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Whatz up with 4.3'' screen

All the new smartphones, especially with android, is coming out with 4.3'' screen. Why so big?? 4'' is pretty big, but if the phone is slim enough, you can sleep it in your jeans. But for 4.3'' it's way too big.
I don't understand why companies like HTC and motorola is trying to make huge ass phones. If anything they should trying to get Super AMOLED or retina display (and gyroscope). And the thing is people are buying it!!! Where do they put their phone??

Bikram said:
All the new smartphones, especially with android, is coming out with 4.3'' screen. Why so big?? 4'' is pretty big, but if the phone is slim enough, you can sleep it in your jeans. But for 4.3'' it's way too big.
I don't understand why companies like HTC and motorola is trying to make huge ass phones. If anything they should trying to get Super AMOLED or retina display (and gyroscope). And the thing is people are buying it!!! Where do they put their phone??
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ummmm... idk what type of pants you wear (probably super-SKINNY Jeans) but for most people, a 4.3 in screen is very easy to slip into ones pants. Once again, I don't know how small your hands are, but a 4.3 in screen really isn't that big... I would say 4.7 in is more like it, why would you possibly want a multimedia device with a tiny 4 in screen?? You can barely watch a movie on it. Maybe you should just stick to an iphone

i have a hd2 but i dont have any problem with the size, i even have a capdase case around it that makes it larger but i still dont notice its there. and i have a job that involves a lot of walking (waiter)

My Galaxy S, with its 4" screen, is actually pretty much the same dimensions as an HD2 with a 4.3" screen - there's just not much else on the front of the device. That said, I wouldn't want to go much above 4.3", or it would become uncomfortable even to hold in one hand, let alone put in your pocket.
It might be best not to ask unrelated questions in random threads, Sonic10101010, as people won't find them. If the card is microSDHC, is the reader compatible with microSDHC cards? That sounds like the most likely problem to me.

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I know this is really 100% totally irrelevant, but its super important to me. Does anybody know how to get a micro-SD to work? I put it in the adapter and the adapter into a universal memory bank but Windows 7 can't seem to read it. All I need is to put files on it. Plz help me if u can.
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Just plug it in with your phone's USB cable and choose file transfer mode!
On topic now,it's more a thing of personal preference.For people like you who aren't the type who will get a huge screen phone there are phones with smaller screens like the Legend and the Hero,or even smaller like the x10 mini.Compared to 4,3'' the Desire's 3,7'' also looks small,but it's big enough.I have a Desire myself and using it after I had a Hero(which has 3,2") I thought it's screen was huge,which I kinda like because I watch a lot of movies on my phone,but then I found myself in an electronics store and put it next to a Leo.It did seem too tiny...

Why the hell not? I'd personally like a 5" screen. If you want a tiny screen stick to a low end basic phone. Loving all the new high end 4.3 stuff.
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i also think a 4.3 inch just way too big for a phone...
it wouldnt even fit nicely in my palm...
my current phone has a 3.8inch screen and i find it just acceptable.

i have a hero and with me being a truck driver i use it the same as siriusxm but using pandora and with unlim. data, well you figure it out but the screen is just right for me

Eh I put my phone in my bag and car. Never really felt that a phone can be too big as long as I can hold it in my hand.

My HD2 fits in my pocket perfectly, way better then my older smaller thick phones. The new 4.3inch LCDs are so thin they fit into your pocket perfectly. Plus once you use a real 4.3 inch cap. LCD you will never want anythign else. Also I'm 6'4 and 240 pounds with very big hands. If your a big hands guy your loving these new 4.3 inch LCD's. Were all build different to with very different sized hands and pockets so its gonna be everyones own preference.

[Poll] What's the best WP7 device? Help me buy

Hey guys,
I'm going to buy my WP7 phone (which is Windows Phone 7 Phone, kinda like ATM Machine I guess) this week and it's a tricky decision. It reminds me of the start of the original pokemon games if any of you remember that - three choices, all with their own strengths and weaknesses.
I've done my reading and a fair bit of research but I'm still not leaning in any particular direction as of yet. Just interested in a few opinions from people that have been living with these phones for a while.
So, here are my options (I'm in Australia and buying unlocked):
Samsung Omnia 7 - People have good things to say about the load times on this phone, and of course the screen. I'm not totally sold on the industrial design and I currently have an AMOLED screen on my HTC Legend which sucks in sunlight, oversaturates colors and generally pisses me off.
HTC Mozart - I've used the camera on this phone and really like it, but the back's a little ugly with that stupid triangle design. In case this phone has some kind of trump card I'm missing, it's at the bottom of the list
HTC 7 Trophy - I like the look of this phone but I keep reading reviews saying it's midrange. I'm coming from a midrange device and I don't wanna be left behind - I don't see how anything with a 1ghz processor and a screen like this is midrange, but whatever.
HTC HD7 - bit of a wild card option. Never had a phone with a screen this big but could be kinda cool, although all the reviews say the viewing angles are a bit crap
Anyway, I'm sure any of these phones would be great, but I'm just curious to see the opinions of the people that own them.
Cheers

I know it sounds oversimplified but the hardware is generally good (aside from the one with the stupid speaker built in) so likely I'd reccomend the biggest screen because with netflix big screen and kickstand=win

The bigger screen on the HTC is definitely not better and will be a step down from your AMOLED device. Try the SAMOLED Samsung which should have better colours than the AMOLED screen you have now. 4" is still large enough to impress.

efjay said:
The bigger screen on the HTC is definitely not better and will be a step down from your AMOLED device. Try the SAMOLED Samsung which should have better colours than the AMOLED screen you have now. 4" is still large enough to impress.
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cant say I was a fan of the bluish tint to the white lettering on the amoled screens

I say go Omnia7. The only form of tinting I notice is when a totally white screen slightly goes darker or 'grey', I think its for battery purposes.

Has to be the Omnia7 or HD7. I dwindled my choices down to those two:
Omnia7:
+ AMOLED
- 8Gb
+ NAND
HD7:
+ 16Gb
-/+ SD Card (whatever way you look at that. Slow, but BIG and expandable)
- Washed screen colours (compared to Omnia)
That's the basic jist! Everything else is almost the same. So do you want storage or screen?

save your money and buy a trophy. i know, its not a common opinion, but besides the smaller screen it is capable of all that the other devices can do. only downside for me is if your are looking at the screen at an wider angle it sort of bleeches out, colors do lighten up. but why would you do that? during normal usage there is no problem at all with the screen.
besides the screen i do not see anything "midrange" here.
i like my trophy, no need to upgrade.

nehvada said:
save your money and buy a trophy. i know, its not a common opinion, but besides the smaller screen it is capable of all that the other devices can do. only downside for me is if your are looking at the screen at an wider angle it sort of bleeches out, colors do lighten up. but why would you do that? during normal usage there is no problem at all with the screen.
besides the screen i do not see anything "midrange" here.
i like my trophy, no need to upgrade.
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Trophy is also 8Gb with, as you say, smaller screen. It does everything all other WP7 devices do alright, but it offers no advantages to buy it over the HD7.
HD7 is also cheaper (sim-free)
edit: Quick Google. Well, it's £380 on O2 over here, while the trophy is £350 unlocked. Not much difference

Not topic, but why not LG Optimus 7 - not available?
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tarakini said:
Not topic, but why not LG Optimus 7 - not available?
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That is what I get.....

the LG has hardware keys which i found too loose, no good build quality here. i would allways prefer hardware keys over touchpanel, but this one didnt make a good impression.
the HD7 with 8GB here in germany is an average of 70,- € more expensive than the trophy, the 16GB version a few bucks more. i call that a noticable difference.

the only thing that made me not choose the LG was I used one in a shop and didn't much care for the screen. it was still a great phone, but it didnt seem as bright as samsung and htc

Depends mainly which carrier you use as to which phone you ultimately get, but the HD7, in my opinion, is the creme of the crop. It isn't saddled with the low-quality AMOLED and it has the largest, superior quality, LCD of them all. The physical appearance is the most pronounced with black-chrome accents and elegant styling abounding. The silver mesh inserts at the top and bottom aren't just for show, either. They actually funnel sound from the rear speaker. The high-quality kickstand is a must for this super-sized LCD, for watching movies with too.

zukа said:
Samsung Omnia 7 - People have good things to say about the load times on this phone, and of course the screen. I'm not totally sold on the industrial design and I currently have an AMOLED screen on my HTC Legend which sucks in sunlight, oversaturates colors and generally pisses me off.
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when i got my hands on this device (in a local shop) it felt really different compared to what i expected from screenshots and videos (in a negative way).
if a device is as big as this one it !HAS! to feel smaller than it is (like HD2/HD7 for example, it shouldn't "feel" that bulky).
This was a really nice phone in my opinion until first realtime-contact.
cheap plastic materials and it feels more like a prototype device than like a retail phone (sorry @ samsung).
another thing that got my attention after i had a look at the device was the screen.
as you may know, amoled screens are good when it comes down to display pictures/videos and color gradients (lockscreen wallpaper etc.).
but as soon as you take a look at the plain color tiles on homescreen, you can see quite a difference between LCD/SLCD and AMOLED.
The pixels on a amoled are not as "dense" as on lcd/slcd (means boarders of sub-pixels take more space).
it felt like a interlaced picture when i was watching the tiles (i had the hd2 and the mozart on me to compare side-by-side (believe me, both are superior).
simply said: major downside for metro ui (amoled) and it felt much cheaper than i expected.
zukа said:
HTC Mozart - I've used the camera on this phone and really like it, but the back's a little ugly with that stupid triangle design. In case this phone has some kind of trump card I'm missing, it's at the bottom of the list
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i got myself a mozart (for free with contract) and don't regret it at all. best wp7 device for me. alu-unibody rocks!
zukа said:
HTC 7 Trophy - I like the look of this phone but I keep reading reviews saying it's midrange. I'm coming from a midrange device and I don't wanna be left behind - I don't see how anything with a 1ghz processor and a screen like this is midrange, but whatever.
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i also had a chance to take a look at this device. to make it short:
this is one of the cheapest phones i ever saw from htc (not bad compared to LG but not the kind of quality htc is delivering usually).
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HTC HD7 - bit of a wild card option. Never had a phone with a screen this big but could be kinda cool, although all the reviews say the viewing angles are a bit crap
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if you really want a 4.3" phone, my advice would be: get yourself a hd2..
i don't see any benefit in using such a big screen for wp7 (well not for now; for wm6.5.X i do of course). if you really want/need wp7, my advice is: take the mozart.
my opinion:
if you want a beast of a mobile-computer with phone-capabilities and much more (Android, HTC Sense, custom roms etc): HD2
if you want a phone with some media/social capabilities but no "personal-computer-feeling", get yourself a WP7 device (i hope you can get my point).

Check this.
HD7 vs O7

HD2Owner said:
if a device is as big as this one it !HAS! to feel smaller than it is (like HD2/HD7 for example, it shouldn't "feel" that bulky).
This was a really nice phone in my opinion until first realtime-contact.
cheap plastic materials and it feels more like a prototype device than like a retail phone (sorry @ samsung).
another thing that got my attention after i had a look at the device was the screen.
as you may know, amoled screens are good when it comes down to display pictures/videos and color gradients (lockscreen wallpaper etc.).
but as soon as you take a look at the plain color tiles on homescreen, you can see quite a difference between LCD/SLCD and AMOLED.
The pixels on a amoled are not as "dense" as on lcd/slcd (means boarders of sub-pixels take more space).
it felt like a interlaced picture when i was watching the tiles (i had the hd2 and the mozart on me to compare side-by-side (believe me, both are superior).
simply said: major downside for metro ui (amoled) and it felt much cheaper than i expected.
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Just to clear things up, the Omnia 7 actually has a metal body, glass front, and some plastic parts for the top and bottom of the device.
I can compare my Omnia 7 (4in screen) with my older Touch HD (3.8in), which also has the same screen tech as the HD2/HD7 (since they don't use SLCD) and considering the Touch HD has a higher pixel density than the Omnia7/HD2/HD7, I really can't see how you can say the HD2 was superior considering its the same resolution at a bigger screen size. The Touch HD was JUST noticebly sharper than my Omnia 7, but nothing major, I fail to see how HD2 can look sharper than my Touch HD, making you say its easily superior to the Omnia 7's screen.
I would believe you if you JUST said Mozart regarding its sharpness, considering it has a smaller screen at 3.7in, same resolution and has SLCD, but the HD2.... really?
btw considering the Omnia 7 has a bigger screen than my Touch HD, i actually find it feels smaller in the hands due to the curved back, than my Touch HD. The Omnia 7 took a while to getting used to cus its curved back mixed with a metal body equals a very slippery combination ><

All the slamming on SAMOLED is unwarranted. Especially in the case of the Metro UI on WP7. SAMOLED really makes the UI stand out. This is mostly because there is so much use of black backgrounds and borders. The highly vivid color saturation is also very noticeable. I imagine if you were to hold the screen an inch from your face and squint, you might be able to notice some minor difference in pixels.
We don't get the HD7 on AT&T, but the Surround has the same display. The Surround display does not hold a candle to SAMOLED in most ways. Yes, it should have sharper text of SAMOLED, but nothing that is bothersome or really even noticeable, unless you are searching for it.
For the record, I am an HTC fan over Samsung 99% of the time. But in the case of WP7, SAMOLED wins.

HD2Owner said:
when i got my hands on this device (in a local shop) it felt really different compared to what i expected from screenshots and videos (in a negative way).
if a device is as big as this one it !HAS! to feel smaller than it is (like HD2/HD7 for example, it shouldn't "feel" that bulky).
This was a really nice phone in my opinion until first realtime-contact.
cheap plastic materials and it feels more like a prototype device than like a retail phone (sorry @ samsung).
another thing that got my attention after i had a look at the device was the screen.
as you may know, amoled screens are good when it comes down to display pictures/videos and color gradients (lockscreen wallpaper etc.).
but as soon as you take a look at the plain color tiles on homescreen, you can see quite a difference between LCD/SLCD and AMOLED.
The pixels on a amoled are not as "dense" as on lcd/slcd (means boarders of sub-pixels take more space).
it felt like a interlaced picture when i was watching the tiles (i had the hd2 and the mozart on me to compare side-by-side (believe me, both are superior).
simply said: major downside for metro ui (amoled) and it felt much cheaper than i expected.
i got myself a mozart (for free with contract) and don't regret it at all. best wp7 device for me. alu-unibody rocks!
i also had a chance to take a look at this device. to make it short:
this is one of the cheapest phones i ever saw from htc (not bad compared to LG but not the kind of quality htc is delivering usually).
if you really want a 4.3" phone, my advice would be: get yourself a hd2.. far more possibilities when it comes down to media playback (especially video)
i don't see any benefit in using such a big screen for wp7 (well not for now; for wm6.5.X i do of course). if you really want/need wp7, my advice is: take the mozart.
my opinion:
if you want a beast of a mobile-computer with phone-capabilities and much more (Android, HTC Sense, custom roms etc): HD2
if you want a phone with some media/social capabilities but no "personal-computer-feeling", get yourself a WP7 device (i hope you can get my point).
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and what videos can you play on your hd2, that I can't play on my wp7???
And I have netflix....
For the OP, there is no right phone. I picked the hd7 because I loved the hd2 and didn't want to get a smaller screen. This whole viewing angle thing is overblown. I can show someone a video on my phone and watch it from the side just fine. Videos can't be beat on a 4.3 in screen for a cell phone.

I had a chance to play with everything bar the HD7 today, gonna post my thoughts in case anybody else is in a state of indecision like I am
Mozart: This is a really, really great phone. top notch build quality, absolutely stunning display (IMO, better color reproduction than SAMOLED, but I'm not trying to belittle it) and I quite liked the camera too. Again, still unsure about the goofy triangle pattern on the back
Omnia 7: I can see why so many people are in love with this handset, but two things made me not want it. First, the metal back was purple. Didn't realise that from any of the photos but I'm not keen on owning a purple phone. Second, the SAMOLED screen went dim grey every time white came up on a webpage etc. I'm sure it's for good power saving reasons, but that would get annoying over time for me
HTC Trophy: this was weird. the touchscreen on the trial version in the vodafone shop was completely screwy compared to the HTC Mozart. i don't know if they had a faulty handset or if the trophy has a much less sensitive screen, perhaps it was the oil on my fingers or something (sometimes my HTC legend struggles with that).

Good thread.
What's the key difference between the Samsung Focus & the Omnia 7?
To date, I've played with the Mozart & the LG slider. My current mobile has a slide out keyboard, but I found the on screen keyboard on the Mozart worked so well that it pretty much renders a slide out keyboard superfluous.
I really like the Windows Phone 7 UI. Yeah, I know all the geeks are bemoaning it’s lack of features, but what it has works really well.

Apples new IPhone 6 will have a 4 inch display! It's common sense!

Watch "Apple - iPhone 5 - TV Ad - Thumb" on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY4c2mh15Yk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Classic video! It truly is common sense people!

stu5797 said:
Watch "Apple - iPhone 5 - TV Ad - Thumb" on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY4c2mh15Yk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Classic video! It truly is common sense people!
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I'm not sure if this post is made in satire or not. I'm gonna go with satire, since EVERYTHING rumored about the next iPhones say they'll have a 4.7" and 5.5" screen. What that video fails to address is the fact that most people have two hands. And that even on my Galaxy Light (with a 4" screen, same as the iPhone 5), I prefer to use it two-handed rather than one-handed.
Steve Jobs is dead. He had his vision, and right or wrong, there's no denying his influence. But public opinion doesn't seem to agree with his vision, and that's why Androids with bigass screens are popular, and iPhones are getting Android sized. Small phones are great. Big phones are great. Let the customer decide, not some dead over-romanticized douchebag.

I don't think bigger is better,but 4.0 inch is too small for me.
And what is the sales point of upcoming iPhone?
Health care? Deeper integration to the OS X(Yosemite)? lol.

packyy said:
I don't think bigger is better,but 4.0 inch is too small for me.
And what is the sales point of upcoming iPhone?
Health care? Deeper integration to the OS X(Yosemite)? lol.
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How can you say that. According to the ad it's common sense

I'm ok with the new Apple iPhone 6 to come out but my opinion is yes bigger is nice maybe even better but is it really what you want holding up to your face if you are not a headphone or blue tooth kind of person ? Also isn't bigger why we have Tablets / Epads for ? I think the new size of the iPhone 6 is as big as anyone should want to hold to their head but like OP (Planterz) says let the people choose what they want.
Just my 2 cents..

ios/iPhone ewwww. so ugly :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I have a Nexus 5 right now and it honestly feels small. My next device will have to be 6". I always wanted to give the iPhone a go someday, but man if they keep making dem tiny phones with crappy battery life that day will never come I suppose.

I think it will still be 4-inch, I still use an iPod Touch 4 with a 3.5 inch screen as my main portable device. A larger screen would make it even more expensive and harder to support by developers since they'll need to support many screen sizes.

Daniel120201 said:
I think it will still be 4-inch, I still use an iPod Touch 4 with a 3.5 inch screen as my main portable device. A larger screen would make it even more expensive and harder to support by developers since they'll need to support many screen sizes.
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yeah, apple said it's common sense. there is no way they can go against their own word.

I didn't see the video but it doesn't make sense to make the display bigger.

with the rumors goin around and the fact that they have increased their screen size before.....i think they will do it again.....

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with the rumors goin around and the fact that they have increased their screen size before.....i think they will do it again.....
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There's LOTS of evidence to show that 4.7" is a definite reality, but NONE to show that the (imaginary) 5.5" will come to pass.
Let me re-iterate that for those who are not so good at piecing together a general likelihood of something being a reality, due to there being NO LEAKS of ANYTHING 5.5", no part image no nothing...
There IS NOT going to be a 5.5" iPhone 6, not this year at least. Come back here and quote me when the 6 is released, and your hindsight will give you the 50/50 vision you will need to see how blindingly obvious that was, had you snapped out of your idealistic daydreams, and woken up to how to do a little (basic) detective work and generally use some common sense.

My old s3 already feels too tiny. And that's 4.8"....
I am never going below 5.7" again. I love the screen on the S5 but it's too bloody tiny. Reminds me of the old gameboys you needed a magnifying lens to use properly...
orbitA13 said:
but is it really what you want holding up to your face if you are not a headphone or blue tooth kind of person ?
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I'm perfectly comfortable holding 5.7" to my ear whilst calling, cheers. (and I'm a woman, so there goes the 'hands too small' argument.)
(5.7" and a bit, the otterbox commuter isnt the tiniest of cases)
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Poll: do you think the size of iPhone 6 screen too large?

I found that it is hard to use iPhone 6 with one hand. Especially when typing, I can't reach the left side to tap on a character easily when I use iPhone 6 with my right hand.
Do you think iPhone 6 is too large for one hand operating?

It's quite a large one. You are right. I think for small hands it is quite difficult and not very useful. But I never do one hand operating.

Yes it's a little too big

The screen isn't too large, but the phone certainly is. iBezels.

I as a woman with small hands can use my Note 3 with one hand, so watching blokes complain about not being able to do so is hilarious.
There's nothing wrong with a 5.5+" screen size. Those humongous iBezels, on the other hand....
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Frankly I don't understand the in-betweener size 'phones' at all, it's too small to be a tablet too big to be a phone, why?
A phone is supposed to be easily held in your had, it should be able to fit in your pocket

I think the screen is a tad too big, but one hand works fine with reachability. i like big screen for movies

It's really not too bad, I think. I don't have experience with the iphone, but with the Note 2. I was hesitant to get it at first, almost bought the S3 over it. I'm glad I got the Note 2 over it in the end. I have no issues fitting it in any of my pockets (mostly wear regular jeans). Any bigger than 5.5 inches would probably be too big though.

Maybe it is too much bigger. Still dissapointing that the next big thing from apple is just like that,

What do you think of the A9?

I think it's got a cute camera, but all around it just... sucks. The battery is even worse than my Nexus 5, and the phone is just ugly, especially in the front, in my opinion.

Actually I like the design much better than the M9, not too worried about the battery, and it seems HTC has finally overcome it's greatest flaw in its camera.

Wish it has a dual SIM function (it's important in SE Asia and developing countries) and waterproof.
Otherwise, it's pretty nice.

I just can't believe they are still plastering a fugly logo on the front taking up valuable screen real-estate. I'll never buy another HTC as long as they keep doing that. At the very least they got rid of the "hardware" buttons... except then they replaced it with a larger hardware button copying samsung and apple. The waste of space is just terrible. Nexus 6 has slightly more than half an inch in top/bottom bezeling combined while these things look like they are rocking 1.5 inches or more!
Not to mention it's looks like a sad copy attempt at newer samsung/iphone styles - hardly unique at all. I don't think the copy-cat ploy is going to work for the third guy doing it. I'd bet money that this is yet another flop.
http://www.xda-developers.com/the-a9-is-not-the-hero-htc-needs-nor-the-one-it-deserves/

Xenosis said:
I just can't believe they are still plastering a fugly logo on the front taking up valuable screen real-estate. I'll never buy another HTC as long as they keep doing that. At the very least they got rid of the "hardware" buttons... except then they replaced it with a larger hardware button copying samsung and apple. The waste of space is just terrible. Nexus 6 has slightly more than half an inch in top/bottom bezeling combined while these things look like they are rocking 1.5 inches or more!
Not to mention it's looks like a sad copy attempt at newer samsung/iphone styles - hardly unique at all. I don't think the copy-cat ploy is going to work for the third guy doing it. I'd bet money that this is yet another flop.
http://www.xda-developers.com/the-a9-is-not-the-hero-htc-needs-nor-the-one-it-deserves/
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I don't think the design is necessarily a bad thing. It may be emulating Apple, but it's still metal and it will appeal to quite a number of people, if not for the design then for the build quality alone. With that being said, the battery is most likely gonna drag the phone down, unless they can do what the Moto G is doing with their battery, which by the way is larger than the A9.
Also, I hope there are capacitative back and recent apps buttons to complement the physical home button. Otherwise, the home button kinda becomes redundant, even with a fingerprint scanner, because you have the full set of controls on the screen right above the home button.

Using HTC 8 years now but couldn't find new model for me. Like the design but inside phone is not what you expecting from phones these days.
Just to hang for time that HTC makes serious phone I switched to OnePlus 2.

HTC A9
Very bad design, I think they need to change thier concept designer and CEO then they try to find another inspiration like One M7 & 8 and I think they will not be able to do that until they think out of Apple hater Box

bennaye said:
I don't think the design is necessarily a bad thing. It may be emulating Apple, but it's still metal and it will appeal to quite a number of people, if not for the design then for the build quality alone. With that being said, the battery is most likely gonna drag the phone down, unless they can do what the Moto G is doing with their battery, which by the way is larger than the A9.
Also, I hope there are capacitive back and recent apps buttons to complement the physical home button. Otherwise, the home button kinda becomes redundant, even with a fingerprint scanner, because you have the full set of controls on the screen right above the home button.
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Bad? nah. Sad? I think so. Who needs more of the same thing? It's because they are failing that they decided to copy what they thought would be a safe bet. Personally I'm not even too bothered by the small battery as I pretty much always keep my phones around 50% and up as wherever I am there is usually a place to charge them. Fast charging will make that even more feasible. (Probably their logic)
In my opinion, the fingerprint scanner should be on the back of every phone, like many are already doing, not the front. Or even on the side makes more sense. It should be in a place that is easy to access with only one hand. The bottom of the front of the phone makes it so you have to support it with the other hand while swiping to do it comfortably.
My point is that any capacitive/hardware buttons that can be done in software are redundant and they are especially atrocious when taking up screen real estate. When done in software, the screen can be 1/3 inch to 1/2 inch larger.
When I got my One m7 way back, I thought it was awesome and compared to what was out there, it was. That is until other phones came out that were the same size but had smaller bezels, didn't waste space with a giant logo and capacitive buttons. A clear successor in design IMO.
Maybe it's just me but since everyone can do nice specs, a decision on a phone comes down to smaller things and for me, screen size/quality is one of the most important. The way the front of the phone looks is important, and how well utilized the space is is important. HTC has always done a horrible job utilizing space well so far as I've seen.

I hate it. The design is fine but why? Don't copy Apple just to get a few new users to switch. Stick with the M8 style design with some differences. Bezeless? The specs are not that great. They even removed boomsound wtf. (unless it is considered a mid range phone).
They need to spend some money and get ultra specs. They need a 4k screen, ultra boomsound speakers that are really loud with a pop out speaker like the old HTC Surround while keeping it a thin phone, Snapdragon 820 with 2 gh and 3-4 gigs of ram, a 25 ultra pixel rear camera with Nikon DLSR sensors to bring the ultimate in picture taking and making it the best camera phone ever even better than some stand alones, 6 ultra pixel front facing cam, 3500 MaH battery. Now if they did that, I'd buy that in a heart beat or are these features too unrealistic?
HTC needs to realize people care about what is written on the specs sheet next to the phone in a phone store. People see low numbers (even though the processor may optimize it to make the low numbers feel like higer for example battery MaH) they will go to another phone that has higher numbers on the specs sheet.

I just really hope they change their mind about their design philosophy to me its not a good change, but I applaud the hardware and the fact they have marshmellow running on it already

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I hate it. The design is fine but why? Don't copy Apple just to get a few new users to switch. Stick with the M8 style design with some differences. Bezeless? The specs are not that great. They even removed boomsound wtf. (unless it is considered a mid range phone).
They need to spend some money and get ultra specs. They need a 4k screen, ultra boomsound speakers that are really loud with a pop out speaker like the old HTC Surround while keeping it a thin phone, Snapdragon 820 with 2 gh and 3-4 gigs of ram, a 25 ultra pixel rear camera with Nikon DLSR sensors to bring the ultimate in picture taking and making it the best camera phone ever even better than some stand alones, 6 ultra pixel front facing cam, 3500 MaH battery. Now if they did that, I'd buy that in a heart beat or are these features too unrealistic?
HTC needs to realize people care about what is written on the specs sheet next to the phone in a phone store. People see low numbers (even though the processor may optimize it to make the low numbers feel like higer for example battery MaH) they will go to another phone that has higher numbers on the specs sheet.
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I don't agree with you on this, HTC hasn't copied from Apple. But it is other way round.

This is the design that HTC has pioneered and continued to evolve. There is a reason why iPhones and Samsung devices now look like they do, because HTC has a superior design. They always seem to fall short when it comes to specs and marketing.

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My point is that any capacitive/hardware buttons that can be done in software are redundant and they are especially atrocious when taking up screen real estate. When done in software, the screen can be 1/3 inch to 1/2 inch larger.
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My point was that since HTC already went with a physical home button at the front which doubles as a fingerprint scanner, they might as well include the other capacitive buttons. Having just one button on the front seems kinda pointless. But I do agree that the fingerprint sensor should be on the side or on the back.

MsEvyLynch said:
I hate it. The design is fine but why? Don't copy Apple just to get a few new users to switch. Stick with the M8 style design with some differences. Bezeless? The specs are not that great. They even removed boomsound wtf. (unless it is considered a mid range phone).
They need to spend some money and get ultra specs. They need a 4k screen, ultra boomsound speakers that are really loud with a pop out speaker like the old HTC Surround while keeping it a thin phone, Snapdragon 820 with 2 gh and 3-4 gigs of ram, a 25 ultra pixel rear camera with Nikon DLSR sensors to bring the ultimate in picture taking and making it the best camera phone ever even better than some stand alones, 6 ultra pixel front facing cam, 3500 MaH battery. Now if they did that, I'd buy that in a heart beat or are these features too unrealistic?
HTC needs to realize people care about what is written on the specs sheet next to the phone in a phone store. People see low numbers (even though the processor may optimize it to make the low numbers feel like higer for example battery MaH) they will go to another phone that has higher numbers on the specs sheet.
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Dude, first of all, anything that has to do with Nikon sucks. Second of all, complaining like that just makes you look bad.

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Dude, first of all, anything that has to do with Nikon sucks. Second of all, complaining like that just makes you look bad.
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I'm not complaining, I'm just stating what HTC needs to do to get back where they need to be. Going this route is just making it worse for them.

Honestly I think it is a dumb a** phone and it seems like HTC is in self destruct mode

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I'm not complaining, I'm just stating what HTC needs to do to get back where they need to be. Going this route is just making it worse for them.
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Yeah you have a point.

I've used HTC phones basically for almost every upgrade I had. I found their build and quality to always be top notch. What I liked about HTC is that you can almost always unlock the bootloader and go the custom rom route and the boomsound speakers. The One A9 ditched everything to try to get more people to like HTC. What I want is a HTC phone with top notch specs 5.1-5.5" screen, I could care less about finger print scanning but sure whynot, a nice shooter with OIS and a competitive price point and I think they should be able to get back. Sense skin on the HTC is what makes the experience unique.

nice especially the design though I'm not impressed with its built and other stuff. sticking with the N5 ndysf

Best thing about HTC these days is still Sense interface. Stock android, Samsung etc...OS/look/feel is garbage. I remember when I first got the Nexus, the one with the led trackball..years ago. I almost dumped that thing in 1 day until I found the ability to get an updated Rom with better apps/design and look/feel of the phone. HTC was a saving grace. Get rid of Blinkfeed, keep the clean/polished apps of Sense and interface...and put some real serious hardware in the phone.
Only good thing about this is going to be marshmellow/developers and the ability to have all carriers supported and unlocking out of the box in the US. Otherwise, from the forums, you can see how support of the M9 and later variants have decreased over the years.
Don't know. Maybe sell the M9 and try the A9...I don't do much with my phone, and the little I do, I really need a better polished interface that Apple/MS have done well for years versus the Android.
Shoot, been playing with Candy 5 on my M9 which is pretty close to Marshmellow and standard Android, what a piece of garbage interface/apps they still produce Google....pretty pathetic considering.
Unfortunately, I'm on Verizon for the next year...likely jump ship in 14 months and go back to something like ATT/Cricket and universal/GSM phones. Good thing my wife/kids have iPhones that will work on any network already. Just need to dump my VZW M9 and move on with my life...gheez. The mobile/cell phone business is really a joke with many manufacturers, such a cluster these days and so many options, most Android.