I'm sure almost all of you will agree with me when i say rapidshare sucks! and by rapidshare I also mean the rest of the rapidshare-like sites (4sites, mediafire, megaupload, etc) ... and its a pain to use them to download roms, especially if there are multiple version roms (lite, full, cube, etc) and you want to get more than one (I'm not cheap or anything, but if I have to give money to download the files [referring to websites' premium account, etc], I'd rather donate the money to the rom-cookers for their hard work)
and I think most of us are familiar with torrents by now ... I searched the forum, and i don't think it has been suggested or brought up before ... but how about having a torrent setup for the roms ...
There are a lot of people (including me ) who are willing to help and share as much as possible ... ideas/comments/suggestions ?
p.s. I hope this isn't against any rules ... correct me if I'm wrong
Well, the problem with torrents is that they have to be on all day or at least until they get an ample amount of seeders so they can stop hosting it. There is a lot of people that have a limited connection and that would make it worse. For those of us who have good internet connections, and can host torrents, then this would be a good idea, but some people cant. Unless they get help from people who have good internet connections.
I've posted most of the files on my site..
http://f1ip.net/Downloads/KaiserFiles
.. and torrent sucks.
I wouldnt download these from a torrent, or anyone elses site other than the authors published links.
How do I know you haven't tampered with it prior to uploading it??
Maybe if the cooks list the MD5 for each release, then I *might* be tempted.
What if xda-devs set up a private tracker?
My torrent client is always running on my pc at home only for private trackers. its not worth having a bunch of leachers and hit and runners if they were hosted on public torrent sites.
f1ip said:
I've posted most of the files on my site..
http://f1ip.net/Downloads/KaiserFiles
.. and torrent sucks.
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I like torrents but still... here my link to the files.... see my signiture:
guys ... use 4shared.com ... no wait ... 5gb ... only max 100mb file limit!
If I am at home well supported torrents are MUCH faster. I think torrents would be a great idea and an MD5 is easy enough to generate.
4shared.com is one of my favorite download sites used on here. It works well when I am at work or on someone else's network that doesn't have the ports set up for bittorrent. But I have never seen the speeds from 4shared.com that I get from bittorrent.
I have flashed a LOT of roms on the forums and the worst thing for me is when rapidshare says "Wait another hour to download". I can tell you that I would seed the ROMs
Just my 2 cents
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My internet sucks, my wife is always angry that I am here and not talking to her, personally I would like for you all to only host files any place that the cook would like. Really it is up to them. This is a good idea though.
This way I can stare at XDA even longer waiting for the new rom to be placed on my phone.
tilt
Rom..dualtouch v4
radio 1.27.15.32
8525
gave to my wife
now it is a cute paper wait
No torrents for me. I tried downloading a previous ROM from one and it took two hours versus a very quick download with the free rapidshare or megaupload...
(384K DSL)
Just about anything other than rapidshare is better. Latest ones I've used are 2shared.com and 4shared.com. Also Sendspace isn't too bad.
I used to put roms up on Torrents via piratebay and had a box that I left online to seed them. Problem was I saw people pulling, but nobody else was seeding. So the only way torrents will work is if you get others that are willing to pull and share, and not just pull.
why cant you post it on usenet and make a nzb file out of it so anyone can download it fast with grabbit or something and just post the nzb file here thatway people like mfrazzz dont have to seed endlessly and everyone can download the rom fast
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why cant you post it on usenet and make a nzb file out of it so anyone can download it fast with grabbit or something and just post the nzb file here thatway people like mfrazzz dont have to seed endlessly and everyone can download the rom fast
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I second this idea!
It's been a while since I patroled the NNTP servers... is there an appropriate group for posting these type of files?
start a new group alt.binairies.xda.kaiser??? for our roms or alt.binairies.xda for all roms posted on this site like the ftp sever before microsoft bashed it
use this forum for nzb posting and the usenet for all the pars and rars so people only need to install a newsreader and download a nzb file not search for all the pars rars manually
keep the acces to the usenet group closed for cookers only so that not anyone can subscribe to the group
the only thing the cookers have to do is upload the file's to the group and create a nzb post it in the forum and everyone is happy
I think torrents are much better idea.
But the tracker should be in xda site and accessible only to registered members of the forum.
If everyone will keep the golden rule of 1.1 ratio, then there are no problems and It will be much better that all free upload sites. rAPIDHSARE sux...
Whatever the case is I think its worth a try...
Great Idea! Also, have a point system based on the ip you use most on here, so when ever you don do your share you loss points and a certain amount of points is required to download certain things! If you cant seed for certian reasons then you will be the excpetion? Eh, good idea?
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start a new group alt.binairies.xda.kaiser??? for our roms or alt.binairies.xda for all roms posted on this site like the ftp sever before microsoft bashed it
use this forum for nzb posting and the usenet for all the pars and rars so people only need to install a newsreader and download a nzb file not search for all the pars rars manually
keep the acces to the usenet group closed for cookers only so that not anyone can subscribe to the group
the only thing the cookers have to do is upload the file's to the group and create a nzb post it in the forum and everyone is happy
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Chainfire already did this, it didn't take off at all and it's been a link on the wiki for quite some time now. http://www.jongma.org/xda-nzb/
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Great Idea! Also, have a point system based on the ip you use most on here, so when ever you don do your share you loss points and a certain amount of points is required to download certain things! If you cant seed for certian reasons then you will be the excpetion? Eh, good idea?
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Torrents, a bunch of mirrors, mirrored mirrors and all sorts of things have been discussed in the past. None of them got past the talk stage. If/when they have, they've been completely *OWNED* by the bandwidth usage.
There are hundreds of people downloading these files and you'll be lucky to have a 100:1 ratio for seeding vs. downloading. That means that everyone will get around 2KB/s each, 7x to 21x slower than the typical 15 to 45KB/s download from RapidShare or MegaUpload.
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Torrents, a bunch of mirrors, mirrored mirrors and all sorts of things have been discussed in the past. None of them got past the talk stage. If/when they have, they've been completely *OWNED* by the bandwidth usage.
There are hundreds of people downloading these files and you'll be lucky to have a 100:1 ratio for seeding vs. downloading. That means that everyone will get around 2KB/s each, 7x to 21x slower than the typical 15 to 45KB/s download from RapidShare or MegaUpload.
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Torrents are really only good for 1gb files and up.
Torrents would work fine if it was done on a credits-based system with a private tracker (private meaning you must create an account, not invite only - could be tied together w/forum accounts)
The tracker would enforce at least a 1:1 ratio beyond the first 'free' download, and in the case a torrent gets orphaned the tracker could also hold a local mirror of the files, so when seeds becomes < 1, it kicks on as a seed and finishes at least one person off to keep the torrent alive..
As far as torrents being only really good for 1gb files and up, that holds true for public torrents, but on a private credit based system, arbitrary sizes work fine
Plus people in general have a fixation with making a number grow larger and larger, so a credit-based system has it's own built in motivational driver. It's the basis for most video games out there! (score, xp, level, etc!) You could even give each forum user a special icon or access to a custom tagline, etc. depending on their current level of credits, for another motivational driver to keep seeding up.
I have been a long time visitor to XDA and decided that it is time to start giving back. I have a large web server with traffic that I do not even use. Would anyone be interested in helping me to create a repository to store all the files that these awesome people create? I can install and setup a web based file management system. I can give the developers their own section. It will be quite some work at first but it will stop us having to go to RapidShare, MegaUpload, and 4FileShare for our roms. I have over 500GB of space and want to use it.
Please let me know.
~Tim
Hey everyone. I figured this might be a good place to go with this since everyone in here knows how much of a pain in the butt it is to download ROMs from those upload sites. Anyways, I have some extra webspace that I'd be willing to put up for use for people to upload CABs and ROMs to.
Has this been tried before? If not, would people actually use this? I would make an FTP account for everyone to use, and then developers could make their own folders and put their ROMs and CABs in there.
It might not be much, but it would be me giving back to the XDA community. If any chefs want to test it out for speed and such, let me know in this thread or in a PM and I'll get an FTP account made up along with a subdomain or something.
I have 1.5TB of disk space and 15TB of transfer per month. All of... 200MB of transfer is used. So I think I can handle hosting a couple ROMs.
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Hey everyone. I figured this might be a good place to go with this since everyone in here knows how much of a pain in the butt it is to download ROMs from those upload sites. Anyways, I have some extra webspace that I'd be willing to put up for use for people to upload CABs and ROMs to.
Has this been tried before? If not, would people actually use this? I would make an FTP account for everyone to use, and then developers could make their own folders and put their ROMs and CABs in there.
It might not be much, but it would be me giving back to the XDA community. If any chefs want to test it out for speed and such, let me know in this thread or in a PM and I'll get an FTP account made up along with a subdomain or something.
I have 1.5TB of disk space and 15TB of transfer per month. All of... 200MB of transfer is used. So I think I can handle hosting a couple ROMs.
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Thanks for the offer, a lot of people offer mirrors by uploading cooked ROM's to there webspace / storage area and posting a mirro (like so), normally the chef's then add the link to the first post.
I suggest you do this. And maybe add a link in your signature to the repository.
A lot of foreign users and office folk will apperciate your efforts, as the common storage sites are banned in thier country / office)
Once up and running I'll drop me a PM and I'll add it to the FAQ Sticky post for you.
Ta
Dave
For the last 6 months I've been hosting files for developers in the Eris section. I made the site to people wouldn't have to use all that MultiUpload crap, got sick of the waiting 60 seconds to download a file, entering a verification code, etc etc.
Anyways, the site's worked well. You can direct link to your files, upload everything via a simple web interface.
I just thought I'd offer the site to developers in other forums now.
http://android.grdlock.net
Anyways, if you're interested in using it to host your files, just make a username on the site real quick, shoot me a PM, and I'll give it upload permissions.
And no, this isn't an advertisement or anything. People in the Eris section have just liked using the website over MultiUpload, so I thought I'd offer to let other people use my bandwidth as well.
I can jump in on this as well - I have unlimited bandwidth so if you need another mirror, let me know and ill set you up on my server.
I have a shell hosting secondfloor.ca, and permission from the sysadmin to mirror Android roms. No ads, etc. Hosted in Montreal, Canada. I believe it uploads at 100mbps. It costs me $10 per terabyte to upload, so if it comes to it I may have to add 'Image verification' for downloads.
I don't have an easy way to give other's ftp access, and so I'd prefer to download the rom from some other site, and then give a link for the mirror. A readme/changelog file would be helpful too, with contact information (email) for the rom maintainer.
Some conditions:
Android roms only.
To save space, old releases would get deleted when there's a new release.
I want copies of all the patches, a text file with the list of modifications, the git pull version and git url for the upstream sources. No secrets. I want to be able to reproduce the rom. This will be archived along with the rom.
So each ROM would involve 3 files:
android-rom-htc-desire-xxx-v1.zip
android-rom-htc-desire-xxx-v1-readme.txt
android-rom-htc-desire-xxx-v1-patches.zip
And an index.html if the team wants to make a web page for their rom.
I can also host a forum if development teams want their own forum. The forum would also allow uploading the rom to the site as an attachment.
Please feel free to comment on this offer. Let me know if there's anything else I can do.
PM me to mirror your rom, or email [email protected]