Hey guys,
I'm going to buy my WP7 phone (which is Windows Phone 7 Phone, kinda like ATM Machine I guess) this week and it's a tricky decision. It reminds me of the start of the original pokemon games if any of you remember that - three choices, all with their own strengths and weaknesses.
I've done my reading and a fair bit of research but I'm still not leaning in any particular direction as of yet. Just interested in a few opinions from people that have been living with these phones for a while.
So, here are my options (I'm in Australia and buying unlocked):
Samsung Omnia 7 - People have good things to say about the load times on this phone, and of course the screen. I'm not totally sold on the industrial design and I currently have an AMOLED screen on my HTC Legend which sucks in sunlight, oversaturates colors and generally pisses me off.
HTC Mozart - I've used the camera on this phone and really like it, but the back's a little ugly with that stupid triangle design. In case this phone has some kind of trump card I'm missing, it's at the bottom of the list
HTC 7 Trophy - I like the look of this phone but I keep reading reviews saying it's midrange. I'm coming from a midrange device and I don't wanna be left behind - I don't see how anything with a 1ghz processor and a screen like this is midrange, but whatever.
HTC HD7 - bit of a wild card option. Never had a phone with a screen this big but could be kinda cool, although all the reviews say the viewing angles are a bit crap
Anyway, I'm sure any of these phones would be great, but I'm just curious to see the opinions of the people that own them.
Cheers
I know it sounds oversimplified but the hardware is generally good (aside from the one with the stupid speaker built in) so likely I'd reccomend the biggest screen because with netflix big screen and kickstand=win
The bigger screen on the HTC is definitely not better and will be a step down from your AMOLED device. Try the SAMOLED Samsung which should have better colours than the AMOLED screen you have now. 4" is still large enough to impress.
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The bigger screen on the HTC is definitely not better and will be a step down from your AMOLED device. Try the SAMOLED Samsung which should have better colours than the AMOLED screen you have now. 4" is still large enough to impress.
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cant say I was a fan of the bluish tint to the white lettering on the amoled screens
I say go Omnia7. The only form of tinting I notice is when a totally white screen slightly goes darker or 'grey', I think its for battery purposes.
Has to be the Omnia7 or HD7. I dwindled my choices down to those two:
Omnia7:
+ AMOLED
- 8Gb
+ NAND
HD7:
+ 16Gb
-/+ SD Card (whatever way you look at that. Slow, but BIG and expandable)
- Washed screen colours (compared to Omnia)
That's the basic jist! Everything else is almost the same. So do you want storage or screen?
save your money and buy a trophy. i know, its not a common opinion, but besides the smaller screen it is capable of all that the other devices can do. only downside for me is if your are looking at the screen at an wider angle it sort of bleeches out, colors do lighten up. but why would you do that? during normal usage there is no problem at all with the screen.
besides the screen i do not see anything "midrange" here.
i like my trophy, no need to upgrade.
nehvada said:
save your money and buy a trophy. i know, its not a common opinion, but besides the smaller screen it is capable of all that the other devices can do. only downside for me is if your are looking at the screen at an wider angle it sort of bleeches out, colors do lighten up. but why would you do that? during normal usage there is no problem at all with the screen.
besides the screen i do not see anything "midrange" here.
i like my trophy, no need to upgrade.
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Trophy is also 8Gb with, as you say, smaller screen. It does everything all other WP7 devices do alright, but it offers no advantages to buy it over the HD7.
HD7 is also cheaper (sim-free)
edit: Quick Google. Well, it's £380 on O2 over here, while the trophy is £350 unlocked. Not much difference
Not topic, but why not LG Optimus 7 - not available?
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tarakini said:
Not topic, but why not LG Optimus 7 - not available?
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That is what I get.....
the LG has hardware keys which i found too loose, no good build quality here. i would allways prefer hardware keys over touchpanel, but this one didnt make a good impression.
the HD7 with 8GB here in germany is an average of 70,- € more expensive than the trophy, the 16GB version a few bucks more. i call that a noticable difference.
the only thing that made me not choose the LG was I used one in a shop and didn't much care for the screen. it was still a great phone, but it didnt seem as bright as samsung and htc
Depends mainly which carrier you use as to which phone you ultimately get, but the HD7, in my opinion, is the creme of the crop. It isn't saddled with the low-quality AMOLED and it has the largest, superior quality, LCD of them all. The physical appearance is the most pronounced with black-chrome accents and elegant styling abounding. The silver mesh inserts at the top and bottom aren't just for show, either. They actually funnel sound from the rear speaker. The high-quality kickstand is a must for this super-sized LCD, for watching movies with too.
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Samsung Omnia 7 - People have good things to say about the load times on this phone, and of course the screen. I'm not totally sold on the industrial design and I currently have an AMOLED screen on my HTC Legend which sucks in sunlight, oversaturates colors and generally pisses me off.
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when i got my hands on this device (in a local shop) it felt really different compared to what i expected from screenshots and videos (in a negative way).
if a device is as big as this one it !HAS! to feel smaller than it is (like HD2/HD7 for example, it shouldn't "feel" that bulky).
This was a really nice phone in my opinion until first realtime-contact.
cheap plastic materials and it feels more like a prototype device than like a retail phone (sorry @ samsung).
another thing that got my attention after i had a look at the device was the screen.
as you may know, amoled screens are good when it comes down to display pictures/videos and color gradients (lockscreen wallpaper etc.).
but as soon as you take a look at the plain color tiles on homescreen, you can see quite a difference between LCD/SLCD and AMOLED.
The pixels on a amoled are not as "dense" as on lcd/slcd (means boarders of sub-pixels take more space).
it felt like a interlaced picture when i was watching the tiles (i had the hd2 and the mozart on me to compare side-by-side (believe me, both are superior).
simply said: major downside for metro ui (amoled) and it felt much cheaper than i expected.
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HTC Mozart - I've used the camera on this phone and really like it, but the back's a little ugly with that stupid triangle design. In case this phone has some kind of trump card I'm missing, it's at the bottom of the list
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i got myself a mozart (for free with contract) and don't regret it at all. best wp7 device for me. alu-unibody rocks!
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HTC 7 Trophy - I like the look of this phone but I keep reading reviews saying it's midrange. I'm coming from a midrange device and I don't wanna be left behind - I don't see how anything with a 1ghz processor and a screen like this is midrange, but whatever.
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i also had a chance to take a look at this device. to make it short:
this is one of the cheapest phones i ever saw from htc (not bad compared to LG but not the kind of quality htc is delivering usually).
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HTC HD7 - bit of a wild card option. Never had a phone with a screen this big but could be kinda cool, although all the reviews say the viewing angles are a bit crap
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if you really want a 4.3" phone, my advice would be: get yourself a hd2..
i don't see any benefit in using such a big screen for wp7 (well not for now; for wm6.5.X i do of course). if you really want/need wp7, my advice is: take the mozart.
my opinion:
if you want a beast of a mobile-computer with phone-capabilities and much more (Android, HTC Sense, custom roms etc): HD2
if you want a phone with some media/social capabilities but no "personal-computer-feeling", get yourself a WP7 device (i hope you can get my point).
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HD2Owner said:
if a device is as big as this one it !HAS! to feel smaller than it is (like HD2/HD7 for example, it shouldn't "feel" that bulky).
This was a really nice phone in my opinion until first realtime-contact.
cheap plastic materials and it feels more like a prototype device than like a retail phone (sorry @ samsung).
another thing that got my attention after i had a look at the device was the screen.
as you may know, amoled screens are good when it comes down to display pictures/videos and color gradients (lockscreen wallpaper etc.).
but as soon as you take a look at the plain color tiles on homescreen, you can see quite a difference between LCD/SLCD and AMOLED.
The pixels on a amoled are not as "dense" as on lcd/slcd (means boarders of sub-pixels take more space).
it felt like a interlaced picture when i was watching the tiles (i had the hd2 and the mozart on me to compare side-by-side (believe me, both are superior).
simply said: major downside for metro ui (amoled) and it felt much cheaper than i expected.
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Just to clear things up, the Omnia 7 actually has a metal body, glass front, and some plastic parts for the top and bottom of the device.
I can compare my Omnia 7 (4in screen) with my older Touch HD (3.8in), which also has the same screen tech as the HD2/HD7 (since they don't use SLCD) and considering the Touch HD has a higher pixel density than the Omnia7/HD2/HD7, I really can't see how you can say the HD2 was superior considering its the same resolution at a bigger screen size. The Touch HD was JUST noticebly sharper than my Omnia 7, but nothing major, I fail to see how HD2 can look sharper than my Touch HD, making you say its easily superior to the Omnia 7's screen.
I would believe you if you JUST said Mozart regarding its sharpness, considering it has a smaller screen at 3.7in, same resolution and has SLCD, but the HD2.... really?
btw considering the Omnia 7 has a bigger screen than my Touch HD, i actually find it feels smaller in the hands due to the curved back, than my Touch HD. The Omnia 7 took a while to getting used to cus its curved back mixed with a metal body equals a very slippery combination ><
All the slamming on SAMOLED is unwarranted. Especially in the case of the Metro UI on WP7. SAMOLED really makes the UI stand out. This is mostly because there is so much use of black backgrounds and borders. The highly vivid color saturation is also very noticeable. I imagine if you were to hold the screen an inch from your face and squint, you might be able to notice some minor difference in pixels.
We don't get the HD7 on AT&T, but the Surround has the same display. The Surround display does not hold a candle to SAMOLED in most ways. Yes, it should have sharper text of SAMOLED, but nothing that is bothersome or really even noticeable, unless you are searching for it.
For the record, I am an HTC fan over Samsung 99% of the time. But in the case of WP7, SAMOLED wins.
HD2Owner said:
when i got my hands on this device (in a local shop) it felt really different compared to what i expected from screenshots and videos (in a negative way).
if a device is as big as this one it !HAS! to feel smaller than it is (like HD2/HD7 for example, it shouldn't "feel" that bulky).
This was a really nice phone in my opinion until first realtime-contact.
cheap plastic materials and it feels more like a prototype device than like a retail phone (sorry @ samsung).
another thing that got my attention after i had a look at the device was the screen.
as you may know, amoled screens are good when it comes down to display pictures/videos and color gradients (lockscreen wallpaper etc.).
but as soon as you take a look at the plain color tiles on homescreen, you can see quite a difference between LCD/SLCD and AMOLED.
The pixels on a amoled are not as "dense" as on lcd/slcd (means boarders of sub-pixels take more space).
it felt like a interlaced picture when i was watching the tiles (i had the hd2 and the mozart on me to compare side-by-side (believe me, both are superior).
simply said: major downside for metro ui (amoled) and it felt much cheaper than i expected.
i got myself a mozart (for free with contract) and don't regret it at all. best wp7 device for me. alu-unibody rocks!
i also had a chance to take a look at this device. to make it short:
this is one of the cheapest phones i ever saw from htc (not bad compared to LG but not the kind of quality htc is delivering usually).
if you really want a 4.3" phone, my advice would be: get yourself a hd2.. far more possibilities when it comes down to media playback (especially video)
i don't see any benefit in using such a big screen for wp7 (well not for now; for wm6.5.X i do of course). if you really want/need wp7, my advice is: take the mozart.
my opinion:
if you want a beast of a mobile-computer with phone-capabilities and much more (Android, HTC Sense, custom roms etc): HD2
if you want a phone with some media/social capabilities but no "personal-computer-feeling", get yourself a WP7 device (i hope you can get my point).
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and what videos can you play on your hd2, that I can't play on my wp7???
And I have netflix....
For the OP, there is no right phone. I picked the hd7 because I loved the hd2 and didn't want to get a smaller screen. This whole viewing angle thing is overblown. I can show someone a video on my phone and watch it from the side just fine. Videos can't be beat on a 4.3 in screen for a cell phone.
I had a chance to play with everything bar the HD7 today, gonna post my thoughts in case anybody else is in a state of indecision like I am
Mozart: This is a really, really great phone. top notch build quality, absolutely stunning display (IMO, better color reproduction than SAMOLED, but I'm not trying to belittle it) and I quite liked the camera too. Again, still unsure about the goofy triangle pattern on the back
Omnia 7: I can see why so many people are in love with this handset, but two things made me not want it. First, the metal back was purple. Didn't realise that from any of the photos but I'm not keen on owning a purple phone. Second, the SAMOLED screen went dim grey every time white came up on a webpage etc. I'm sure it's for good power saving reasons, but that would get annoying over time for me
HTC Trophy: this was weird. the touchscreen on the trial version in the vodafone shop was completely screwy compared to the HTC Mozart. i don't know if they had a faulty handset or if the trophy has a much less sensitive screen, perhaps it was the oil on my fingers or something (sometimes my HTC legend struggles with that).
Good thread.
What's the key difference between the Samsung Focus & the Omnia 7?
To date, I've played with the Mozart & the LG slider. My current mobile has a slide out keyboard, but I found the on screen keyboard on the Mozart worked so well that it pretty much renders a slide out keyboard superfluous.
I really like the Windows Phone 7 UI. Yeah, I know all the geeks are bemoaning it’s lack of features, but what it has works really well.
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So I am brand new to the whole smart phone market. My old phone took a poo and decided to not work so I figured it was a great time to upgrade and join the new era of smart phones.
I knew nothing about smart phones but knew Ihad to go with t-mobile so I could be undercontract with my gf.
HD2 was all over the the tv/internet so I thought it was the new badass phone so I figured I would just got for it.
When I went to the t-mobile stand they didnt have any because they were selling so fast. I looked at their options and got the mytouch 3g. Brought the phone home and had a blast with the android market, it was so easy to use. Couple days later I went back to buy a case for the mytouch 3g but when I got to the stand they said they just got 6 HD2s in and I could trade in for it. Since it was the phone I wanted I did it.
Took my new HD2 hope and started to mess with it, confused as heck, way different with windows mobile. The phone was fast looked amazing but was not as fun.
Now Im torn what to do.
I guess what Im really trying to do is get input from people who know the market and how these phones will go. Will the HD2 be able to compete with the android market at all? A buddy said Microsoft trys to hard with Windows Mobile to compete but they always fall behind when it comes to phones. Or will the Android market just stay way ahead of the curve?
Thats my rant, I just dont want to regret trading in my HD2 because its still so new on the market.
just got rid of mine...ive dealt with windows mobile too much...i loved the phone but without android on it i feel its not worth it...ive got android on my xperia x1 and love it...just wish i had the big screen like the hd2...i personally suggest you get the nexus one...its an overall better phone and has a fairly big screen along with android....your best bet for now atleast
The HD2 is really nice and fast, but honestly, android is still sort of BETA still. You know what i'm saying? They haven't established completely like Apple. evenutally , Android market will be filled with neat stuff.
I think android is way better than windows mobile.
maybe not apple by games, but eventualy and hopefully, android gets better games and graphics.
And your right, maybe HD2 isn't the "right" time to get it now because it's still new. The android market is still damn new too!
Thanks to Google's unrestricted (like Apple) market, we will eventually take over
I agree I do like the Nexus one from what I have researched but the problem is its $530. Even though Im a new t-mobile customer I still have to get Googles t-mobile 1 person plan for the reduced rate when Im on a family plan atm.
if you are beyond the point where you can return your phone, I would be interested in getting it off your hands. I love the HD2. My wife has it and it is beyond fast. Flashed a custom rom on it and even the splash screen is cool.
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the nexus one...its an overall better phone
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No.
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the only reason i using HD2 cus of the huge 4.3" screen!, it so comfortable for the eyes!
i hate the freaking capacitive screen! sometime you need to zoom in the texts AS BIG as your finger for it to responds!
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Maybe for U, but for many the N1 is state of the art & much better!
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Maybe for U, but for many the N1 is state of the art & much better!
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No.
Especially to the state-of-the-art part. The HD2 has a better screen than the Nexus One. The HD2 has more hardware RAM than the Nexus One.
The choice is simply Android OS on the Nexus One vs. WinMo on the HD2. The Nexus One's only hardware advantage is the noise-cancellation via the auxiliary microphone, and the trackball that not many actually use. Screen and hardware RAM are probably a bigger deal though.
The EVO 4G is probably the only Android phone from HTC worth getting right now since it doesn't have the god-awful Pentile AMOLED display they use in the Nexus One, Incredible, and Desire.
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No.
Especially to the state-of-the-art part. The HD2 has a better screen than the Nexus One. The HD2 has more hardware RAM than the Nexus One.
The choice is simply Android OS on the Nexus One vs. WinMo on the HD2. The Nexus One's only hardware advantage is the noise-cancellation via the auxiliary microphone, and the trackball that not many actually use. Screen and hardware RAM are probably a bigger deal though.
The EVO 4G is probably the only Android phone from HTC worth getting right now since it doesn't have the god-awful Pentile AMOLED display they use in the Nexus One, Incredible, and Desire.
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someone sounds bitter.
the screen is a matter of opinion, and it sounds like you've been reading too many tech blogs.
i've compared them both, and i prefer the screen on the Nexus, and so has everyone else that has compared their screen to the AMOLED display on the Nexus. (providing you keep it out of the sunlight)
both the Nexus and HD2 have 512MB of ram(yes, i'm aware the US HD2 has slightly more), and Android is far better with memory management then WM is anyway, so that's a non issue.
and i used my trackball all the time. and who can complain about an extra hardware feature? just dont use it if you don't want it. a legitimate complaint would be the capacitive buttons. those are a PITA until you get used to them.
to the OP, buy the phone you want. but if you liked the mytouch you will LOVE the Nexus. there is absolutely no comparison between the two.
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the screen is a matter of opinion, and it sounds like you've been reading too many tech blogs.
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screen size does matter!
i used sony x1 with 3" screen, then Acer neotouch with 3.8 screen, now hd2 with huge 4.3" screen! you can see the different! bigger is better! just try to upgrade your pc monitor to bigger size, and you will see alot more comfortable to the eyes!
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someone sounds bitter.
the screen is a matter of opinion, and it sounds like you've been reading too many tech blogs.
i've compared them both, and i prefer the screen on the Nexus, and so has everyone else that has compared their screen to the AMOLED display on the Nexus. (providing you keep it out of the sunlight)
both the Nexus and HD2 have 512MB of ram(yes, i'm aware the US HD2 has slightly more), and Android is far better with memory management then WM is anyway, so that's a non issue.
and i used my trackball all the time. and who can complain about an extra hardware feature? just dont use it if you don't want it. a legitimate complaint would be the capacitive buttons. those are a PITA until you get used to them.
to the OP, buy the phone you want. but if you liked the mytouch you will LOVE the Nexus. there is absolutely no comparison between the two.
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All HD2s have 576MB of RAM, not 512MB. The only exception is the Prototype HTC HD2s (Pro.Three) which have 384MB of RAM or thereabouts.
The Nexus One's screen is inferior not only in terms of size but also in terms of color accuracy, sunlight legibility (as you mentioned), and effective resolution. It possesses higher contrast and is comparable in terms of viewing angles, battery life, and power consumption. Yes, I have also seen both devices -- I owned the Nexus One previously.
Also forgot to mention the Nexus One has a bigger battery, but I'm not sure you'd be able to tell with what I've seen.
Don't get me wrong, the Nexus One is a great device. But there is no excuse for arguing the fallacy that the Nexus One is superior hardware to the HD2 -- this is simply not the case. That is a matter of software alone.
Ok so I'm fed up with the garbage that us Canadians have in terms of WP7 launch devices. I hate that every year we end up with the crap phones while T-Mobile and others get all the great ones.
So I'm considering ending my 10 yr run with Telus and reducing my monthly bill in half by trying out either Mobilicity or Wind Mobile. At the same time I have the additional benefits of choosing from any of T-Mobile's phones for use here.
So that leaves me to choose now between the HTC HD7 and the Dell Venue Pro. I am completely up to date on the rumours, bugs and issues each device has. I just need to know for all of you which device you think I should choose (even if it means waiting until Jan).
Btw I am a previous owner of the HD2 and loved it aside from the glitchy OS. And currently using an iPhone 4 as my temp phone (barf).
I was waiting for the DVP but got an HD7 because it was available and I think support would be better with a physical store to perform exchanges. The DVP has obvious advantages like the scratch resistant glass, keyboard and AMOLED screen but even with the shortcomings of the HD7 like battery life, pink tint on the camera (which I can remove using Windows Live Photo Gallery) and LCD screen I am enjoying the OS immensely. Even the recent antenna issue I can cope with and I have ordered a silicone case.
The big unknown is if Dell can deliver a device that works well enough that it would only need a few software updates to fix and until they release it no one can tell. But for those who have had both the DVP seems to be the preferred choice so if you can wait it may be the one for you. Follow the #dellvenuepro tag on twitter to get the latest news and user impressions, best source of info on the DVP vs HD7.
I would say Dell Venue Pro, despite all the current launch problems.
The Dell has a great Amoled screen + Qwerty keyboard.
EDIT: I thought the Dell Venu Pro had flash NAND storage. Apparently not.
The Dell's memory is provided completely by SD card, there is no NAND memory onboard. And while the HD7 camera certainly isn't the best available it beats the Dell in irts current form hands down.
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The Dell's memory is provided completely by SD card, there is no NAND memory onboard. And while the HD7 camera certainly isn't the best available it beats the Dell in irts current form hands down.
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Oh really. Sorry then. I was sure it had
I will edit my previous post.
T-Mobile doesn't have the Dell Venue Pro, they only have the HD7, but I find the HD7 to be the choice phone even if the Dell were available. The HD7 is basically a beautified HD2 with it s black-chrome surround, silver mesh inserts at top and bottom that also conduct sound from the rear speaker. The kickstand is superior to the one on the HTC Evo and the overall build quality of the HD7 is superb. Granted, I had 3 previous HD7s before the one I now have. The first three were faulty and now I have one that is 99.99% perfect. The .01% shortfall is due to a tiny dent or deformity along the rear edge of the chrome surround. If it wasn't for that, this would be a perfect phone.
However, even with the 3 faulty HD7s prior to this one, I still chose to have one because of the gorgeousness and style as well as the excellent hardware specs. If the Dell's AMOLED is anything like other AMOLEDs, I wouldn't have chosen it because of the lack of small text detail. AMOLED is great for movies and pictures but poor for text detail. I saw a Samsung Focus at a local AT&T and was stricken by how much less attractive the main page tiles were in comparison to the other two offerings which used regular LCD tech. The tiles of the AMOLED seemd to have color bleed or a lack of sharpness to the pixels.
If you are mainly into movies and pictures on the device, the Dell might be more pleasing for you with its AMOLED. If you are more into an information device, where text definition is important, the HD7 would be the better choice. I love the style of the Dell, but I love the style of the HD7 more.
I say neither.
Dell Venue Pro
I've been using the HD7 for a bit over a week now and it's really a well built device.
I should warn though that it has a major flaw - the battery. My phone was fully charged this about 7am this morning, no calls and just 10mins of internet browsing. Battery died at 6pm. I'll be swapping it for the Venue Pro when that comes out.
I should warn that I have no idea how the DVP battery will hold up, but as a starter, the smaller screen will help.
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I've been using the HD7 for a bit over a week now and it's really a well built device.
I should warn though that it has a major flaw - the battery. My phone was fully charged this about 7am this morning, no calls and just 10mins of internet browsing. Battery died at 6pm. I'll be swapping it for the Venue Pro when that comes out.
I should warn that I have no idea how the DVP battery will hold up, but as a starter, the smaller screen will help.
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To conserve battery life, turn off the GPS. I do this and only use GPS when it's needed...like in the car, where I have it plugged into power. Major battery saver.
imoses44 said:
I've been using the HD7 for a bit over a week now and it's really a well built device.
I should warn though that it has a major flaw - the battery. My phone was fully charged this about 7am this morning, no calls and just 10mins of internet browsing. Battery died at 6pm. I'll be swapping it for the Venue Pro when that comes out.
I should warn that I have no idea how the DVP battery will hold up, but as a starter, the smaller screen will help.
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how are you going to swap it? By the time the dell is available, you will be past t-mobile's 2week return window....
I wanted the dell VP until it had all the launch problems. I think HTC is a better mobile phone manufacturer.
Great feedback everyone..
Seems like the poll is leaning towards the DVP but comments seem to lean towards the HD7..
I used to own the HD2 so I remember all too well the battery issues. But I was the guy with the extra charger on my desk at work at left it plugged in all day long so I quickly became used to it. I do miss the larger screen especially when compared to this temporary 3.5" screen.
Viewing pictures, surfing the net and playing games (so mostly media) would be where most of my time would be spent on this phone. Really the only thing I like on DVP over the HD7 is AMOLED screen and believe it or not the styling.
Can anyone say for certain whether or not the screen on the HD7 is actually an improvement over the HD2? And if so if it would be a noticeable improvement?
The screens on the HD2 and HD7 are identical, I have Transformers on both devices and pausing at the same screen shows them to be using the same screen.
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I say neither.
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really man... if you've got nothing to contribute, don't bother. i'm sick of seeing you do this on every place that ask these sorts of questions.
as for which to get, i would probably go with HD7 as the on screen keyboard is massive enough that not having physical keys would be close to a non-issue.
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The screens on the HD2 and HD7 are identical, I have Transformers on both devices and pausing at the same screen shows them to be using the same screen.
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Wow that's a bit of a disappointment since they claim the HD7 sports a "Super" LCD screen. I do remember the washed out screen on my HD2.
Maybe the bigger issue is that I'm impatient and feel like waiting for January for a DVP only to POSSIBLY find out it's still plagued with more issues.
Besides isn't the DVP the heaviest of the bunch?
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Wow that's a bit of a disappointment since they claim the HD7 sports a "Super" LCD screen. I do remember the washed out screen on my HD2.
Maybe the bigger issue is that I'm impatient and feel like waiting for January for a DVP only to POSSIBLY find out it's still plagued with more issues.
Besides isn't the DVP the heaviest of the bunch?
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I've never seen specs or reviews claiming the HD7 has a SLCD. Do you have a link I can look at?
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really man... if you've got nothing to contribute, don't bother. i'm sick of seeing you do this on every place that ask these sorts of questions.
as for which to get, i would probably go with HD7 as the on screen keyboard is massive enough that not having physical keys would be close to a non-issue.
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It's my opinion and if I had to choose, I'd choose to wait. Plain and simple. I'm hoping that ASUS WP7 device shows up on T-Mobile sooner or later.
If I was able to make that choice, my snap decision would be the DVP, based almost solely on how much I really like how it looks in pictures. Pure liquid sex.
But then, I'm really used to having a good physical keyboard (Tilt2), and anything with a physical keyboard innately calls to me.
However, since I've sold my eternal soul to AT&T, my choices were a little different, and I could not justify the choice with the physical keyboard, despite the fact that it actually does feel really surprisingly good in the hand. Losing half an inch of screen was too much. Had to go with the Focus.
So yeah, I really don't know where I intended to go with this, but I guess my reply is to stop thinking so hard about it. If you can't wait, then your choice is made by default. If you can wait, wait. Then play around with both. No matter what jerks on the internet say, once you hold them in your hands, you will know.
But then, if you have no way of physically handling a unit before purchasing, and you are OK with relying on the opinion of a guy who has no chance to own either, then go with the Dell!
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If I was able to make that choice, my snap decision would be the DVP, based almost solely on how much I really like how it looks in pictures. Pure liquid sex.
But then, I'm really used to having a good physical keyboard (Tilt2), and anything with a physical keyboard innately calls to me.
However, since I've sold my eternal soul to AT&T, my choices were a little different, and I could not justify the choice with the physical keyboard, despite the fact that it actually does feel really surprisingly good in the hand. Losing half an inch of screen was too much. Had to go with the Focus.
So yeah, I really don't know where I intended to go with this, but I guess my reply is to stop thinking so hard about it. If you can't wait, then your choice is made by default. If you can wait, wait. Then play around with both. No matter what jerks on the internet say, once you hold them in your hands, you will know.
But then, if you have no way of physically handling a unit before purchasing, and you are OK with relying on the opinion of a guy who has no chance to own either, then go with the Dell!
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Lol great advice thanks!
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I've never seen specs or reviews claiming the HD7 has a SLCD. Do you have a link I can look at?
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As for the SLCD screen most of the spec sheets I read show the display as having that. Not saying it's fact just saying that's what seemed to be advertised. If you google "HD7 SLCD" you'll find quite a few matches..
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As for the SLCD screen most of the spec sheets I read show the display as having that. Not saying it's fact just saying that's what seemed to be advertised. If you google "HD7 SLCD" you'll find quite a few matches..
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But you wont find it listed on HTC's site, which is what would matter most. And those sites stating that it has SLCD probably just copied from one another, thats the way the internet works these days. I do agree on one thing, the screen size does make it a lot easier to type on and the autocorrect and prediction also add to the ease of text entry. I have posted on forums from my HD7 more in 1 week than in the 6 months I had the HD2.
As you say, you could end up waiting for the Dell only to find out its still got huge problems, but that may be the best option since at least that way you would have the info to make the best decision. 2011 is only 4 weeks and some days away, so its not really that too long to wait.
I love the phone in everyway...but...Im disappointed with the screen. I had a Fascinate before it, and while everything about it sucked, the screen was beautiful! I guess i got spoiled with the amoled. Whats everyone elses opinion here. Im contemplating returning it, hoping the bionic has a better screen.
yeah, the Thunderbolt's screen doesn't even come close to the Fascinate. I had the two side-by-side last night and the difference especially at max brightness was quite noticeable. I also noticed that angry birds isn't as smooth and fluid on the Bolt as the Fascinate but other than that, the Thunderbolt easily outdoes the Fascinate.
I guess the amoled screens are too expensive to manufacture. I will not even consider the stealth from sammy. I have given up with them as a cellphone manufacturer...the fasc is STILL running eclair...A big FAIL on sammies end.
At least we wont get screen burn in's like amoled gets.
i went from an iPhone 4 to an evo, so dropped resoultion going to a bigger screen, and actually thought it looked great, to then this phone, and I have to say, the screen on this phone for me is fantastic. I think it is maybe a little to warm sometimes, as when showing flesh tones, but I would assume that like for the evo, we will be able to change that over time.
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I guess the amoled screens are too expensive to manufacture. I will not even consider the stealth from sammy. I have given up with them as a cellphone manufacturer...the fasc is STILL running eclair...A big FAIL on sammies end.
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cant really blame samsung. verizon is the final say and they usally are slow to approve/disapprove any updates. just like their phone releases
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cant really blame samsung. verizon is the final say and they usally are slow to approve/disapprove any updates. just like their phone releases
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no, this happens among all the carriers. Samsung is the slowest cell phone MFG to release updates for their current phone models. Unless the list changed, and I would have to go find it on engadget, HTC was the highest, and above samsung by a good deal.
I know what you mean coming from the Incredible. But I've gotten used to the slcd just don't look at your other for a while. I think its pointless to look for perfection especially on a phone screen. You'd need a color calibrated broadcast monitor for perfection. One thing i noticed is the slcd is much better in direct sunlight. So a little less brightness and clarity keeping in mind I can't really notice at normal viewing distances and the fact that you can see the screen outside seems like an ok trade off. (Yes if you hold it really close to your eyes and study it you can but... Just my thoughts on it.
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i went from an iPhone 4 to an evo, so dropped resoultion going to a bigger screen, and actually thought it looked great, to then this phone, and I have to say, the screen on this phone for me is fantastic. I think it is maybe a little to warm sometimes, as when showing flesh tones, but I would assume that like for the evo, we will be able to change that over time.
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Went out for a walk yesterday w/the Bolt using Cardio Trainer, my god it was impossible to see the screen in the sun ... didn't feel like trying to tweak settings, make brighter, etc., while I was on the move - but will do so next time before I start the run just in case I want to see where I'm at.
I definitely notice a difference between the AMOLED Incredible (my wife's phone, formerly mine) and the TB. The colors are off - too brilliant in the wrong way. Blues are purplish and Reds are off too. Its even worse when comparing to the iPhone, which is what I have been carrying lately. Not happy with it - the crispness of the iPhone makes this look blown out. As my wife said "It's like the iPhone is HD and the Thunderbolt is SD." The additional real estate is nice, but definitely prefer the Inc AMOLED and the iPhone Retina.
Ooof.
Wonder if Verizon will follow suit with Sprint. An LTE Nexus S would be money.
Its not like its your living room featured TV. You guys must have some superb vision or something, but I am satisfied, but some people you cant just please.
Beggars can't be choosers. Either go with a company who don't update your software ever or go with one that does. Most important to me with my phone is properly functioning software.
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Wonder if Verizon will follow suit with Sprint. An LTE Nexus S would be money.
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No...its gonna be the samsung stealth.
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Its not like its your living room featured TV. You guys must have some superb vision or something, but I am satisfied, but some people you cant just please.
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I don't personally do video/photo editing on my phone or watch movies, which is the only reasons I could think of a screen truly mattering. I have the DROID Incredible currently w/ the AMOLED and well generally I can't really tell any functional difference between it and the Thunderbolt screen I played with in a Verizon store after ordering one for myself (arrives tomorrow).
I am a bit of a video/audiophile but only on things like my TV & computer monitors, but can't see why it'd matter for such a small screen either.
Has anyone had any experience w/ the Thunderbolt in direct sunlight? I can't see anything on my Incredible when it's in the sun. I could at least get a vague idea w/ my old iPhone 3G... which I find a more important factor than the color quality/pixel density on a phone.
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Its not like its your living room featured TV. You guys must have some superb vision or something, but I am satisfied, but some people you cant just please.
Beggars can't be choosers. Either go with a company who don't update your software ever or go with one that does. Most important to me with my phone is properly functioning software.
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I get what you are saying, but your cavalier dismissal ignores the fact that other devices exist that have superior quality. Its not like I am wishing for something ideal that isnt possible. One might expect that when paying top dollar for a "flagship" device you would get some good quality hardware. Not saying the device is flawed, just that the screen definitely isnt as good as phones that came a year before it.
As for properly functioning software, I doubt you could argue that this is functioning perfectly - maybe for you it is and maybe my experiences are anecdotal but I and my coworker are experiencing random reboots, problems with calendar sync, and data transfer problems where you have to reboot to resume connection. I will also volunteer that our Verizon rep said she is seeing very high return rates on the Thunderbolt due to software issues. Again, maybe anecdotal and maybe "some people you just can't please" but sometimes good enough isnt enough in the face of alternatives that work better out of the gate.
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I love the phone in everyway...but...Im disappointed with the screen. I had a Fascinate before it, and while everything about it sucked, the screen was beautiful! I guess i got spoiled with the amoled. Whats everyone elses opinion here. Im contemplating returning it, hoping the bionic has a better screen.
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The amoiled screen has a amazing color saturation; however the low subpixel count makes text look very pixelated. I much prefer the slcd screen for viewing web pages. Makes the small text so much clearer. I had the Nexus S prior to this phone and I think the Thunderbolt is much nicer overall, including the display (for my usage).
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I love the phone in everyway...but...Im disappointed with the screen. I had a Fascinate before it, and while everything about it sucked, the screen was beautiful! I guess i got spoiled with the amoled. Whats everyone elses opinion here. Im contemplating returning it, hoping the bionic has a better screen.
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The bionic will have a better qhd screen but if it is like the atrix then it I'd using the pentile matrix and will more than likely look even more "fuzzy" than the bolt. Do a Google search for arstechnica pentile matrix they have a great article on it and after using super lcd on my incredible (I had the amoled version as well and the nexus one) I much prefer the super lcd to any amoled with pentile. Plus the bionic won't even have the better colors like amoled. That is a big fail on motorola for making their first qhd screens pentile. I have to believe the screen on the thunderbolt will have to look better.
OK, there is definately major variences between screens on different phones. I just got a replacement for a dead speaker, and well...the screen has much more contrast, and does not wash out much at an angle. Im suprised to see such a difference between the 2.
I actually love this screen. I came from the Nexus One AMOLED screen and I prefer the TBolt. The screen is brighter on the Tbolt and the colors are just ever so slightly less saturated than the AMOLED which is actually a good thing in some cases(movies and skin tones)
I'm with you, I miss the blacks of my amoled dinc.
Courtesy of Lisa @ Mobile Tech Review
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=40455
It's a sleeper. Sites that should stick to simply reporting news instead of reviewing made bad remarks about the phone, back around MWC and CTIA.
As for Lisa's review, she knows what she is a credible source of info. When she makes a statement like "dropping her Nexus S over the G2X", there is weight to that statement.
If I were to grade the phone, I would give it a 8.5 which is a whole grade, maybe even more than what I would give to any other current T-Mobile phone.
It seems that she really liked G2X and prefer it more than her nexus S. Good initial review overall, she's a credible and unbiased tech-reviewer so i can take her words
That really is a great review
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That really is a great review
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+1 i thought it was a good job.
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Sleeper of the year imo. I wonder if it has full hdmi mirroring? Haven't seen it mentioned yet. Not a deal breaker if it doesn't have it. Notice how the g2x ips display outshines sammy's vaunted super amoled screen. Didn't see that coming
Very impressed by LG lately. 1st to market with a dual core phone, also 1st and only to the market with a OMAP4 phone, IPS and HDMI, not encrypting bootloader...
I hope the G2X sells really well, LG deserves Motorola customers to migrate over to LG.
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Sleeper of the year imo. I wonder if it has full hdmi mirroring? Haven't seen it mentioned yet. Not a deal breaker if it doesn't have it. Notice how the g2x ips display outshines sammy's vaunted super amoled screen. Didn't see that coming
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Lisa said in her video review that it does have HDMI mirroring.
Also, surprised the display is better than the Sammys.
Unless you see them in person, you can't really compare them. After all, you are viewing a super amoled screen on a lcd computer moniter. Trust me, I never though super amoled was much of an improvement over the Nexus One's amoled screen, but big difference in person.
It looked to me that the Nexus S didn't have brightness turned up all the way. I'm doubtful that when I compare my Vibrant and G2X side by side in a store (and I will) that the G2X display will be better. Still, I'm highly interested in this phone. Enough to buy it outright, possibly. Just wish I knew if SGSII would be coming to T-Mobile, and when.
I can tell G2x has pretty good screen if it's not better than SGS (including NS).
The phone itself is snappy and the screen has pretty good response.
It has 2GB for applications and 5GB for others (mass storage).
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I would be very surprised if the reviewer (Lisa is the site admin/owner) made such a rook mistake in her review. I played with a g2x at my local tmo store that had a g2x demo phone. The display looked excellent even at less than 50% brightness.
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I would be very surprised if the reviewer (Lisa is the site admin/owner) made such a rook mistake in her review. I played with a g2x at my local tmo store that had a g2x demo phone. The display looked excellent even at less than 50% brightness.
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the nexus S does look like it's turned down low (for every day use i reckon?); i know i have the o2x down to the lowest possible at night; damn it's bright! I can only compare it to a cm7 loaded dhd and my pref. is almost no light at all at night and if i'd take a screeny now it would show the o2x 10x brighter then the dhd. Doesn't mean they are tuned for the same brightness though
The o2x screen is awesome don't get me wrong
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Very impressed by LG lately. 1st to market with a dual core phone, also 1st and only to the market with a OMAP4 phone, IPS and HDMI, not encrypting bootloader...
I hope the G2X sells really well, LG deserves Motorola customers to migrate over to LG.
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Agreed. To hell with Motorola. It cracks me up how their "high end" phones like the Droid X are terrible performance wise. Every graphics intensive game's reviews are full of complaints by Motorola users that the game simply cannot run. The Atrix on the other hand is very cool; however,the encrypted bootloader and AT&T destroy it
I compared my NS to the G2x yeaterday, Google maps at the same location and both brightnesses turned up to max. The LG screen is more vibrant, crisp and has better colors. But still doesn't beat the blacks of sammys SMOLED screen.
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I compared my NS to the G2x yeaterday, Google maps at the same location and both brightnesses turned up to max. The LG screen is more vibrant, crisp and has better colors. But still doesn't beat the blacks of sammys SMOLED screen.
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I just got done doing the same thing at a t mobile store by me, and I would have to agree blacks are the only thing the sammy screen does better.
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Is the website down? For some reason I can't get it to open in Chrome. Tried IE9 too.
The G2x screen is definitely better than a SGS and NS. More vibrant, crisp and has more realistic colors. Though i must agree that a superamoled black is still better than IPS's black. What i love about the screen is that it's bright and even under direct sunlight, you can easily see what's on the screen. So if you came from NS or SGS, you won't be feeling that you did some downgrade on the screen department
I stopped by the store for some hands on time with the demo unit. (On a side note, people like the strangest apps. Stuff that was installed on the phone made me go WTF a couple of times) Despite the abuse the phone took, it ran very well.It feels very good in hand and good build quality, no creaking or visible gaps.
As for the screen, the review was dead on, not that I doubted Lisa to begin with. I've been following her work for 3 years now, I would describe her as a real cell phone guru.
The display looks very crisp and colors are very natural.
I fired up this site to get a feel for the display: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/02/pakistan_daily_life.html
While AMOLED is still better at displaying black, the IPS takes the cake in every other category.
I would be hard pressed to find a flaw in the way it performs. As for the looks (more so the back of the phone) it's a matter of taste. I would have preferred a flat back with no camera bulge and a less "look at me" metal strip. Ideally the strip should have served as a kick stand since it was already part of the phone.
As for the front of the phone, there is very little one OEM can do when displays take up ~90% of the surface. While I can live with capacitive buttons, call me old fashioned because I am still hoping for a phone with actual buttons. I think a phone with physical buttons could top all else and in the process make distinction to stand out compared to all other slabs on the market.
The O2X has been out for quite some time considering how smartphones age fast, I don't think it's fair to compare it to phones that aren't even out yet.
As a T-Mobile customer, I really appreciate high end phones since they have been very hard to come by.
It definitely deserves to be treated like another Nexus phone with it's minimal deviation from the stock google experience, not just UI but the bootloader aspect as well. The fact that it's HSPA+ capable on all GSM networks in the US is important as well.
After seeing that review, I'm literally salivating. When she hooked up the phone to the TV and played back a 1080p video with no stutter whatsoever to be noted, I was sold. Playing my mobile games on the TV - awesome. But the device was so snappy it was incredible! The only lag I noticed was when NOVA was first starting but I've noticed all Gameloft games seem to take forever and two centuries to load up...
And that screen is just... absolutely incredibly stunning and smooth. Keep in mind that S-AMOLED use the pentile matrix display... essentially cutting your actual resolution in half. This is why S-LCD and other LCD technologies (including IPS) tend to have more readability on the same screen size. HUGE downside for S-AMOLED. There is a marked difference in the pixellation on my S-AMOLED Captivate and my regular old LCD EVO and my S-LCD Inspire. I find it easier to read smaller text on the two LCD devices than the S-AMOLED device and I'm willing to trade that off for less darkness in my blacks.
Anyone can comment on going from a much bigger screen phone like the note 2's 5.5 inch, to the much smaller 4.5 inch of the lumia 1020? This was honestly my biggest complaint about the lumia 1020. I cant really see myself using a screen smaller than 4,7 inches. I tried out the lumia 1020 at the store and when i put my finger on it to change settings or view a recent photo, it just consumed the whole screen. Its hard to judge screen size at the store (my ipad feels way bigger at home then the ones on display). I dunno if i'll get used to it or not. I've owned much smaller phones, like the 3.3 inch samsung wave, but going bigger is easier than going smaller i would imagine.
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Anyone can comment on going from a much bigger screen phone like the note 2's 5.5 inch, to the much smaller 4.5 inch of the lumia 1020? This was honestly my biggest complaint about the lumia 1020. I cant really see myself using a screen smaller than 4,7 inches. I tried out the lumia 1020 at the store and when i put my finger on it to change settings or view a recent photo, it just consumed the whole screen. Its hard to judge screen size at the store (my ipad feels way bigger at home then the ones on display). I dunno if i'll get used to it or not. I've owned much smaller phones, like the 3.3 inch samsung wave, but going bigger is easier than going smaller i would imagine.
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I have a Droid DNA that I use (that's a 5 inch screen), and I have no issues going back and forth between that and my 1020. Then again, I was never a huge fan of the bigger sized screens anyway. The screens on the Galaxy Note are way too big in my opinion. Even the DNA can get a little weird at times (thankfully its not my primary device).
I think the 4.5 inch area works the best for me. So I'm happy with it. It feels like a great middle ground between a sleeker and more compact phone but still having a larger screen.
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Lumia 1020 from Note 2.
Very Diferent?
I have both phones. You will miss the bigger screen and many features from android. The 1020 is nice hardware but screen is smaller and when browsing you really notice it.
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I have both phones. You will miss the bigger screen and many features from android. The 1020 is nice hardware but screen is smaller and when browsing you really notice it.
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I am still afraid of downsizing by a whole inch. It's hard to judge the impact until you actually start using the phone personally. The S4 at 5" feels small. The Lumia at 4.5" the viewfinder when taking pictures looked really small. And just tapping it with my big thumbs...
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I am still afraid of downsizing by a whole inch. It's hard to judge the impact until you actually start using the phone personally. The S4 at 5" feels small. The Lumia at 4.5" the viewfinder when taking pictures looked really small. And just tapping it with my big thumbs...
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I have both the phones and i can tell you it is very difficult to move from 5.5 inch to 4.5 inch and windows phone OS as much as i love the hardware and the camera. I really love the 5.5 inch screen and longer battery life on Note 2
it's windows phone....
I am not one for digging up obscure rumors from the corners of the internet, but NokiaPowerUser claims their sources say at least two or three versions of the Nokia phabet are being tested, one having the regular 8.7MP camera, and another having the 41MP camera. Previous leaks of the Lumia 1020 had pictures of both the plastic shell and a large metal body. We know which one it turned out to be in the end, but the large metal one is still intriguing as the hole in the back is quite a bit smaller than the plastic one, meaning the phone itself is bigger, and could be the phablet with 41MP sensor. Does anyone know how credible NokiaPowerUser and their sources are?
I am still waiting off on buying the Lumia 1020. The price is just too expensive, and I've been to the AT&T store 4 times already to try it out. Each time I pick it up the small screen and thick bezels really annoy me to no end. The black one looks even more archaic, since it adds to the black surround and makes the screen look even SMALLER. It also always looks like part of the screen on the bottom is cut off, because the bezel on the bottom is just so gigantic and that the screen should've extended further down. The squat aspect ratio doesn't work for a long phone. It's some weird design decision by Nokia I don't understand.
The cam pro app also annoys me. The top bar with all the settings listed just blocks everything on an already small view finder. Nokia could have shoved it to the very top edge, flattened it, and removed the "bar" 3D look blocking everything and just had the numbers overlaying over the screen. The previous image on the top left is also unintuitive. The phone shutter is on the right side, and the control dial is on the right side. It would stand to reason the right hand is for touching and tapping and pushing and the left hand to hold the phone. But having that image preview on the top left means you either have to stretch your right thumb across the screen to the top left, or loosen your left thumb to tap it and lose the bottom support it provides.
A phablet with the 41MP sensor isn't that ideal for me either, but I'll take it a million times over the Lumia 1020. I like the 5" and 5.2" sizes more. The Note 2 is already a bit unwieldy in many instances. I am quite smitten with the 5.2" screen that LG just showed off in the LG G2. It looks like the perfect combo for screensize/portability and the screen quality and viewing angles look more amazing than anything out there right now, including any and all AMOLEDs and the HTC One's screen.
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Its a Samsung...
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Its a Samsung...
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Who are currently the largest the phone maker and makes the best phones
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Thank goodness opinions are subjective. Haha.
I'm waiting on the Nokia phablet ?
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Thank goodness opinions are subjective. Haha.
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these are facts. google them, facts don't lie
I don't have the 1020, but I went from the Note 2 to the 920 and I missed the bigger screen. Now I'm back to a giant in the LG Optimus G Pro
I am really excited about the Pureview tech but I'm also holding offf until either the price comes down or I get sick of Android.
BTW if anybody wants to know what is TOO big in a phone, try the Galaxy Mega. I picked one of those up and tried to use it for a day. While I enjoyed sitting on the coach with it, putting it in a pocket was just ridiculous. It literally hurt to sit down with it in there if you know what I mean?
I think 5.5 inches is the magic number for me to still keep it "portable". I realize there are those that never put their phone in their pocket anyway, so different strokes for different folks. For me either I have 1 device that still fits in my pants pocket, or as much as I hate to admit it, maybe 2 devices is the answer; a great smaller phone and a tablet. In that case, a 41 megapixel Nokia tablet sounds pretty good
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I don't have the 1020, but I went from the Note 2 to the 920 and I missed the bigger screen. Now I'm back to a giant in the LG Optimus G Pro
I am really excited about the Pureview tech but I'm also holding offf until either the price comes down or I get sick of Android.
BTW if anybody wants to know what is TOO big in a phone, try the Galaxy Mega. I picked one of those up and tried to use it for a day. While I enjoyed sitting on the coach with it, putting it in a pocket was just ridiculous. It literally hurt to sit down with it in there if you know what I mean?
I think 5.5 inches is the magic number for me to still keep it "portable". I realize there are those that never put their phone in their pocket anyway, so different strokes for different folks. For me either I have 1 device that still fits in my pants pocket, or as much as I hate to admit it, maybe 2 devices is the answer; a great smaller phone and a tablet. In that case, a 41 megapixel Nokia tablet sounds pretty good
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I went from note 2 to the 1020. Im not really suffering because of screen size. But i am hurting from the O.S. Its the little things that i miss, easy toggles, swype, a decent dialer, ad block, can' t connect to my school wifi, custom message ring tones, smart alarm, note 2 battery life, and a working barcode scanner for fitness-pal app. Oh and i'm damned tired of my phone telling me what i can and can't use data for. I've hit quite a few restrictions on the phone just because i wasn't connected to wifi. Kinda silly.. yeah throw me a warning by all means but don't just take the choice out of my hands.
So that rant aside, the camera on this phone is stellar. Nothing like it on any other phone. It's really hard to tell just how much a camera can make on impact on you without trying it out for yourself. Its Night and Day compared to other smartphone cameras. And the UI + social + cloud integration is just perfect. Metro is ridiculously sexy and smooth. haven't run into one hiccup yet. Not going to go into further detail here but the camera and physical/software quality is almost enough to keep me from jumping to the next big thing these holidays.
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I had Note 2 and it was too big for a phone. I then moved to iPhone 5 and sport a Lumia 920. 920 has perfect screen size. iPhone's 4" display is not bad too, even though it is not even HD.
Oh yes, opinions are subjective. I can say Lumia 920 is still the best phone considering the price, performance and camera, but many will disagree.
I am using a Lumia 920, very good phone, I will get the 1020 as soon as it comes out in Singapore. 8.7 and 41 mega pixel are very far apart... I will still keep my 920.
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