our hands on WM5....
ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP!!!!!!! (chanting)
Come on Chain, you can do it!
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lol let's hope

mbarvian said:
lol let's hope
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Lol and then he gets caught and gets on Engadget or something.
But you'll be our hero.

well he just needs some time alone with one device (10 minutes will do) and an sd card (or any variant of it - mini, micro)

Chainfire said:
@Qualcomm: They demod snapdragon, but it didnt seem as impressive as Tegra. Also, I was not allowed to touch the device. The now infamous Toshiba was also there, but again, no touching.
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At Toshiba's booth, you can freely play with the TG01. Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3339526 for more info & a lot of pics & videos (more to come!!!)

Hey Werner!
You're here? Haven't gotten round to Toshiba's booth yet, but if you're interested, PM me your phone number (plus international code bla bla) and we can meet up, schedules allowing... There will be beer!

No ROM dumps people It's a small booth, can't make it happen.
About those Android phones we saw (and I must stress here, I haven't even seen half of all the exhibits yet because of appointments and speeches etc), first, they looked very nice. One of the sexiest phone designs I've seen in a while, but then it was made by a 'design company'. They originally focused on Linux but switched to Android when it was released. According to them, they are using the default Android 'shell' - which is a shame, because their Linux phone had one of the awesomest shells I've seen in a while. I don't think they really understood me correctly, but it seemed they were saying that for these phones you can get apps to run as root without jailbreaking by getting it certified by them (or something.. wasn't really clear).
There were also some Androids coming out under the General Mobile label, but not necessarily those I mentioned above
And no, we're not palming those models (but perhaps we will? ) but we are sure to do some clubhopping here. It's Barcelona, after all! In fact I just got back from a club
EDIT: Also, at SPB's booth we were shown SPB Shell 3.0 (after being persistent), dont have any pics or vids of that. But it's pretty darn cool. I'm going to buy it when it's out, most likely, beats the crap out of TF3D.

Chainfire said:
EDIT: Also, at SPB's booth we were shown SPB Shell 3.0 (after being persistent), dont have any pics or vids of that. But it's pretty darn cool. I'm going to buy it when it's out, most likely, beats the crap out of TF3D.
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I've taken a video of it; it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA

Menneisyys said:
I've taken a video of it; it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA
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Wow ! Looks great, very cool. Your right, look out TF3D.

Alright !!!! It looks like Chainfire is coming home with the goods after all.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,25076342-952,00.html
Well done! A new Touch Pro II and WM 6.5.

hey Chainfire wanna do a beer .
At least i can show u my gratitude for all the work u done.. U here for ur work or what i was looking in to buy a ticket but its simply too expensive

Hehe wasn't me!
Sandbunny: Unfortunately I'm getting on the airplane back home in a few hours

Chances of Seeing Sense UI on Raphael???

I would if anyone is considering trying to port this over since it´s already HTC´s? The general news is ambiguous about the mater... Anyone?

fllysurfer said:
I would if anyone is considering trying to port this over since it´s already HTC´s? The general news is ambiguous about the mater... Anyone?
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I think we'll only going to see it when the first WM phone will be released with it...
Fortunately, by HTC's CEO own words "(... HTC´s Sense UI ...) debuting on the HTC Hero and available on all new HTC devices moving forward (...)”

It looks just like TF3D. Why spend the time to get it of TF3D works and was made for our phones?

I was under the impression that Sense UI was part of the upcoming Hero device which is multi-touch and running Android.
Assuming I am correct, that would indicate to me that it will most likely not be possible to port it.
Cheers,

Although this is true, pbmestre is also true in saying that the CEO said that they will bring the sense UI to winmo devices. So i think it's going to be a long time before we see it on a raphael, since the android version will be practically impossible to port to a winmo phone. We'll just have to wait until it comes out on one of HTC's future winmo devices, and then port it.

hilaireg said:
I was under the impression that Sense UI was part of the upcoming Hero device which is multi-touch and running Android.
Assuming I am correct, that would indicate to me that it will most likely not be possible to port it.
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Probably, you're correct...
I think that a WM UI version will be available, and will be a step forward from TF3D2... Probably TP2 will have it, within WM6.5 Upgrade...
Still, it will demand a lot of work to port it... As it is a lot more complex (!?)...
But, we can still dream...

AdamNimrod said:
It looks just like TF3D. Why spend the time to get it of TF3D works and was made for our phones?
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TF3D "works" on our phones?? Just barely, if that's what you want to call what it does on our phones.....
I read that Sense is supposed to be the replacement for TF3D (thank god I really hate buggy slow TF3D). That being the case, it will only be a matter of time before we will see it on our WM devices. The sooner the better!

Reefermattness said:
TF3D "works" on our phones?? Just barely, if that's what you want to call what it does on our phones.....
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Not even that... which is why I dont even use it. All it is, is a 'pretty' memory hog.

HTC Sense UI = Samsung Widget + TF3D

AdamNimrod said:
It looks just like TF3D. Why spend the time to get it of TF3D works and was made for our phones?
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I can't even understand why anyone would want TF3D on their phones anyway. I couldnt agree with you more its been in my siggy for a long time.
-McMex

mcmexican said:
I can't even understand why anyone would want TF3D on their phones anyway. I couldnt agree with you more its been in my siggy for a long time.
-McMex
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LOL ... I love the pretty slide'n'flo feel of TouchFLO.
I've always found the Windows Mobile GUI lacking in appeal - IMHO, 6.5 is a step in the right direction.
... but I still love the pretty slide'n'flo feel of TouchFLO.
Cheers,
PS: Did I forget to mention that I love the pretty slide'n'flo feel of TouchFLO?

Gotta agree with you there mate, touch flo is good for touch screen though the "sliding Panels" Chome works awesome on a smartphone. Still got a 6.1 build on my excalibur that I love

hilaireg said:
LOL ... I love the pretty slide'n'flo feel of TouchFLO.
I've always found the Windows Mobile GUI lacking in appeal - IMHO, 6.5 is a step in the right direction.
... but I still love the pretty slide'n'flo feel of TouchFLO.
Cheers,
PS: Did I forget to mention that I love the pretty slide'n'flo feel of TouchFLO?
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I used ultimate launch till I found SPB MobileShell 3.0. I cannot stand the slide n flo it was always insulting to me how they could give us such a poorly performing UI. I agree Windows Mobile UI by itself sucks as well but Tflo is just so inefficient I personally couldn't take it.
-McMex

sense is coming to wm
I just read an article over on wmpoweruser.com that says it's in the works.

It´s in the Works
climber1872000 said:
I just read an article over on wmpoweruser.com that says it's in the works.
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Sweet... I like choice, grant it might not appeal to everyone but that´s never been the issue.
Glad to here it.

mcmexican said:
I used ultimate launch till I found SPB MobileShell 3.0. I cannot stand the slide n flo it was always insulting to me how they could give us such a poorly performing UI. I agree Windows Mobile UI by itself sucks as well but Tflo is just so inefficient I personally couldn't take it.
-McMex
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Yes SPB MS 3 has taken over my phone as well, it's the first piece of software that I've been ALMOST completely happy with in a long time. Plus any software that could get you to quit talking about UL all the time is alright with me I will still be interested to see what HTC can do with the new UI.

Sense UI
So any good news with a HTC sense UI for raphael phone?

Best Handset at the moment?

Please recommend me a new handset as I'm getting the bug for a new one again and I'm a bit out of touch.
I've had just about every handset HTC has ever made since the very first XDA I.
I'm not put off by size (I love and still use my Athena)
Must be fast and good at playing video/divx etc
Prefer some kind of flash.
I kinda like the Pro2 but worried its just a pretty face and no big performance increase?
Also concidering a Hero but worried about Android. Can I transfer all contacts, calender etc over ok?
Suggestions on a postcard please

The HD2 LEO is the latest and greatest with Snapdragon! See it's section for details:http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=532
But if u want a keyboard, then the TP2.

Touch Pro 2 is the best hardware keyboard device!
We always want more!!
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......

I strongly recommend you to buy Touch Pro 2. It is more than just a pretty face. It has a tilting screen. It allows for optimum viewing angle when typing, it allows you to easily watch a movie without holding your device, and it's great if you're using GPS navigation in the car.

Thanks guys, any comments on the Hero?
Are they easy to mod and transfer contacts etc from WM?

Hero comments here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560143
All HTC devices can be modded thanks to XDA!!
All can be done (almost all )

Motorola Droid is announced tomorrow.
It'll blow the pants of anything we've seen yet.

orb3000 said:
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......
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Made me laugh.

orb3000 said:
We always want more!!
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......
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Hey orb, maybe there will be no keyboard and just visual & voice interface!
Also, there will be Kryptonite Batteries that go a year w/o a recharge!

don't worry about Android. I am a long time WM user, and had a G1 phone for almost a year now. Android is a very very nice system with a lot of software in the Marketplace.
That being said, I just got myself the new Acer neoTouch.
1 GHz Snapdragon, good amout of RAM, nice 3,8" WVGA screen, WM 6.5, configurable accelerometer, nice design, good build quality.
I would say, if you don't need a keyboard and don't want to wait for the HD2, this is the best device today. it is very speedy, has good usability and seems reliable so far.

Fuskand said:
Motorola Droid is announced tomorrow.
It'll blow the pants of anything we've seen yet.
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Shame it´s not an HTC device so it won´t have the great support of this forum. I´ll stick to HTC
KrewCial said:
Made me laugh.
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Me too
galaxys said:
Hey orb, maybe there will be no keyboard and just visual & voice interface!
Also, there will be Kryptonite Batteries that go a year w/o a recharge!
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LOL
Yeah mate, you are right

[Q] how can i overclock a windows phone 7 device

Can someone tell me if i can overclock my windows phone device ?

nooooooooooooooooooooooooot yet

What is the use of overclocking Windows phones? Wp OS is damn fast.

Extreme boy said:
What is the use of overclocking Windows phones? Wp OS is damn fast.
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i agree but there will always people like this... first they ask how to overclock, then they'll get the answer which is obviously no for the time being and they get all pissy and ***** about how android is better... bla bla bla.....

Extreme boy said:
What is the use of overclocking Windows phones? Wp OS is damn fast.
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To make playing games a more fluid experience, for one.

Underclocking is what i need
.. yeah, i need underclocking, not overclocking. Because when NAVIGON is running on my Omnia 7, it gets damned hot and sucks out the battery, even when connected to external power.

Extreme boy said:
What is the use of overclocking Windows phones? Wp OS is damn fast.
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i agree but i think wp7 has more potential than oder os out there

underclocking
the OS is very fast, i've the problem that the phone is too hot and it shutdown byself.
i see ther's some rom with hack speed cpu. Ther's no app to underclock?

u dont have to overclock if u are using a a phone using nand storage ( eg. LG samsung). It is already fast enough
overclocking will only drain the battery...
But hoever no one has managed to do it yet although it has been achieved in win mobile but i am sure its very possible because win mobile can overclock & underclock just by installing a couple of apps
setcpu, leocpu apps ect
if someone can port them over to winphone , that will be great
well u can do a few changes to the registry to speed up the OS if u are using a phone like Hd7 which uses sdcard for storage. these tweaks will give u a speed and response like 1.5Ghz wp 7 phones
3 of them
Disable d2d hardware acceleration for Internet explorer
This wll disable certain features of hardware acceleration in IE9 and swith to CPU rendering saving some battery life in web surfing and also faster more fluid graphics
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\Microsoft\windows\INTE RNET explorer\main\feature control/Feature Render with 2D/ (set Dword to 0)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Internet Settings
Value name: MaxConnectionsPer1_0Server
Value data: 32
Value Name: MaxConnectionsPerServer
Value data: 16
this will speed up overall loading of graphics in the OS
\HKLM\System\GDI\GLYPHCACHE\limit=1048576
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speedyburnzales said:
.. yeah, i need underclocking, not overclocking. Because when NAVIGON is running on my Omnia 7, it gets damned hot and sucks out the battery, even when connected to external power.
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Underclock from 1 GHZ to 800 mhz will be fine .. 20% gain in battery life

Potential potential, i keep hearing about it......forget it, i have a 3 year old desire, released with 2.1, got 2.2, 2.3, 4.0 and now work being alpha release of 4.1 jelly been.
A Samsung focus 1st gen, with 4 incremental updates which basically give you nothing new, just what Microsoft forgot to add.....
And no development.....
What's the use of potential if i can't get any features of normal smartphones......never gonna buy a wp phone EVER
regards
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

Yasir Javed Ansari said:
Potential potential, i keep hearing about it......forget it, i have a 3 year old desire, released with 2.1, got 2.2, 2.3, 4.0 and now work being alpha release of 4.1 jelly been.
A Samsung focus 1st gen, with 4 incremental updates which basically give you nothing new, just what Microsoft forgot to add.....
And no development.....
What's the use of potential if i can't get any features of normal smartphones......never gonna buy a wp phone EVER
regards
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
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So you came here just to tell us that? Cool, thank you for your input. Please come again.

Yasir Javed Ansari said:
Potential potential, i keep hearing about it......forget it, i have a 3 year old desire, released with 2.1, got 2.2, 2.3, 4.0 and now work being alpha release of 4.1 jelly been.
A Samsung focus 1st gen, with 4 incremental updates which basically give you nothing new, just what Microsoft forgot to add.....
And no development.....
What's the use of potential if i can't get any features of normal smartphones......never gonna buy a wp phone EVER
regards
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
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Bye bye, you wont be missed haha :silly:

Keefo said:
Bye bye, you wont be missed haha :silly:
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Vented my frustration actually, but still, i did expect more development for this OS then what's been actually done....
Maybe you guys don't agree and are satisfied with it....
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

Yasir Javed Ansari said:
Vented my frustration actually, but still, i did expect more development for this OS then what's been actually done....
Maybe you guys don't agree and are satisfied with it....
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You see, the situation is this, you choose an OS that by its very nature is buggy, slow and in need of constant tweaking and modding, and that's fine, I used to be the same, id mod the significantly more moddable WM every other week.
But many of us have moved on, we want a phone that is just that, a phone, you pick it up and it works. I think its a perfectly valid statement to say that out of the box, WP IS a much better PHONE and contact (social/work) centre then iOS or Android, you will note the "out of the box" by that I mean, you don't need to install anything extra
Now its all down to personal preference, what's odd about your comment is that, very rarely do you see us going over to another forum that your not actively participating in and then drop comments like that which by its own nature will wind people up, its a little bit disrespectful to be honest.
Ive had WM WP and various Androids on mu HD2 and suffice to say, android will never grace its NAND again, not because its not any good, but because for my needs, WP is significantly better than anything else, I don't need to mod it, I don't want to mod it, I just want it to work

dazza9075 said:
You see, the situation is this, you choose an OS that by its very nature is buggy, slow and in need of constant tweaking and modding, and that's fine, I used to be the same, id mod the significantly more moddable WM every other week.
But many of us have moved on, we want a phone that is just that, a phone, you pick it up and it works. I think its a perfectly valid statement to say that out of the box, WP IS a much better PHONE and contact (social/work) centre then iOS or Android, you will note the "out of the box" by that I mean, you don't need to install anything extra
Now its all down to personal preference, what's odd about your comment is that, very rarely do you see us going over to another forum that your not actively participating in and then drop comments like that which by its own nature will wind people up, its a little bit disrespectful to be honest.
Ive had WM WP and various Androids on mu HD2 and suffice to say, android will never grace its NAND again, not because its not any good, but because for my needs, WP is significantly better than anything else, I don't need to mod it, I don't want to mod it, I just want it to work
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Reply appreciated , I'm just trying to work out both of my phones.....maybe I'll understand the wp7 mentality with time.... It really is down to simple preferences......wp7 has much better integration then others out of box, but marketplace is very poor, dont you agree ? I mean the YouTube app is just a link to mobile website......maybe it needs more time....
Anyways....I'm off .
Regards
Yasir
Sent from my HTC Explorer A310e using xda app-developers app

I like android and I like IOS and windows phone. I like apples and oranges and banana's. I treat each fruit as what they are a different fruit. You wont see me running around a hate apples they don't taste like oranges. lol

Yasir Javed Ansari said:
Reply appreciated , I'm just trying to work out both of my phones.....maybe I'll understand the wp7 mentality with time.... It really is down to simple preferences......wp7 has much better integration then others out of box, but marketplace is very poor, dont you agree ? I mean the YouTube app is just a link to mobile website......maybe it needs more time....
Anyways....I'm off .
Regards
Yasir
Sent from my HTC Explorer A310e using xda app-developers app
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The marketplace is very poor?
Again that depends on your needs, at this moment in time I have about half a dozen apps installed, I cant think of anything else I want on it, so from my perspective the market place is actually perfect.
I don't have a need to install dozens upon dozens of apps, I don't need 1000 different torch apps. There are two reasons for this, firstly I simply have no need for anything else at the moment, secondly I refuse to get tied in to a marketplace, buys stacks of apps, then forever feel I am chained to that OS forever because moving would essentially mean throwing away all the apps I've already purchased and potentially buying them again.
Tell me, lets say over the course of you OS choice, you spend £50 on apps, then all of a sudden your world is rocked to its bones when the "Enemy" releases an OS version that actually suites your needs better than your Current OS, would you take the phone that is better for you and throw away £50 or would at the very least feel compelled to stay with your current OS choice and make do.
Don't be so quick to answer that, I can promise you at the very least the argument will crop up in your mind, when in fact there should be no argument at all, the phone that does what you need it to do the best IS the best choice...

Is this a good o.s for teens?

Yea, what the title says, i saw WP7 at a delicious price and found it really cool, my question is, i am 16, have been working with android for a while and i'd like to try something new, would this fit my needs, i am into social networks and it's got Xbox Live, which a major advantage for me!

Yes, I think it actually pretty good for everyone...
Messaging is awesome as it combines messenger, facebook messaging and sms into a single application.

If you (and your friends/classmates) don't care about handset's popularity, "glamour and prestige", WP7 is right choice for you
P.S. 15-year-old daughter of my friend rejected WP7 'cause it's "not so cute and fashionable as iPhone", and "everyone in school has an iPhone"

renatofontes said:
Yes, I think it actually pretty good for everyone...
Messaging is awesome as it combines messenger, facebook messaging and sms into a single application.
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Thanks!
sensboston said:
If you (and your friends/classmates) don't care about handset's popularity, "glamour and prestige", WP7 is right choice for you
P.S. 15-year-old daughter of my friend rejected WP7 'cause it's "not so cute and fashionable as iPhone", and "everyone in school has an iPhone"
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Actually, teens here in portugal don't really care about fashionable phones, they stick to the simplest phones, but i might get a WP7 then, it seems reasonable and good for me, so thanks for the replies!

Its absolutely insane how cheap most wp7 devices are . All due to marketing and popularity . I'd get one before they get popular and raise in price .
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why don't you give Launcher 7 a try? It's a windows 7 launcher for droid. I paid for the donation version but there is a free version. It works good.

msnow1 said:
why don't you give Launcher 7 a try? It's a windows 7 launcher for droid. I paid for the donation version but there is a free version. It works good.
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Be serious.

d.a.v.o.r said:
Be serious.
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it works very very well. you get the WP7 UI and all those android apps in one package. fooled the guys when i showed it off.

ohgood said:
it works very very well. you get the WP7 UI and all those android apps in one package. fooled the guys when i showed it off.
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the homescreen and that's it...
It isn't nearly the wp7 experience.

Hey mate, i think you will love wp7, im 17 myself and i came form WM6.1-6.5.x and i love WP7, only downside is that it is a closed source... but since you are not into that then it will be perfect for you

scoobysnacks said:
the homescreen and that's it...
It isn't nearly the wp7 experience.
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Yeah, that's true. I've got an HTC Desire with Launcher 7 on it and an HTC HD7. And the only phone I use is the HD7. The WP7 experience is just incredible - it's really smooth and runs fast and everything you need is integrated into the OS.
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I think that WP7 is a good choice for everyone. It doesn't matter if you're a teen, an adult or an elderly person. I'd definitely recommend a WP7 device. You can't make anything wrong with it.